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[_] Lik if u cry ervy time Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)02:20 No.1817864
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>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)02:27 No.1817867
oddly compelling
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)02:36 No.1817870
Sauce?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)02:37 No.1817872
charlie chaplin the dictator
or something like that i think
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)02:52 No.1817881
like
>>1817872: yeah thats right
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)03:19 No.1817903
I applaud the person that made this.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)04:32 No.1817926
Chaplin was an unabashed leftist/socialist. This whole speech is
soaked in Marxist bullcrap.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)04:43 No.1817932
I clap.
It annoys my roommates who are trying to sleep
>> [_] AdamB15 11/27/12(Tue)04:56 No.1817938
>>1817926
Noted. It's inspiring nonetheless.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)05:24 No.1817946
how do i find this version on youtube?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)05:32 No.1817948
>>1817926
I love how people from the USA treat socialism as though it's the same system as fascism or
communism.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)05:41 No.1817952
>>1817926
I'm sorry. The hardships of life seem to have left you callus and bitter. I know the bitterness
and anger can make you critical of the good in life, unable to appreciate and enjoy it without
seeing evil or ill intent. But please, in cases such as this, please see the greatness and beauty
in what this speech is trying to inspire.
Although we've never met,
Your friend
Anon
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)05:47 No.1817956
We've come so far now that things like generosity, kindness, and care for our fellow man have
become so much less valuable to each other that the term "socialism" and "liberal" are spat out
like epithets. Where the belief that being lazy is good reason to be allowed to starve and where
the sick and unfortunate are seen only as a burden and we all hope they die quietly and quickly
so we don't have to deal with their problems. It frightens me how people tout the Word of God,
and yet in the same breath imply that giving a man a loaf of bread is somehow wrong because he
had the same chance to get that bread that you did, and therefore feeding him would somehow
undermine the fabric of society. I desperately wont for the second coming, not for vengeance upon
those who are too hard and selfish to care, but for silence from the mouths of those who preach
those things as virtues.
People who make these sorts of things possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_es3t2HDWb8
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)06:00 No.1817958
>>1817948
Considering all three require a totalitarian state to enforce, it may as well be.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)06:05 No.1817961
>>1817958
Socialism requires only a public consensus to direct tax money towards public services. Socialism
does not wholly imply an equal distribution of wealth and property like Communism does, so to
state that it requires a totalitarian state to enforce is like saying capitalism requires a
totalitarian state to enforce because a centralized empowered body is required to provide
mandates and enforce codified business and exchange law.
Again, you fail to understand how communism and fascism are different. You can have democratic
socialism.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)06:06 No.1817963
>>1817958
In fact, by your definition of "Totalitarianism" anything that isn't anarchy is totalitarian
because you can enforce law.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)06:07 No.1817964
>>1817961
>>1817963
>tyranny of the majority isn't totalitarianism
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)07:19 No.1817982
>>1817952
are you rich ?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)07:21 No.1817983
>Hail_Hitler.swf
>Hail
.....
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)07:30 No.1817986
I hate people who spout "socialist" and "liberal" like it's some sort of crime to believe in
those ideals, but for the same reason I hate people who spout "conservative" in much that same
way. People who bicker about this shit are apparently too stupid to realize that you need a
balance of both these things to have a truly progressive society. You can't have a truly pure
socialist or communist society nor can you have a hyper capitalist society. Capitalism as long as
it has at least some over sight is a machine crafted by humanity to turn a vice into a virtue it
makes greed profitable for more than one man; this working in tandem with socialist ideals can
create a truly great society.
too bad no ones perfected the formula yet...
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)07:40 No.1817987
As inspiring as his speech is, it only reinforces my belief that we, as humans, will never truly
live in peace. It is much easier to destroy life and happiness than it is to create it.
>> [_] Repost-chan 11/27/12(Tue)07:49 No.1817990
TL;DR
Socialism/communism is great and all, except for the part that forgets 10% of the population has
ASPD or psychopathy. A large chunk of the population would eat a whole fucking baby raw after
they smothered it to death with shit and cum if they thought they'd be compensated later.
