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[_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:12:17 No.

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>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:17:04 No.

  I usually cook my food at home.
  Better quality and generally much cheaper then absurdly overpriced restaurant food.

  When I do order in I generally order from restaurants within 2-5 blocks from my house and I don't
  tip more then 1 or 2 dollars.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:19:50 No.

  >>3056719
  I dunno dude, I want to say tipping is stupid but the only guy you are fucking over is the guy
  you are tipping, not the restaurant, not like anyone else, just the guy who you are tipping.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:21:07 No.

  It's because waiting staff get paid basically fuck all and their livelihood is almost entirely on
  tips.

  The federal min wage with tips is $2.13. That's laughable.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:25:35 No.

  >>3056726
  >>3056725
  So large amounts of poor people should be forced to pay part of their salaries in order to help
  well off middle or upper class restaurant owners?
  I mean I could maybe slightly understand that socialist policy if you could tip based on your
  income but of course that isn't how it works. Everyone regardless of income level if expected to
  tip a minimum amount or more.
  Such a policy is inherently less fair the poorer you are and less harmful the richer you are
  (since you can pay the minimum acceptable amount no matter how rich you are and no one will
  bitch).
  Tipping is bullshit.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:27:41 No.

  >>3056719
  This guy has never been to France lol Noone in US gives a fuck about not tipping but in France if
  you dont tip the fucking doorman at Walmart you get stoned in public

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:29:40 No.

  >>3056727
  If you're so poor, why are you going to expensive restaurants where tipping could actually put a
  dent in your monthly pay?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:30:34 No.

  >>3056727
  Making min wage sucks though, even if the guy paying him has to make up for the difference if the
  waiter doesn't make the full amount.

  If the restaurant is doing well financially (as in, getting lots of customers) then why shouldn't
  the wait staff do well too (by getting lots of tips and making more then the usual min wage)?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:32:35 No.

  >>3056735
  Because treating yourself every now and then is to be frowned upon just because you don't have a
  lot of cash? Alright.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:35:48 No.

  I love gradeAunderA but jesus fucking christ this is not fucking >>>/youtube/ guys

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:37:47 No.

  >>3056727
  Rich people tend to tip more.

  Also, tipping is optional, but so is having all these waiters to pay. Why not save money by
  firing half of them because noone is tipping?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:37:56 No.

  >>3056739
  Nothing wrong with treating yourself, but YOU are the one who decided to go out for dinner after
  all. I think it would be reasonable for you to account for the cost of tipping before you go out.

  Yes, life is easier on the richer folk, it's just a rule of life in my eyes.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:38:01 No.

  >>3056735
  Just because someone is in a lower tax bracket doesn't mean they won't occasionally eat out or
  take cabs or order food by delivery etc...
  If Restaurants can't afford to pay their staff a living wage then they are a failed business
  relying on unearned charity to survive and using a flat-rate system that is biased against people
  who aren't wealthy.
  Fuck that. Let those Restaurants die rather then double scamming people who pay a huge markup for
  cheap food and then are expected to help pay the salaries of employees.
  The truth is most half way successful restaurants have more then enough money to pay their staff
  min wage or higher but don't so their owners can pocket more money...

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:39:05 No.

  >>3056739
  >"What! You want a tip? Can't you see I'm poor? I mean, I just ate a $200 meal with my wife at a
  Michelin Star restauraunt, it's not like I have money to go throwing around!"

  Here's a tip (no pun intended): If you're poor and want to treat yourself, find ways that don't
  involve paying an extra percentage on top of an already huge bill.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:39:18 No.

  >>3056741
  ikr let's just turn youtube videos into shit quality swfs and discuss them here. Quality posting.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:42:37 No.

  Yeah, maybe if the creator of this understood how waiters get paid in MURICA, it would make
  sense. He COULD just ask a waiter, but WAY easier to make a bitchy flash about how he hates it,
  right?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:43:46 No.

  >>3056744
  because then no one would come to your place to get food? lol idk about you but if i didnt get
  served for several hours i just would not go in the first place

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:44:28 No.

  >>3056749
  >being this retarded

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:46:49 No.

  >thinking it's my job to bum you money cause you don't get paid enough
  fuck off you nigger

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:48:44 No.

  >>3056749
  he literally addressed this in the video, It's not the customers job to pay the waiter any more
  than its the customers job to pay the cooks, you're supposed to get paid by your employer, not by
  random fuckers you happen to meet while working.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:52:45 No.

  >>3056719
  >Guaranteed Replies Guide:
  >Tipping
  >Traps/Trannies
  >Political flashes (bonus points if it's from some over/underrated political drama show)

  >Then rake in the (You)s

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:52:53 No.

  so do all you people that tip also give money to all the homeless people you see begging on the
  streets? or do you mean to tell me you'd rather give free money to people with jobs and a home
  than people with nothing at all

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)17:57:09 No.

  >>3056729
  I'm french and what are you talking about ? I agree 100% with this vid and my friends do too.
  Also the min wage in france is 9.xx Euro/h, which, without being great, is enough to live.
  (unlike the 2.xx $/h for american waiters, how the fuck can you agree to be paid third worlds
  salary)

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:06:35 No.

