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[_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:11:49 No.3083125
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>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:30:38 No.3083143
tipping in the usa started during prohibition, you'd tip the staff to get let into the
"speakeasy" where illegal booze was served... since you were being tipped the owner didn't need
to pay as much. when minimum wage laws took effect in the 70's tipping was so well established
there was an exception for food service wages being lower. infact today if you don't declare tips
the IRS adds 20% to your income tax level...
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:32:18 No.3083144
People who get tipped get payed lower than minimum wage
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:35:31 No.3083147
Even ignoring the fact that waiters typically need the tips just to make minimum wage, this guy
is wrong about several things. You don't just tip at restaurants, at least in America. Tips are
for services, so you can tip house cleaning, or concierge, or anything else that provided a
service that you feel was quality enough to deserve a tip.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:36:18 No.3083149
the only thing I tip is my fedora
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:37:11 No.3083151
>>3083147
>You don't just tip at restaurants, at least in America
Wanna know how I know you aren't American?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:39:37 No.3083153
>>3083151
Because I live in the United States? Do you stay in a hotel and seriously not tip the
housekeeping?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)18:43:16 No.3083161
>>3083144
Except that if you don't make minimum wage from tips your employer has to make up the difference.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)19:01:36 No.3083176
I'll tell you this lads, never take a job where you get paid a commission rate (Re: A % of how
much money you make the business). They're a fuckin' scam, because unlike with "tips" your
employer is under no obligation to bring your monthly wage up to the minimum wage levels.
Hairdressers/barbers get screwed hardest of all with these, and with those sometimes they get the
EVEN SHITTIER deal of getting a flat (low) rate per month regardless of clients, with their only
bonuses being for selling "product" (re: Those bottles of needlessly-overpriced hair-care shit
that they try to peddle you when you go to pay, at some places.)
It's a fucking joke.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)19:12:40 No.3083185
>>3083176
a lot of barber shop just rent you the chair, if you get 1 or 100 customers no worry to them
>> [_] RIP Anon 05/18/16(Wed)19:31:22 No.3083194
The problem, I think we can mostly agree on, is that it is established as customary thing in our
culture. But how would you go about changing that? Not enough people are going to just not tip,
we already know that.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)19:56:39 No.3083214
The reason you don't tip at a grocery store - The cashier gets paid to stand there and gets fired
for bad behavior because they really don't have to deal with tricky or overly picky customers and
If its the customers fault the line is backed up its the customers fault.
Resturant - tips are a means to keep your god damn composure in the face of overly complex or
moronic requests, being patient with people and being quick about it then making sure if there's
a hold up in the kitchen you don't keep the customers on hold without telling them about it.
If anyone in their life hasn't worked in a restaurant then they fucking should so they don't come
in there and be an asshole the size of georgia. If your server is a bitch though, don't tip the
bitch much because more than not tipping leaving 3 cents pisses them off way more
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:09:14 No.3083223
>>3083214
I went to a grocery store where there's a tip jar at every register.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:11:45 No.3083224
>>3083153
Uh, why exactly would you tip housekeeping when you are paying for the hotel room in the first
place?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:17:21 No.3083231
>>3083224
>Donald Trump detected
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:19:31 No.3083233
English people are idiots. Tipping on a service based job is based on quality. You tip them well
if you are provided a good service, and poor if they provide you a poor service. If they get the
money regardless, why would they bother proving you an above average service, just enough to not
get paid? Europeans doesn't understand capitalism.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:22:59 No.3083236
>It's the customer's job to compensate for the waiter's shitty wages because of the employer
real nice american "logic" you idiots got here
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:25:22 No.3083238
>>3083233
Eh.
Writing down an order and carrying a few plates & cups to a table can't be done good or bad.
You either do it correctly or incorrectly.
I mean that is perhaps a bit cut and dry but waiting tables is essentially "write down
order/bring order to table/keep head up and check if table needs anything every few minutes"
etc...
Hard to really do it "good or bad" etc... you just do it right or wrong.