Welcome to Earth.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)07:51 No.1817991
>>1817964
So... You are indeed anarchist?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)07:55 No.1817992
>>1817926
marxist who said we should fight for democracy
gtfo out of the pool newfag
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)08:36 No.1818008
>>1817986
HRRMY THE ANSWER IS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
Stop with the false equivalency bullshit, please.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)08:52 No.1818015
For those who care, it's "The great dictator". You can even watch it on Youtube for free
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)09:54 No.1818033
>>1817964
"Dictatorship of the Proletariat" != Tyranny by Majority
Get learnt, son. Read those things we call books.
>>1817990
I don't think you know what Socialism is.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:02 No.1818037
i did not cry, but i did cheer when i saw cybermen, and laughed when i saw soylent green
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:07 No.1818041
ITT: people talking about utopian civizilizations as if they would exist.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:10 No.1818044
>>1818041
Noone is talking about Utopian Socialism here.
Try again.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:36 No.1818054
>>1818044
talkig about socialism/communism/liberalism is utopian. Everybody knows that they wouldnt work
the way people says.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:38 No.1818056
>>1818054
Since you think it's utopian, please give your definition of what it is.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)10:56 No.1818063
>>1818056
people who talks about other systems always talk about the good points of it, but the truth is,
that it is worse than a crazy-ass capitalism. Why dont you talk about the bad points of the
system you believe is the best?
If you say that there aren't bad points, I would like to know more about it, since all systems I
know are full of flaws and problems.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)11:11 No.1818073
Well, since you have declined to answer, I shall entertain you with a correction:
First, one must understand that in the spectrum of political ideology there are three axes:
Social, Political, and Economic. Socialism concerns the economic axis. There are a lot of
stereotypes associated with socialism. Nationalization, planned economies, redistribution of
wealth, forced equality, etc.
Socialism at it's core is two things:
-People's access to the means of production
-Democracy in the workplace
Everything else is extra, and variations in ideology.
Communism takes it further with wealth distribution the abolition of the State. The abolition of
the state is wholly incompatible with Totalitarianism (nothing BUT the State), and thus whenever
someone compares the two, they are misled. Stalinism, what people incorrectly associate with
Communism, was State Capitalism.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)11:13 No.1818075
>>1818073 cont'd
Why State Capitalist, you say? It did not meet the two core requirements for Socialism, and thus
cannot be Communist either. Stalin's Russia was largely undemocratic, and the means of production
was seized by the State, and not the people.
What you are on about with Liberalism, though, I don't have a clue. Not only has it been
successful, but widely practiced, especially in the United States and Europe, and I'm sure Milton
Friedman would like a word with you.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)12:08 No.1818094
>>1818075
I agree with most you said, because they are nothing more than explanations of what they are.
State capitalism has huge problem: State. Because all of the nation's production goes to the
state, the state holds all the three axis and this is the problem.
About the liberalism, a lot of people in real world and virtual world like to use "liberalism",
"communism", "vegan" and things like that to define their point of view, and starts blabbling
about it being perfect and everyone should idolatrize as if it were some kind of god that will
transform our current world in a eden's garden.
My favorite system is capitalism, adding market to the equation made the progress run at a scale
never seen before. A system that reward people by their labor.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)12:14 No.1818096
>>1818094
Yeah, that's what's confusing about the word Liberal. It can mean liberal in a more economic
sense, Classical Liberal, or leftist in a social sense, Social Liberal. Of which the two aren't
necessarily the same. :)
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)12:18 No.1818098
>pro-world unity
well that pretty cool i sup-
>aimed at american audience
oh ffs...
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)12:47 No.1818112
>>1817991
welcome to 4chen
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)13:07 No.1818119
>>1818073
>>1818075
thank you, mainly for not being an idiot. and also for taking the time to say things the right
way( not aggressive, insulting or mocking anyone)
>>1818094
it's kind of silly to say your favourite system is capitalism, since you, me, or pretty no one
has ever seen communism in action.
only socialism as being practised so far and its ratio of success and failure is similar to the
one of capitalism. a good example of successful socialism is Singapore. or just look at every
country that offer school( at any level) or medical services paid by everyone. or even roads and
general services.
i'm not denying anything to capitalism. but i hope you can see that capitalism with restrain is
just as bad as feudalism in some ways. it's a image of course, i just hope you can understand my
point.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/27/12(Tue)13:25 No.1818129
>Get a room you gaiz
