File: if you are in a shell.swf-(9.83 MB, 640x360, Other)
[_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:01 No.2642860
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:29 No.2642878
why you gotta make me feel right now
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:34 No.2642881
>>2642860
Pretentious hipster trash.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:37 No.2642885
harry is a gaybo
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:41 No.2642888
I can't even begin to express how this makes me feel.
Fuck, I'm crying.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:42 No.2642889
the karate finger painting is stupid and doesnt match the "im so shy no one likes me" thing goin
on here
i mean what the hell harry just because you were shy and did theater doesnt mean you need to be
some asian stereotype
this "inspirational" flash makes no sense
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:42 No.2642890
>>2642881
I'm not into 'performance art' myself, but the words ARE meaningful.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:45 No.2642893
what a fucking mess and waste of paint
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:49 No.2642899
>>2642890
Sure the words are nice, but there's a reason why people don't usually dance to speeches.
Dancing is movement that matches a song. This is a seizure masquerading as "deep" art.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:57 No.2642907
The narrator of Sad Cat/Dog Diaries...
I kept waiting for it to get weird, but I was left disappointed.
It was still kind of funny they used the line "out or in"
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)00:58 No.2642908
>>2642907
I still can't take this seriously because of that
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:02 No.2642911
>>2642890
this>>2642899
its only deep if every piece of it makes sense and has meaning
if harry kept doing his karate crap and at the end it shows us a top down view of some kind of
shell / egg
that would have been amazing and the whole speech would have made sense
no this is just random asian crazy with words thrown in
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:06 No.2642913
>>2642911
the different colors are different feelings
the tapestry at the end is full of colors compared to the beginning where it is blank
toke up more man
>not a robot
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:07 No.2642914
>>2642899
>>2642911
I think I see your points.
It's unfortunate that this will probably continue to be a thing.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:08 No.2642915
>>2642913
Symbolism you have to explain is symbolism that's failed its purpose.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:09 No.2642916
>>2642860
I'm not in a shell. I'm in a glass cage of emotion.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:10 No.2642918
>>2642899
>>2642911
I'm not into performance art, but if this is the way that this guy is able to express himself
then I'm not going to deride his decision to do so. It's not "karate" anything, it's just
interpretive dance, which is enjoyable for a vanishingly small group of people.
The fact that Zefrank's narration has to do with anxieties and shyness, and your reaction to the
choreographic accompaniment is to disregard it as either pretension or incompetence indicates how
little of the message you decided to accept as important.
>> [_] r9kfaggot 12/30/14(Tue)01:15 No.2642927
its amusing that some people might find any of this deep or wise.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:16 No.2642929
that stills looks like it would be fun as fuck to do
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:18 No.2642930
>>2642918
You purport that the message has any value as the basis of your critique. What you seek to
establish you claim as already true. This is commonly, but incorrectly known, as begging the
question.
I humbly pray you rape yourself to death with a fish hook.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:19 No.2642931
>>2642918
im not saying the message isnt important at all
im saying a piece needs to work together as a whole and meld seamlessly whether it all comes
together and makes sense later on or it melds together throughout the entire piece
if people did the waltz at some Metallica concert that doesnt work
if a moshpit formed at a country hoedown that doesnt work
like i said if at the end it did a top down view of some encasement/shell/egg whatever something
that represents shyness and insecurity that would have amazed me and the whole dance would have
made sense
but the whole dance was chaotic which speaks to me he isnt afraid and has a wild character
unafraid of doing things that are considered "outside of the box" which is vastly opposite of
what the speech is talking about
it doesnt make sense and yea this guy >>2642915
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:19 No.2642932
>>2642927
whoops, didn't mean to fill out the name.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:26 No.2642941
>>2642918
>>enjoyable for a vanishingly small group of people
Sometimes, things are popular because they're actually pretty good. The corollary is also true:
sometimes things aren't popular because they're not really good ideas.
>>The fact that Zefrank's narration has to do with anxieties and shyness, and your reaction to
the choreographic accompaniment is to disregard it as either pretension or incompetence indicates
how little of the message you decided to accept as important.
You're goddamn right I didn't accept it as important, that's my opinion: I don't think there is
any deeper meaning.
It doesn't resonate. The main reason why is because it lacks any kind of catharsis. It has a nice
buildup, but it doesn't really truly provide the viewer with any kind of soul-changing epiphany.
It starts a nice thing with the "you are not alone" theme, but it doesn't wrap it up. Instead, we
get a nice postcoitus afterglow shot and are left to draw interpretations.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:35 No.2642946
>>2642881
>>2642889
>>2642893
>>2642899
>>2642911
>>2642915
>>2642927
>>2642931
I'll have to agree with these faggots. Although the video has a nice anecdotal message and is
sure to appeal to those whom are insecure with their shyness, the actions didn't work out a
smoothly as they should have. The whole time I was watching this I had consciously justify the
dance as part of the whole message, rather than being able to enjoy both the visual and audible
aspects simultaneously. A good example of an inspirational video is the "famous failures" shit we
all saw more than half a decade ago. Don't get me wrong -- the dance is great, it just felt too
out of sync with the speaker.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:36 No.2642950
meh
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:37 No.2642951
>>2642899
The part where the guy talks about the shell matches quite well with the guy's dance. Also the
part where he talks about releasing pent up energies.
When he talks about the tree growing, the dancer covers himself in paint, similar to tree bark.
Could go on, you fail to see the beauty in this peice because you give yourself this
hyper-critical persona. Chill out faggot and enjoy the pretty colors, nice words and sharp body
movement.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:41 No.2642956
>>2642881
>>2642927
Applies to you faggots as well.
