File: Bill Nye - Creationism is Inappropriate for Children.swf-(8.49 MB, 640x360, Other)
[_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)00:50 No.2663386
The Truth.
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:00 No.2663395
I was really enjoying that. Dick.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:07 No.2663401
>>2663395
*tips fedora*
Bill Nye is a tool.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:11 No.2663407
>>2663401
did this somehow become un ironic?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:15 No.2663408
>>2663386
I always liked Nye except for this.
Shouldn't matter what anyone want to believe in. Let people believe in anything they want. No
problem letting people hear everything and decide what they want to follow when they get older.
Not every kid who hears about religion believe it when they get older.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:30 No.2663414
>>2663408
He said it's okay to believe whatever you want.
He said it's not okay to teach your children only what you believe, because you're being an
asshole by limiting their options.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:41 No.2663420
>>2663386
>We need them to suck dick
Funny because it's true.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:45 No.2663422
i recall this was posted before in a different flash
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:46 No.2663424
>>2663422
>gets to the end
ah now i get it
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)01:58 No.2663434
>>2663414
The problem is unless they're homeschooled, they will hear both. One from the parents and one
from the school. Maybe another again from sunday school if their parents sends them there.
I don't think that much are homeschooled for this to be a problem though.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)02:25 No.2663453
>>2663434
It's mostly regarding people who demand evolution to be pulled from schools.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)03:25 No.2663520
Being a creationist who believes in evolution is suffering.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)03:26 No.2663524
>>2663520
Intelligent design makes no sense though.
God seems to be playing his fiddle pretty damn arbitrarily for a grand plan.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)03:32 No.2663528
>>2663524
I like to think of the universe as one big, elaborate arrangement of dominoes.
Intelligent design is the hand that set them all up, the big bang is the first domino falling and
everything that follows is the cascade of kinetic energy flowing through the design.
Anything that happens falls within the margin of error and while not every thought and tiny
action will have significance, the broad strokes and monumental occasions will occur exactly as
they should.
Buying a cup of coffee or getting into a car accident and killing some kid aren't going to affect
the grand scheme because the grand scheme is much larger than that.
It's kind of a weird fusion between pre-destination and free will. We have the freedom to control
our own lives and actions but the overall whole of history and society is on a set path.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)03:42 No.2663536
>>2663434
a lot of christians i know DO homeschool.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:02 No.2663548
>>2663528
It just seems like you've decided that the way things must be is the point of compromise between
evidence you can't dismiss and what would make you uncomfortable. You want to believe intelligent
design played a part in the big bang but you're uncomfortable with the idea that it would mean
you lack free will, so you've found a middle point.
The assumption you've subconsciously made is that the universe behaves in a way that you're
comfortable with when a far more likely scenario is that it doesn't.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:10 No.2663555
>>2663548
I see why you may think that but truth be told I find it an uncomfortable thought. Traditional
religion holds that every action and event is a part of the grand scheme. If you fuck up and fail
a class or get your girlfriend pregnant, it's all in God's plan and everything will work out
right.
From my view, not being able to rely on some grand scheme to get you through the rough patches is
a whole lot scarier because it shifts the responsibility from some omnipotent, benevolent entity
to you with all your flaws.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:20 No.2663558
>>2663555
Maybe, but it's what frees me. Don't be a weak-ass pussy. The world belongs to you, you're what
you can make out of everything you have.
You only have one life. Don't spend it wasting time wondering if you'll regret anything.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:27 No.2663563
>>2663555
And that's what makes you a whiny little bitch. :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:37 No.2663572
>>2663536
My aunt wanted to pull her 10 and 12 year old daughters out of school to be homeschooled because
'God told her to'. Neither of the girls wanted to be pulled, nor did she have the money to be
able to freakin' pay for a private tutor (she wanted to bring in one of her church friends to
teach them), so her ex husband took her to court over that shit. Thankfully, he won, and the
girls now are able to get a real education, for whatever little that counts for in the US.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:42 No.2663574
>>2663563
It's what makes him a Hard Deterministic.
Your same statement could be said back at you for not being able to come to the realization that
you aren't in control of your life, and you just have to suck it up and understand that you have
no free will.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:44 No.2663576
There is no fate but what we make
In all seriousness, I've seriously considered taking courses in apologetics just to be better
equipped for discussions like this. I love to argue just for the sake of the argument and it
seems like apologetics would help.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:54 No.2663578
>>2663555
This is why people are prone to religious doctrine. They want to act in the present and enjoy
themselves but want to be exempt of consequences however they come. It really makes me wonder
sometimes why religious people are against contraceptives, it lets them dodge a massive bullet.
Believing in religion lets you misplace your fear for the sake of comfort. But you dont actually
fix or confront your personal problems by doing so.
My friends mom is a catholic and a hoarder. They are very poor. She buys 20 pairs of shoes she
will never wear. Their apartment is dilapidated clutter. She is very religious and begs at church
for money to make payments. God didnt stop her from getting evicted 5 times before that.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)04:55 No.2663579
>>2663574
I've already little control of my life as it is, I could give a shit whether or not I have free
will. Not a big stretch to submit to that idea if it's indeed irrefutably correct. He's still a
pussy bitch. :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)05:04 No.2663584
>>2663578
I don't know any sane person, religious or not, who thinks contraceptives are a bad idea. Don't
knock the faith: it's the neurons that are the things that aren't working in this case.
God's not a "get out of jail free card". He's not an excuse for anything, either. Christianity is
supposed to be a path to self-improvement. Unfortunately there are lot of people out there with
crap-for-brains who think they can just proclaim that they're Christian and hope this means that
they don't need to put any effort in to fix their life.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)05:11 No.2663587
>>2663574
>>2663579
I'm going to make a Pascal's Wager tier statement
Live like you're not in control and you never will be because you'll just be waiting for shit.
Live like you are, and you'll make things happen, or at least be happier than if you didn't do
jack aside shitpost on 4chan.
Besides, if you believe everything is predetermined, then why look before crossing the street? :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)05:13 No.2663589
>>2663587
Because it's predetermined that you'll look.
And if you don't look, it's predetermined that you're a fucking idiot.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)05:18 No.2663590
>>2663587
Determinism doesn't mean that you aren't in control. It means that what choices you make were
able to be forseen by anyone who knew the starting position of everything that exists at the
beginning of the universe, and not influenced by any sort of "true random" such as what people
seem to think free will to be.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)05:27 No.2663591
>>2663574
>>2663590
Ah, shit. I just contradicted myself due to terribad wording.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/20/15(Tue)05:59 No.2663600
why are americans so fucking dense?
When I was a child I was taught creationism because my infant mind wouldn't be able to understand
evolution. Once I was older I was taught in the same school we were taught the theories of
catastrophism, then lamarckism, darwinism and neo darwinism
