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Original location: http://boards.4chan.org/f/thread/2700768 Recognized format: Yes, thread post count is 59. Discovered flash files: 1 File: genesis.swf-(959 KB, 800x450, Game) [_] all alone Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:15 No.2700768 use arrow keys Marked for deletion (old). >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:26 No.2700769 am i missing something here? >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:28 No.2700770 >>2700769 did you finish it? >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:34 No.2700776 eat fruit pink and you eat more fruits reproduce and pink does not move children eat lots things eat children and warm on the pink's remains you eat the children eaters you eat dots until you grow large god ends you then forgives you lots of meaning and subtext available that i feel has been probably presented before and in a more moving way. The whole thing is very professional and valuable but i just feel bored by it. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:35 No.2700777 >>2700776 i liked it, it was cool >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:35 No.2700778 That was cool! >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)01:36 No.2700779 I do like it though >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:09 No.2700797 I hate pretentious bullshit like this. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:26 No.2700813 >>2700797 In what way was it pretentious? >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:30 No.2700816 >>2700813 It presents itself as having deep meaning when it has no real gameplay, no instructions, no actual story, and any sort of "moral" implications are completely defunct because literally the only other option is to just not play the game at all. In fact, some levels basically do it for you. You can just sit there and then grab the one thing that finally pops up at the end. The voice effect is the only cool thing about it, the rest is just really bland, clearly trying to be artistic, but it doesn't have any actual meaning to it, just pretend meaning. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:38 No.2700820 >>2700816 While I initially disagreed with you, I understand where you're coming from. It really was just moving around and collecting little grey squares until you collect the last black square. And regarding the storyline, I only understood that it was based on the book of Genesis by its title, and not by the actual game. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed it. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:40 No.2700822 >>2700768 >fruit of knowledge Into the trash with Penn&Teller. It was specific knowledge. One that would bring forth evil. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:53 No.2700829 >>2700776 >The whole thing is very professional and valuable It's shit. It's literally just squares on a white background. It's pretentious, unimaginative, and objectively shitty, not unlike those artists who paint a single line on a canvas and try and call it "art". >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)02:56 No.2700832 >>2700829 y u mad >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:01 No.2700834 >>2700832 Why wouldn't he be? It's so tiring to see half baked, poorly made 'games' that pretend they have some deep message when they are nothing more then a terrible time waster or show the person has no real message, either because they create something out of nothing or they don't understand their own message they wanna get across. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:07 No.2700840 2deep4you crap. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:14 No.2700843 >>2700820 once you realize that 2deep4u pixel art games just like this have been made a million times over, they start to become retarded real fast. pretentious, psuedo-philosophical square games need to die in a fire >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:19 No.2700848 >another_shitty_art_game.swf >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:21 No.2700851 >>2700816 I dont think that "gameplay", instructions, or a "story" are necessary for depth. And isn't it a moral conundrum to act and have consequences or to not act? It's very basic but it's got a nice atmosphere and a cohesive metaphor, it really doesnt need anything more than that >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:23 No.2700854 >>2700843 >Anything I disagree with must be banned! Waaaaaahhh! >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:24 No.2700855 >>2700851 yeah and it was pretty cool the first time someone had done it. even the 10th time was probably allright. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:30 No.2700862 HURR IT'S NOT A GAME CUZ DER AREN'T GUNS IN IT CS:GO OR GTFO >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:31 No.2700863 >>2700855 Well when you say tht it's been done a ton, it's not like it's the same subject material. Like OK, it's basic arrowkeys/WASD movement and it's basically just point A to point B movement, but it's usually different subject matters right? Sure maybe "pretentious" to some, but i've seen ones cover loneliness, depression, relationship troubles. Never seen one about creation of man/human condition. It's not groundbreaking shit here but i'd prefer a million more of these slight thematic variations on a basic, nice looking and nice feeling game than the million cookie-cutter $60 FPS bullshit that is mainstream gaming tbh. It's not like they even waste much of your time if anyone really doesn't like it >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:38 No.2700869 "I don't want to see the same thing over and over again" - People on /f/, apparently >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)03:42 No.2700871 >>2700869 this >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:01 No.2700882 >>2700871 >>2700869 Yeah, if you don't wanna see the same thing of /f/ then stop the faggots from posting those bad homo porn flashes that have the male sign in them. