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[_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:03 No.2394994
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>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:12 No.2394998
/pol/ joins a LARP group.swf
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:14 No.2395000
I don't get this, she isn't forced or anything to do an abortion.
Its actually more sad if the woman had a baby when she doesn't want it.
The child would suffer abuse from the mother.
Better get killed before you get consciousness.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:14 No.2395001
>>2394998
lol so true
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:31 No.2395007
No, it's just some people making a scene with their freedom of speech.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:39 No.2395013
>>2395007
>Freedom of speech
>mfw this is what Americans actually believe they have
Your freedom of speech these days consists of shit like this. Write something significant
somebody pays attention to and get sued and on a no-fly list.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:41 No.2395017
>>2395000
It is about Obamas healthcare reformal that will increase taxes and about abortions paid by those
taxes.
Some people do think that abortion is about killing baby or that there is not some conventional
time which after fetus is a human, which is true. There is no radical transformation as in my
/m/-series, where fetus turns into a baby. They just cant handle that killing people is sometimes
a good thing. What old fashioned faggots.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)09:56 No.2395020
>>2395017
It's it more like, abortions have to be included in insurance coverage because it's a medical
procedure, making it logical for it to be covered by medical insurance?
I'll never understand why Americans think that, just because they don't like something, they
shouldn't actually apply common sense to it. I could understand not supporting Obamacare because
America's government is so fucking stupid that they turned having salads in their own
congressional cafeterias into a party dividing battle, but hating it because it funds things you
wouldn't do yourself?
Hey, smoking and drinking's 100% voluntary, too, but you don't see me protesting the funding of
cancer research and telling people with lung cancer and liver cancer that they sinned and deserve
to die of cancer for doing "drugs".
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)10:18 No.2395034
>>2395020
The type of logic you describe is exceptionally prevalent in America. Popehat has been
complaining about it a lot, it's hilarious. Such as "guns trump principles": gov't should keep
its hands the hell off guns, and other things, except if a private business voluntarily
disadvantages you for having a gun (such as an insurance company), then the government should
definitely interfere with that private business and gun issue and tell them having a gun is fine
and you must not be disadvantaged for it.
It's as if people have no principles. Yeah, "as if".
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:03 No.2395056
>>2395000
You're implying that there aren't lots of people who would be willing to adopt a baby if the
mother didn't want to raise it herself and wasn't too selfish to give up her rights as legal
parent.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:11 No.2395059
source?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:16 No.2395063
>>2395056
>Not if the kid is black
but anyway who even cares, why should the mother have to go through an extremely painful,
possibly deadly, and possibly very expensive thing for her for the sake of something that's not
more conscious than a fish. Because she failed at contraception?
The only benefit to be expected is pleasing people who have a stupid non-biological outlook on
life that shouldn't even exist.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:39 No.2395078
>>2395056
More babies are given up for adoption than are ever adopted. Supply greatly outweighs demand.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:42 No.2395080
>>2395078
It isn't that supply outweighs demand, its that the demand is artificially limited by unnecessary
regulation. The government would rather have kids dished out to temporary foster homes so that
their agencies have a greater budget, than send them to permanent homes and end the child's ties
to said agency, removing a cause for a bigger budget. Its all corruption and bureaucracy.
Don't get me started on the trend of adopting international babies. Shit like that should be
illegal so long as there is a child in the US that needs a home.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:46 No.2395083
>>2395080
Yeah, if only that pesky ~regulation~ wasn't there, everyone would suddenly start adopting babies
left and right!
By the way, we need more regulation on who you can and can't adopt, because Americans are more
important than anyone else. Just move the problem of unadopted babies somewhere else so we don't
have to care!
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)11:53 No.2395089
>>2395083
>>2395083
>regulation blocks american parents from adopting american children
>same regulation opens the door to adopting children from other countries, while our own citizens
are being prevented from having a home
you're trying to make the argument that the demand for adoption is much less than the supply of
children up for adoption, but this is simply not true. At least, not on the scale you're trying
to claim. There is a demand for adopted children, but it is artificially limited by silly,
pointless regulation that does not apply to adopting children from outside of the country.
