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pearl2.swf
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[WCZEN6P]http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/2008814
ARCHIVEDDiscovered: 19/6 -2013 23:25:37 Ended: 20/6 -2013 00:15:14Flashes: 1 Posts: 6
File: pearl2[1].swf-(255 KB, 640x480, Game)
[_] kill the 36kb swine Anon 2008814
>> [_] Anon 2008835 we haev to flood them out
>> [_] Anon 2008837 THIS FLASH YOU UPLOADED HAS A VIRUS
>> [_] Anon 2008888 game sux
>> [_] Anon 2008919 I show no virus, but game does suck
>> [_] Anon 2008988 really funny OP pearls before swine?? double entendre much?


[ANCEK2Q]! http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/1774300
ARCHIVEDDiscovered: 29/9 -2012 09:52:05 Ended: 30/9 -2012 00:04:23Flashes: 1 Posts: 10
File: pearl2[1].swf-(255 KB, Game)
[_] Help please! Anon 1774300 Can anybody help me figure this out? I can't get it Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1774312 It's pretty tricky
>> [_] Anon 1774324 Finally got it. Then it crashed. But the trick was to have two open at once. have him go first in one, an then you keep making the moves he makes in the other game. :D CHEAT
>> [_] Anon 1774400 Fucking game is dildos!
>> [_] Anon 1774401 Run two copies of the game against each other.
>> [_] Anon 1774539 its easy just use brain
>> [_] Anon 1774573 >># >># This. Works every time.
>> [_] Anon 1774584 >># Although it won't work in the first game since the AI doesn't give you a choice between him having the first move or you. You can find all three games here : - http://www.transience.com.au/pearl.html - http://www.transience.com.au/pearl2.html - http://www.transience.com.au/pearl3.html
>> [_] Anon 1774585 >># And the third game also trolls you if you try to run two games at once by randomizing the pearls.
>> [_] Anon 1774602 THIS GAME SUCKS!


[KQ9U305]! http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/1741573
ARCHIVEDDiscovered: 11/8 -2012 20:30:42 Ended: 12/8 -2012 01:53:22Flashes: 1 Posts: 16
File: pearl2[1].swf-(255 KB, Game)
[_] Anon 1741573 Impossible!
>> [_] Anon 1741588 talks too sloowwwwlllyyyyy
>> [_] Anon 1741592 PROTIP: You can't win, not unless the AI is scripted to lose at some point.
>> [_] Anon 1741596 you can win
>> [_] Anon 1741597 >># >># Take 4 from 6-row. CPU will take the 5th. Take 3 from 3-row. CPU will take one from 4-row. Take 3 from 5-row. CPU will take another from 4-row. Take the last from 6-row. CPU wa mou shindeiru. If you can't win from there, kill yourself.
>> [_] Anon 1741598 1. Go first 2. Remove entire row of 4, hit Go 3. After each of his moves, use Windows Calculator in Programmer mode to XOR the totals of all three remaining rows together, then figure out how many pearls you have to remove from a stack to reduce the XOR total to zero, remove those pearls unless that would leave all remaining stacks with one pearl in them 4. If this would, only take enough pearls to leave an odd number of single-pearl stacks (if it's 3-1-1, take 2 from the 3 stack, if it's 3-1, take the whole 3 stack) 5. Take the single pearl stacks remaining until there's one pearl left. You win, and can now stop playing.
>> [_] Anon 1741600 GUYS, GUYS, you're overthinking it. If you're just going to follow an algorithm to beat him, just open up two instances of it and have him play against himself.
>> [_] Anon 1741604 >># FUCKING BRILLIANT
>> [_] Anon 1741609 This is a classical mathematical game of Nim that has been solved for any heap sizes using nim-sum algorithm. In this particular flash, if AI is using said algorithm you can only win if you let him start first.
>> [_] Anon 1741611 If I recall, someone posted a guide to winning in this that involved treating each row as a binary number. Can't remember it all, and I can't be bothered to go lurking through swfchan to find it.
>> [_] Anon 1741613 >># Nope, the initial XOR of all the rows is 4. 6 ^ 5 ^ 4 ^ 3 = 4 To win, you have to go first, and take enough pearls off one row to change the XOR to zero, which means removing 4 pearls from row 4, 5, or 6.
>> [_] Anon 1741615 If the initial XOR of all the rows is zero, you can only win by letting him go first. If it was 7-6-5-4, then you would have to let him go first to win. Basically, when the rows XOR to zero, they can only be XORed to a nonzero number, while if the XOR is nonzero, there is always a way to make them XOR to zero. This way you can maintain control of the game, always forcing your opponent to disturb the balance and let you keep re-establishing it, until the endgame, where you simply make sure that all the rows have only 1 pearl in them, and there are an odd number of rows when you finish your turn.
>> [_] Anon 1741616 >># i just noticed yeah.
>> [_] Anon 1741626 Oh yeah, and the end game starts when there is only one row left with more than one pearl in it. If there are an odd number of rows with a single pearl in them, take the whole row, while if there are an even number of single-pearl rows (or NO other rows), take all but one pearl.
>> [_] Anon 1741641 Can't beat this motherfucker, does he have rage face? I get the situation, when he was going to make turn, but then removed hand, is it win?
>> [_] Anon 1741727 Translate the number of pearls in each row into a binary number: 3 = 011 4 = 100 5 = 101 6 = 110 Add up each column, so column 1 is 0 + 1 + 1 + 1 which is 3. Get each column to equal either 0 or an even number by the end of your turn. So, let's take 4 from the 4th row of pearls, we now get 3 = 011 4 = 100 5 = 101 2 = 010 Now all columns equal 2. Rinse, repeat, win.