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:06 No.2700886 If God didn't want me to eat the fruit, he should have created a world with something to do in it. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:18 No.2700889 >>2700854 It's not about disagreement with the message for me. It's about holding the art form to a higher standard than just "let's have some squares eat some other squares with ambient music over it". It's attempting to become a deepening experience but the makers didn't really put forth all that much effort into it when you compare it to others in the genre. In light of others, this one could be seen at best average. /autism >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:18 No.2700891 >>2700882 >those bad homo porn flashes >that have the male sign in them. b-but thats /f/ culture >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:19 No.2700892 >>2700886 This. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:29 No.2700895 >>2700863 >than the million cookie-cutter $60 FPS bullshit that is mainstream gaming tbh. You realize it is 2015, right? Because you're describing a pattern in the industry that is largely dead and has been dead for a long time now. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:32 No.2700896 >god says not to eat knowledge fruit >eat it anyway ballin' >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:33 No.2700897 Either you do nothing or you impose your free will. Then God kills you for something that is inherently you, which is how he created you. This is why religion makes no fucking sense. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:34 No.2700898 >>2700869 ayy >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:52 No.2700909 >>2700882 you mean gatchimuchi and no, they are great. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)04:58 No.2700912 >be me little blue square > "I have created this world for you." >Thanks broheme, I'll try not to fuck it up. >pink bitch shows up, we eat blocks or whatever >take a lap, pink bitch comes to get me >Oh naw bitch I am not eating that shit. >I'm sitting off screen of the fruit waiting for God to come back I think if he does I can still cash in on the pink bitch's warranty and get a new one, one that isn't a total cunt bag. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:00 No.2700914 >>2700897 Or, it is your will to stay within the commandant of God. I'm just chilling off screen of the fruit. Musci is pretty cool. My free will is actually evidenced by my refusal to play by the narrative of the game and instead do what I want, which is in this case obeying God. Something I choose to do. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:08 No.2700921 >>2700914 this. no one seems to understand it. it's so simple. one simple, easy rule. "don't do this ONE THING. you can do literally anything else, just not that." everyone would rather say "but it's my free will to do what I want, so I wanna eat the fruit." literally the same argument could be used for "It's my free will to do whatever I want, and I wanna kill someone, so Ima kill someone." >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:14 No.2700924 >>2700921 I'm actually going to go further with it. Which is the actual execution of free will? Being led by the hand along the linear game, or making the choice of sitting? I say the later, because it is a choice that one makes for the self. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:15 No.2700926 >>2700924 I am at peace with the universe God has created for me. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:18 No.2700927 >>2700924 yo, at least you get it. the rest of these neckbeards would rather have a high-res, crazy graphics FPS to play. I'd rather the subtle message of free will. > don't eat the fruit (obey) and listen to chill music and get to live > or eat the fruit (disobey) and soon get killed by your mistake. > easy.jpeg >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:20 No.2700928 >>2700926 If only more would think like that. being non-complacent with what we have is all you gotta do, y'know. too many want something more/bigger than what they have, but don't realize how big what they have already is. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:21 No.2700930 >>2700895 they totally aren't coming out with Advanced Warfare or Halo 69 or Titanfall. I suppose you're right it's not as popular but it's still hella popular. the new cookie cutter fps is like borderlands 2 bullshit or farcry 4. it's still all copypaste garbage >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:22 No.2700931 >>2700927 i'm also cruising the rest of this hell pit, so it's not like i'm lacking stimulation. My little blue square self is just chilling. If the game creators failed to code a return of God segment, this can be considered game end. This is the good end. We won anon. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:24 No.2700932 >knowledge fruit people keep making this mistake it wasn't some general "fruit of knowledge", it was specifically "knowledge of good and evil". adam and eve didn't magically turn smart after eating the fruit, they simply developed a moral conscience. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:29 No.2700935 >>2700932 Which truth be told, wasn't needed before they ate the fruit. If they hadn't eaten the fruit, God would have ensured that they didn't need the knowledge, because all their actions were condoned by God and therefore good. You say that when they ate the fruit, the gained a moral conscience. The first thing that they did with that moral conscience, was regret their failure of God's command. They ate only regret. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:31 No.2700936 >>2700931 Haha good point.. it's either you disobey and lose, or obey and win. so yeah. :D >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:32 No.2700938 >>2700935 Christian-bro? I'm sensing it from your text. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:32 No.2700939 Why is everyone saying you lose at the end if you eat the fruit, you got to do a bunch of stuff and then you get forgiven >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:35 No.2700941 >>2700939 true. but I think it's more of a "you disobeyed, so you got punished" kind of "lose". You are right though. God forgave 'em >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:38 No.2700943 >>2700939 "Forgiven" If I stab a guy, go to jail then get our of jail, I still stabbed the guy. It doesn't condone the stabbing. Just because reciprocal punishment was administered doesn't change the nature of the crime, the fact that it happened or in any way expunge it. God is just a total bro, so he's like "Oh fuck dude, it's cool. We can still chill." >>2700938 Raised Catholic, but I'm more into ethics than conventional Christian morality. I don't do by the book standards, which say that you should believe or do something because they have the authority to tell you. In this case it is right and just to follow God, because he has done good for you, given happiness and provided. The violation of that gift is intrinsically wrong, so I'm not going to do it. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:38 No.2700944 >>2700935 if self-aware morality is what caused a divergence from God's word, then before eating it, every action they made was in line with God, i.e. God had no influence. So when the knowledge was gained, only then were other sins possible. So not to say that humans created God, but perhaps neither could exist without the other? The Dance of consciousness and the external universe, without the universe, consciousness would not exist, and without consciousness, what could possibly observe the universe? >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:39 No.2700945 >>2700943 well not that God condoned it, but it doesn't change the fact that the Things Happened and were forgiven, isnt there a victory in that Things Happened? Is not something a victory when compared to nothing? >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:40 No.2700946 >>2700889 >In light of others, this one could be seen at best average. I have to disagree with even that. Other games that attempt to be "deep" at least put enough effort it to make graphics and gameplay that aren't "square floating around on a white background". This is just complete shit, by every single standard. No real graphics, no real gameplay, no real mechanics, no critical thinking, no excitement, and there's not even a fucking message. It's just another "durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you decide what it means", which is objectively a shit message, because it neither makes a point, nor does it make any real attempt to provoke any thought from anyone who isn't a freshman philosophy major who has never encountered a "2deep4u" newgrounds game before. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:42 No.2700949 >>2700946 > this autistic >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:45 No.2700954 What a fucking terrible game, how was I suppose to know the square was fruit, he didn't label it or anything, what a cunt. Matter of fact all I did was collect squares and turn into a big cunt while Mr. Terrorist started talking shit to me. >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:54 No.2700962 >>2700949 >tips fedora neckbeard >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:56 No.2700964 >>2700944 Your initial premise I argue is the reverse of true. You say that God had no influence, where we both know that he had ultimate agency, but was not directly inovlved in the circumstances that enabled the sin of Adam, which was the eating of the fruit by eve. It isn't the lack of the influence of God, if anything it is the influence of God that prevents you from eating the thing as often as the other fruit. It is instead the influence of the serpent that snares eve, and the influence of eve that snares you. Self aware morality doesn't come in until after eve eats the fruit, her temptation was by the snake, so she didn't need self-aware morality to eat it. >>2700945 No, because the causing of injury or things that are otherwise only harmful is not helpful or reasonable. To do only evil things would become tiresome, and this is not a wise path because the continuous action of bad things loses your stock. I'm splitting this into two posts (1/2) >> [_] Anonymous 02/26/15(Thu)05:58 No.2700968 >>2700964 So for example, let us take the idea of you only being able to do harm to a city instead of the garden. You can knock in glass, topple buildings, kill whomever you want, break whatever you want. But no one is going to fix it. Ever. After crumbling half the city to dust, after wasting it piece meal, you would look at what you have and say, "So glorious before was this city. What harm have I done to it? I must repair my domain." but you cannot, for the evil action is single step, and though forgiven, is not reparable. |
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