Most service jobs are somewhat like that with perhaps an exception in some cases.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:26:37 No.3083240
>>3083231
>I have no argument so I'll just project my personal misguided views of Trump onto him
good one.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:33:23 No.3083244
>>3083238
People in the food service industry have some fucking terrible lives. Especially if they're
waiters or waitresses. People yell, scream, throw shit, and sometimes even assault the wait staff
just because they think that the old say of the customer always being right is some kind of law.
Waitstaff are some seriously tough people to deal with that shit.
Also, Jesus fucking Christ. Have we sunk so low here at /f/ that we're ripping and posting
massive Youtube channels like GradeAUnderA? Weird shit or shit that got removed like Rapeman I
understand, but fucking Grade?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:36:32 No.3083247
>>3083161
see they have to go to their boss and let them know that they didnt get minimum wage, often that
means they get kicked out the door
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:37:40 No.3083248
>>3083244
>People in the food service industry have some fucking terrible lives.
So do people at McDonalds, you don't see society demanding I tip them.
Also thats a shitty excuse. We all have our own problems.
>People yell, scream, throw shit, and sometimes even assault the wait staff just because they
think that the old say of the customer always being right is some kind of law.
Not my problem.
I generally keep my orders simple and quick.
I couldn't be a better customer in terms of making shit easy on my waiters.
I shouldn't have to pay extra because some people are faggots.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:39:46 No.3083249
>>3083244
No one makes flash animations anymore. It started with idiots who cant and dont want to produce
anything worth a shit rip anime and loop it to a song, we are now on the next level were NO
talent is done. 90% of new flash videos are just ripped youtube videos. Anything thats not ripped
from youtube is usually just downloaded from z0r.de
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:41:37 No.3083251
>>3083244
>People yell, scream, throw shit, and sometimes even assault
the police force deal with that shit too, sometimes even more psychotic people. why dont you go
to your local law enforcement agency and tip them then?
hell if these bitch waiters want a more money why dont they just grow a fucking pair and ask
their boss for a raise or maybe work to find a better job? there's plenty of other places willing
to hire talentless monkeys.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:43:47 No.3083253
>>3083248
Bad apples ruin the bunch, bud. And besides, the entire reason tipping exists is because the
restaurant industry has taken up the old steel boom methods. Current federal law says that for
waitstaff you only need to pay them $2.50 hourly wage. This is because it's expected that if
they're paid regular federal minimum wage of $7.50 that adding in tips means they'll make more
than $25 an hour evenly distributed and disrupt some kind of balance for taxes. It's all
bullshit, and restaurant companies keep trying to keep their industry's minimum wage at $2.50 so
they can keep large individual franchises running without causing the costs to get too high for
franchise owners. Tipping should and is slowly being abolished, but it's an outrage it was
allowed to become a staple part of a person's income in the first place.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:44:45 No.3083255
>>3083249
looping anime gifs are literally 100 times more creative than ripped youtube videos
at least there was some thought and effort put into making them than a literal, Download -->
Upload
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:46:10 No.3083259
>>3083251
There's a difference between being given the responsibility of keeping civil peace and just being
asked to be the go-between for the cook and a customer. When you're a waiter you're not expecting
someone to go apeshit on you over a cold fucking steak. When you're a police officer it's pretty
expected to have to wrestle a guy to the ground during a civil disruption call.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:48:07 No.3083260
>>3083240
Not that guy, but I tip house cleaning for doing a good job. Don't be a dick.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:49:23 No.3083261
>>3083260
I'm only criticizing his lack of an argument and resorting to creating a strawman image of
someone he doesn't agree with to project onto the poster.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:52:53 No.3083264
>>3083261
The joke was that many housekeepers are Hispanic (or are stereotyped that way) and Trump is often
said to be racist towards Hispanics.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:53:23 No.3083265
>>3083260
How is it being a dick? I already paid for them to come clean.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:56:02 No.3083266
>>3083265
You paid them to clean. They could have just cleaned, but they took the extra effort to wipe off
all the spooge from your body pillow you tried to hide. They deserve that extra tip.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:56:11 No.3083267
>>3083255
placing a gif into flash and then telling it to play a song is NOT "100 times more creative than
ripped youtube videos" and its people who think it is that killed the flash community.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)20:56:28 No.3083268
>>3083238
>Writing down an order and carrying a few plates & cups to a table can't be done good or bad.
