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[_] If you believe in God, you have a childish underdeveloped mind Anonymous 07/12/15(Sun)23:27:05
No.2843110
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>> [_] Anonymous 07/12/15(Sun)23:38:29 No.2843125
>>2843110
>bait with no replies
oh my god 4chan is evolving.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/12/15(Sun)23:42:38 No.2843126
>>2843125
>do a reply himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bix44C1EzY
>> [_] Anonymous 07/12/15(Sun)23:43:35 No.2843128
>>2843125
Nope
Matthew 10:34
34 “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth. I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to ‘set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her
mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.’
36 And ‘a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.’
37 He that loveth father or mother more than Me, is not worthy of Me. And he that loveth son or
daughter more than Me, is not worthy of Me.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/12/15(Sun)23:52:49 No.2843132
This country is full of misunderstandings about religion, and people who oppose religion. One of
the reasons for that is because religions that abuse faith are also spreading. It's an
unfortunate matter. Originally religion was something used to support emotional growth. Just like
sports players use the latest theories to train their bodies to perfection, to become emotionally
rich and feel happiness you need to use theories and morals, which is what religions are for. Our
duty is to make sure people don't become successful yet emotionally immature.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/12/15(Sun)23:58:19 No.2843137
>>2843132
>religions that abuse faith are also spreading
religions that abuse faith, are called religions. if they had facts to back up their claims, they
wouldn't need to rely on faith
>fedora intensifies
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)00:27:49 No.2843156
>>2843132
>religions that abuse faith are also spreading..
every religion abuses faith to some extent
if you actually look into the history of cultures, civilization and religion you will see that
every religion is actually just a tool used to control the general public and press upon "core
values" and other life influencing things.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)00:29:45 No.2843160
>>2843156
>if you actually look into the history of cultures,
then you're burning up valuable fapping time.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:08:50 No.2843187
GOD NOT REAL
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:12:06 No.2843190
>>2843156
>>2843137
Faith and religion are very different things. Christianity at its core is supposed to be a very
person thing, which means that by its very nature large-scale religion is a bastardization of
Christianities true construction. Having faith as a christian means to have a relationship with
God, you'll hear this in every church you'll ever go to. So apparently I'm supposed to have the
exact same relationship with God as everyone else? Yeah fuck that. I do have faith in a higher
power, but it's different than anyone I know and it is very much shaped around how I've
experienced life.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:27:25 No.2843208
>>2843125
Do ho ho ho
Don't you feel like such an idiot now?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:31:19 No.2843214
>>2843208
Well, we had to prove him wrong. Can't have him knowing what's really going on now can we?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:34:31 No.2843222
>>2843190
That's the bullshit they try to tell you to make you sleep better at night for being a part of
the problem. But of course, your faith is probably poisoning you to the point where you'll just
scoff at this post and never give it any deeper thought like you're taught. You're never gonna
see beyond the veil with the rest of us at this rate.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:39:32 No.2843226
>>2843222
I'm not poisoned against anything. I believe in evolution, I just think that evolution itself
lends to the existence of some sort of higher power. If theories about the creation of the
universe are true, and the big bang has happened before and will happen again, I think it's
totally plausible to think that maybe at one point a society or species evolved to the point
where they could beat entropy and exist past the end of the universe. You're the one who is blind
to other ideas.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:43:43 No.2843232
>>2843226
>I just think that evolution itself lends to the existence of some sort of higher power
lmao this is not how evolution works
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:44:02 No.2843233
What's created the big bang? Think carefully, for energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:46:01 No.2843236
>>2843226
Good goddamn the venom is deep in this one.
Enjoy stumbling around the dark barking at imaginary friends blindfolded, you're missing the rest
of the party though. Also deaf, since you immediately tried putting words in my mouth there. We
don't all inhale through our mouths as our method of air filtration like you, you know.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:47:26 No.2843237
>>2843233
Of course it can't but it does transfer and change form.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:50:46 No.2843239
>>2843237
Indeed it does. How is it able to even have potential energy in the first place?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:54:32 No.2843242
>>2843232
Evolution is the gradual change in functions of species due to small mutations that are more
suitable to their environment. People in Africa developed sickle cells to combat Malaria, that is
an aspect of evolution. We don't know how our way of life will change how we evolve. But okay
okay, then let's use "evolution" in a less literal way. Evolution via scientific advancement.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:56:41 No.2843244
>>2843239
Because in a nutshell stuff collided and packed with each other to make shit happen. It's like if
you take some water, rocks and sand and pack it together hard enough to make bricks or cement
when it dries. A non man made example is how clay is formed with various solvents, minerals and
rocks over a period of time.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:58:26 No.2843248
>>2843244
"Stuff" had energy in order to collide. Where did that energy come from?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)01:59:27 No.2843249
>>2843244
Because things just floating there do indeed have potential energy. Then it is transferred to
kinetic energy.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:03:46 No.2843255
>>2843248
Everything around you. It's all just potential energy.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:04:47 No.2843256
>>2843242
>People in Africa developed sickle cells to combat Malaria, that is an aspect of evolution.
Things don't develop in evolution like that. People with sickle cells just died less from
Malaria. This means that those with it lived more often and had more kids, leading to more people
with sickle cells. It's not like everyone had normal cells, and evolution consciously made them
have sickle cells to fight it. The ones with that mutation just were better adapted, and made
more people with it.
