File: Cave Story.swf-(2.15 MB, 640x480, Game)
[_] Request inside Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)17:56 No.2631552
/r/ing that loli card game where you try to get the loli drunk.
Tried searching on swfchan to no avail.
In return here's CaveStory it's pretty great
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:00 No.2631555
Is this the entirety of the game?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:01 No.2631557
>>2631555
Yep.
Pretty awesome right?
I love this game.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:08 No.2631559
>>2631552
http://swfchan.com/18/85583/?liquor.swf
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:10 No.2631561
>>2631559
Thank you.
Why is this card game so fun?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:46 No.2631592
>Steam is selling this for $15
thanks
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:49 No.2631593
>>2631592
steam is selling the remastered version, actually, which is basically completely remade from the
ground up with double resolution sprites and a new soundtrack.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:50 No.2631594
>>2631593
wow new sprites time to shell out $15
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:52 No.2631595
>>2631594
I actually like the remastered version better. There's a lot of new and improved content.
Also, how the FUCK have you never played Cave Story, newfag?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:55 No.2631597
>>2631595
when did i say i've never played cave story
also i forget when "a lot of new and improved content" came to mean "slightly prettier sprites"
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:57 No.2631601
>>2631597
>when did i say i've never played cave story
Sorry, was referring to >>2631592
>also i forget when "a lot of new and improved content" came to mean "slightly prettier sprites"
Don't forget the new translation, bonus levels, new soundtrack and extra game modes
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)18:59 No.2631602
>>2631601
woop de doo standard features added to a free game this makes it worth 15 how?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:00 No.2631604
>>2631601
>Don't forget the new translation, bonus levels, new soundtrack and extra game modes
and none of that is worth $15 maybe a $2 expansion at best. and translations should be fucking
free that doesn't count as "new and improved content"
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:01 No.2631605
how do you play this cardgam
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:04 No.2631608
>>2631602
>>2631604
Oh, and you could always support Pixel with it because he's a really cool guy. The game is still
completely free and offered over his official site, and all over the internet.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:05 No.2631611
>>2631561
>>2631559
how do you even play this
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:08 No.2631615
>>2631604
Man, you should have seen the 3DS version.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:10 No.2631617
>>2631615
don't remind me
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:13 No.2631622
>>2631615
it must've been pretty bad
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:25 No.2631634
>>2631622
Just look at the box art.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:29 No.2631645
>>2631634
dear god that's horrifying
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:50 No.2631666
>>2631601
"New Translation" should reduce the price by $5. The fuck did they do to Balrog.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)19:59 No.2631674
>>2631594
>oh no, I gotta pay for artwork, what a greedy bunch of jewish pricks they are!
>Why should I have to pay for actual work that isn't just an image upscaled?! FUCK THAT
>>2631604
>I am a pro artiste, I work for videogames and know exactly how much it costs
>na m8, just throw those sprites in irfanview and upscale them then pixelize them, nobody will
notice.
>everything should be free because I am a poor cunt.
It is like you came straight from /v/.
Go back.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:01 No.2631681
>>2631674
>this faggot actually thinks redoing sprites warrants a whole new $15 game
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:02 No.2631683
>>2631681
>using the same tired "wah it is just sprites" argument.
You were already put in your place. It was a whole bunch more shit and a complete redo of the
entire games graphics.
It is a non-trivial task at all.
The fact that you seem to think a re-release that has been updated suddenly means it is worthless
is completely child-minded.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:07 No.2631692
>>2631683
>"put in your place"
you really have an incredibly bloated concept of how discussions work don't you
let me give you a tip: someone saying "b-but it has a new translation" doesn't count as "putting
me in my place."
also funny is how you resort to insulting me because you're too fucking stupid to come up with an
argument of your own. note: "your brain is like baby xD" does not count as an argument.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:08 No.2631697
>>2631683
fuck off shill
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:09 No.2631699
>>2631692
It's like you can't read.
Deal with it until you can read.
>>2631697
Cry harder.
I don't even care for the game. At all.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:10 No.2631700
>>2631699
you're such an epic trole xD
i'm so mad because you said i can't read xD
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:12 No.2631702
>>2631700
And now instead of actually reading, you act like a retard.
How predictable.
There is no discussion to be had because you can't read an stupidly simple post that contains a
list of things that are in it.
Come back when you can grasp that extreme complexity.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:19 No.2631708
I know my opinion means literally fuck all but I think Steam selling a much nicer version of this
game for 15$ to support the original creator is perfectly fine solely because it's a very fun
game, and while it being free is absolutely great (and as people said you can still easily find
for free all over the internet) it's not BAD to support the person who created it. In return you
get a more refined, prettier version of the game.