Because of this, we see a surge in international adoptions. People want to adopt children, but
the process is so retardedly complicated and tedious that people resort to an easier method,
adopting foreign children.
And yes, taking care of our own citizens is more important that bringing in new people, making
them citizens, and taking care of them instead of those who were born here.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)12:05 No.2395098
i wouldn't mind abortion really
but there's a lot of crazy women out there that don't use it as a last resort
some swedish artist or whatever had like, what, 12 abortions? and she admitted to doing it for
*attention*
at the same time i feel bad for kids with single parents
but no pity for the parents themselves
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)12:14 No.2395109
>>2395056
i mean like
there are orphanages for a reason
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)12:22 No.2395114
>>2395089
It's not because of regulation that people adopt from overseas, they just do it because it's
trendy. And you're fucking delusional if you think this is more than a small minority, like it'd
be enough to solve the problem forever.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)12:46 No.2395128
I didn't know Obama was a sith lord.
>> [_] Thofe Gingler 05/25/14(Sun)13:03 No.2395135
Nonsense. Obama supports homosexuality, which solves the whole abortion problem.
>> [_] WKZworks 05/25/14(Sun)13:08 No.2395140
The world is already grossly overpopulated as it is. This can be seen every day just looking at
the current state of the world economy. There is only a finite amount of wealth to go around this
world. Look at places like Somalia. So really, what's wrong with killing people before they ever
have the chance to see daylight if they're going to have to struggle to lead decent lives? There
are 7 BILLION people on this planet. Obviously the population needs to decline. This is one of
those areas where Japan has it right. The youth are simply not having kids. What about adoption?
Well, what about it.? That doesn't solve the underlying problem that the world has another mouth
to feed. Children are not miracles. They are a normal biological function, and this world does
not need anymore trailer park/housing project/ghetto miracles that are unlikely to ever have the
chance of living good/comfortable, much less extraordinary lives.
>> [_] WKZworks 05/25/14(Sun)13:09 No.2395143
>>2395140
This falls back also onto one of the much darker areas of population control, which is
war/famine/genocide. As horrible as it is, eventually the species has to do something to correct
itself. Human beings, although they have made vast efforts over the centuries to separate
themselves from the cruel laws of nature, they are still bound by natural selection. In his own
way, the recent shooter Elliot Rodger was living proof of this (albeit small proof). As an
undesirable male he was an example of natural selection at work in humanity in the form of mate
selection.
>> [_] WKZworks 05/25/14(Sun)13:10 No.2395144
>>2395143
Now, going back to the war and genocide area of thinning the herd, you see areas like Rwanda,
where there area people still there who believe the events of the mid 90's were necessary to
reduce the population of that area (granted the vast majority of those who believe this are Hutu,
but the point still stands). In Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge killed somewhere between 1.7-2.5
million out of a population of roughly 8 million; communist wealth redistribution at its finest.
WWI cost16+million WWII cost 60+million, the American Civil war cost about 620,000+ (about %2 of
the entire population) Many of the prime breeding-age men just....gone and butchered. Currently,
the Syrian civil war continues to rage on and on.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)13:10 No.2395145
>>2395140
That's all well and good except the undesirables are the ones who breed the most and it's
specifically the intelligent, well-to-do people who have stopped.
This leads to degeneration and fewer extraordinary people among the masses, not more, making
humanity as a whole worse.
>> [_] WKZworks 05/25/14(Sun)13:11 No.2395147
>>2395144
Basically what I'm saying is that there are far more crueler things than abortion. People will
have to die regardless.
>> [_] WKZworks 05/25/14(Sun)13:13 No.2395150
>>2395145
I liked the movie Idiocracy as well, and it did raise some good points.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)13:17 No.2395151
>this entire thread
>>>/pol/
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)13:39 No.2395173
>>2395013
>>implying you aren't american
/pol/ pls go
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)13:48 No.2395186
>>2395059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhJ7NmU6lJI
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)13:54 No.2395195
/f/ is not supposed to be place of debate!! please delete this post immediately!!
>> [_] Anonymous 05/25/14(Sun)13:58 No.2395203
>>2395151
I know, right? Political discussion in comments on a political post—totally out of place.