[AC8QBYR]! http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/1717625
ARCHIVEDDiscovered: 12/7 -2012 02:51:34 Ended: 13/7 -2012 03:14:30Flashes: 1 Posts: 24
File: pearl2[1].swf-(255 KB, Game)
[_] You rage you loseAnonymous07/11/12(Wed)19:46No.1717625 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)21:02No.1717659 Beat him second try. You suck OP.
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)21:12No.1717665 does it matter who goes first?
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)21:29No.1717667 easy, after you learn the trick it is impossible to lose.
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)21:48No.1717676 I love how people all claim they beat "easy" and then offer no proof. I will be the honest one. This has challenged me a bit, and I haven't quite figured it out yet, but I am having fun thinking through the puzzle. Aside from the lack of a restart and mute buttons, this is pretty good. It would be much better without the voice acting, but its still a decent little puzzle game (that is, for people like me who don't play puzzle games very often, Im sure that for puzzle people this is pretty common)
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)21:50No.1717678 >># Yeah, I haven't quite figured it out but it is certainly entertaining. It would be really nice to have a restart button though
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)22:10No.1717695 >># I beat him. I let him start and he took all but one of the last row. I took all of the first row. He took one of the second row and then I took three of the third row. He took one off the second row and I took the last pearl on the last row. He was left with two rows with two pearls each so no matter what he does you can leave him with one pearl.
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)22:18No.1717699 stolen from CortexMoteur Wanna beat 'Pearls Before Swine' 1,2&3 ::: take the Nimm sum the trick is binary, so translate the numbers of pearls into binary and add'm up: 1=1, 2=10, 3=11, 4=100, 5=101, 6=110, 7=111, 8=1000, etc so if you get e.g. 7, 9, 13, 22 0 0 1 1 1 (7) 0 1 0 0 1 (9) 0 1 1 0 1 (13) 1 0 1 1 0 (22) --------- 1 2 3 2 3 (this is the Nimm sum) in order to be in a winning position the sum must consist of even numbers so in this example the solution would be to take 19 from the lowest row (22) and leave 3 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 --------- 0 2 2 2 4 and just repeat it, and make sure you stay in a winning position, 'cause if you make one mistake, he has you.
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)22:29No.1717708 it should be you lose you rage for this one
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)23:12No.1717732 >># What?
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)23:14No.1717734 >># But the last row has 6 not 22, what the shit are you talking about?
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)23:32No.1717742 >># That doesn't work, I did the little square thing and every time after my turn it was in evens, he also left them in evens and I still lost, that's crap and a worthless solution and you should go die you cum gargling faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)23:42No.1717749 >># Disregard that I suck cocks
>> [_] Anonymous07/11/12(Wed)23:46No.1717751 wtf he can skip a turn i cant
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)00:09No.1717762 been trying to beat this fucker since 2004
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)00:15No.1717767 Nimm sum man... That's all it is.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)00:37No.1717781 Even easier way to play: 1. Open the file twice 2. Have him play against himself. 3. You win!
>> [_] sage07/12/12(Thu)00:54No.1717789 >># Nim sum with misère rules, that is.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)01:00No.1717793 just beat him! >># listen to this anon.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)03:09No.1717882 Just have another computer AI of the MARIENBAD game play against it. You let this annoying flash go first and then you input that into the other marienbad game. The game is fixed because there is a mathematically complete solution, see above.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)03:17No.1717886 >># or vice versa = 100% win rate, but this flash is so fucking annoying. Beating him should have some pay off, something violent.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)04:26No.1717918 >># The satisfaction I got from doing that and winning and seeing him loose, INFUCKINGCREDIBLE.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)04:31No.1717920 >># a god amongst men. reminds me of that robot factory in chrono trigger...make the two robuts face each other and they explode.
>> [_] Anonymous07/12/12(Thu)04:41No.1717926 >># You've never used computer chess to cheat I take it