  I tip at restaurants when I get a server who is more of a host than a waiter. Even in the case of
  having small change from a bill to leave them, I tack on a few dollars. The act of tipping shows
  appreciation or approval in a setting as lesser intimate as a restaurant.
  You don't tip at a market because there's no real prolonged interaction.
  You only have to tip if you want. People do not judge you solely for refusing to tip a waiter who
  under-performs. They do when you're autistic enough to declare that you don't tip unless it's
  convenient or not at all

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:10:18 No.

  >>3056747
  fuck you nigger ill never tip u fuckin' fag so suck on deez

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:12:51 No.

  >>3056719
  I know right, why don't they just fucking include it in my bill as a service? Why the fuck do I
  need to worry about this shit?
  I hate eating out because of this, and do it as seldom
  >>3056727
  >I mean I could maybe slightly understand that socialist policy if you could tip based on your
  income
  as possible.
  Fuck you and your socialism, you pay according to how much you buy, the fatter the fuck you are
  the more you pay.
  The more resources you consume the more you pay.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:14:08 No.

  If you cant afford to tip without caring, then you can't afford to eat out. Go to the grocery
  store you broke motherfucker.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:19:02 No.

  >>3056779
  >Poor people stop eating out because of tip scam
  >Middle class shrinking
  >Most restaurants go out of business except for the small percent that cater to the wealthy
  >Profit???

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:24:57 No.

  >>3056770
  Im French and what are you talking about? I dont give two fucks about the video, but the tip
  system is literally there for hey thanks for not spitting in my food. Yes its extortion but what
  is a NEET like you gonna do about it?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:31:07 No.

  >>3056787
  >>but what is a NEET like you gonna do about it?
  I am gonna stop saving up and spending my NEET bux at fancy dining establishments.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:36:55 No.

  >>3056719
  As a delivery driver who makes more than 50% of my income in tips, I agree completely with almost
  every sentiment expressed here. Tipped jobs in the US make way more money than anything else at
  the same skill level. A waitress at applebees can make more than $30k a year not even working
  full time. I'd much rather drive around all night than break my fucking back in a factory or a
  warehouse every single day of the week. I understand why people get upset when they don't get
  tipped, but the level they take it to is insane. You don't make money being pissed off at people
  who don't tip, you make money on the customers who tip well.

  >>3056725
  This is why I always tip exorbitantly, though. The system is fucked, but fucked is normal in
  modern society. If a couple of dollars is the difference between making someone happy or upset,
  who the fuck cares?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:38:12 No.

  >>3056780
  Or
  >Poor people stop eating out because of tip scam
  >Restaurants notice a decline in customers and either decide that they're still making enough to
  get by, or they change their policies and promote optional tipping to appeal to poors
  >Poors and tip haters flock to the restaurants that made the switch
  >Profit

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:39:54 No.

  If we leave it up to the restaurants to pay their workers more, then it'll mean the food will be
  more expensive.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:41:52 No.

  Have any of you actually worked as a waiter/waitress in America? You make an amount about half
  minimum wage and then tipping should cover the rest up to around 15 dollars an hour at times. If
  you're not making about what the designated wage is then the company will pay the difference. At
  least, that's how it worked for me at a local restaurant. I remember my manager telling me those
  who the company is always having to cover are let off after a while because they are a liability
  and providing poor service. I never ran into that problem but working late nights along with
  college was tough on man levels, so after about 6 months I quit.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:43:58 No.

  No tipping where I am from. I guess you could say I pay the tip in the bill thou

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:49:06 No.

  >>3056719
  tipping is what motivates the waiter to give you better service

  but really its at the end so whatever, they dont know how much effort to give beforehand. but i
  tip my garbage man, my post man, and other people because i know they get shit wages, and i know
  they put in hard work. i tip to help out.

  its a mess, but i still do it especially if theyre nice. i dont mind giving nice people a little
  bigger cut out of my wallet

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:51:12 No.

  >>3056798
  it's a stressful job only because you are required to be so fake; your income depends on your
  ability to always act like you're happy. You're not on equal footing with your customers. You're
  their slave unless you don't care about how much money you make. And if you don't care about
  money, you wouldn't be working there.

  That, and restaurants are breeding grounds for all kinds of retarded drama. It's what happens
  when you cram the same handful of people into a small space and have them to do something they
  don't want to do.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:52:32 No.

  >>3056803
  I thought federal wages were amazing, though. Trashmen get paid $16 an hour on average. You're
  wasting your tips on people who get paid decently.
  Not to mention all the federal benefits, too.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:55:13 No.

  >>3056797
  then food will be the price it should be

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:57:01 No.

  >>3056808
  and then nobody will eat there because it's expensive as fuck. Having to pay a huge flat bill
  sucks, but a smaller bill with the added 'feel good' extra doesn't.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:57:33 No.

  >>3056811
  maybe to stupid people

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)18:58:56 No.

  >>3056812
  Guess what makes restaurants money?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:00:55 No.

  I never tip and no one can stop me.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:05:16 No.

