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>> [_] Anon 3371202 this game is broken i went bankrupt with a full tank
>> [_] Anon 3371233 what a retarded game even if you manage to not automate anything you still lose
>> [_] Anon 3371240 Something's broken, there were barely any signs anything was wrong and I still got the insurrection.
>> [_] Anon 3371260 Everytime the uneployed mice hit the roof they damage it. What you want to do is grab them once they start attacking and put them in jail, drag them to the other side of the security guard.
>> [_] Anon 3371269 say what you will about it, this game is simply brilliant at conveying its message (Marxism 101) >># that's kinda the point.
>> [_] Anon 3371274 Used an almost 50/50 mix of automated and human units, filled my jail with criminal scum, and retired at around 150 units sold.
>> [_] Anon 3371300 I like how these fags try to hide their company logo now because every time it shows up they know everybody's gonna immediately click off.

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[_] Anon 3317436
>> [_] Anon 3317451 I don't get it.
>> [_] Anon 3317455 >># In postmodern times, providing better products and services and reducing the total hours people need to work for the products and services they consume is somehow a BAD thing.
>> [_] Anon 3317461 >># I meant I didn't get the gameplay. But I actually won without automation so I don't know if there is or isn't a negative political message about this game.
>> [_] Anon 3317508 >># It's basically a very naive promotion of communism. One that falls flat if you go paragon route, not investing in automation at all, trying to keep all your employees happy and paid, and only trying to avoid bankruptcy so that the entire company doesn't suffer. It ends one of two ways. Bankruptcy, or the little shits riot and then just go about doing the same fucking thing they were doing, but without pay while singing like a bunch of hippies.
>> [_] Anon 3317518 >># How do you win? What happens?
>> [_] Anon 3317526 You can reach retirement if you get automation rolling ASAP. I recommend rushing out servers and once you get at least 4 you can start building the factory machines. Just throw the little shits that don't actually wanna work in jail. I managed to keep one actual engineer and myself, while everyone else gets shafted for being the little pussies they are.
>> [_] Anon 3317528 >># >How do you win? Get the yellow cylinder to fill up to max. The game states the number of products sold at the end so I guess winning with the least amount the better. You basically retire. Simply don't go bankrupt (tube drops to zero) or get killed by the hiring line mice. >># The game doesn't force you to automate though despite that being "easier". To win without automation you simply have to "fire" the mice that are either being "lazy" and demanding more cheese(happens when they are happy/not dark) or sabotaging the research or product (determined by sound effects, misshapen cubes, and the mice that do it are unhappy). If a mouse is sabotaging production or attacking the building with a stick you can put them in jail by dragging them to the glass enclosure. In time some imprisoned mice will be happy again and rehired. It seems research prefers to be paid more than labor and that dragging unhappy labor mice to research via promotion can make them happy. Mice that are angry and begging for hire or a pay up should be listened too or they will damage your shit. Lazy mice can get canned without fear because they'll demand to be paid at 1 cheese again. It might definitely have some sort of cheap communist message with the thematic of the game but whoever programmed it definitely didn't force you to fuck over the work force for muh greedy capitalism unless he thinks property destruction and company sabotage are worker's rights.
>> [_] Anon 3317530 >># You can't imprison mice that aren't damaging property or committing sabotage.

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[_] Anon 3293507
>> [_] Anon 3293569 >># Dammit! an insurrection... does someone know how to send rats to prison if they get dark?
>> [_] Anon 3293574 >># Jail workers who aren't paid enough jesus christ this game did exactly what it was trying to do, huh
>> [_] Anon 3293582 >># Drag them to the left of the cop. Its jail. Also you can click (and hold) the clock to speed up time. >># Very very blunt and well designed. >Statement on AI/Automation being a force for good or bad >Statement on capitalism in general >The cats are just mice with masks on >Looks nice and runs well
>> [_] Anon 3293587 I've won going full automation, but can you win without automating at all? I get pretty far, but towards the end, they start making bad products/coding errors and I go bankrupt.
>> [_] Anon 3293588 >># You can win paying them nothing just dragging into research and back down since everytime they join they do a bit of research for free
>> [_] Anon 3293594 Simple, when the game first asks you to set the wages to 1, set the assembly to 1 then drag him to research. He then works for free. Just fire/rehire him a few times when he actually asks for money.
>> [_] Anon 3293596 >># >># Combined both tactics, Completed with retirement 21 units sold. Not a single penny paid to anyone.

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[_] Anon 3285102
>> [_] Anon 3285127 what a bunch of ungrateful dummies
>> [_] Anon 3285135 >># Fucking insurrections. What am I supposed to do if I already have enough employees?
>> [_] Anon 3285143 I got to retirement with only 92 units sold by always paying the workers the lowest amount and firing anyone who wanted more before rehiring them when they wanted jobs. It's a precarious balancing act though because towards the end my jail filled the bottom row.
>> [_] Anon 3285146 >># what is the jail and how do you access it? or are you just talking about the bottom/blue row?
>> [_] Anon 3285148 >># you can drag mice who are acting out to the cat on the job line and it puts them in a jail to cool off. You can only do it with mice that are banging on the cieling, making defective products or setting back research. The last run I did of this I replaced all my research with computers and somehow managed to get it done in 100 units sold. Again, a lot of mice in jail towards the end.
>> [_] Anon 3285151 210 units sold but everyone got laid off and replaced with machines. I feel like an asshole.
>> [_] Anon 3285156 >># Capitalism.
>> [_] The Jew 3285158 36 units sold. I didn't even need that many, but I felt like making all of the automated builders instead of the minimum I needed, so demand fell before I made a new innovation, so every tick I'd sell one unit, but once I finished automation of the factory line and got a new product, the demand in the market exploded and I retired at a young age with a pretty profit. The worthless mice built me one computer and the rest was simple.
>> [_] Anon 3285159 if you fill the jail to the point you can't see anyone to recruit, it prevents insurrection. The are downsides to this, but if you have some automation you can basically just fire everyone and slowly win that way.
>> [_] Anon 3285160 >># Finally 21 before retirement. Fuck trying to be a good boss, automation and sending everyone to jail is the way to go.
>> [_] Anon 3285165 28 units sold. If you drag a mouse to the research team, a little bit of the research bar will be filled even if he is not fed. Remove him from the team, then put him back and a little more will be filled. Keep doing this and you can research without feeding your mice.
>> [_] Anon 3285169 >># Nice tip, Anon. Sadly it wasn't enough to get a retirement at 20 units. It seems that 21 is the absolute minimum.
>> [_] Anon 3285181 Automated blue collar and mouse white collar masterrace
>> [_] Anon 3285207 >># >Finally 21 before retirement. Fuck trying to be a good boss, automation and sending everyone to jail is the way to go. how the fuck did you make it in 21

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>> [_] Anon 3276538 Retired in 27 units
>> [_] Anon 3276541 excellent way to tutorial in this game
>> [_] Anon 3276623 Why, when it gets to whatever point, do the mice randomly stop sending boxes until they're fed? They aren't protesting or anything, they just stop working for whatever reason.
>> [_] Anon 3276624 >># Because they want a higher wage. Click on the food valve.
>> [_] Anon 3276627 >># Fuck them. They should've gone to college. 2 dots for code mice and one dot for factory mice is plenty.
>> [_] Anon 3276638 This gets ridiculously easy once you fill up the jail. You can fill up the jail immediately after building one coding computer and one factory bot with no consequences. Kinda curious if anyone ever beat it without using the automation, 'cause after a while I just end up filling the jail with my employees and poor people while the last coder scripts himself out of a job.
>> [_] Anon 3276641 >># Of course I tried that. They wouldn't work with even 4 pellets. They aren't asking for higher wages, and higher wages don't do anything anyway.
>> [_] Anon 3276642 >># At a certain point one type of box won't give any profit so you have to upgrade to the next box Capitalist markets aren't stationary, friend.
>> [_] Anon 3276644 >># Figured it out. It's actually because if you don't invest time in making new products you just don't produce as much.
>> [_] Anon 3276656 >can afford to hire more mice >can't afford any more damage to the system they bring it on themselves
>> [_] Anon 3276657 anyone got the link to this game?
>> [_] Anon 3276658 >># It's because there's a finite demand which dwindles as the product stays on the market. New products have a refreshed demand which decreases by 1 each day.
>> [_] Anon 3276662 There was this old NSFW flash with a slightly aggressive rock song with lots of gore and violence. It also featured this animation of Brad doing this dance. https://media.giphy.com/media/31gtuGwUQ7 28/giphy.gif The spirit of it was basically violence fuck you Does anyone have it?

