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[_] so many flashes with 0 replies Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)17:28 No.2671015
I wish I could see how many people actually browse /f/ right now
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)17:34 No.2671019
Voyager is probably the biggest forever alone in our known piece of universe.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)17:50 No.2671047
>>2671015
Posters tend to flock to whichever flashes already have the most replies.
Thus flashes with no replies tend to keep on having no replies.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)17:58 No.2671054
>>2671047
It's Anon's first law of /f/lash!
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:00 No.2671057
>>2671054
the second must be ignore all the 20 flashes that are at the bottom of the list
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:18 No.2671079
>>2671057
I regularly click through all of them
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:24 No.2671087
>>2671079
you must be like the only one beside me
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:26 No.2671089
>>2671087
We're brothers... only closer <3
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:26 No.2671090
>>2671079
>>2671087
I watch most flashes that are posted unless I already know what it is, I just rarely comment on
them
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:40 No.2671107
>>2671019
Voyager still gets more phone calls than I do.
>tfw
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:42 No.2671112
>>2671107
>Voyager, give me your status report
>Everything's optimal, sir
>kthxbye
tfw
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)18:53 No.2671122
>>2671015
lo, this the way it always was
There's only one page, you click through all flashes, sometimes comment on one, THE END
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:05 No.2671138
You guys know this song is actually on the vinyl record aboard the voyager, right?
I know it's the point of the flash, but I don't think it is common knowledge.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:07 No.2671140
>>2671019
What about Pioneer 10 and 11?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:08 No.2671142
>>2671138
No, I didn't know that! I thought I was pretty well versed in this stuff, but I didn't realize
I'd actually heard one of the songs on the golden record!
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:08 No.2671144
>>2671138
yeah it was discussed in previous threads
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record
but I still think no one would be able to play it with the instructions they've put there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record#mediaviewer/File:The_Sounds_of_Ea
rth_Record_Cover_-_GPN-2000-001978.jpg
like seriously what the fuck?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:16 No.2671148
>>2671144
The idea was that whoever discovers it (very unlikely to ever happen, of course) would take it to
their civilization's smartest scientists to figure out what it means. Obviously the average
person on earth wouldn't be able to understand the pulsar map (the starburst looking thing), and
yet human scientists were smart enough to devise it.
Dude just watch Contact, actually.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:18 No.2671151
>>2671144
You have to keep in mind that it's in binary.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:21 No.2671154
>>2671144
they did a lot of drugs in the 1970s.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:24 No.2671160
>>2671154
Fucking Carl Sagan actually recorded his wife's "brain waves" while she was thinking about like,
world peace and shit, and then put that recording on the record. Just in case the aliums had mind
reading technology.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:27 No.2671164
>>2671148
>>2671151
>>2671154
I mean there is some shit about atoms
let me search it up
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/images/VgrCover.jpg
jesus fucking christ like how anyone is supposed to know that the bottom left two circles are
supposed to be hydrogen atoms
and right to the left is supposed to be a position of our sun
how the fuck are they supposed to know what is what?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:28 No.2671166
>>2671164
*bottom right those two circles
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:33 No.2671169
>>2671138
didn't know
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:34 No.2671170
>>2671164
it's all bullshit. Dont stress. This is what scientists really do all day: sit around, get high
and make shit up. Dont even get me started on black holes and dark matters
>oh man theres like, al lthis stuff out there and its noting but its something man but we will
never see it cuz its like dark man. Look i made a math problem that proves it
>fo sho muh nigga
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:34 No.2671171
>>2671148
>>2671144
>>2671138
shoulda just takin a fucking mp3 player or a cd player or whatever the fuck they had a thousand
years ago when this shit was launched and just taped it to the side of the space car.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:34 No.2671172
>>2671164
It's pretty clear to me that the circles are hydrogen atoms. The Pulsar map would be a bigger
riddle, but it's actually a very elegant solution. Once you figure out the hydrogen atom, you
know that tic marks are notation for a unit of time, so you'd figure that the tic marks in the
pulsar map are telling you something about short period oscillations of SOMETHING. Since this
thing came from space, you'd say, "hmm, what space things have periods of variation of some
observable quantity this short?" and you'd figure it's pulars, because that's what pulsar means.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:35 No.2671173
>>2671172 (Continued)
I get that this is probably pretty opaque to most people, but most people aren't astrophysicists.
