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[_] >3008928 Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:46:53 No.3009020
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:50:40 No.3009022
>>3009020
This.
They come to /f/ with no knowledge whatsoever of flash and think using some online mp4 to swf
converter will do the job.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:52:22 No.3009024
>>3009022
What if they're using a good pirated converter?
Gotta start somewhere.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:54:59 No.3009025
>>3009024
To be honest, they could easily use ffmpeg to convert to flv and then convert that to swf.
It's been posted heaps of times:
http://eye.swfchan.com/services/swfh264/
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:57:57 No.3009027
>>3009025
Well thanks.
There are new posters here who I am sure really want to learn how to create & convert effectively
and want to know the important details and the best programs for it.
So you are doing a good thing tryin to help them.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:59:46 No.3009031
>>3009025
Question.
Is converting from FLV to SWF better then converting from MP4 to SWF?
Like youtube videos offer both but the FLV files are apparently of a smaller size/quality so... I
wouldn't think it would be a better base file to convert from if I wanted the best quality.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)17:59:54 No.3009032
>>3009025
>>3009024
Or, alternatively, they could just stop being dumb cunts and lrn2flash.
Seriously newfags, it's not hard. Just pirate the software and play around with all the buttons
for 30 minutes, you'll figure shit out.
>>3009027
Flash isn't really good for video embedding anyway. You really shouldn't be encouraging them to
make even more shitty youtube converts.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:01:05 No.3009035
>>3009025
Why that first conversion? Why not directly convert into flash? I don't see why you would need to
convert file containers more than once. I mean, I've used FFmpeg and just fiddled with all the
quality options and frame by frame changes to get something that looked decent enough.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:02:13 No.3009037
>>3009031
You don't "convert" flv to swf. You embed the flv INSIDE the swf. The swf file acts like a box
where you can put a bunch of stuff, e.g. images, music and flv video.
Again, please refrain from actually converting shitty youtube vids and posting them here.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:03:40 No.3009039
Speaking of making flashes, besides pirating or paying for the original adobo flush, are there
any free programs to make good flash content?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:04:51 No.3009040
>>3009037
FLV : [144p] 5.08 MB
MP4 : [360p] 5.21 MB
If I was to "embed/convert?" the FLV or convert the MP4 into a SWF which would give better
quality?
And you don't need to tell me about converting crap utube videos I don't do that.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:05:53 No.3009043
>>3009037
This.
Yeah sorry I said convert, I really should be saying encode - in the middle of eating breakfast
lol
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:09:30 No.3009044
>>3009040
Well actually FLV is most widely used for streaming.
While mp4 was only really created for portable use.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:11:15 No.3009046
Another question.
When converting MP4 to SWF (yeah yeah don't do it) is there a natural quality loss (because SWF
is an inferior codec for video/overall?) or do you just (ideally) use the same bitrate/framerate
and other specifications?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:13:56 No.3009047
>>3009046
Well I noticed a significant quality loss when converting/encoding to swf vs other filecontainers
with the same filesize, but I'm shit with computers, so I might have just been doing something
retarded.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:19:13 No.3009049
>>3009039
Flash is proprietary software, so generally no. I've heard about shitty bootleg stuff that CAN do
compile swf files (or some shitty opensource swf ripoff), but it must be incredibly awful, even
when compared to Adobe's heaps of crap.
Just pirate flash. It's not heavy, it's not hard. I'm pretty sure Adobe released some old version
of it for free on their website, go google that.
>>3009040
In short: if you're inexperienced enough to be asking that kind of question, it doesn't matter
for you, and you're probably doing things wrong anyway.
If you're using SWFh264 (which I personally don't recommend, it's a shitty format and the
produced swfs scream out laziness and poor quality, if you MUST convert a video and dump it on
/f/ do it via http://eye.swfchan.com/services/flvmaker/), just feed it whatever file is the
highest quality you can get your hand on.
>>3009046
Please learn the difference between codec, filetype and swf.
Codec: the actual arrangement of 1's and 0's that produces a moving picture (e.g. h264)
Filetype: a box containing said 1's and 0's, according to specific rules and limitations (mkv
files, for example, allow a lot of video, audio and subtitle tracks of almost all imaginable
codecs be all contained within one file. flv, not so much)
swf: An swf is a special "container file" that can contain a lot of stuff and do a lot of magic
on its own. It can contain video files, audio, images, vector animation, actionscript code and
much, much more. It's not a codec and not a real video filetype (since flv files are stored
within it almost as-is).
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:23:26 No.3009053
>>3009049
So in simple terms how would you convert a video to SWF since obviously you're an expert and
wouldn't use the flvmaker you linked.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:25:35 No.3009055
>>3009053
I'm hardly an expert. On the rare occasions I post videos to /f/ I DO use the flvmaker I linked.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:30:41 No.3009058
>>3009049
>flash is proprietary software
True, I suppose I hoped for too much, I thought there may be a SWF equivalent like gimp is to
photoshop.
I'll check for the free edition though, thanks.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:35:12 No.3009061
>>3009058
It isn't a "free edition", I'm not even entirely sure if it exists, and if it exists it's
something absolutely ancient like flash 8.