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[_] /f/ is always shit Anon 3202320
>> [_] Anon 3202328 Shitty rename, okay game.
>> [_] Anon 3202330 >># what is the original filename? I saved it with this name.
>> [_] Anon 3202331 >># mousetrap.swf is the most common filename
>> [_] Anon 3202332 >># I have mine saved as "to build a better mousetrap"
>> [_] Anon 3202334 ill make a shit ton of products but it won't go through the line wtf
>> [_] Anon 3202340 >># Use the graph. That's the demand for the product.
>> [_] Anon 3202346 >tfw progress is always added to your research when a new mouse is put in there, regardless of whether they're being paid
>> [_] Anon 3202359 theres no way to actually win this is there
>> [_] Anon 3202364 >># Just fill up your cheese cylinder.
>> [_] Anon 3202382 Made it to retirement! >Didn't build a single piece of equipment >One trick is to move unhappy builders up stairs >Also when guard cat looks pissed you can toss one of the mice in jail
>> [_] Anon 3202385 >># alternate between upgrades and automation if a mouse starts sabotaging work or causes trouble jail them immediately everything else should be easy to figure out
>> [_] Anon 3202387 >Most senior employees started in RnD and manufacturing >Promoted manufacturing employee into RnD >Began to automate half of manufacturing because workers were ungrateful about their wage >Promoted another employee into RnD >Employee began to sabotage research progress into a new product to get more money (Dumb fucker) >Fired and jailed him and replaced him with a computer >Eventually automated all of manufacturing as the employees were making shitty products >Only 2 employees left in RnD >The rest automated >Retired with all the cheese Good game
>> [_] Anon 3202388 >># How many products?
>> [_] Anon 3202389 >># I think 174?
>> [_] Anon 3202391 >># Nice. I finished with 34.
>> [_] Anon 3202401 Time to speedrun this.
>> [_] Anon 3202403 >># MOUSE INSURRECTION NOW
>> [_] Anon 3202404 >Mice on the bottom floor bash on the ceiling until you give them a job. Why don't I have an option to mace these entitled shits off the property?
>> [_] Anon 3202405 >># put them in jail
>> [_] Anon 3202407 lowest score is 171
>> [_] Anon 3202409 >># you can put them in jail but only WHILE they're starting shit. if you''re slow they get to stay
>> [_] Anon 3202428 >># You mean 117? That's how many I sell before hitting retirement each time
>> [_] Anon 3202433 >># I just got 100
>> [_] Anon 3202436 Alright, I got 51, You could probably go under 40 or something.
>> [_] Anon 3202437 >># >># >># Just so you guys know, 30 is the minimum possible score. At the very start, immidiately put the mouse from the worker section into the computer section, and switch the research to the computer. then, as the wage is about to be paid, remove the mice from the building, and put them back, repeat this until you have one computer, then eject everyone from the building. From here, jail all mice, and fill the computers full. Next, max out research on the blocks, then buy the cranes, and you should get 30. If anyone has a better strat, I'd call you a liar. :)
>> [_] Anon 3202451 My asian friend got 23. http://i.imgur.com/CaXS9h5.png
>> [_] Anon 3202453 21 https://i.imgur.com/AKQYgrr.png
>> [_] Anon 3202458 >># How?
>> [_] Anon 3202461 >21 snap I've only got it to 27 so far
>> [_] Anon 3202463 22 I believe you lose cheese even the mouse doesn't get it. http://i.imgur.com/XneVJ6e.png
>> [_] Anon 3202469 Alright, I got 21 as well, I assume I could have gotten 20 if I had done it slightly differently. http://i.imgur.com/H5T7LRE.png
>> [_] Anon 3202470 >># https://youtu.be/SLMSMoCGrLo

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>> [_] Anon 3083103 Can you switch between the products that you're making? Is that what the bar graph suggests? Demand?
>> [_] Anon 3083106 >># Pretty much, yes. The trick to winning it is automating production as quickly as you can, researching a new product only when you need to, then automating research.
>> [_] Anon 3083108 >># But where do you put all the extra mice?
>> [_] Anon 3083117 I got the insurrection ending, what ending did you get?
>> [_] Anon 3083119 >># insurrection isn't an ending, its a loss screen. it means your workers revolted against you.
>> [_] Anon 3083121 I put everyone causing a fuss into a holding cell then kept minimal automation and wages high. It's a game about making capitalism look like shit so you can't expect much from it.
>> [_] Anon 3083126 >># But losing is an ending. Having them build a bunch of machines and singing kumbaya at the bottom line didn't seem like a loss to me.
>> [_] Anon 3083142 wow, my workers suck. they just started making shit wrong why cant i punish them for that? if i fire them, they just clog up the queue, which i cant empty, and then theyll revolt if i could click that bouncer cat and shoo all the waiting mice away, this game would be so fucking great i believe in you /f/
>> [_] Anon 3083159 >># Brotip, when they start smashing on the ceiling, drag them to the left of the cat.
>> [_] Anon 3083160 >># drag them to the bouncer while they're being assholes to jail them. they'll calm down eventually.
>> [_] Anon 3083203 >># That's kind of the question of the day, no?
>> [_] Anon 3083254 Fucking Marxist propaganda get this shit outta here commies. The real world ain't a rose tinted utopia.
>> [_] Anon 3083262 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite_fa llacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_la bour_fallacy
>> [_] Anon 3083287 >># that's not the point of the game its more of a question with automation and economy. The commie ending is a bit of a joke.
>> [_] Anon 3083318 For those who suck at this game ill help you out. I reached retirement by this method. When the game starts make a ton of computers, when a mouse enters the bottom screen put em to the top, once a computer is made replace a mouse with a computer and send that mouse to red zone. Once you have all computers repeat with the crane by Sending the rats to the bottom. If they bang of the ceiling, put em in jail by dragging em to the left of the bouncer. Once you have all computers and cranes, just wait for a mouse to bang on the ceiling and drag his ass in jail. If done correctly u should have all computers and cranes with all the mice in jail, then u just upgrade your product until u win. (P.S If the bottom line is full u can still drag mice to that area.
>> [_] Anon 3083319 >># Nothing, they served their use.
>> [_] Anon 3083394 >># Just drag 'em off the screen. Retirement with 103 units sold. Damn my trap sucked.

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[_] Anon 2872847
>> [_] Anon 2872873 What? so I will always lose?
>> [_] Anon 2872896 >># The game is a lesson in capitalism. To win, you have to eventually replace all your labor workers with automaton machines and R&D workers with computation machines to put out the new products without sacrificing higher pay wages. If you keep having to raise your wages for your mice workers, your retirement funds (the yellow tank) will never reach max capacity.
>> [_] Anon 2872920 >># I like it T. middle class white marxist
>> [_] Anon 2872924 >># WHOA IT'S JUST SO DEEP
>> [_] Anon 2872929 >># *homer laugh* Capitalism... when will they learn?
>> [_] Anon 2872934 Wait, I don't get it. Why are the mice wearing cat masks? Is this a Maus reference? Are they pretending to be capitalists?
>> [_] Anon 2872942 So Retirement.... I win?
>> [_] Anon 2872946 >># No its communist propaganda because the end is that everyone locks up the cat CEO and rejoices at the workers owning the means to production.
>> [_] Anon 2872962 Just a FYI, you can fast forward by holding space.
>> [_] Anon 2872966 >People keep showing up at my door for no reason >Keep expecting me to just let them in so they can complain that I'm not paying them enough for things that I have machines for >no more room for them >They start hitting the ceiling >I and the rest of my employees die in the resulting collapse >Everyone says I was an asshole for not giving them cheese, and starts singing happy songs now that I'm dead >It's a good thing
>> [_] Anon 2872981 >># It's not even the machines. I had everyone working for 4 cheese each and had an all mouse employ, and was still making money from the product being so advanced since all my research went into that instead of an automated workforce. Even then everyone still got pissy and broke the ceiling. Ironically they still replaced themselves with fucking machines.
>> [_] Anon 2872982 >># Exactly! This game has potential. Any more like it? But less bjorked?
>> [_] Anon 2872983 >># Any tycoon game that isn't bullshit meant to be some "Super Deep" propaganda crap. try this one http://armorgames.com/play/7348/corporat ion-inc
>> [_] Anon 2872984 >># you can beat the game without using machines though, they just make it easier