Carl Sagan hoped that inquisitiveness etc. was a universal virtue of intelligent beings, and that
any intelligence that eventually discovered a human artifact would put just as much effort into
understanding it as he knew we would, if we discovered an alien artifact. As such, he was pretty
confident that the aliens would bring the Golden Record (or the Pioneer Plaque, which also has
this pulsar map) to their local version of astrophysicists, and that they would be able to figure
it out. I mean, what physicist doesn't know a hydrogen atom when she sees one?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:37 No.2671174
>>2671170
This is quite likely the most retarded thing I've ever read on the internet, good show sir. I
hope for the sake of you and everyone who comes into contact with you that this post is hyperbole.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:37 No.2671175
>>2671015
>always
you wish you see how many, but you dont wish what people browse /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:39 No.2671176
>>2671170
They do the math problem first. When the answer comes out looking "wrong," but everything about
what they did is right, they show it to their friends and say "hey, why isn't this right?" And
their friends say "hmm, yeah, I got that too... What's up with that?" So they take it to an
experimentalist or an observer and say "hey, can you check, does this really happen?" and the
observer says "oh, I saw something funny the other day! Maybe this has something to do with it!"
And once they've all agreed that some crazy math problem is actually empirically happening in the
real world, they go home and try to think about what it means. "Dark Matter" for instance is just
called that because they don't know what it is. Some people went home and thought "maybe it's
just little moons and planets floating around in the dark, so that's why we can't see it," and
other thought "maybe it's black holes" or "maybe it's an entirely new type of matter!"
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:42 No.2671178
>>2671019
TFW online
status no gf
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:42 No.2671180
>>2671172
maybe for someone who has seen those circles before as hydrogen
the thing is how can we be so sure they will recognize it as hydrogen atom
as far as I know they may have totally different system or have none whatsoever
I don't even know how we managed to learn different languages and are able to translate them
>inb4 I don't know therefore no one knows
I know how it sounds but that's not what I mean
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)19:58 No.2671204
>>2671174
>he believes in a gravity based model of the universe rather than the electric universe theory
the reason we dont go the moon anymore is because we actually dont know shit about space and only
got really lucky with our past attempts. Everyone pretends that the apllo missions and space
shuttle explosions were horrible unpredictable tragedies but they were actually statistical
certainties. Every time a manned mission was sent up it was basically a huge dice roll to see if
things would go horribly wrong or not, and eventually we ran out of luck.
Hell, when the germans were first dreaming of space rockets they didnt even know about radiaiton
in space. The nazi scientists that the usa brought over after the war had this really ambitious
project to send people to mars and had they actually been given the ok, every single astronaut
would have died.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:01 No.2671209
>>2671180
The thing is, what you get taught in school about how 'atoms' look, with their little circling
electrons, is entirely theoretical. Nobody has actually seen that before. And if you think about
it critically, there's no way that everything around you is actually made up of uniformed
synchronized particals moving in the same orderly prediction.
Think about people. People are all different. Now go down the list of life forms. All dogs are
different. All reptiles are different, all insects are varied and different. Bacteria are varied
and different. What kind of sane person would reason that the base elements would be the same?
There's no evidence either way. It's just an assumption we are taught to make.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:05 No.2671217
>>2671209
that's what I'm trying to think about
to see things outside of the box
like 'what would aliens think about this' or 'what does my dog think when I'm trying to teach him
how to fucking sit'
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:09 No.2671223
I like this flash but I wish the background wouldn't had those galaxies being observables next to
tiny fucking stars. It just looks off.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:15 No.2671232
>this thread
this is why I still browse /f/ despite all the weeb shit that gets posted here
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:17 No.2671237
>>2671057
really? I usualy start with the red ones so i can be sure i am not losing anything (even
screamers or where da hood at)
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:21 No.2671245
>>2671237
I'm speaking of my experience because when I bump a flash from the bottom it most of the times
gets more attention
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:23 No.2671247
>>2671144
Eh, I think the idea was that if it was picked up, it'd be picked up by an alien spacecraft
meaning they'd be advanced enough to decipher it. Not like it'd survive crashing into a planet in
the abysmally small chance that such a collision ever occurred, and said planet had life, and
said life was even sentient.
