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>> [_] Anon 1222275 Jesus Christ I am so fucking bored
>> [_] Anon 1222277 Its a nice idea, but how practical is it?
>> [_] Anon 1222282 Technocommunism
>> [_] Anon 1222284 The biggest variable these presentations fail to consider is irrational human behavior. Petty theft, uncataloged resource distribution or deprivation could throw off calculation of optimal courses of action.
>> [_] Anon 1222288 >># Instinct and impunity are far from irrational. People think all humans have escaped primal instincts. Most haven't.
>> [_] Anon 1222290 >># Exactly, if central distribution finds that the suicide of 10,000 people or even 1 person would optimize efficiency would self-preservation allow that person to follow through with it under this worldview?

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>> [_] Anon 1208344 ASS.

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>> [_] Anon 1188143 Enjoy your communism. Too bad it'll never work in the real world.
>> [_] Anon 1188148 Bullshit what's the point of progress if we gain nothing ourselves that someone who puts in less effort can easily obtain.

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>> [_] Anon 1102221 In Summary, Communism... But the author is too much of a pussy to just call it that.

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>> [_] Anon 1077733 Eliminating property... Or more precisely private property. From the first vid, I'm guessing you believe jews did 9-11.
>> [_] Tripan !!GDT6q55vw8k 1077757 I'll be more willing to listen when a step by step plan arise on actually getting to this new model, you commie bastard
>> [_] Anon 1077760 >># Don't look to the Zeitgeist Movement for that, then. Unlike the real commies, they're all ideas and no coherent plans to realize them.
>> [_] Anon 1077770 Zeitgeist is a straw man. It's designed to convince you to throw out the baby with the bath water.
>> [_] Anon 1077776 An absolute load of bullocks. Beware anyone who tries to devalue private property. History is littered with disasters that grew from this flawed thinking. Also, pay careful attention to how distorted the idea of power is here. This is also something to be careful not get sucked into: Power is seen as A being able to change B's behavior regardless if both A and B benefit from the transaction. (Consumer are mindless robots, etc.) TRUE power/control over others is the ability for A to LIMIT and withhold B's choices. Both of these ideas tried numerous time throughout history - always with the promise of a new utopia - always end with the same result: tyranny, oppression and murder.
>> [_] Albert Einstein 1077788 Commie or facist, it's seems the world is split in two. When an answer lies in neither direction. Nor left or right is correct. The only true direction is up. Although by the sounds of it property won't be simply abolished by this movement, but changed into something slightly different. Rather than buying or selling a home, you simply move into an available one and someone is then able to move into the home you just left, without having deal with realtors, banks, and money related to buying and selling a home. This is based on the ideal that everyone, everywhere who is able to work, will work, because it's part of their duty as a society. Meaning that jobs would be based more on your interests rather than the need for money since money would be an outdated concept.
>> [_] Albert Einstein 1077789 >># Basically, it would be a system that passes on ownership, if passing on ownership would be more efficient than just keeping it. So you still own your house, it's just you don't profit or lose money from it when you decide its time to find a new one. Zeitgeist is a concept that few understand and many even fear, even though the current path of humanity is going in a downward spiral, repeating the same events in a slightly different way. Prepare for the next Holocaust, if time has taught us anything it's never to attack Russia, and events repeat themselves.
>> [_] Anon 1077804 I'm so glad that this got posted again. I thought we might go 24 hours without it getting reposted.
>> [_] Anon 1077813 Fucking Communist bastards.

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>> [_] Zeitgeist = Socialism = crap Anon 995731 This Zeitgeist crap is carbon copy of socialism, just renamed. It's a load of crap; 1.)Illogical- if you follow what it states, it defeats its self. You can not own nothing and be free (because someone will tell you when and where to do something). 2.)It has no proof. I have watched a couple of these videos and each has neglected to put true facts in the video. Just because the video says it is true, does not make it that way. The same logic goes with "scientology" (which has nothing to do with science) Where the creator takes something that makes sense into something that is false just to gain power and influence over another individual.
>> [_] zeitgeist idk 995758 It has absolutely nothing to do with socialism. Socialism uses money, and involves a power structure which decides what resources go where. Because it requires this power structure, it is inherently corrupt. I agree that it is somewhat far fetched and there is not as much proof as they would have you believe, but it seems a hell of a lot better than the current system. Besides, you cannot let your present perception of corruption taint your view of the movement. It involves a complete restructuring of society and its value systems. On the subject of ownership, I have to say I completely disagree. Possessions limit freedom, they do not create it. It seems like you have a basic concept of the movement, but not a thorough one. I recommend you look farther into it before totally dismissing it.

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>> [_] Anon 955086 where is the hood at? no seriously... i was specting that
>> [_] Anon 955090 That all sounds nice, but there is absolutely no way that would ever happen.
>> [_] Anon 955094 I see 'z motion' and I think dragon punch
>> [_] Anon 955097 >># at least not in our generation. Hell gotta start the movement somehow though. right?
>> [_] Anon 955102 This is horribly flawed logic. Implementing this sort of model would cause social turmoil even if it was possible to sustain.
>> [_] Anon 955114 lol...........stuuuuupid flash
>> [_] Anon 955129 agreed, the logic is shocking. the system would be incredibly fragile more so then the current one. sure lets all go play golf, oh no golf clubs? maybe to many people are playing golf. fuck no one wants to make golf clubs? hang on why does that guy have 200 golf clubs at his house? he is a prick and gets off on making people angry :)
>> [_] Anon 955291 >># ...or maybe no one needs to make golf clubs cause people already made machines that can do it without a problem and the only humans needed to maintain production are a few guys who like tinkering with that stuff.
>> [_] Anon 955293 Can someone link to where these flashes come from plz?
>> [_] Anon 955301 >># If nanotechnology were more advanced there wouldn't even need to be any humans to watch over the machines. Nanobots could be sent notifications of failures in the mechanical systems, then use that information to create solvents and move parts the way they need to be so that no human interaction is necessary.
>> [_] Anon 955346 zzz
>> [_] Anon 955460 the rest?
>> [_] Anon 955461 Sorry for the off-topic noob question, but cuold anyone tell me the name of a good program for saving flash files? I have Firefox, and I can't seem to find a good add-on for 5.0.
>> [_] Anon 955463 >># Sorry, I've actually got V3.0.8.
>> [_] Anon 955465 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox /addon/1993
>> [_] Anon 955473 >># If we had magic that could give everyone everything then we'd all be happy! Sounds like communism with a different name. No one would work because everyone gets shit for free.
>> [_] Anon 955481 Communism, in it's own sense, is the perfect fit for society. However, because we are human beings, we are flawed. We are greedy to a certain point, some more than others. Not everyone will work to their potential, and some will even swindle their way out of work. Therefore Communism could never work.
>> [_] Anon 955546 >># so how is that in anyway a 'perfect fit'?