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[_] Anon 2865419
>> [_] Buller 2865434 >># How dafuq do i win this???
>> [_] Anon 2865436 >># Become the corporate man.
>> [_] Buller 2865439 >># im not even sure what the flux are referring too, but seriously there arrives so many workers before i even have time to give them all a job, is this shit bugged?
>> [_] Anon 2865441 >># Jail them
>> [_] Anon 2865444 >># Don't feed your employees. Research machines to replace the workers. Fire the bad workers, jail them when they fight back.
>> [_] Buller 2865447 >># is just feels like everytime i jail them they go all kumbayah on my ass
>> [_] Anon 2865472 The strategy I use to win is to fill all slots but one with machines and just constantly hire and fire workers so they don't revolt, retire by 100
>> [_] Anon 2865476 >># Nah it's not made clear at all by the game, but you're just firing them. If you pick one up when they start revolting, you will be able to put them to the left side of the glass wall and stop their bolshevik bullshit from spreading. That's the jail.
>> [_] Anon 2865483 Fill up the computer row as quickly as you can, both with hires and developing servers. You'll want to put one or two mice on the assembly line, because orders keep going up even with the first product. Once the computer row is full, start working on assembly bots. And once that's done, start replacing the computer workers then the assembly workers. When one of the mice stops working or demands more, toss them in jail or just outside and hire a new one. You'll want all the mice in jail at some point, just so they can't wreck stuff by hitting the ceiling. I've managed to get it in 114, where lower seems better. (It means finishing earlier.)
>> [_] Anon 2865488 >guaranteed_replies_from_morons_who_can' t_into_econometrics.swf
>> [_] Anon 2865489 Love this game, but is there a way to pause it?
>> [_] Anon 2865492 >># 170
>> [_] Anon 2865494 Best I've done is 88 units.
>> [_] Anon 2865498 >># Just did 81
>> [_] Anon 2865500 >># Lowest units sold possible: Fire the worker immediately. Research a computer, once you have one fuck the other guy off too. Fill the top row with computers then research product to the highest level (six dots). Then fill an assembly line with robots. Do not hire anyone, jail them all. If there aren't many orders, research a new product. You wont get any more dots from them but it will give new orders. There is no time limit. You retire once you fill the bar. 34 units sold.
>> [_] Anon 2865510 >># nice strat 21 here
>> [_] Anon 2865511 >># On that note it's a lot harder to get a high number as you have to balance between wages and sales to not fill or empty the bar. http://i.imgur.com/oBWiyIa.png 490 is about as high as I got, eventually got too rich.
>> [_] Anon 2865527 >># 21 here, too i think it might be the lowest possible
>> [_] Anon 2865538 I get nothing but insurrection all the time.
>> [_] Anon 2865545 >># Click on the product being researched to change it and drag a worker to jail at the left of the fat when they start banging on the ceiling.

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[_] Anon 2800506 Have fun. Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 2800517 >># i have no fecking clue what i just played
>> [_] Anon 2800524 God, I hate when these simple games get posted... SO addicting... >># it's a balance game, gotta balance production and consumption; use research to drive automation and save on cheese. C'mon, get on teh Cat's level, Mouse -.-
>> [_] Anon 2800527 >># whenever i try to save on cheese, there's a workers revolt and communism happens. If I don't try to save on cheese, I go bankrupt. Ayn Rand, please save us!
>> [_] Anon 2800530 >># jail everyone but one mouse after you get production going and fully automated (except for 1 position) swap the working mouse and your 1 unjailed mouse every feeding period occasionally dip into the jailed stash for a new dude once they've calmed down
>> [_] Anon 2800531 Anyone seriously believes a mouse can make it in a cat's world? This is a fixed game, I tell you
>> [_] Anon 2800543 Entitles little shits
>> [_] Anon 2800552 >># Easy retirement, managing mice sucks, they always want more.
>> [_] Anon 2800555 >># The game of real life
>> [_] Anon 2800560 I don't understand, after I get pretty much all my automation done the mice in the jail just dance. Did I win? What does this mean?
>> [_] Anon 2800571 the darker the mouses color the more angry they are. Put them into the jail if you'd like. One way to go about this is to have complete automation on the cheese and all the mice working on research. start with the first 3 mice on 1 unit of cheese per pay period. once past 4 mice bump it up to two units. keep full automation on cheese and the once fully automated go straight for increasing cheese amount.
>> [_] Anon 2800577 I like how this is actually about structural unemployment.
>> [_] Anon 2800585 So I just automated the whole thing, mice in jail. Retired and then it just restarts?
>> [_] Anon 2800587 >># Yeah, you won!
>> [_] Anon 2800590 >># They dance if enough mice bang on the ceiling to destroy your factory.
>> [_] Anon 2800592 >># Yeah, it actually conveys the message really well.
>> [_] Anon 2800622 >># >keep my whole management/R&D employed at 4 cheese wages >automate all the pleb workers. >sink all money into product development. I'm a generous capitalist.
>> [_] Anon 2800634 >># Now you're getting the hang of it. Welcome to Murrica.
>> [_] Anon 2800641 RETIREMENT SOLD: 125 Units not bad
>> [_] Anon 2800647 133
>> [_] Anon 2800652 88 is the lowest score i could get
>> [_] Anon 2800658 >># Now that's an interesting way to make a challenge. Do as badly as possible without losing.
>> [_] Anon 2800664 >># it's not doing badly, it's about doing it most efficiently. The game ends when you have x amount of cheese, so its a test to see how little you can spend to make the most cheese. Ethically, though, my tactics are definitely not good. >employ people just long enough to build a machine to replace them >immediately throw them out
>> [_] Anon 2800675 How do I keep the blue mice from hitting the ceiling with a stick
>> [_] Anon 2800677 >># What does ceiling stick even do?
>> [_] Anon 2800678 >># You pick them up and drag them to the left side of the screen which is the jail.
>> [_] Anon 2800679 >># give them a job
>> [_] Anon 2800682 >># I think this is the lowest score possible. I got 21. >open factory >immediately fire pleb worker >keep nerdy faggot around just long enough for him to design a computer to replace himself, then fire him. >yo dawg we heard you like supercomputers so we made a supercomputer that makes more supercomputers >amass army of computers while fending of working class riff-raff >design 6-cheese boxes >install a few pleb-bots to construct my masterpieces and sell them at exorbitant prices. I am the master capitalist.
>> [_] Anon 2800684 There's no reason to not just jail all the mice. Ahaha.
>> [_] Anon 2800686 >># Nice try socialist
>> [_] Anon 2800690 >buy factory >don't hire anyone >just stand around in my empty warehouse with my big vat of cheese and smoke cigars >plebs to factory and start demanding cheese >start trying to break in >they throw me in jail and take my empty factory OH FUCK SAVE ME FREE MARKET >># thatsthejoke.jpg
>> [_] Anon 2800710 >># 141
>> [_] Anon 2800711 >># Yeah that's the best strategy
>> [_] Anon 2800726 161
>> [_] Anon 2800730 >># Thank you mane
>> [_] Anon 2800737 166 not bad i think, kept 4 workers on the production line http://i.imgur.com/ZiusS2V.png
>> [_] Anon 2800747 WOOO 199
>> [_] Anon 2800749 isn't a lower number better since you retired faster?
>> [_] Anon 2800750 >># How do I make a sweatshop?