  >>3056726
  >minimum wage is $7.25
  >some ruling allows this to be changed ever

  This is bullshit. Letting the law have special exit clauses for certain groups for whatever
  reason goes directly against the entire point of having laws in the first place.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:07:33 No.

  >>3056813
  It's the same either way. one way just makes sense and is the way the rest of all jobs work. Tips
  are like the only way for someone with a hs degree to make decent money though.

  >>3056813
  good food.

  >>3056817
  if you consider inflation you see minimum wage has been going down since the 70's or something

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:08:27 No.

  >>3056817
  >live in New York
  >no guns allowed
  >what happened to the 2nd Amendment?

  Laws and Amendments are routinely shit on in America.
  The people in charge don't care about anything unless it helps support whatever evil agenda they
  are currently supporting.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:09:52 No.

  Apparently we tip out of guilt more than anything else.

  http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/01/20/463726763/episode-283-why-do-we-tip

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:10:52 No.

  We tip because we care

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:15:16 No.

  >>3056726
  You employer is legally required to pay you minimum wage. If you tips do not cover the spread
  your employer is legally required to make up the difference. Suck a dick dumbshits.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:21:58 No.

  The tips aren't going to Gordon Ramsey though, I don't think this guy understands where tips go.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:25:05 No.

  >>3056829
  this is basically just a loophole the employer found to steal the tips from the employees. i
  would never work somewhere that tried to steal my tips from me.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:27:58 No.

  >>3056840
  Wake the fuck up.
  Even in fancy Restaurants the point of tips is still so the employer can pay the employee less
  then he would expect given the financial success of the business and the size of their monthly or
  annual profits.
  Tipping is a scam, period.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:30:57 No.

  >>3056850
  Yup.
  Tipping allows average Restaurants to pay their employees less them min wage and allows fancy big
  money earning Restaurants to pay their employees at or just above min wage.

  Restaurants should discourage tipping and simply raise food prices so that they can make the
  profits they want while also paying their employees a correct wage.
  If people won't pay the extra price then they either need to shut down or deal with smaller
  profits in their greedy pockets.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:51:54 No.

  >>3056719
  tipping is dumb, im glad nobody tips in sweden.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:51:56 No.

  I'm french and I never give tips for any service.If you think an employee can spit in your food
  for not tipping go to an other café.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:53:15 No.

  >>3056850
  This. Not tipping pisses people off because you're screwing the waiter/waitress over.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)19:57:51 No.

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  nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga
  i'm 200% nigga

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:01:39 No.

  MARTH BTFO

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:02:46 No.

  I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really
  put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping
  automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:07:03 No.

  >>3056888
  I kek'd

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:30:44 No.

  guaranteed (You)s

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:42:16 No.

  It is expected you will tip between 12-20% of the tab for good service. If you receive bad
  service it is acceptable to leave either a very small tip, or no tip at all. You are tipping the
  waiter, not the restaurant. The waiter makes less than the minimum wage, he is expected to make
  his living off of tips. If you don't leave a tip, you have paid the restaurant for the product,
  and made the waiter run around bringing you shit all damn day for approximately 2.13 an hour. The
  restaurant does not get any of the tip money, the only people that get tip money are waiters
  bartenders bar-backs and very rarely kitchen staff.

  Tipping is customary in the USA, it is expected as part of common civil manners. If you don't
  tip, you are very literally being rude to the waiter. When you do not leave a tip, you are
  actually telling the waiter that they did a shitty job. If you don't understand this concept, the
  problem lies with you. It is extremely simple to comprehend, stop being a cheapskate. If you are
  not from the USA and you are visiting then you need to understand that not tipping is considered
  extremely rude. If you don't want to abide by local customs, maybe don't visit? When I travel
  abroad I take extra care to be polite and observe local customs and manners even when they are
  confusing or weird to my sensibilities. If you still cant understand, then you are extremely
  autistic and should probably just stay in your parents basement where you belong.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:44:46 No.

  >>3056737
  keep in mind the following points:

  minimum wage doesn't have to suck. in fact the US is pushing for 15 an hour and so far, several
  major cities have passed increases in minimum wage.

  making up the difference is a flaw in the system. change the laws so that waiters must be paid
  their minimum wage, instead of relying on tips to make up the difference.

  when business A is going well, employees of A should benefit, I agree. this is a problem across
  all job types, not just restaurants and tipping culture. it's not an easy fix and some businesses
  do reward their employees, but getting other businesses to comply, we would have to tie company
  owner pay to employee pay. Sweden pursued this once a couple years ago, but it failed to pass.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/06/16(Wed)20:54:58 No.

  >>3056919
  Fuck your customs.
  I live in America and I never tip.
  Nothing bad ever happens to me and the same servers keep serving.
  I am not tipping anyone for doing their job unless I feel like granting them charity.
  The job of a waiter is no more difficult then working at a McDonalds infact it is easier.
  No reason I should tip them if I wouldn't tip the latter.
  Oh and as mentioned waiters always get min wage at worst. If they don't get enough tips the owner
  pays the difference. Fuck them and fuck their tips. They don't deserve them.