Of course, it all assumes that the aliens would be even remotely similar to humans in how we
process information. They try to avoid cultural symbols like arrows which are indecipherable on
their own, but even without those it can still be indecipherable if the aliens have never even
used 2D representations of data like that before.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:25 No.2671248
>>2671245
Yeah, its really sad when i find some really good stuff, but nobody comented on that
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:31 No.2671258
>>2671247
I do think any spacefaring alien species would be able to interpret the contents of the disc
fairly easily, though. It's similar to breaking encryption, you try a bunch of different
algorithms until the seemingly random data gives an obviously patterned output. The images on the
disc would then verify the algorithm is correct.
Of course, it's doubtful the images and songs contained in it would be meaningful to aliens.
There's no evolutionary requirement for sight or hearing, especially not sight and hearing
identical to that of humans. Would a 2 dimensional image mean anything to something like a purely
mechanical species that observes the universe through broad spectrum 3D sensors positioned over
large areas of space?
The pulsar map to earth is probably the most useful information on the thing, honestly.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:32 No.2671259
>>2671232
This. 10/10 thread.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:57 No.2671294
I just wanted to say that I always come here when high and /f/ never disappoints to entertain me.
I love this place, it's so essentially different to the rest of the boards. The special snowflake
of 4chan.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)20:58 No.2671299
>>2671047
Wow it's just like your average anon and friends.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:00 No.2671300
>>2671112
But.
Everything ISNT optimal.
Voyager is old.
He doesnt have much time left.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:03 No.2671305
>>2671300
>>Voyager, give me your status report
>>I'm- I'm dying Dave
>>Well there's not much I can do from here isn't it?
He knew what he was getting into.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:04 No.2671306
must... post... in big... thread...
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:06 No.2671307
>>2671305
>>Tell my wife I love her very much
>>SHE KNOWS
>> [_] Javo 01/27/15(Tue)21:08 No.2671311
>>2671306
See
>>2671047 and
>>2671299
>>2671259
Ditto that. While normally 10/10 is used for stuff that really makes you kek, this is an actual
decently intellectual conversation.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:09 No.2671312
I usually look through all the flashes on /f/ at least once per day, and have a bunch of flashes
spread out over several computers that i use and used to use, but i rarely post any ;-;
How do you guys know what to post?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:10 No.2671315
obligatory big-thread post
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:11 No.2671318
>>2671311
it's not like i wrote that "must post in big thread" joke because of those posts in the first
place or anything
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:12 No.2671320
>>2671015
Man, voyager will continue traveling space for the longest time. This object will never return to
earth. Ever.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:12 No.2671321
>>2671312
>How do you guys know what to post?
just post whatever you want, it's not like we calculate for hours before coming up with the
perfect flash to post in that moment in time
>> [_] Javo 01/27/15(Tue)21:13 No.2671323
>>2671318
It's not every person here always reads every other post before posting and always assumes others
do the same.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:13 No.2671324
>>2671320
>This object will never return to earth. Ever.
You don't know that, man. In 1000 or 10,000 years when we have unimaginably fast spaceships,
somebody might chase it down one day.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:14 No.2671325
>>2671312
>How do you know what to post
>he doesn't have access to the /f/ hivemind
top fucking bong
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:16 No.2671327
>>2671307
I just realized I would very much enjoy a version of this flash with Space Oddity as the music.
Complete song or at least the melody.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:17 No.2671329
>>2671323
i have no words for this ignorance. i suggest you change what you put in the name field.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:19 No.2671332
>>2671312
You seriously haven't realized yet that everybody posts whatever random shit they want at any
time?
My only consideration is to post something that I haven't seen posted in a while, just so it
doesn't get stale you know.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:20 No.2671333
>>2671015
>so many flashes with 0 replies
currently 7 threads with 0 replies
22 threads with 1 or more replies
...6 of which even has more than 10 replies
>mfw
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:29 No.2671348
>>2671333
yfw his post was 4 hours ago
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:31 No.2671353
Here's the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8AuYmID4wc
The song is "Dark Was The Night, Cold Was The Ground" by '20s bluesman Blind Willie Johnson.
His stepmother blinded him when he was seven by throwing lye in is his eyes after his father had
beat her for being with another man. He died, penniless, of pneumonia after sleeping bundled in
wet newspapers in the ruins of his house that burned down.
But his music has left the solar system.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/15(Tue)21:33 No.2671354
>>2671348
no shit sherlock, what tipped you off? i would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for your
meddling. here i was considering the present but your immense genius had to come along and
enlighten me that OP was living in a time vastly different from our own, a time where 0 reply
threads roamed freely within the boards and tumbleweed blew freely in nearly all threads as far
as the eye could see.