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>> [_] Anon 2668328 Why these rats believe that they are entitled to a job in my factory?
>> [_] Anon 2668341 I got Insurrection, Bankruptcy and Retirement (at 88 units) Any other game ends?
>> [_] Anon 2668347 What company got destroyed due to insurgency?
>> [_] Anon 2668349 Why can't I tell people to fuck off? All I can do is put them in time out.
>> [_] Anon 2668353 Retirement at 70 units. Get on my level, faggots.
>> [_] Anon 2668354 >># 72
>> [_] Anon 2668356 I get fucking insurrection every time even thought I try not to be jewish, what is with these cunts and how do I avoid that?
>> [_] Anon 2668358 >># 54.
>> [_] Anon 2668360 >># >I JUST now figured out you could switch what you're researching Sorry I was just retarded.
>> [_] Anon 2668366 Sometimes my boxes get stuck in the line, is there any fix for that?
>> [_] Anon 2668368 >># They get stuck cuz the rats when are not happy they deliberately fucked up the product Also Retirement at 23.
>> [_] Anon 2668371 >Mr. Walters, you've been heralded in Fortune as the most disruptive startup in recent history. How did you go from a small yourself-and-two-employees operation to the powerhouse you have today? Throw the employees in prison and automate everything. After the first dozen batches were sold I had enough capital to automate both their jobs. Do you know how awesome it is to rent office space and literally have the entire building to yourself, all day?
>> [_] Anon 2668372 >># I kind of want to do that, you know be rich and all that stuff.
>> [_] Anon 2668373 >># This. Go fuck yourselves you little shits. Where is my gas chamber?
>> [_] Anon 2668374 >># >Implying gas chamber existed
>> [_] Anon 2668377 >># I did this too, I regret nothing
>> [_] Anon 2668378 >># Ha! Buts seriously where is the "Send to over sea's war" option?
>> [_] Anon 2668380 >># Best course of action is to get everyone into R&D and fire them for a moment a little bit before payday, then bring them back until you get your first computer. Then fire everyone and never let anyone back in, jailing anyone who's protesting. The lowest possible is either 20 or 21. Not sure if I had exactly one unit of money from retirement, but I got it with 21 sold while paying exactly one person once by accident. The highest level of product is 6, from then on it just switches colors and refreshes the demand.
>> [_] Anon 2668382 >># Yeah seriously what the fuck is this shit. We're full. We don't have any fucking spots. Stop banging on the fucking ceiling. Seriously I though it was supposed to stop once you filled the top two rows.
>> [_] Anon 2668388 >># They only stop coming once the jail is full. Never release anyone. Summon your inner merchant and lock up the entire opposition forever.
>> [_] Anon 2668409 >># 112. Ah, the wonders of automation.
>> [_] Anon 2668416 >># >># how do you do this in the game?
>> [_] Anon 2668428 All I ever get is insurrection? What am I doing wrong? Can you really send the basement dwellers to jail?
>> [_] のこ 2668431 >># >># when they start banging on the ceiling drag them behind the cat guard. i cant get better than 76
>> [_] Anon 2668433 >># 163 second try
>> [_] Anon 2668434 >># Oh fuck that made this a fuck of a lot faster. Wish the jails existence was clearer.
>> [_] Anon 2668435 >># Once the jail is full the rats will stop coming.
>> [_] Anon 2668452 Retirement at 164 units. Automate production, then slowly automate research.
>> [_] Anon 2668455 >># Machines have no upkeep. Automate research to any degree, fire everyone, imprison everyone, take your leisurely time to fill up research automation entirely, then max out your product quality, then start automating the assembly line.
>> [_] Anon 2668473 >># 26.
>> [_] Anon 2668478 Retirement at 116 units. Ah mayne, feels good.
>> [_] Anon 2668479 not building 1312 units, developing a little box empire and feeding your brother mice while you're at it.
>> [_] Anon 2668490 >># 20, any question? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMSMoCG rLo
>> [_] Anon 2668494 23 what a perfect world http://i.imgur.com/NDJ4gdC.png
>> [_] Anon 2668504 Retired at 21. Don't think i can do much better than that.
>> [_] Anon 2668506 >># They get stuck when there is not enough demand for the product. You can see the demand as the gray bars on the chart in the middle lane.
>> [_] のこ 2668511 >># i got 21 using that method, prolly fucked up somewhere
>> [_] Anon 2668515 what the fuck it feels like im doing everything right, then the boxes just stop and sit there, not giving any profit. Why are they stopping?
>> [_] Anon 2668517 >># At the top of the production line is a graph that fills as you sell product. The grey boxes that fill up with the color of your product represent demand. By having a backup, you're producing too much. Take a page out of apple's playbook and research a new product.
>> [_] Anon 2668527 I like how the rats in jail slowly give up hope and die inside

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>> [_] John Moses Browning 2541658 Interesting
>> [_] Anon 2541687 Retirement acquired
>> [_] Anon 2541712 >># I alwasy get insurection. :S
>> [_] Anon 2541715 >># You need to send those who protest to prison.
>> [_] Anon 2541718 >># Took a few tries, but I finally retired at a whopping 95 units sold.
>> [_] Anon 2541782 >># Is prison the bottom row?

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>> Anon 14458 Is the demand for product dependable by your actions? Or it's just random?
>> Anon 14460 >># The demand for a product always gets lower with time until it's so low that it stops selling. A new product creates new demand.

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[_] Anon 2495536 In before something something communism.
>> [_] Anon 2495638 Something something communisim
>> [_] Anon 2495639 something something >not being the jew controlling it all
>> [_] Anon 2495641 >># how the hell do you win?
>> [_] Anon 2495645 >># is the game even possible to beat without using automatons and computers?
>> [_] Anon 2495648 So either I focus on workforce and go bankrupt, or focus on mechanising and have a revolution? Capitalism, man.
>> [_] Anon 2495655 >># Research hard, automate workforce fast (but not so fast that you dont research and the demand goes below production. Imprison workers that start smacking on roof (drag them into the cat with nightstick). Essentially, exactly what happens now.
>> [_] Anon 2495657 >># These workers are assholes man. I dont hire enough of them and they fucking attack me. And they get pissed about their wages all the damn time. The problem is if you fire them they organize a fucking attack you you. unlike in reality where if you bitch about your wage enough to make the company go bankrupt, your ass gets fired and thats it. I fucking hate mice now.
>> [_] Anon 2495658 >># oh shit thank you!
>> [_] Anon 2495664 >># Ok, found a solution. Only hire new workers. Keep the first R&D mouse on 1 dot, then up him temporarily when he complains before reverting to 1 dot. He won't take this forever, but I was able to get the 3rd product with no dent in my bank and no production at all. When he breaks, swap him out and jail him. Just like that. The new mouse will work just as hard for one dot until he too breaks. Rinse and repeat for all mice until only machines are working. I never went above 3 dots doing this, and that was for 1 pay check. So evil but so effective.
>> [_] Anon 2495688 Retire rich as fuck ok
>> [_] Anon 2495699 >># Here's a better solution: Immediately put the production worker into the unemployment line after you gain full control. Pay the researcher his shitty one dot salary to research a computer. Once the computer is done, put it to work researching other computers. Take the researcher and put him in the unemployment line. Research computers until the row is full. Then proceed to research automated producers until the row is full. Jail every non-automated worker. Sit back and relax as you cruise to retirement on a three-dot investment in a computer and a healthy dose of sociopathy.
>> [_] Anon 2495700 Only thinking about the game, wouldn't a feeding bar for the unemployed row make us able to get to automation? Outside of the game, the parallel would be negative income tax, though of course the game oversimplifies the situation.
>> [_] Anon 2495704 Why do I always end up with boxes piling up and not getting added to the food surplus?
>> [_] Anon 2495708 >># This. Replace all workers with machines and researchers with computers and then give a basic income to everyone so they don't riot.
>> [_] Anon 2495727 >babbys introduction to the contradictions of capital >blames gommunism and stupid workers
>> [_] Anon 2495735 110 units sold until retirement
>> [_] Anon 2495743 >># I managed 81. Trying to work out if Units sold are good or bad? Less units suggest quicker game, but more units suggest you met growth well. Hmm.
>> [_] Anon 2495744 Where does the demand come from when everyone is in jail?
>> [_] Anon 2495747 >># I just got 22, but I think 21 would be possible and possibly the lowest you could score, seeing as 6 is the highest you could research. I think I paid the lowest possible wage of 3, but I can't remember if a unit was accidentally sold at 1 dot or not. Does anyone know how many dots you must accumulate to retire?
>> [_] Anon 2495752 >># by working harder someday, you will get the money.
>> [_] Anon 2495753 >># I can count for you
>> [_] Anon 2495755 >># haha... yea.. works great! didnt think of that solution.. actually.. i wanted to play as long as possible.. so i sent some in to work
>> [_] Anon 2495756 >># because you can only pay a few in a run. you have to make more research in new products.
>> [_] Anon 2495757 >># 20 is the min http://youtu.be/SLMSMoCGrLo enjoy
>> [_] Anon 2495758 >># >unlike in reality where if you bitch about your wage enough to make the company go bankrupt, your ass gets fired and thats it. No, that's pretty much portrayed in the game aswell. If a workers complain too much in the game and stars sabotaging, then you just fire them. (or raise their salary) And of course if they get fired, they'll get violent.
>> [_] Anon 2495761 >># There is a greyed out box for each "year/season" you can only sell that many per each yeah. It is your demand level. It goes down if you dont research new products for a while.
>> [_] Anon 2495762 >># >I act like a dick towards my job, how dare you fire me?!
>> [_] Anon 2495766 >># here Initial money is 80 and your goal is 200. As far as I know, unsold boxes are sold for reduced price, if there are any, when you research new box.
>> [_] Anon 2495788 >># Either you've never had a job, or I want you to work for me.
>> [_] Anon 2495793 >># I think the less you sell before retirement is better because you were able to sell cost effectively meaning productivity was high and time spent was low.

