File: Loneliness27.swf-(2.32 MB, Game)
[_] Fell free to read after playing. Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:28 No.1739269
Whether you liked the game or not, take a look at this.
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/mechanics-as-metaphor-part-1
Have fun.
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>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:31 No.1739270
No boobs no fun
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:34 No.1739272
liked it
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:36 No.1739274
>>1739272
Glad to hear. Watched the video?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:46 No.1739279
>>1739274
yea. it was a little stupid but i guess examining mechanics is alright
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:49 No.1739281
>>1739279
the show is usually interesting but not quite accurate, I admit. But I like the ideas being
brought up, that's why I thought I might as well post it here.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)15:52 No.1739285
Not a game, just a metaphor for whiny bitches.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)16:54 No.1739323
9deep11me ;_;
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)17:05 No.1739329
>>1739285
>>1739323
see the vid.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)17:14 No.1739336
OP, that was really touching for some reason. Thank you for making it.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)17:23 No.1739340
>>1739336
just posted it here, heh.
Have a nice day.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)17:27 No.1739345
pretty fucking pointless
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)17:42 No.1739352
I feel bad now.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)18:06 No.1739370
>a notgame
closed, reported, disliked and called the police on your garbage shit 'art game' for gay faggots
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)18:08 No.1739373
>>1739370
read the goddamn OP for crying out loud
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)18:27 No.1739387
Hot damn, my childhood in a flash movie!
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)18:35 No.1739392
i kinda wish for an in da hood in the middle of that
but the power to change the course of everyone else in the (x) is good is the metaphor i got
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)18:47 No.1739398
Is it wrong that I got a feeling of sadistic satisfaction knowing that I was traveling along
destroying all those other dots and their meaningless little formations? chasing every last one
of them down and ensuring that all of their well laid plans were completely ruined?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)19:01 No.1739410
>>1739373
Oh please. According to the video, >>1739370 is just as valid a response as any other.
>> [_] Doublegold !!AuAuJw9qixy 08/08/12(Wed)19:10 No.1739416
I audibly baw'd. Poor pixel.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)19:16 No.1739422
how fucking pretentious can you get holy shit, both this shitty game and this shitty video.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)19:20 No.1739428
>>1739373
The video was pretty dumb because I didn't get emotional in the game. I thought the point of the
game was to run into each group and push them away but that didn't make me feel lonely and I
wasn't angry at the dots for being propelled away. It was a shitty game and the video tried to
glorify it as having more choice than fallout 3 and other games. There was no choice in this game
other than your own imagination, which all the games the video compared it to would be a better
place to imagine things. The game shows you as a dot traveling along a white screen with other
dots moving away from you. You're meaning to tell me this game has more choice because of its
mechanic than a 3-D world with a shitload of landscapes?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)19:22 No.1739432
Neckbeard simulator.swf
>> [_] Double Gold !!AuAuJw9qixy 08/08/12(Wed)19:36 No.1739441
>>1739370
>>1739428
You're trashing the video because the game didn't relate to you? The video even considered people
that didn't receive a reaction. If the game didn't emotionally include you, that's your own
prerogative. Plenty of people obviously suffer from loneliness, and can relate themselves to the
game. Clearly it isn't a problem for you, so why /would/ it spark any emotion?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)19:38 No.1739443
>>1739441
I've been lonely before you faggot. You seriously expect me to believe that dots moving away from
other dots is an extremely complex concept and "metaphorical mechanic" that justifies a five
minute video because "theres just so much to talk about"? No, fuck you OP, you're a fag.
>> [_] Double Gold !!AuAuJw9qixy 08/08/12(Wed)19:45 No.1739446
>>1739443
Everyone has, but you obviously don't suffer from it -- or you can't/refuse to relate to games in
this way. Nobody said it was extremely complex.
You're so mad about nothing, and you're missing the point of the video. Even if the game didn't
emotionally involve you, it was an example of having that mechanic in games -- you don't believe
such an example would work for everybody, do you?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:05 No.1739465
>>1739446
I played the game, I understood the concept of loneliness being conveyed because of the title of
the game and because of the way the game progresses. I didn't feel lonely or associate with the
dots like they were people, but I understood.
