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[_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)18:27 No.2358389
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>> [_] Ron Claude 04/21/14(Mon)18:29 No.2358393
You know, if that was literally how it happened, I think it's be an improvement for America.
Babies are assholes.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)18:46 No.2358411
turkwise...
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)18:47 No.2358412
if that was what my tax money were actually being spent on, I don't think I'd have any problem
paying my taxes... campaign discretionary funds, no... baby killing, shut up and take my money
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)18:55 No.2358418
neeeed sauce
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)18:59 No.2358423
Is the guy wearing his reaper costume backwards? The hood should be on the back.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:02 No.2358425
>>2358423
Oh, I interpreted that hood part a bit differently.
>I've been on here too long
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:05 No.2358426
Kill babies and then give Boob jobs.
The American dream.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:07 No.2358431
>>2358425
>>2358423
Are you implying the hood is not where the hood should be at?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:07 No.2358432
>>2358418
Yeah, we really need a youtube video link for this shit
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:07 No.2358433
Why the hell would they think it's a good idea to do that right in front of the white house? I
mean sure, freedom of speech, but seriously, if I was Obama and saw them doing that right outside
my house, I'd order someone to make it look like an accident.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:10 No.2358437
So if I'm interpreting this correctly, my tax dollars are being spent on bad performance art.
Stupid government.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:10 No.2358438
>>2358389
This is accurate. Why should I pay taxes to sluts?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:11 No.2358439
>>2358437
That, and people who live off of social welfare instead of searching for a job or opening a trade.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:12 No.2358440
"rend unto caesar's what is caesar's" is a jesus quote is the best part
>>2358438
because your mom deserves benefits, faglord
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:14 No.2358441
>>2358440
No she doesn't. My mom is a welfare leach who all through my childhood refused to get a job
because she was already getting government benefits.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:15 No.2358446
But this is an accurate portrayal of what's going on in the country.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:21 No.2358450
>>2358446
And this was probably put on by liberals as satire.
Real Pro-lifers wouldn't try and make abortion funny.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:24 No.2358451
>>2358450
you vastly underestimate the tastelessness of those who believe their cause is just, getting
together in public, trying to get attention.
Protesters are fucking stupid sometimes, it's embarassing.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:26 No.2358454
>>2358451
I'm pro-life, please show me some evidence that they are pro-life instead of conjecture.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:26 No.2358455
>>2358451
Well, at least they make for good comedy.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:34 No.2358462
>>2358431
WHERE THE HOOD WHERE THE HOOD WHERE THE HOOD AT
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:35 No.2358464
>>2358438
you should pay taxes to sluts so in 20 years you don't have bastards mugging you at knifepiont
for crack money
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:36 No.2358465
>>2358433
I'm sorry you don't know what it's like to live in the land of the free.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:37 No.2358467
>>2358450
christians love community theatre, it gives them a chance to pretend to be real people.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:42 No.2358469
>pro-life
Stop using this phrase.
Unless these people are extremist Jains who have never eaten meat or stepped on a bug their
entire life, they aren't "pro-life", but rather, just "anti-abortion".
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:43 No.2358472
Gotta love the role reversal as Obama whips the obedient white slave.
...
no, boner, no!
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:44 No.2358473
>>2358469
This guy gets it. I don't see any pro-lifers chained up to any old-growth forests.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:45 No.2358476
>>2358464
That's why I have guns.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:53 No.2358487
>>2358476
>Owning guns
Enjoy having the ATF busting down your door at 2 in the morning in 4 years
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:55 No.2358490
>>2358487
Yep.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:57 No.2358491
>>2358469
Which would make "pro-abortion"ists "anti-life"ists, correct?
Or perhaps, since you think everyone that eats meat is anti-life, how about it is "anti-abortion"
against "anti-human"?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)19:58 No.2358494
>>2358491
No one is pro-abortion. Don't be stupid.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:00 No.2358496
>>2358494
So nobody is fighting for the right to abort their children?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:00 No.2358497
>Implying Asians get abortions
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:03 No.2358502
>>2358496
Nobody is parading around the streets looking for premature babies to kill or pregnant woman to
kill, no. No one is pro-/abortion/.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:06 No.2358506
>>2358502
So then what do you call people that are petitioning and protesting for state and federal
government support in the case of abortion?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:07 No.2358509
>>2358497
Actually... ever hear of China's One Child Policy?