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[_] Anon 2471527 niggers Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 2471549 The game tries to keep itself simple but then hardly explains itself Once you get the 'bad' ending you assume that's all there was to it: The game is about mice rioting and then that's the end. So they really bodged it up. OH NO PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO ANNOY THE MACHINES BY MAKING A LOT OF NOISE, STOP THEM BEFORE THEY DO THE DANCE OF DEATH
>> [_] Anon 2471557 it reminds me of Maus... and not in a good way.
>> [_] Anon 2471563 best ending is to automate everything, put everyone in jail. jobs are obsolete in the 21st century.
>> [_] Anon 2471574 >this is what commies really believe Fucking mice, game should let me buy more cops.
>> [_] Anon 2471590 It's not really imposible to do it with humans and minimal jail. It takes a lot of micro management. Got 80% to the end, but screwed myself over when I hired full staff and had nothing to do with them
>> [_] Anon 2471612 >Throw all the mice in prison >servers and robots >retire early And a wonderful lesson was learned that day
>> [_] Anon 2471631 >># The way to do it is to 1) get product up to 6 and make sure no one interferes with the product line 2) fill up research section with citizens 3) pay them 1 4)give production 4 5) When the game tries to make you fail sack everyone except 1 production and give him 1 salary 6) when he tries to fuck you over go to another guy in the jail and replace him. 6a) since you're at 6 production value you could probably go for more people to get a better score 7)???? 8)PROFIT
>> [_] Anon 2471632 >># notice how much unsold product sits on your assembly line? without jobs, there's no money for demand.
>> [_] Anon 2471635 >># >># I guess I lied about the minimal jail part, but the purpose of a ceo company isn't always to perpetually generate profit, but sometimes to break even despite a minimal demand for product
>> [_] Anon 2471638 >># not in murca its not. you pinko commie.
>> [_] Anon 2471643 >287 units produced what do you mean?
>> [_] Anon 2471674 it said insurrection, but gave me no score. It showed the entire bottom row full of mice dancing, with the three I had in jail no longer in there, there were more robots than I ever had doing the lines, and all the researchers were servers despite me only having 1. What just happened? Did I win? There was happy sounding music for certain.
>> [_] Anon 2471675 >># Your mice put you in jail and automated everything and achieved a communist utopia.
>> [_] Anon 2471677 >># in·sur·rec·tion noun \ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən\ : a usually violent attempt to take control of a government this is pretty much a communist themed game to indoctrinate you on how no one wins with capitalism(despite the evident 120 years of success and 50 years of failure under communism)
>> [_] Anon 2471681 what happens when i achieve a balance? ive been building widgets for the last 45 minutes without end.
>> [_] Anon 2471683 I had all mouse workers, their pay was maximum, yet nothing sold. I hit bankruptcy from having a production line chock full of 6 coin products. Was that the problem? They cost more than my workers made?
>> [_] Anon 2471684 >immediately put both mice to work on making research machines >end up only paying one mouse a single time at minimum wage >research machine is complete So long, fuckers. >research a full arsenal of research machines >upgrade to greatest product >build single assembly robot >retire after only 25 units are made
>> [_] Anon 2471686 >># You still need to keep making fresh products in order for the demand to increase. Though if you pay them all 4 coins, you might still lose money.
>> [_] Anon 2471689 >># what about all the little mice that need that need their daddy mice to feed them?
>> [_] Anon 2471692 >># success for who? not anyone here
>> [_] Anon 2471693 >># nope tried it again. hit "bankruptcy" with a large amount of dosh still in my canister. Game is rigged. You can't win even when the rules say you would.
>> [_] Anon 2471696 >># >Game is rigged Did you just know figure out the secret to most video games?
>> [_] Anon 2471698 >># whatever you want to believe bro. Being poor in a 1st world country beats dieing of Ebola in a dictatorship >># trying to see if you have to go through x product lines before you retire
>> [_] Anon 2471699 >># I tried giving a shit for several games, I really did. But these fuckers make me choose between bankruptcy, unending sabotage, insurrection, or an iron fist. I may have taken it to the extreme, but they started it.
>> [_] Anon 2471704 >># >paying any one. please, just kick the guy out before youhave to pay him. another yutz will come along, wash rinse repeat and soon you have a free computer.
>> [_] Anon 2471705 >># How's that glimpse of why they hate us as much as we hate them?
>> [_] Anon 2471706 >># yeah I tried to avoid paying anyone, but I missed the timing and didn't really care to restart.
>> [_] Anon 2471708 I got retirement with 165 units sold. I became an old man with mad dosh bro. You guys suck 2 workers (1 research,1 blue collar), the rest in jail.
>> [_] Anon 2471716 http://imgur.com/nbSt69d 1183 units sold. all those little meeces that have full bellies due to my insightful guidance has left this old mouse both well off and full of warm fuzzy feelings. Not to mention all the satisfied customers.
>> [_] Anon 2471718 retirement in 42 units i have gotten pretty good at this game
>> [_] Anon 2471734 >># the lowest i could get was 26 can you get lower than that?
>> [_] Anon 2471742 >># correction just got a 24 game
>> [_] Anon 2471744 >># No its because you haven't introduced a new product for people to buy. It decreases regardless of what you do.
>> [_] Anon 2471746 >># that argument falls flat when you realize our countries put those governments in place for our benefit
>> [_] Anon 2471748 >># Just got 21.
>> [_] Anon 2471750 >># The reason for African based poverty is too diverse to be put down to one factor, but to say that we destabilized all of Africa and put in place dictators to serve our benefit is absurd. Of course there are exceptions in the case of Al Qaeda and probably a couple of places rich in oil, but to destabilize everyone in order to outsource labor to third world countries is absurd. It is only the fault of the black people that they can not get out of the shithole they're in from the era of British Imperialism You can pull out old USSR medical statistics, the truth is that even in the great Maoist utopia and Stalin's Soviet dictatorship malnutrition was rampant and many suffered from diseases no one in the West. Eg. East vs West Berlin. Capitalism might not be perfect, but it beats the alternatives and despite all the world turmoil going on, the past half century has been more peaceful than any other.
>> [_] Anon 2471757 >># wow that's good I'm proud of you =D what was your order of moves?
>> [_] Anon 2471782 >># I was able to get a 21 also. It ended up being basically the same as my way to get 25, except I was sure not to upgrade to a new product while there were products already on the assembly line.
>> [_] Anon 2471790 After 5 times of either Bankruptcy or Insurrection I finally jailed all complainers who made defective products and retired with 230 units sold.
>> [_] Anon 2471801 >># > communists doing anything other than killing capitalists and starving themselves with sheer incompetence kek

