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[_] Anonymous06/28/12(Thu)04:48No.1708790 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Repost-chan06/28/12(Thu)04:52No.1708791 Zeitfaggotry in disguise.
>> [_] Anonymous06/28/12(Thu)05:02No.1708794 >># Kill members of the zeitgeist movement.
>> [_] Anonymous06/28/12(Thu)12:43No.1708961 >TEDx Lel.

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[_] Anonymous06/21/12(Thu)06:24No.1703484 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous06/21/12(Thu)06:36No.1703486 Welcome to America...
>> [_] Anonymous06/21/12(Thu)06:40No.1703488 Sauce on this? I wanna see it all...
>> [_] Anonymous06/21/12(Thu)06:53No.1703491 >># http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qKAse838 8k
>> [_] Anonymous06/21/12(Thu)11:19No.1703627 bump because this is awesome.

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>> [_] Anon 1673083 Booooooooooring.
>> [_] Anon 1673184 My video cuts off about somewhere just before he introduces the opposite of "obsolescence." My argument back is: what of it? All economies up to this point have included the traits (in red text) in some form or another; the real difference is how honestly they approach those issues and the nature of possession and transaction as understood by the system. You can't just wring them out of existence as if human nature is a completely rational system that always falls towards the closest source of gravity; most of the aforementioned exist simply because human nature is far too irregular and individual, even when made as regular and collective as possible, to tolerate that they don't have some personal measure of control over something, no matter how irrational it is. It's why we get angry and why we feel happy.

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>> [_] Anon 1669736 It's a *FAKE* TED talk. If this guy had any credibility, it would be a real TED talk and not fake. Even moot has a real TED talk to his credit.
>> [_] Anon 1669751 >># a talk is a talk. you are a faggot. there is nothing wrong with what he is saying.
>> [_] Anon 1669762 >># I've seen *Real* TED talks where the speaker is full of nonsense. http://www.empathicscience.org/pinker.ht ml
>> [_] Anon 1669814 >># Just because he is talking, and the person you respond to is a homosexual, does not mean the man in a video, who we have already establish is willing to deceive you to appear more influential, is saying something 'not wrong'. It just means the rest of us are not stupid enough to believe him.
>> [_] Anon 1669857 >># fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag fag
>> [_] Anon 1669861 >># Yep, your point?
>> [_] Anon 1669883 loldidntwatch.avi
>> [_] Anon 1669894 >implying market economy is not most efficient economy

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>> [_] Anon 1654605 stop posting socialist bull shit people
>> [_] Anon 1654635 Ooh! TED talks are usually insightful and in- >Zeitspam tinfoil hat bullshit >:|
>> [_] Anon 1654772 Stop posting this shit

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>> [_] Anon 1649542 Nobody wants to see this shit. Christ, hoods are more welcome than this garbage.
>> [_] Anon 1649546 This some poverty of mind up in har.
>> [_] Anon 1649553 >># this flash is blasphemy. The one who made this flash should be stoned to death.

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>> [_] Q !rDGuVmz79Q 1639561 Ok, wrong post There is no such thing as a truly durable good, everything has a life expectancy, even man His world is a world with old computers, rotting cloths and, and rusting cars; all on time shares no less
>> [_] Anon 1639573 The goal is admirable, but I highly doubt he can get what he wants and still have a self-regulating rationing system like a market economy does. Unfortunately, it cut off before he could presumably develop his idea further so I don't know if he did. But the market economy works as well as it does because everything is decentralized. If you start centralizing your economy, like I'm thinking he'll want to do, you start running into huge technical issues (philosophy aside).
>> [_] Anon 1639574 >># cont. I'm also amused by his distaste for infinite growth, although I'd say perpetual growth per worker is more correct. It isn't that we should consume more and more every year, but that we should use our resources more and more efficiently...making more from the same amount of input (or making the same amount with less). And it isn't that we should necessarily even produce more perpetually, but rather increase everyone's standard of living perpetually through increasing efficiency of production. If I was on an island, I don't think a market economy would mean we'd consume everything and die, as the price of the things we truly need would be high and so it would be rationed accordingly. We'd only run into a problem through political mismanagement or through incorrectly perceived benefits/costs, which would be a problem in any system with fallible beings.
>> [_] Anon 1639628 It's nice of you to shoot his argument to pieces, but do you have a better system? And even if his system is flawed, it's getting the idea out there that the current system is doomed to fail. I'm sure he knows full well that some of his ideas are flawed, he isn't some jackass that fell off the turnip truck. It's the effort and the exposure he puts forth that creates the air of change he wants. He wants to educate people more than anything else. This isn't about him or his perfect society, it's about our flawed society and what we can do to change it, little by little. Also, lol I live in Ojai.
>> [_] Anon 1639631 tl;dr
>> [_] Anon 1639635 TLDR?
>> [_] Anon 1639636 tldr. Not samefagging.
>> [_] Anon 1639639 Yo asshatts that actually watched this, there are 3 tldrs in this thread post a summary
>> [_] Anon 1639640 >># >It's nice of you to shoot his argument to pieces, but do you have a better system? That sentence bugs me. Why does someone need to have a better system in mind before they're allowed to comment on why someones idea for a system is bad? Why are you not allowed to point out flaws in an argument if you don't have a better idea?
>> [_] Anon 1639653 About his whole locking child in basement seems legit analogy there: Not middle ages. It was an experiment done by the Egyptians to see what the older civilization was. They left some kid on a farm for forever and the kid started saying "Baa" because he was surrounded by sheep. Now, apparently "Baa" means something in Sumerian so they assumed Sumeria was the older civilization. Boy were they wrong.
>> [_] Anon 1639708 >zeitgeist shit How does it feel to know I'd rather watch a loop of a guy scooping up bees with his bare hands than your psycho babble BULLSHIT?
>> [_] Anon 1639726 >># You speak the truth. Let me explain my plans for a wasp based economy that the Jews don't want you to hear about.
>> [_] Anon 1639735 Not a real TED talk