Resulted in plenty of backalley abortions and the stereotypical "basket down the river." All
because of the culturally-driven gender preference.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:08 No.2358510
>>2358469
Fine, Pro Human Life.
Sheesh you tree huggers sure know how to put your priorities straight.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:09 No.2358511
>>2358487
>Implying gun owners don't have a second hidden safe for their real arsenal.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:09 No.2358512
>>2358472
>not getting hard from the baby death
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:10 No.2358513
Where the fuck is my turkwise coolaid
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:14 No.2358519
>>2358506
It is not a black-and-white good-versus-evil binary proposition. It is utilitarian grey area
versus moral absolutism. They are people who hesitantly and regretfully want a pragmatic solution
to a personal dilemma, as revolting in principle as it is.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:17 No.2358522
Urnge
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:21 No.2358526
>>2358469
>>>/georgecarlin/
>>2358491
Those opposed to "pro life" call themselves "pro choice". The euphemization is disgusting, but
this is the new America, folks.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:22 No.2358528
>>2358519
Thats confusing mang, can't you make it black and white for me? Try comparing the side you
disagree with to hitler - this is murrica dammit.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:26 No.2358533
>>2358528
Okay, one side wants to use the state to enforce their religious morality and the other doesn't.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:28 No.2358541
>>2358533
>and the other doesn't
Of course, you don't need to convince a civilized state that human life shouldn't be cut short
for arbitrary reasons
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:29 No.2358542
>>2358541
The state shouldn't be involved to begin with.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:30 No.2358543
>>2358519
If you want to feel important by using big words at least use them properly. You've just bunched
them into one big pleonastic tautology
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:32 No.2358547
>>2358543
So you believe that moral choice should not be left up to the individual? Because if it isn't,
and is decided by a third party out of fear of legal punishment, it is no longer a conscious
choice, which is the whole point of morality to begin with.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:36 No.2358552
>>2358542
>there should be no laws about murdering humans as long as they haven't been born yet
Ok bruv
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:37 No.2358556
>>2358552
Enjoy your Leviathan, scro. You can live without ever having to make a decision for yourself.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:41 No.2358562
>>2358556
And you say this whilst simultaneously being a citizen of some sort of nation that enforces laws.
If you intend to hold anti-legal philosophies, consider following them in more than just your
imagination. If laws were so bad, I can't help but wonder why they have been so popular for the
past 3-4 thousand years, if not longer
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:43 No.2358565
>>2358562
The world is dominated by nations that enforce laws. They have crowded out any alternatives by
sheer landmass. Where else am I supposed to be living?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:44 No.2358569
>>2358565
"Alex, what is sub-saharan Africa?"
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:46 No.2358572
>YOU, KILL THAT WOMAN'S BABY
this shit is hilarious
best of all both sides can enjoy it
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:47 No.2358575
>>2358569
Right, the only area they haven't assimilated due to its poor conditions. Thanks to the Scramble
For Africa, anyway. You can thank imperialism for that.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:50 No.2358580
>>2358575
You can also thank imperialism for a globalized market and international relations having real
weight on both politics and culture, which brought about many things such as the very internet
you are using and the literature that you have likely read to gain such an ideology OR the
literature that inspired whoever has preached this ideology you now hold as your own to you. It
is easy to criticize a work of art, but much more difficult to create your own without the
reprisal of the very criticism you are so eager to dish out
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:51 No.2358583
>>2358547
Please think before you post. You've completely missed the point, you possess neither form nor
content, and now you're making cringeworthy accusations. English doesn't have to be your native
language, but you lack basic communication skills. I can smell your autism from ten thousand
miles away.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:52 No.2358587
>>2358411
okay somebody explain this shit to me.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:54 No.2358591
>>2358587
It's how a nigger on welfare says Turquoise. As in Turquoise kool aid. Niggers on welfare (so all
niggers) drink kool aid.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:54 No.2358592
>>2358547
Not that guy you replied to, but that's some faulty reasoning.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:56 No.2358596
>>2358389
> Implying this isn't an accurate depiction of what's going on right now
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:56 No.2358597
~84 children and teens die per day from gun violence.