You're wrong right off the bat. It's a service, just like everyone else is saying. The thing with
cashiers is that I'm not interacting with them for 30 minutes to an hour. Fast food restaurants,
I'm not interacting with them for 15-30 minutes. It is only places where the interactions take
place for an extended period of time that the tipping comes into play.
http://www.pigtrip.net/40TipsForWaiters.htm
This is literally just the first google hit on "how to be a good waiter", just because you
experience it does not mean there is not much that goes into it behind the scenes.
>>3083265
Yes, but sometimes they go above and beyond. They could just do the minimum amount of work but if
they're making everything absolutely perfect while knowing not to fuck up any of your shit.
Again, you think these jobs are much more simple than they actually are.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:00:18 No.3083272
>>3083259
So what? By your logic, since of these occupations suffer conflict and turmoil, we as consumers
are obligated to throw free money at them as a sort of ritual act of sympathy and pity.
But because of expectations in other occupations, the almost forced act of pity tipping isn't
seen as being necessary? Despite the fact that said neglected occupation could possibly be far
more dangerous and is of considerably far greater importance?
You sound like nothing more than a sheep being guided by these archaic cultural and societal
expectations.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:00:31 No.3083273
>>3083268
>you think these jobs are much more simple than they actually are
I'm not responsible for paying their salary. If they don't get enough money the multi-million
company hiring them should pay them better.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:00:45 No.3083274
>>3083268
>you're wrong!
>doesn't explain how I am wrong
Yeah, ok bud.
>waiter comes to my table
>I tell her I want a bacon cheeseburger cooked medium well and a diet coke
>she writes down the simple order and 15-20 minutes later brings it to me
>10-15 min later I wave her over when she surveys the room and I ask her for a glass of water
>10-15 minutes later I wave her over and ask for the check, leave money on the table and leave.
She spent maybe 1 minute total talking to me during my entire stay at the restaurant (if even
that) and brought me one plate and 2 cups of liquid.
I mean yeah a waiter can be terrible and do their job wrong but as I showed in the above example
its painfully easy and requires little effort or skill.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:02:43 No.3083275
>>3083144
false, your employer is legally required to pay you minimum wage. if an employees tips do not
reach minimum wage the employer is obligated to cover the spread.
>>3083147
>Tips are for services
false, if tipping was about getting better service you would show the person the tip before the
service was preformed.
>>3083194
this is the correct answer.
>>3083244
if tipping is about giving people with shitty lives better lives why don't we tip homeless
people? why isn't his addressed through welfare?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:05:27 No.3083276
>>3083272
Are you fourteen? You do realize that there's a difference between placing yourself into conflict
and being dragged into it by a random asshole, right? You're not expected to tip a waiter or
waitress because they put up with assholes like yourself. You do it because they tried their best
to provide a service to you, being the single tenuous link in what's usually a complicated dance
between three different people.
>>3083273
Dude, like a fucking millionaire is going to say "Yeah, no. I don't like money. Here, have a
raise peon who I don't have any way of contacting." Just look at the freakout the Carl's
Jr./Hardee's CEO is having over people wanting higher minimum wage.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:07:20 No.3083279
>>3083267
>literally stealing content is the same as actually putting in the effort to go into photoshop to
slap shit together
lmao okay buddy
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:08:22 No.3083281
>>3083276
Maybe the fucking millionaire shouldn't be allowed to hire people for almost nothing
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:09:24 No.3083282
>>3083267
I would enjoy a animutation even, just so long as it was actually flash animated. Or animated and
then converted to .swf format. These Youtube reposts are just as bad as the forced memes from the
other sides of the site.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:11:26 No.3083283
>>3083281
We've been trying to stop that. Because people keep saying "it's not my problem" we have a
fucking pumpkin running for president while the middle class has all but almost disappeared.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:13:17 No.3083284
>>3083231
So let me get this straight, I should be tipping the staff that tend to my room, one that I paid
for, which will include the upkeep/staff costs, just because they're doing the job they were
hired to do?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:13:37 No.3083285
>>3083276
>complicated dance between three different people
>being a middle man is somehow difficult
>relaying simple orders and information is some kind of art form
Come over here so I can give you a tip for trying your best. You got dragged into this chaotic
discussion.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:14:03 No.3083288
>>3083276
>they tried their best to provide a service to you
if you don't want to do the job don't it
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:17:15 No.3083289
itt: poor people try to justify being too poor to give someone five extra dollars
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:19:19 No.3083291
Poor people shouldn't tip if they live harder lives than the waiter, but they're obliged to.