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[_] Anon 2467457 Can you build the worker's utopia? Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 2467475 >># every job filled at max pay and the extras break the floor, wat do
>> [_] Anon 2467480 >># You can put the extras in "jail" by dragging them to the left of the cat. Also, invest in machinery.
>> [_] Anon 2467481 >># ohh, I was trying to put them somewhere but it didn't seem to work
>> [_] Anon 2467485 >># If you need to replace workers with machines, put them with the extras to erase them forever.
>> [_] Anon 2467521 is retirement the goal?
>> [_] Anon 2467522 also what are games like this, with an upgrade/research system called? like games where you get gold and can buy upgrades (WITHOUT FUCKING MICROTRANSACTIONS!)
>> [_] Staffenburgen Weinerwagen 2467530 >># I believe they are called Tycoons.
>> [_] Anon 2467531 >># There called Jeu de Gestion in French. No idea what an english equivalent would be
>> [_] Anon 2467532 >># Tycoon games
>> [_] Anon 2467534 >># >># >># >># What about ones where you have like, a gem miner or a space ship and you mine gems or blast baddies and sell them/earn gold and use it to upgrade your pickaxe or your ship or your shield or that sort of system?
>> [_] Anon 2467535 >># No Idea sorry all i know is games like roller tycoon or game dev or prison architect count as a tycoons zoo tycoon.
>> [_] Anon 2467536 >># because tycoons are okay, but i want one where i have a character who i can upgrade, kind of like gem miner on android, or upgrade this or whatever it was called (the old flash game with a ship)
>> [_] Anon 2467539 >># >># Ask /v/ but late at night or else your thread will die
>> [_] Anon 2467546 Retired sold 155 units 2 mouse and the rest computers 2 in salary in rnd in production 4 mouse and 3 cvc robots. 4 in salary. The rest goes to jail ;)
>> [_] Anon 2467547 >># You mean like idle games?
>> [_] Anon 2467551 >># Sold some units 7 comps, no mice 8 machines, no mice Jail is full.
>> [_] Anon 2467565 >># Time management games, or just management games.
>> [_] Anon 2467566 >># no, games where i actively kill baddies or mine gems by exploring a mine to get gold and spend it on better equipment etc.
>> [_] Anon 2467612 200 units by retirement.
>> [_] Anon 2467624 Not too hard. Managed to get to retirement
>> [_] Anon 2467640 >># You will always fill the jail.
>> [_] Anon 2467651 108 units then retired, all machinen, all mice in jail
>> [_] Anon 2467659 first try was starting to get good then they all started dancing with the machines in charge
>> [_] Anon 2467673 79 units to retire.
>> [_] Anon 2467684 >># tell me your secret boss
>> [_] Anon 2467714 >># That was fun, all you had to do is put those cunts asking for more than what they deserve in their places.
>> [_] Anon 2467723 220 sold, no computers, no mice in fabrication
>> [_] Anon 2467728 I remember when this came around last time retirement at 54 units all machines except 1 mouse on computer getting paid 3 cheese
>> [_] Anon 2467735 retired in 90 units

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>> [_] Anon 2391549 there are no replies also to win, just jail all the mice but 1, then when the 1 mouse gets mad swap him out with the least mad mouse you currently have. All you get for winning when you fill the orange cylinder is a 'RETIREMENT' message which isn't as fun as when you lose.
>> [_] Anon 2391569 >># He's talking about when it was last posted. (check swfchan)
>> [_] Anon 2391587 how do i kill the new employers, im fucll fuck off
>> [_] Anon 2391602 Fuck you, other mice. I'm not obligated to give you work. Also, I pay you three times minimum wage, stop fucking up my research.
>> [_] Anon 2391603 I had a whole row full of finished products that wouldn't ship out. Why?
>> [_] Anon 2391605 >># you need to improve your products but i can get full auto, and in no need of mice, why they still here, dont come, i dont need you
>> [_] Anon 2391612 >trying to set up a fully automated system >they overthrow me in order to set up a fully automatic system fucking mice
>> [_] Anon 2391613 >># If you look above where the line of boxes are it shows the demand for them, with the most recent demand being the furthest bar on the right. The light part is how much you can still sell, and when you sell a box it fills up slightly. You need to keep researching or the demand will only be one box per period; once you get a new product the demand bar is full and it decreases by one box every period, I believe. If you fully automate everything and fire all the workers you won't have to worry about losing money each period and can just research and sell boxes until you win. By immediately making a computer I was able to automate everything from the beginning and didn't start manufacturing until I made six dots per box, winning at 25 boxes sold
>> [_] Anon 2391617 Wow I guess being an owner of a company is harder than I thought it was.
>> [_] Anon 2391628 >># Just pay someone to do all the work of managing it and reap the rewards.
>> [_] Anon 2391629 I don't understand the purpose of this game.

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>> [_] Anon 2389910 why the box stop going inside?
>> [_] Anon 2389916 >># excess supply I'm guessing
>> [_] Anon 2389919 haven't really figured out how to stop insurrection from happening :/
>> [_] Anon 2389928 >># pretty sure that's the point also fucking jewish mice, throwing fits when they don't get 4 balls
>> [_] BismuthVectoring !FRESHtYylA 2389929 Got to retirement without putting a single mice in jail. Just juggles with firing and hiring employees as soon as they got paid.
>> [_] Anon 2389930 if they start wanting more balls, chuck them down the bottom and replace them. if they start rioting down the bottom drag them behind the security cat to punish them. invest in automation then invest in new products. reach retirement in under 100 sales
>> [_] Anon 2389932 Retirement in 80 thingies. >># You have to research a new product. It's too much supply as >># said. >># You can click the research thing to make automated computers and assemblers to do the work for you. >># Fire them, they'll either want to work for 1 ball soonish, replace them with machines, which are free, or re-hire them.
>> [_] Anon 2389937 The game is cool and all that but the jail is OP. I just won with nothing but computers at 32 units sold.
>> [_] Anon 2390012 >># 122 Build few machines to build boxes, research new boxes as fast as you can.
>> [_] Anon 2390019 >every position is filled by a machine >jail is full WELCOME TO THE FUTURE