~100 abortions are preformed per year.
They fuckers aren't pro-life. The just like stirring the shit stew. They probably don't want gays
to get married and adopt because that would be fucking insane and just as bad as aborting the
fetus.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:56 No.2358598
>>2358580
Tell that to the native americans and africans that were decimated by war, resource extraction,
and diseases like smallpox brought upon by the europeans. Might makes right, eh?
>>2358583
You have missed the point as well. Why do you need to delegate all matters of moral affairs to
the state? Surely there are some which can be left to the individual to decide?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)20:59 No.2358602
When baldy put up the hitlerhand
kek't for an hour
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:00 No.2358603
>abortion is scientifically the definition of murder, and it has to remain legal for the good of
the country
how hard is it to understand this
yeah it's morally wrong, it also has to be a thing cause stupid people aren't just gonna stop
having sex
sometimes you have to make hard decisions
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:01 No.2358607
>>2358598
Are you insinuating that it was only Native Americans and Africans that had ever suffered such a
situation? Literally every civilization, even Rome, was the victim of such a thing at one point
or another. I am sure you are going to blame Europeans for such a problem, the same Europeans who
waged wars for centuries with eachother, wars where Italians and Germans fought the French and
British, where Romans fought the Germanic and Frank and Anglo-Saxon tribes, where the Poles and
Romanians held back the hordes of Mongols that slaughtered there way through Eurasia, and where
the Spanish and Germans literally sliced up most of Europe for themselves at the cost of
independence for everyone from the Danes to the Sicilians.
We are all victims of eachother, but we are also conquerers of eachother, and even the Africans
and Native Americans competed with eachother and waged brutal warfare
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:02 No.2358609
>>2358602
The way they smile at the camera always gets me
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:02 No.2358610
>>2358607
Yet none so efficient as civilized society.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:05 No.2358613
>>2358511
Goddamnit anon, not the NSA knows...
Captcha: onaHoth cause
Bitches... I'm on hoth! Cause I wanna be here.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:06 No.2358615
>>2358610
So what do you propose to fix the past? I am not going to claim that events like the Holocaust or
the Nanking Massacre will never happen again, but for the moment things have definitely calmed
down. I suppose you have a terrible disdain for governments under the assumption that their sole
purpose is to ethnically cleanse Indians and Blacks, but you have yet to propose any sort of
solution with a viable procedure
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:09 No.2358624
>>2358615
Not at all. You wanted to know why I'm not living anywhere else, I gave you some basic reasoning
as to why. I had no choice in the matter, simply put. We are where we are because of history and
chance. All I can do as an individual is try and see the whole of it and make a change.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:11 No.2358628
>>2358591
I only know of 4 black people that don't adhere to stereotypes... all of them were raised by
white families (adoption) hell the sister of one went all jungle cock and had a kid when she was
17, so even the ones raised by white parent's can still go back. One of my best freinds who's
black actually told me he's ashamed of what his race has become.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:11 No.2358629
>>2358598
You are infuriatingly dumb and I give up. You are a parody of what people mean when they're
sarcastic about college and an embodiment of what is wrong with the schooling system, AND IT
HURTS TO READ. IT HURTS TO WAKE UP IN THE MORNING KNOWING THERE ARE MISGUIDED KIDS LIKE YOU OUT
THERE WASTING THEIR EFFORT.
For your own sake don't talk so much and actually listen to people who know what they're talking
about, otherwise you have a lot of bad times ahead of you, especially if you get destroyed in
person for being a loud mouthed brat, who thinks he's an intellectual. You have 2 ears and only 1
mouth for a reason. Don't become part of the problem.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:13 No.2358632
>>2358624
And what change do you want to make?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:14 No.2358635
>>2358598
>Native Americans
When Europeans came over to settle North America, the vast majority of the land was legally
bought from the Natives. In most cases of violence, the Natives ended up regretting it,
rationalized that they were somehow tricked off their land or that it was stolen by the
Europeans, and then attacked them.