>>2642951
Not saying you should enjoy the thing, but I think being so critical of everything is indicative
of some other underlying issues. Seriously.. you guys are fucking retarded if you enjoy shit like
"Pa pa pa parapa... HEESSSS MY BABY" and talk down to refined and aesthetic work like that. Or
youre trying too hard, just go fuck yourself and laugh at yourself a bit weaboo cunts.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:46 No.2642961
Aight, did some faggot in the thread post >>2642936 as a response?
Because you are absolutely correct.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:49 No.2642966
>>2642899
>>2642951
Actually I'll go on.
"Tried to reach out" Dancer reaches his arm out
"Called names designed to cause maximum damage" Dancer takes massive blow to the stomach and
levitates.
"saying wrong words" Spews out red paint
"Way out or in" Dancer hands, look at them
you're retarded if you think it was possible for the dance move to systematically match the
speech. Also having a shell painted would have been cool but he's not a fn painter, just painting
a shell on such a massive canvas with that much paint without the restrictions of the dance
routine would be complicated.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:50 No.2642969
>>2642915
Only have to explain it because you're too dumb to grasp it. Not meant for every other average Joe
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:51 No.2642970
>>2642941
>we get a nice postcoitus afterglow shot and are left to draw interpretations.
>mfw
top kek.
but yeah, it does lack at the end. i myself was pretty sure it was gonna form an image of sorts
but no, it's just a dude lying in ink. and he wasn't even moving or picking/mixing colors in
synch with the narration to convey some sort of meaning like the colors/ink are emotions, it was
just pure unrelated nonsense. it's as if they took a random video, muted it and put the narration
on top. they could have put the cheeki breeki guys and it would have been the same.
in fact, requesting version of this with cheeki breeki or "boy next door".
>this is jackie, he was shy, then he met the world of gay porn and is now a gay dom making his
male friends' deep dark fantasies come true everyday.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:54 No.2642975
>>2642860
zefrank isn't captivating or entertaining as a content creator anymore. someone said he went to
buzzfeed, which is probably why his new stuff is garbage.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)01:56 No.2642977
>>2642975
He did.
:(
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:01 No.2642984
>>2642956
Sure, but I'd say it takes a wholly different level of skill to not just blindly accept and
interpret art, but to critique it and deconstruct its flaws.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:02 No.2642987
>>2642970
>
>>2642966
>>2642951
Insensitive idiots everywhere.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:05 No.2642989
>>2642984
You didn't deconstruct shit m8.
>Hurrr DURR the dance moves don't match with the speech
Yes they do, a lot of parts do, they can't all match, else it would be theater and not a dance
routine.
>Errrr, I'm disappoint, the dancer is not a PAINTER as well.
It's actually very easy to point out the negatives. Even easier to make them up.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:12 No.2642997
>>2642989
That wasn't even me, and you took like the flimsiest two arguments in the whole thread to prove
how right you were. Rhetorical bluster aside, why is it so difficult to accept that maybe some
people don't think this is praiseworthy art?
OP, if you're still here, good going. Did you really expect the thread to become this long?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:18 No.2643002
>>2642989
>else it would be theater and not a dance routine.
the narrator himself said the dude "found" theater and used it to get out of his "shell", so not
only would there be no problem with him doing a theater routine instead of a dance, it would have
tied better with the narrative, thus tying everything together as a whole.
i'm sorry anon but i think >>2642915 is right. i mean you had to fucking describe individual
passages.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:18 No.2643003
>>2642997
Didn't even say it was praiseworthy. But that the critics were retards seeking for some type of
internet critique credit. It has some flaws, namely the ending could have been a bit more
dramatic or at least be shot from "bird's eye" view. But to say that it's pretentious pointless
pseudo art and that the dancing and the speech don't match together is pretty fucking retarded.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:22 No.2643008
>>2643002
I didn't have to, a kid could have picked up on it quite easily. I did it on the account that the
posters criticizing it had intelligence inferior to that of a kid and needed a little help.
And I really can't picture how a theatrical piece would have tied in better with the speech quite
frankly. Maybe that's because I'm not a flipping producer, but maybe you have what it takes for
that, how bout you take it for a spin and make a theatrical version tuned to the speech.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:25 No.2643015
>>2643008
>>how bout you take it for a spin and make a theatrical version tuned to the speech.
Ahh, the classical argument. If you're so able to spot the flaws, why don't YOU make something?
The same reason why gourmands aren't necessarily good cooks. Or why Roger Ebert can't make a good
film.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:28 No.2643018
>>2643015
>Or why Roger Ebert can't make a good film.
Good point, dead people aren't known for their cinematography.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:31 No.2643022
>>2643015
All I'm saying is enjoy it for what it is (or don't, but don't make baseless critics), don't
pretend like you think it could be better at being something else if you cant even begin to
conceive how that something else would go.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:42 No.2643029
>>2643003
>>2643008
I really wonder why you're getting so defensive. Nobody's seeking credit here. People are just
calling out the bullshit as they see it.
Why're you getting so upset that someone out there thinks what you like isn't really amazing shit?
captcha: make theatrs
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)02:47 No.2643032
liberal garbage
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)03:16 No.2643055
>>2642860
That voice sounds like teddy bear surgery guy. Now I wanna watch that.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)03:18 No.2643057
I'm in no way similar to "harry" but this is really cool.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)03:27 No.2643059
Is it weird that, if i were capable of it, seeing this makes me feel more like permanently
retreating into a shell? Not because its bad, but because it makes me more aware of it?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)03:36 No.2643069
>>2643059
It's quite normal, actually. The cycle of shame is a horrible thing.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/30/14(Tue)04:07 No.2643088
>>2643057
all he did was throw paint around