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[_] CAPITALISM Anon 2388605 captcha >classes wwwwla Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 2388612 >># Fucking animals.
>> [_] Anon 2388620 >># So I ran out of money somehow, because for whatever reason your mice build stuff and then it doesn't get converted to money. So instead I decided to automate and all the mice rebelled. Can you actually win this?
>> [_] friendly-neighbourhood-rapeman 2388623 >># if your mice want more food and get pissed they delibretly ruin the product, same goes for research
>> [_] Anon 2388625 Fuck you and your Communism, it bankrupts the company and then ends with everyone miserable. > http://i.gyazo.com/f0d7994b4c90c3afbe967 622728b5fed.png
>> [_] Anon 2388628 >># >2010+1+1+1+1+1-1 >not using 4chan X
>> [_] Anon 2388629 >># The thing is that everyone is miserable but there is some faggets that bring the illusion of happiness to the rats but it still an illusion and when the rats realize it they blame the "cat" for all their suffering but the thing is that there was never a cat and neither was the progress...all just was an illusion... a dream. You have lost the game.
>> [_] Anon 2388630 >># Yeah I got that, I'm giving them max food, but it feeds them so infrequently that they still get mad and ruin the research.
>> [_] Anon 2388632 >># Congratulations, you are now Britain in the 1970s.
>> [_] Anon 2388633 >># Yes because everyone is so incredibly happy with capitalism right?
>> [_] friendly-neighbourhood-rapeman 2388634 >># http://s.4cdn.org/image/title/255.png
>> [_] Anon 2388635 >># The game should just have an option to feed them more frequently. As the leader of the company I don't understand why I don't get to choose what I do with my money. If I want to feed my poor as well as the jobless mice at the bottom and I have enough robots producing good to be able to do it I don't see why I can't.
>> [_] Anon 2388636 >># Hoho, let me guess you are that kind of fucker who thing everyone can be "happy"?
>> [_] Anon 2388637 >># no, but I'm also not someone who is blindly indoctrinated to think communism is bad and that capitalism is good.
>> [_] Anon 2388641 >># Pretty sure most companies don't just go "well, we've got ten employees, no point expanding beyond that, let's just sit back and wait for the inevitable communist revolution" either.
>> [_] Anon 2388643 >># >Believing any kind of -ism No wonder why oafs overthrow they hate and impotence towards the ones who dare to do.
>> [_] Anon 2388644 >># bad game is bad.
>> [_] Anon 2388646 >># Communism isn't bad just because it's bad. It's bad because it stifles progress. Countries running under a communist system progress much slower than countries running under a capitalist system, which is why the United States is a business giant while Russia is barely getting by financially.
>> [_] Anon 2388647 >># >No wonder why oafs overthrow they hate and impotence towards the ones who dare to do. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>> [_] Anon 2388649 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l_v1ORm LfQ this. Everybody who gets pissed off at this game is actually mad at the logic of capital.
>> [_] Anon 2388650 >># >progress The idea that creating more technology and wealth is progress is part of the problem.
>> [_] Anon 2388651 >># No what we are mad at is how retarded it is that you can't feed your employees or the poor with your wealth. You just kind of sit on it doing nothing like an idiot.
>> [_] Anon 2388653 >># The problem with COMMUNISM is that we still live in a scarcity-based world. Bottom line is that there does not exist enough stuff for everyone. Period. That is a hard fact you cannot change without murdering a good 25-50% of the global population outright. If we all had molecular printers and could create new resources out of raw materials at will using them, then Communism (or some form of it) could work. Emphasis could. The problem with CAPITALISM is the snowball effect. We're seeing the result of the snowball effect these days especially, where people either hit a 'critical mass' point with their money that means they will never be without that ludicrous amount of money again, or they never hit that point and are subject to the boom-bust cycle of the economy, potentially meeting financial ruin every nth year just because the world said so.
>> [_] Anon 2388654 >># >># I had to reformat my hard drive about an hour ago and haven't gotten around to it yet
>> [_] Anon 2388655 >># Welcome to the world of the 1%.
>> [_] Anon 2388656 >># Yes.
>> [_] Anon 2388658 >># Again you look at it the wrong way. It's not that the US is making technology and wealth; it's that during the whole communism vs. capitalism era, the US just made shit to make life easier and/or more enjoyable. If other people were willing to generate "wealth" to give it to us in trade for these fun things that we were making, then who are we to stop them? We can always make more for ourselves, and what they give us in trade can be traded for other things we want. Other parties could have just made the things they wanted as well instead of buying shit from the one party that did take the time.
>> [_] Anon 2388659 >># Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Communism is a fantastic system for small groups of people dedicated to it, as they CAN have enough for all of them. True it can't work on a mass scale but that doesn't make it badwrongevil the way capitalists seem to think it is. Capitalism on the other hand produces ultra wealthy assholes who horde their wealth instead of putting it to use while others get trampled underfoot barely able to get by each day until they eventually die of exhaustion of starvation. It's not like a system has to be applicable to the entire fucking planet right now to be worth something.
>> [_] Anon 2388661 >># >Other parties could have just made the things they wanted as well instead of buying shit from the one party that did take the time. Right, those other places that the US and other western powers sucked dry during the colonial age, yeah they totally could have just made the things they wanted. Definitely.
>> [_] Anon 2388662 >># Now your economic/political system is fighting against the spoiled generation that gave birth and dealing with the results of "spending what you don't have" also that the US empire is collapsing. US it is already in the transition btw being the whore of babylon to the downfall of the empire.
>> [_] Anon 2388666 >># Maybe not Africa or Mexico, but certainly Russia or China could have. The option was on the table for them, but they both chose the option that drove them into the ground.
>> [_] Anon 2388670 >># Worst get.
>> [_] Anon 2388675 >># The option was never on the table for China. Empress Cixi had anyone who was in favor of industrialization and modernization exiled or executed while the western powers exploited China for all it was worth. Immediately following was WW1 in which China was exploited some more, then WW2 in which Japan jumped in on the exploitation train. Eventually Mao was able to win their civil war, but only by beating Chang who was a brutal fascist. So no, China never really had the option of becoming a productive capitalistic country until very recently
>> [_] Anon 2388679 >># China could have adopted capitalism; they chose to act arrogantly and try to boss the West around, and got fucking wrecked because the world had moved on from gunpowder and rockets. They then half-heartedly and retardedly tried to adopt capitalism without destroying their shitty social structure and risking the people at the top losing out, and continued getting fucking wrecked. Then they adopted communism, and starved 45 million people to death in 4 years.
>> [_] Anon 2388680 Just finish the game, in the end everyone is happy
>> [_] Anon 2388682 >># What part of psychotic dictator murders reformers leaves you still thinking they had a choice? One loony cunt saw what they wanted and murdered them for it because it didn't involve her at the top anymore.
>> [_] Anon 2388684 >># Even if Cixi took the option of capitalism off the table, that doesn't mean it wasn't there. She could have chosen to embrace the idea.
>> [_] Anon 2388686 > heavy research >research computerization >replace researchers one by one >research automation (yellow machinery) >replace workers one by one drag vandal ex-employees to jail, where they belong (left of police cat)
>> [_] Anon 2388692 >># One person does not an entire country making a choice make. Empress Cixi decided to be a selfish cunt, that doesn't mean China chose not to embrace capitalism, it means one dictator chose not to and slaughtered anyone who tried to.
>> [_] Anon 2388693 >># What part of "Empress Cixi comes to power in the fucking 1860s, by which time Britain had already tried twice to bludgeon China into the global world trade network instead of shutting itself off from the rest of civilisation, and supported reforms until the 1890s" are you not clear on? Plenty of opportunity there.
>> [_] Anon 2388694 >># By tried to bludgeon china into the global world trade network I hope you mean tried to turn them into a colony so as to drain them of all their resources.
>> [_] Anon 2388695 >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >3 >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># You guys realize, that when they hit the ceiling when they are on the bottom floor, you can drag them to the left of that same floor to suspend them, making them incapable of causing a riot?
>> [_] Anon 2388697 >># i was going to tell them the same shit but they have their heads crammed to far up their own asses to remember its just a fuckin game by a guy with an opinion. btw the goal is to make it to retirement
>> [_] Anon 2388698 >># >># We realize that, we just have a different idea of fun that people like you who can't fathom the enjoyment of a good discussion of history, politics, and economics.
>> [_] Anon 2388700 >retirement >only achievable by sending all of the poorfags to jail
>> [_] Anon 2388701 >># https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO _yg
>> [_] Anon 2388702 >># No, I mean "being allowed to go into China and see if the people want to buy any British goods". If the British are trying to turn China into a colony it seems odd that the peace treaties after two successive military humiliations of China all focus on the right to trade and travel rather than, say, annexing territory.
>> [_] wow wise man 2388703 so much ignorance in this post; do some of you occasionally switch to the business channel and memorise all the crap you hear? although the economy is artificial, man does not have control over it. many of the things you guys state as fact with no basis are just theories. for example, that there is a poorest percentile is almost certain, but that this percentile must be deprived is not.
>> [_] Anon 2388704 >># > people like you who can't fathom the enjoyment of a good discussion of history, politics, and economics. your on 4chan you want a real honest dicussion go somewhere else thats not populated by people who jerk off to mlp, cripples and have moved out of their mothers basement.