By your logic, it'd imply that it everyone got hit on the head for years they'd evolve hardhats,
rather than people with harder heads just surviving more and passing on their thick skulled genes
like the troglodytes they are.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:06:06 No.2843257
>>2843236
Sorry, tell me which party I'm missing? I love contemplating hypotheticals, whereas its seems
like you take your only solace in closing the doors to enlightenment and believing only what your
small pool of knowledge allows. No dissent, no variation. You don't need to be religious to be a
bigot, thank you for reminding me why I don't belong to the organized religion of Atheism.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:07:00 No.2843259
>>2843255
I'm not denying that. But can you imagine it's origin? Think beyond just that. It is an
indestructible circle to man's knowledge of science. It's as if it were always there. But we all
know, all things must have a beginning. Believing the big bang is a contradiction to science
because if there was nothing, there was no energy. Suddenly energy "bursts" from no where? That
defies the law that states "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed."
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:08:35 No.2843260
>>2843256
You're just jumping off my poor wording to avoid actually responding. Nice straw man. I
understand how evolution works. I went to high school.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:09:21 No.2843261
>>2843259
To be fair, things get past that all the time. There's tons of shit that breaks the laws of
physics as we know it. Even if it's small, like the electron that went some barely microscopic
bit faster than light. Or what happens inside of a black hole. And tons of other shit. We have a
lot to learn yet about the universe and all that it holds. Because there's plenty of stuff that
defy explanation of our modern understandings of it.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:10:37 No.2843263
>>2843260
It's not a strawman. I'm just pointing out a correction there, not undermining your argument.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:10:55 No.2843264
*suddenly fedora*
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:11:39 No.2843266
>>2843261
And thankfully what you said has already been stated in long ago text. Well, not bluntly but it
is something that can be concluded on.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:13:02 No.2843268
>>2843259
It's not that the energy is bursting from nowhere. It just looks like it bursted from nowhere. We
just know that energy happens to coming from really really tiny shit that we didn't know existed
until we kept digging further. First we found atoms, then we find electrons, and behind those
electrons, we find quarks.
Each layer unraveled reveals new secrets, but also new mysteries. We will truly never know
everything so we need to dig further rather than be complacent.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:14:44 No.2843269
>>2843266
I'm not saying it disproves a god. I have my own views of a god, albeit I'm far from a Christian.
I'm just saying shit gets past the laws of physics all the time. So, for all we know that law
will be shown to be bullshit years from now.
And like you said, if everything has a beginning, you get into the line of questioning like "what
made god"? Anything you could say for that like "he was just always there" could apply to the
scientific view that the universe always just was. Otherwise you get into an infinite loop of
some creator making things that then created things and so on and so forth.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:15:21 No.2843270
>>2843263
Alright, sorry. I was just trying to condense the information, but I guess I did leave some stuff
out. Anyway, I've got some buddies to hang out with, have a good evening /f/, I think I've fanned
the flames on this bait enough.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:17:27 No.2843271
>>2843257
>Another lamb to the slaughter, never to enjoy the wonders beyond the veil as reptillian master
race
stay mad at your local bogeymen "atheists"
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:19:01 No.2843273
>>2843269
Actually there's a reason he is called God. Surpasses all understanding. yes, things do get by
and squeeze past the laws of physics.
And believe it or not, the bible does have evidence of energy being created. When Jesus fed the
thousands with just a few bread and fish. Or the water being wine berry.
This reminds me, have you seen a flash or video called "Space Gnome"?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:19:08 No.2843274
>>2843271
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
You will never know true peace.
The deep ones cometh.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:21:54 No.2843275
>>2843274
>Cthulu
That's a funny way of spelling Uvhash
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:23:23 No.2843276
>>2843273
>Actually there's a reason he is called God. Surpasses all understanding. yes, things do get by
and squeeze past the laws of physics.
But that could apply to the universe as well. You can't say that god "just was" and yet the
universe couldn't be. For that you'd have to put forth substantial evidence to show why this
particular religious belief is more true than what we know scientifically.
>And believe it or not, the bible does have evidence of energy being created. When Jesus fed the
thousands with just a few bread and fish. Or the water being wine berry.
But that isn't "evidence". It's recountings that were told millenia ago. There's no way to verify
the accuracy of what they say. I can write a book and say that I too made water into wine and fed
thousands of people with a few loaves of bread and some fish. So, there has to be more than that
for it to be seen as factual.
And, nope, I've never seen Space Gnome. What is it?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:29:50 No.2843280
>>2843276
True. I know i cannot give what i experienced as fact, because personal experience doesnt justify
claims in certain cases. But what i can do is encourage those to experience it for themselves.
As for space gnome, i'll upload the flash. I saved it long ago. It used to be a video by a
youtuber but the video is no longer available. I think alot of what he says can be used for the
better.
For example, we now have thermal technology to see what our eyes cannot, and with it, people have
seen spirits.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:33:16 No.2843282
>>2843276
It's uploaded. Also, i really dont agree with his name calling XD
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:36:20 No.2843286
>>2843276
Also, i dont cling to this kinda thing. He says alot of things i agree with, but also, alot of
things i dont agree with.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:37:52 No.2843288
>>2843269
God created the Universe, which means that he could existed in a place that did not necessarily
abide by the rules of the Universe.
When you consider this, his existence makes more sense since he doesn't necessarily have to
follow our universal laws.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:38:59 No.2843289
>>2843288
He is within the Spirit realm, thats more reality than this.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:41:40 No.2843291
>>2843286
Are you sure this wasn't a troll? I mean, he says stuff like science is shit because we haven't
figured it all out yet. But how does that matter? We're not omnipotent. It's gotten us pretty far
by building up on we we know to discover more. That doesn't invalidate science at all. It just
means we don't know everything yet.
>>2843288
And how can you prove that? A million other religions also say similar things. What makes that
view of god true and the others not true? Yeah, he COULD exist in another place, but then where
did that place come from? Where did god come from in the first place? If you examine it deep
enough, there's not much more justification for the view of god than there is for the universe
just being there.