That led to decades of senseless violence between the settlers and the natives. In reality each
side was just as ruthless and shitty to each other. It wasn't until Andrew Jackson came along and
the Trail of Tears began that actual one-sided oppression and killing against the Native
Americans began to happen.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:14 No.2358636
>>2358629
>>2358583
All I see is ad hominem and no substance of your own. If you want to discuss the merits of
abortion, go ahead. If not you are already a part of the problem.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:17 No.2358642
>>2358632
That's too much to list right here, right now. But in this instance, I would like to question the
efficacy of using the government to solve a moral dilemma.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:20 No.2358652
>>2358642
Yes, perhaps listing those reasons would provoke more responses from others in this thread.
However, if you believe that the government should have no role in legal matters, then who should
handle the legality of certain situations and what should the government be responsible for if
not the introduction, amending, redaction, and enforcement of laws
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:23 No.2358659
>>2358597
Me:
Pros:
>Gun
>Gay marraige
>Selling and taxation of weed. (make it legal so I don't hear the stoners blather anymore about
legalizing it and so that we stop wasting money trying to stop pot from coming in.)
Anti:
>Wellfare (I think we need a government store that gives out basic needs, and we need barebones
public housing. I'm tired of working my ass off and seeing Latysha walk her fat ass out of the
supermarket with a cartfull of steak, watermelon and grap soda when I only buy when I need. Yeah,
call me poorfag.)
>Abortion (Teach these fucktards to use a goddamn condom instead of relying on ruining a life
just to satisfy their fucking whorish tendencies)
>Immigration (Tired of all these mexis pouring in, legal or not... At least make them speak
english. I'm not learning fucking spanish.
Bring on the hate.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:27 No.2358670
>>2358652
I don't think the government should have /no/ role, but in the matters of abortion, I feel like
there's too many factors involved to make a definitive ruling. For one, is an unborn child the
property of the mother (seeing as it's inside her body), the father, or itself? And if it is
itself, there is the added question of consent and that of consciousness. Naturally, in
hindsight, all of us would agree that we would have wanted to live. Yet while inside, are we even
alive and conscious yet enough to qualify as a sapient being? That's where the whole matter of
science gets involved to try and solve this matter of human consciousness.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:30 No.2358673
>>2358670
So if the government can't make the decision, who should?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:30 No.2358674
>>2358670
>con't
And if we grant the government enough power to intervene in the decision of the parent, doesn't
that essentially take away the ownership of the fetus?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:31 No.2358677
>>2358670
Its a being that will eventually develop consciousness.
If the life of that being ends at any point prematurely then what is possibly will not reach its
full potential.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:32 No.2358678
>>2358673
That is a good question. I think it should be left up to the parents, but deciding /which/ parent
would probably necessitate some arbitration in the matter.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:33 No.2358683
>>2358659
I agree with you on some of it. I'm also pro-guns and pro-homo marriage, but I'm very unsure
about the legalization of weed. I recognize that it shouldn't have been made illegal in the first
place, but that was over 100 years ago, the world is a very different place now.
I think we do need wellfare, but we need to get a much MUCH tighter leash on who gets it and who
doesn't.
Abortion is a really, really tricky one, I still have no idea what's the right thing there.
You'll be happy to know that you're required to speak English competently in order to receive
U.S. Citizenship. Same as any other country.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:36 No.2358686
>>2358678
Arbitration, of course, being a third party. The issue that many have with abortion is the
careless situations, where the mother cedes any input from the father and insists that she has
the sole authority of the fetus. While the issues of who is in charge of the fetus are very much
moral, there does remain the issue of parents having unequal power in the decision, as well as
the general concept of abortion. Government is seen as a mediator since, like many other social
issues, the people will consider legality in an issue regardless of the morality of the
situation. I am no stickler for needless laws, but there have been cases where a man was jailed
for aborting a child without the woman's consent under the charge of murder, so it would seem
fairly obvious that the courts are hesitant to admit that their ruling is that abortion is
technically murder.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:37 No.2358689
>>2358476
Your guns will be useless when the sudden influx of un-aborted babies floods society with crime
caused by rampant unemployment and an utter lack of good parenting.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/14(Mon)21:38 No.2358691
>>2358677
And I agree on that, surprisingly, despite the liberal script that I'm supposed to stick to going
on about how it's not guaranteed or something. I think we can assume the statistics are in favor
of biological development. The question is the dilemma brought on by extenuating circumstances
(poverty, life-threatening illness, violent rape, etc)