>> [_] Anon 2388707 >># not as fun without those exact people. And to be fair, saying those people won't know about history, politics, and economics because they jerk off to X or Y or because they are cripples or because they still live in their parent's basements has no basis in reality and is a pathetic ad hominem attack.
>> [_] Anon 2388709 >># the hell. i had NO machines working, paying 4 pieces per employee, and the faggots i had no room to hire staged an insurrection? the fuck is that about?
>> [_] Anon 2388711 >># It's about the creator of the game making a very poor attempt to make capitalism look bad by artificially limiting the actions you can take.
>> [_] Anon 2388713 >># im not going to get into this with you. i know you read that logical fallacy poster so you think your a master debater but i never said because they are cripples i said they beat off to cripples 2nd certain sexual deveations are a product of social isolation as is the basement part and social isolation is kinda detrimental to politics isnt it. granted you could get your political dick wet via the internet but lets be honest most of everyone here wouldnt spend more than 1 minute on a news site unless it had some violent shit on it. 4chan isnt known to breed or house scholars and for good reason dont bullshit yourself into thinking otherwise with 1st year college bullshit philsophy and film/book quotes that any asshole could read at their local library.
>> [_] Anon 2388716 >># For starters, thank you for the laugh. Secondly, learn your English grammar, you did indeed say they were cripples. Third, social isolation is not detrimental to politics, it is detrimental to social skills. Someone who reads a lot of political theory will be well versed in politics regardless of whether they are capable of communicating with another living creature without being hidden behind a screen or not. Fourth, no one said 4chan breeds or houses scholars, except you, but at this point I'm doubting you are really even aware of what is spewing out of your mouth at (or really your fingers, as we are on computers here.) and finally, I don't recall ever taking any "first year college bullshit philsophy" classes, but I can assure you if a college near me ever did offer "bullshit philsophy" as a class, I would be right there to take it.
>> [_] Anon 2388719 >># trying to save face is a bitch aint it.
>> [_] Anon 2388721 I've actually beat it, in two different ways
>> [_] Anon 2388722 >># save face? what would anyone need to save face for on an anonymous message board? No one here has a face to save. Are you really that retarded?
>> [_] Anon 2388723 >># name calling is a sign of anger. if your feelings are hurt we can talk about it.
>> [_] Anon 2388724 So theres bankruptcy, insurrection and retirement. Anything else? I can't get retirement without getting machines because the boxes just don't want to get processed for no reason.
>> [_] Anon 2388726 >># I thought we were talking about it.
>> [_] Anon 2388729 >># sometimes i play with my dick in public
>> [_] Anon 2388733 >># >people actually believe this
>> [_] Anon 2388734 seems like max wages are able to support 3 mice comfortably, I instantly blasted anyone who bitched too much and eventually maxed out the jail which stopped new workers, had a 50/50 split of machines, achieved retirements
>> [_] Anon 2388735 ok hold on. why all of a sudden do i HAVE to keep hiring workers as if im in charge of feeding the whole human race? when a businessman has enough people he just stops hiring. why does this have to lead to riots?? its not like it ever gave me the option to buy a bigger warehouse.
>> [_] Anon 2388736 >># absolutely euphoric
>> [_] Anon 2388737 >># because the game is bad
>> [_] Anon 2388738 >># welp...
>> [_] Anon 2388739 Game is skewed as fuck. Even when you have all workforce working correctly, you can't win. Income is enought to maintain everything until for no reason the chain stops selling shit and stock is piling up. Then they get sold but you don't get the income.
>> [_] Anon 2388740 >># its the idea that consumers eventually get "bored" of the product or something.
>> [_] Anon 2388741 >># Like this? Fuckers complain to you not hiring them. Go fuck yourself and be a street cleaner instead.
>> [_] Anon 2388742 >># >tried to upload picture on /f/ derp here it is http://imgur.com/U4fXxQ1 >># But then you have to make research faster and use a computer, which implies firing a mouse who will fuck shit up.
>> [_] Anon 2388744 >># >># shit i never got this effect arent your mice sad? they fuck up the product on purpose when they are sad
>> [_] Anon 2388745 >># >># The grey part on histogram are demand previsions. You have to get a new product before the old one stops selling.
>> [_] Anon 2388746 >># it's not the production being messed up, it's perfectly salable goods just piling up on your production line.
>> [_] Anon 2388747 >># well actually, i managed to finally beat the game with a full reaserch team of humans. 100% research and production, 50% wages to be paid. and hell, i paid them the max.
>> [_] Lockwert !nnIgGerRZ. 2388748 >># There you go. State regulations over companies.
>> [_] Anon 2388752 Oh yeah, anyone else get to retirement?
>> [_] Anon 2388755 >># 120 units sold, with fully automated factory and full prison
>> [_] Anon 2388756 >># It's trivially easy once you get the hang of it. Done it with around 75 units sold once. Could probably manage with less.
>> [_] Anon 2388763 >># PLEASE TUTORIAL HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET RID OF THEM.
>> [_] Anon 2388764 I don't get this game. You auto-win almost no matter how bad you might run shit. How the fuck do you people actually lose?
>> [_] Anon 2388767 >># Most people don't twig to the fact that you can whack the rioting mice in jail by dragging them to the left of the police cat when they cause trouble. Like this guy: >>#
>> [_] Anon 2388769 >># I didn't even know you could do that. I just build machines, and basically autowin before the bottom row even has a chance of filling up. I've tried now, and aside from overpaying/researching nothing but blocks, you can't lose. Hell, someone complaining about wages? Throw him out of the job, and chances are he'll be offering to work for 1 or 2 within SECONDS.
>> [_] Anon 2388771 >This many replies INB4 marked for deletion
>> [_] Anon 2388775 wats the difference between this and the mac donalds game??
>> [_] Anon 2388776 >># I just won with 26 units sold. >># Put both mice on research, research a computer. Put third mouse on research, until computer finished. Fire them before paying a second paycheck. Use single computer to research additional computers. Use max computers to research new boxes until you hit maximum worth on each box (6 value per box). Build a single auto-assembly crane. gg
>> [_] Anon 2388777 Best thing I managed to pull off: put everyone on researching and research servers. Once I have 6 servers I research cubes. While doing so I try to fill up my prison, so no additional workers show up. I keep enjoying cubes changing colors, while I'm neither gaining nor losing money, thus never going for retirement or bankrupt. And because there are no workers or unemployed on screen, I don't need to worry about insurrection.
>> [_] Anon 2388786 >86 replies Fucking guaranteed replies.
>> [_] Anon 2388788 >># i wanna say that the replies came from the holes in the game. not the ensuing political debate. but hey...
>> [_] Anon 2388799 >># You cannot; I never automated production, fired workers who stopped working (without even demanding anything; I did actually keep my workers well paid enough to keep even the most...fussy? volatile?...at 1/2 happiness), promoted good workers, demoted or fired bad R&D guys, made sure to do worker placement for people imprisoned after they decided to stop trying to break shit. I was even making a good bit of profit (though it got dicey about halfway through). but at some point the game arbitrarily decided there was absolute insurrection! I appreciate the concept, but this game is very much flawed, both as a game and as a political statement.
>> [_] Anon 2388805 >># Ah, okay, I just realized what the deal is; there's inherently a 'kill-screen' because there's not 100% employment, because there's 0 operations growth by the company while there's basically infinite population growth over time. I neglected to notice that the fractures are also caused by unemployment, so you're destined to lose regardless of how ethical or fairly you operate your business. Basically if you play the game well enough, the ending is then 5 unemployed guys killing the research and work forces, automating their positions, imprisoning a small business owner, and dancing in the streets. I'm going to assume that that's not really what was supposed to happen, what with the whole 'better mousetrap', cat and mouse angle.
>> [_] Anon 2388807 >># I inevitably ended up automating, I would like to keep man power as I enjoy handcrafted products. But due to machines we don't need people to devote their lives to building a product, what I got out of it was the eventual mechanization of everything to minimize problems and maximize profits. Its kind of sadly true.
>> [_] Anon 2388812 >># If we could make the entire thing automated then we'd have a way to produce and sell, while the firm will pay taxes to keep the unemployed not working. Humanity would be able to focus on something else, more productive like research and improving but nope, the unemployed will just fuck around while 1-5% will still conduct research. This would be startrek, too bad it'll never happen.
>> [_] Anon 2388819 >># Interesting point. Also you would have to take into account of a population explosion perhaps and quality of life as well. I just want to see man make a moon base, even if its temporary before i die
>> [_] Anon 2388822 who made this game? chavez? its definitely made by some butthurt communist
>> [_] Anon 2388823 >># Yeah. Heard somewhere that the star trek system wouldn't be able to hold itself because of currency not being existent or devalued. Now that i think about it, it would mean pretty much ideal communism. Still, the amounts of factors (like you said, quality of life etc) would still tip things over. They tried that in Romania and it kinda got to bankruptcy and then revolution. Moonbases would be nice. I hope we'll get to see another lunar landing first with current day technology.
>> [_] Anon 2388825 >># >># >># >># trips and dubs truth has spoken
>> [_] Anon 2388829 aaand today's lesson is: fuck mice, embrace machines.
>> [_] Anon 2388830 Holy shit this is going to break 100 replys
>> [_] Anon 2388832 >># never saw a 300 replies post here didn't you?
>> [_] Anon 2388833 100 get
>> [_] Anon 2388834 >># Nice
>> [_] Anon 2388836 What's the goal? Get many units sold until retirement? or Get few units sold until retirement?
>> [_] Anon 2388839 >># >2010+1+1+1+1+1+1 >2016 wat
>> [_] Anon 2388842 toasting in epic bread
>> [_] Anon 2388851 >># >doesnt know how to read a subtraction sign >doesnt reread something he thinks might be wrong >posting in a capitalist thread and there's the representative for the 95-99% of people who'd be fucking around >>#