If that's not your cup of tea, then just play the free version and don't bitch that you don't get
the nicer things. Them being worth 15$ or not is irrelevant in that you do it to support the guy
who created the game to begin with.
JUST MY OPINION AND I KNOW IM A FAG FOR HAVING ONE
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:25 No.2631711
>>2631708
It's like these people don't understand the concept of a free and premium / support version.
It is all fine and well that you have a free version to play.
But that doesn't invalidate a paid version that had been upgraded out the ass, new modes, new
graphics and areas.
But naw, anyone that makes you pay for games is a jew.
Just like all those poor musicians that do it as a passion and literally go nowhere and die alone
in an alley.
It isn't illegal or immoral to want to make money off your passion.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:27 No.2631712
>>2631702
it's like you actually think you're some enlightened fucking genius holy shit are you conceited
or what
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:28 No.2631713
>>2631712
Hardly.
But at least I can read a simple post.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:29 No.2631715
>>2631712
To be fair, your arguments haven't been all that fantastic either.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:30 No.2631717
>>2631713
no your diction is fucking screaming it. not to mention how you assume anyone who disagrees with
you is illiterate. tip: i read your shitty list and i still think you're a fucking moron.
>>2631715
i'll give you that one
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:31 No.2631719
>>2631717
Then all argument and discussion is lost on you because you are a freefag.
gb2/g/ with the rest of the freetards.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:32 No.2631720
>>2631719
>generalizing everyone who disagrees with you into a group to which they might not necessarily
belong
tip: not wanting to spend $15 on new sprites does not make someone a "freefag" :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:33 No.2631722
$15 is fine, lol are you guys poor or something? fucking poorfags.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:34 No.2631724
>>2631720
>new sprites
Again, no point in any discussion since you are brain dead.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:34 No.2631725
>>2631722
poor or not it doesn't justify the absurdly high price for what should essentially be a $2
expansion at most
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:38 No.2631727
>>2631725
>what is work
>muh freedums
>time doesn't cost money, fag! pfft!
Just stop. Seriously.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:39 No.2631728
>>2631725
>absurdly high
>$15
>expansion
The horrors of being a poor teen.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:45 No.2631731
>>2631724
>everyone who disagrees with me is brain dead! i win all of my arguments by calling the other
person stupid until they stop replying!
>>2631727
i'm not saying that i'm saying it's not worth 15 fucking dollars
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:46 No.2631732
>>2631728
absurdly is used here in a relative sense
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:48 No.2631733
Instead of arguing, how about we acknowledge the fact that Cave Story's 10-year anniversary is
this Saturday, and that Daisuke Amaya (Pixel) said that a Cave Story 2 is very likely?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:50 No.2631734
>>2631731
Why do you refuse to read a simple post?
You keep saying it is nothing but sprites, you bet your ass people are going to insult you.
Also, do you ACTUALLY have any concept of work?
I mean, actual work conditions?
It is like I am talking to a person that has never worked in their life.
Time is money, and they literally have to live a life too, you know.
You think they just get fucking money out of thin air?
This game PAYS them directly.
THIS IS THEIR JOB.
They don't have bosses, they are their bosses.
>>2631732
Just because there was a free version of something doesn't mean there can NEVER ever be something
that comes from it that has a cost.
That is stupid logic.
£15 is fucking nothing.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:56 No.2631740
>>2631734
wow you're a fucking moron. you keep harping on about how i didn't read your post like you think
you wrote the fucking anna karenina or something. and no matter how many times i repeat myself by
saying "yes i read the list but it's irrelevant" you refuse to believe that i did, indeed, read
the post to which i replied with several points.
how about this: do YOU have any concept of something called ECONOMICS? specifically, the fair
pricing of goods and services? let me tell you, whether there's "le super cool new music xD" and
"wow a whole new translation are you serious?!?!?!?!?!" included with those "incredible high res
uber artistic awesome revamped sprites" or not, the thing still is not NEARLY worth $15. again,
$2 seems reasonable to me, and that's probably even stretching it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)20:59 No.2631744
>>2631740
Reasonable to you, yes, you and you only.
You are a cheapfag and that is all you are.
People like you are why economies CRASH by trying to cut corners and "muh value for money"
excuses.
Get a job, faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:01 No.2631746
>>2631734
I'm kinda drunk so idk exactly what you fags are arguing about but if you're saying Cave Story is
now worth $15 because it got reskinned, topkek, just no. I'm an indie dev myself on more
successful games and I do pixel art more complex than Cave Story + programming, and just a reskin
of this game is not worth jacking up the price to $15 if indeed that's all they did. idk because
I haven't played the new Cave Story
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:01 No.2631747
>>2631744
>get a job, faggot
>you are a cheapfag and that is all you are
nice assumptions there friend :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:02 No.2631748
>>2631747
Correct assumptions.