The video is dumb because it plays it off like the mechanic is the entire reason someone would
feel lonely when playing this game. Even the creator calls it a nongame because its basically an
interactive story demonstrating loneliness, but the video somehow thinks that a dot moving around
in its little linear storyline gives more opportunity for choice than a 3-D sandbox landscape
like Fallout 3.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:06 No.1739468
>>1739465
(cont.):
So no, I didn't get the point of the video because the video is stupid and there is no mechanic
here that can be applied to other video games, unless you consider the mechanic to be loneliness
itself which is already present in video games. There's nothing new or groundbreaking here which
is why OP is a fag for urging people to watch the video. If OP wanted intelligent discussion, he
could have just submitted the flash without the pretentious video.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:11 No.1739471
>>1739441
The video also accounted for people thinking that the whole thing is stupid and quitting halfway
through...
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:16 No.1739477
At first I was like "lulz, daily serving of hipster bs."
And then I was like "HOOOOO! CLEAR A PATH MUTHERFUCKERS!" as I ran into crowd after crowd like
pigeons.
And then as they got fewer and fewer I kind of gulped but I didn't surrender my nervous smile.
And by the time I reached the end, the only thing I could see was my face reflected in my
pitch-black screen, and it wasn't smiling anymore.
It was the face of a person who knew that feel.
>> [_] Double Gold !!AuAuJw9qixy 08/08/12(Wed)20:22 No.1739481
>>1739465
>like the mechanic is the entire reason someone would feel lonely when playing this game
...It /is/, but of course the user has to be involved to make the mechanic effective -- if that's
what you're saying. What would this game be without it? You could move a pixel on a gradient.
Where does the emotional involvement stem from, then?
The choices in this game VS. actual games was really dumb, no need to even argue there. Clearly
there's better games available, but he said beforehand that the choices you make can say a lot
about your personality -- that's the point I interpreted.
I don't think it's the best video either, but your main argument was about the video not relating
to you, and trashing the video because of your own experience with the game. Again, the video
clearly pointed out there's some people who don't have a reaction from the game.
For some people it's new or insightful; but of course, it isn't groundbreaking by any means.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:31 No.1739490
>>1739477
After posting this I see some people posting who didn't seem to play it all the way through. It's
probably ruined for you now because now you have expectations of the game and the impact has
faded, but its actually a very poignant little game.
I remember reading the article OP posted and this is a great example of what they were talking
about. There's a sort of "The 6th Sense" moment where everything clicks, and you realize the
author isn't just showing you loneliness, he's showing you the dynamic of loneliness itself.
Where the punch lies is when the pattern of what the other dots do is so deeply ingrained in you
that when the frequency of them fades and you no longer see them as a group, but as an
individual, in the momentary space between when you first see them individually and when you
approach them, you realize what's going to happen and that you're already defeated.
And then everything fades into itself and nothing matters anymore.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:33 No.1739494
>>1739481
Alright, I see your point, and I understand. I liked the game, just not the video.
For these kinds of things you just have to be in the right mood to take it in.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:35 No.1739496
How do I shoot?
>> [_] Double Gold !!AuAuJw9qixy 08/08/12(Wed)20:35 No.1739497
>>1739477
>>1739490
Deep. Sad, but deep.
It's amazing what emotions can be triggered by a simple little game.
>> [_] Double Gold !!AuAuJw9qixy 08/08/12(Wed)20:38 No.1739500
>>1739494
I see your point too. I didn't really like the video to begin with, anyway. 8D
Agreed. Can't really gain anything from the video unless you capture the experience yourself --
otherwise it seems like bullshit.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)20:45 No.1739509
It would have been better if instead of the other dots were women and the your dot was the Korean
boy the end statement speaks of
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)21:01 No.1739527
>>1739477
That was beautiful...
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/12(Wed)21:19 No.1739557
if the artist's intent can be summarized in a single simple sentence, the piece is objectively
juvenile
this idea of art being a vague series of stimuli (dots on white background moving away from each
other) with a small inkling of coherency (a title, an afterword) is just boring. art should have
multiple layers of concepts and philosophies that can be unified into a worldview because that's
what the human experience is - complexity, contradiction, multifariousness. simplicity is great,
but only if the message isn't trite like this is.
tl;dr: things can make you feel, but not everything that makes you feel is "art"