Just pirate it, man. CS6 is easy as fuck to pirate.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:41:00 No.3009063
>>3009061
But I live in burgerland, home of gangs of roving corporate lawyers who take piracy very
seriously.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:43:31 No.3009065
>>3009063
No one was ever prosecuted for pirating an adobe product
Half the fucking internet use PS, do you actually think even one of them paid literally hundreds
of dollars for it?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:46:39 No.3009068
>>3009065
We aren't all immoral thieves like you.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:47:58 No.3009072
>>3009065
A-are you sure it's not a honey pot and they won't send corporate death squads to my house as
soon as corporate lobbying makes it legal to have corporate appointed military industrial court
marshals for those who pirate?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:49:24 No.3009074
>>3009068
>>3009072
Is this what living in burgerland does to you, now?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:50:05 No.3009075
>>3009074
shhh they're listening
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)18:51:33 No.3009077
>20 posts on a humorous hank hill flash about shit quality flashes
>All posts are legitimate conversations about the relevant topic.
Never change /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)19:59:48 No.3009126
>>3009025
FOUR NAKED MEN.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:06:14 No.3009127
>>3009126
FIVE NAKED MEN
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:12:36 No.3009130
>>3009035
it's because swf isn't a video format so you can't "directly covert into flash".
swf is just as much a video format as a exe file is
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:19:07 No.3009136
>>3009130
You know what I meant, please don't be such a concrete smartass.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:23:40 No.3009138
>>3009136
He honestly didn't because comparing "converting to flv" and "converting to swf" is meaningless.
"converting" to swf IS converting to flv.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:23:53 No.3009139
>>3009136
sorry im just trying to help you understand the difference, didn't mean to offend you
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:25:34 No.3009140
>>3009138
but you can't post .flv files here
u need 2 convert them 2 swf first
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:26:22 No.3009141
>>3009140
You don't "convert" and flv to swf. You embed the former inside a latter.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:31:29 No.3009144
>>3009141
thats still converting it in a way
if i just hand you an flv file you cant get it on here
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:34:07 No.3009145
>>3009138
That's the point, "converting" or embedding, or encoding or whatever the fuck exact word you want
me to say, a video into a SWF will "convert" or embed, or encode, or entrap, or insert, or
whatever, the video into a format comparable with SWF. So what's the point of "converting" or
ensnaring, or combining, or entombing the video in another SWF comparable container, before
inserting it into the SWF container if the same steps are involved either way?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:34:14 No.3009146
>>3009144
>thats still converting it in a way
That's like saying that by putting a .jpg file inside a .zip you've "converted" a jpg to a zip.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:34:48 No.3009147
>>3009141
Don't fall for it
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)20:36:47 No.3009149
>>3009147
shutup bobby
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:00:45 No.3009159
Lurk /f/ all the time, and l know i'll sound like a tard asking this, but how the fuck do l
actually save a flash? Like how do l save a .sfw file?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:06:02 No.3009162
>>3009159
.swf, my bad
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:07:33 No.3009164
>>3009159
Just right click the name on /f/ page and click save link
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:15:34 No.3009167
SwfH264 is only useful if you actually know how to properly encode the video to get the most out
of it. Otherwise it looks just as awful.
Lots of people who upload stuff straight off of youtube just pick the defaults and the end result
is shit.
Sometimes its even as easy as simply copying the streams into an flv container, then embedding
that. But, people still upload crap (topically, and often by technicality).
I can't really blame some of them for not wanting to learn soon to be deprecated actionscript and
its toolset but if you can't even be bothered to read the 5 minute guide on encoding with ffmpeg
you may as well just not bother.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:21:15 No.3009169
>>3009159
ctrl+s if firefox.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:24:51 No.3009172
>>3009167
>5 minute guide on encoding
Link for guide please?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:25:11 No.3009173
>>3009169
>>3009164
Chrome, but it still worked. Thanks. l've tries to look it up before and it would never work.
Either saving it wan't an option, or the save wouldn't work once the page it relates to 404s
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:34:33 No.3009179
>>3009172
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/H.264
I call it 5 minutes because you could glance through this, piece together commands and you could
have good quality video.
But to get basic level of gud, you need to understand:
>When to use encoding presets
>Enable high profile
>Use two pass encoding
That will take more than 5 minutes. But the docs there do a pretty decent job of explaining that.
Relevant for here is to use AAC-HE for audio because then you can really bring the bitrate down
(to like 32kbps) without losing much quality (-profile:a aac_he -cutoff 18000 and use libfdk_aac).
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:37:21 No.3009180
>>3009159
tard detected
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:39:15 No.3009183
>>3009179
Thanks.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:41:11 No.3009187
>>3009180
:'(
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:44:19 No.3009190
>>3009187
>*pets you*
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:47:36 No.3009193
>>3009190
l get my question answered and get pets? l should post more often that twice a year.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:54:34 No.3009196
Why are we arguing about file conversion? I just want sauce on game.
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)21:57:27 No.3009199
>>3009196
What game? And why wouldn't we argue about file conversion?
>> [_] Anonymous 01/27/16(Wed)22:24:19 No.3009207
>>3009020
the filename doesn't make much sense, a more logical name would be something like "when shitty
sites watermark"