>>2631746
Read harder, scum.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:03 No.2631750
>>2631748
>scum
sorry asshurt fag, I'll just shitpost harder instead
;)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:04 No.2631752
>>2631748
i'd like to see you prove that they are correct to any degree considering we've never met. you
seem like an awfully arrogant defensive prick for someone who's so enlightened about the working
world.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:08 No.2631757
>>2631752
People pay for games at $15. They pay for them a LOT at those prices.
In fact, if the major game industry in general dropped prices to even $30 areas, they'd sell
considerably more than double the games and less people would trade them in, meaning less second
hand copies, meaning more demand for primary copies.
And more people would pick games up at random outside of their usual interests since they are so
much cheaper.
$15 is fucking nothing and if you think it is a lot in GAMING, you are a child.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:08 No.2631759
>>2631611
>>2631605
You have to hold out so that she gets drunk first by picking lower cards. At first, you set aside
some cards to the right that can reduce your alcohol bar.
The cards you play get put into a stack on the side and presumably whoever has the number score
gets shit cards, or something.
I just kept playing the lowest number cards I had and she got drunk first.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:12 No.2631761
>>2631757
> if the major game industry in general dropped prices to even $30 areas, they'd sell
considerably more than double the games
Wow! I'm impressed at this thought. If what you're saying is right, then EA, Nintendo, Ubisoft,
and countless other companies who have done actual market research are all incorrect because you
think the supply of gamers who want games is infinite.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:13 No.2631762
>>2631757
ahhhhhh ohhhhhh is that it??????? wowwwwww i never thought of it like that before!!!
actually wait where have i heard this before... oh yeah you've been repeating yourself nonstop
for the past 10 posts. some bs about how $15 being a relatively small sum of money somehow
justifies the game being priced at that point. look pal, $5 is not a lot of money but i'm not
paying five fucking dollars for a water bottle. relatively low price =/= fair price.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:14 No.2631763
>>2631761
No, they are just demonizing the second hand industry instead and want the most profits in as
short a period as possible.
Gaming has always been like this. How new are you to this?
Game dev industry is still stuck in the mentality that game dev is HIGH RISK, which it isn't. Not
even slightly. The games industry is fucking huge now.
It is hardly surprising that monolithic studios cannot comprehend this simple fact.
They are only around due to the fact that they have jewed off their customers with expensive
prices. (NIntendo especially)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:17 No.2631765
>>2631762
Holy shit that argument. Are you twelve?
Gaming is and always has been an expensive hobby.
$15 is fucking nothing.
It is like equating expensive golf clubs to consoles and golf tees to games.
Honestly, at this point I'd hardly be surprised if both of you faggots paid $1 for Humble Bundle
games like the rest of the /v/tards.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:26 No.2631774
>>2631765
there's something you seem unable to get through your exceedingly thick skull, and that is that
just because other games are expensive, $15 is not necessarily a justifiable price. i'm not sure
anymore if it's me who's having trouble reading at this point. again, *just because $15 is a
small amount of money does not mean $15 is a reasonable price.*
DID YOU GET THAT? RELATIVELY LOW PRICES ARE NOT NECESSARILY FAIR PRICES.
LET ME GIVE A FEW MORE EXAMPLES TO DEMONSTRATE THIS VERY SIMPLE POINT.
$5 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO PRICE APPLES AT $5 AN
APPLE.
$10 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR A COMPANY TO SELL
CHEWING GUM FOR $10.
$15 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR A SHITTY GAME RESKIN TO
BE PRICED AT $15.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:29 No.2631778
>>2631774
$15 is a perfectly reasonable price for games, though.
Games don't grow on fucking trees. They take annoyingly painful amounts of effort to produce.
Even shitty gamemaker games.
Great argument, if that is all you had, then just, lel.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:33 No.2631783
>>2631746
> I'm an indie dev myself
Post pictures of your shit game so we can laugh at it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:33 No.2631784
>>2631778
here is perhaps the main problem. $15 may be a perfectly reasonable price for "games." "games" in
general, "games" as a concept, sure, $15 is great. "games" are fucking expensive! gta v, i'd kill
to see that released for $15.
the problem is that we are not talking about "games." we are talking about "this shitty reskin."
which is an entirely different story. i am aware that games do not grow on trees. i agree that
developers deserve compensation for their work. $15 is way too much for this worthless cumstain
of a "game." this is all i am saying.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:35 No.2631785
>>2631784
It's worth whatever someone pays for it, and people pay for it. They don't give a shit what some
autist on /f/ who probably isn't going to buy it regardless says.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:36 No.2631786
>>2631784
You seem to be implying that reskins don't cost money.