[ND5UPSB]! http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/1526882
ARCHIVEDDiscovered: 22/6 -2011 13:24:01 Ended: 22/6 -2011 23:17:55Flashes: 1 Posts: 17
File[pearl2[1].swf] - (261 KB)
[_] [G] Only agony for you! Anon 1526882
>> [_] Anon 1526884 HOLY FUCK I KEEP LOSING THIS GAME IS IMPOSSIBLE
>> [_] Anon 1526886 well I feel stupid
>> [_] Anon 1526887 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EHHHEHEHEEHEHEEEHEEE UAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAH that laugh will forever be a reminder of how stupid I am.
>> [_] Anon 1526889 >row 1&2 gone >row 3 has 1 left >rows 4 and 5 have 2 left >he pops row 3 >only 4 and 5 left, 2 each FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU >wipe out row 5 >wipe out all but 1 on every other row >?????? >someone it's your turn with 3 seperate rows, each with 1 left FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>> [_] Anon 1526890 no matter what he always wins. this game is fucking rigged.
>> [_] Anon 1526892 my mind is full of fuck
>> [_] Anon 1526893 WHEW! it is not impossible... just hard as fuck
>> [_] Anon 1526895 I won, shit was easy. All he does is ARGH like a pirate then walk away. He always puts you into a certain scenario, like 2 rows or 2, or 3 rows of 1. --if you can put HIM into one of those scenarios, you win. The game is really quite simple, you just have to use a little basic math.
>> [_] Anon 1526906 >># What this guy said + watch his moves when he goes first, then copy them when you go first. In particular, focus on when he starts by removing all but one from the last row.
>> [_] Anon 1526936 Nim barely qualifies as a game.
>> [_] Anon 1526944 1) Open two tabs with the game 2) Have him go first in one, copy his moves after that 3) Win
>> [_] Anon 1526955 what a fucker
>> [_] Anon 1526974 >># i do believe it takes more than Just the basic mathmetics to beat this game.
>> [_] Anon 1526977 Oh god this fucker's mike, what did he do, use a pair of fucking headphones?
>> [_] Anon 1526989 right click and play, he will make a move and not take any marbles, even if you win he still laughs like an idiot
>> [_] Anon 1527001 Goddamn, this is easy as hell. The original game was more hilarious, he would actually freak out if you left him holding the last marble. Here he just snarls, acts like it's no big deal, and walks off. (And it kind of isn't, since you can't lose if you make him take the first move and play properly.)



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