What, do you think a reskin is like a remastered film?
No, a videogame reskin would be like them reshooting the entire film again on a better format /
camera / FPS rate / screen ratio.
Work is still work. Reskin or new game entirely.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:39 No.2631789
>>2631786
>you seem to be implying that reskins don't cost money.
actually no. please reread this section VERY CAREFULLY and maybe you'll be able to find the part
where i secretly implied that i do indeed understand that reskins cost money to produce. WARNING:
this is not easy to find, i will not be surprised if you do not see it. look carefully.
"i am aware that games do not grow on trees. i agree that developers deserve compensation for
their work. $15 is way too much for this worthless cumstain of a "game." this is all i am saying."
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:42 No.2631791
>>2631785
>it's worth whatever someone pays for it
so if there's a monopoly on a product and the company can therefore get away with charging
ridiculously high prices for it, it's actually worth that amount? something seems a little bit
wrong with your statement...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:43 No.2631792
>>2631789
Again, you do not understand how game development actually works.
Let me guess, you also think day1 DLC is "greedy jewish faggotry!"
I bet you think they all develop that DLC as they are making the game as well, amiright?
Protip since I already know what you will say, all that DLC, well, majority of it, there are shit
developers, let's not kid ourselves here, most of that DLC is made exactly as the game has been
finished, went through the usual quality testing, then gets sent to be burned and packaged.
That is a HUGE period of time where devs are doing fucking nothing.
>>2631791
>gaming is a monopoly.
Now I've heard it all.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:43 No.2631793
>>2631791
There's not a monopoly here, quit the false equivalency.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:45 No.2631795
>>2631791
>monopoly
>in gaming
Or, let me use the other side of your already confusing post
>monopoly
>on a product only that company sells
>competing against others different products
Pfft. It is retarded both ways you look at it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:45 No.2631796
>>2631792
>>2631793
>gaming is a monopoly
congratulations, that is precisely not what i said.
thank you for the crash course in game development by the way. the piece of shit still isn't
worth $15 though. sorry ;)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:46 No.2631797
>>2631795
>monopoly in gaming
again, not what i said.
>competing against others different products
i don't believe i said that either.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:46 No.2631798
>>2631796
It's worth whatever people pay for it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:46 No.2631800
>>2631796
see >>2631795
Your other argument is even worse.
>>2631797
Then what the fuck is your hilariously confusing argument?
There has been 3 mentioned already.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:49 No.2631804
>>2631798
i already responded to that. think of something original or find another way to jack off to your
own ego.
>>2631800
the argument is simply that just because some people will pay a high price for a product because
they really want it and they don't see any alternatives, the product isn't necessarily worth that
amount.
look, if i own a supermarket where i charge you $5 to buy a single apple and 10 people pay that
price, that doesn't necessarily mean that $5 is the value of the apple. if i lowered the price to
$2.50 maybe 20 people would buy it. and so on.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:50 No.2631805
>>2631804
Too bad, the market defines the price.
$15 is acceptable.
Deal.
With.
It.
Lurk more at econ 101, faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:51 No.2631806
>>2631805
>$15 is acceptable
nice unsubstantiated claim you've got there
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:51 No.2631807
>>2631804
>that doesn't necessarily mean that $5 is the value of the apple
Sure it is. All value is is what someone will pay for it. If i could buy said apple and then sell
it to someone else for $5, then who are you to tell me the apple's not worth $5? People are
paying for it. That is how the value of an item is decided.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:53 No.2631810
>>2631807
no because if more people would buy it at a lower price then maybe it's not worth so much.
to give a more extreme example, if i charged $100 for an apple and 1 person bought it, and then i
charged $1 for one apple and 300 people bought it, then the apple is more fairly priced lower.
just because it's possible for it to sell to a small amount of people at higher prices doesn't
mean that its value is all the way up there. i bet you there's some retard who'd pay $1000 for a
single apple.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:55 No.2631813
>>2631806
Oh? Clearly the market is fine with $15 games.
Last I checked games were selling like crazy on Steam.
Meanwhile expensive games sitting up there at $60, barely anyone buys them these days and chooses
to go to the 2nd hand market, which is massively larger than it should be.
The market already decided those games, for the majority, weren't worth the price.
>>2631810
See the example I typed above.
You already aren't the target market for games.
Sorry, you ain't getting your $2 games. Cheapo.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/16/14(Tue)21:57 No.2631817
>>2631810
I think the amount of people who would buy the game if it was sold for $5 but not if it was sold
for $15 isn't enough that more money would be made charging a lower price.