The super rich people tip freely because a $50 bill and a $100 bill are relatively similar when
they have so much money.
The middle class doesn't exist.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:19:42 No.3083292
>>3083289
itt: people who think we should pay people extra to do their fucking job
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:20:13 No.3083293
>>3083289
Why should we have to give them money? If they went out of their way to make my experience
better, than yeah I'd consider it, otherwise no.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:21:17 No.3083294
Tipping vs not tipping is old as fuck bait.
How are you idiots falling for this?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:22:30 No.3083295
itt: suburban middle class kids desperately trying to justify subsidizing food service CEOs
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:22:48 No.3083296
>>3083285
When I worked as a waiter I didn't just write shit down and then hand it off to the cook. As is
common, I had to clear disgusting tables, figure out how to put 40 people in a section that only
fit 16, clean pretty much the entire dining area, manage the total cost for all the tables in my
section -- including adding in last minute orders, coupons, and comps -- and doing shit like
washing out the tea and coffee kegs, refilling the condiment udders, prepping food for the cooks,
and doing inventory. All after hours, without overtime, and under threat of losing my job if I
left it to the kitchen staff when half of that was their fucking job in the first place. Unless
you stay in the back all the time it's a fucking hellhole that you only stay in until a slightly
less inhospitable hellhole that pays better happens to open up.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:44:04 No.3083320
>>3083125
>what is culture
not saying tipping is some rich culture or some shit, but it's just something americans do. I
could easily make a video pissing on English people for not tipping enough, different places do
different things lol
kinda tired of this "I'm angry and that makes me funny" comedy.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)21:47:16 No.3083323
>>3083296
All this tells me is we should keep tipping so that the rich CEOs can get away with this for even
longer
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)22:38:26 No.3083353
>>3083275
>false, your employer is legally required to pay you minimum wage. if an employees tips do not
reach minimum wage the employer is obligated to cover the spread.
go deliver a pizza retard you're paid 4.50 most places by hour when you are out of the store. get
fucked
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)22:38:44 No.3083355
>>3083274
>medium well
ah that explains it, you're just a tasteless asshole.
carry on
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)22:58:37 No.3083369
How has no one commented the actual flash, that gradeA was an asshole who tried to censor
discussion about his videos?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:04:56 No.3083372
>>3083296
Fuck you. I worked retail, I've cleaned vomit, piss, shit, cum, and blood off walls, floors, and
pretty much anything else those liquids/solids can get on while at work. I'm fucking tired of
piss babies that bitch about clearing tables and having to put of with a handful of shitty
entitled people for a few hours a day. I never got a fucking tip for doing my god damn job
>B-but restaurant staff make less than minimum wage!
Complain to the Department of Labor. Plenty of other countries get on just fine without tipping
their waitstaff and their food isn't any more expensive than it is here.
Fuck tipping and entitled waiters piss me off.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:05:03 No.3083373
>>3083355
no you
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:05:13 No.3083374
>>3083296
isnt that your own dumb fault for being a waiter? it is a shitty job, i see no reason you should
get tipped over a different person with an equally shitty (usually shittier, you had it
relatively easy fuckhead) job that isnt in contact with people to tip you
not only that, tipping is racist and sexist and generally prone to all forms of personal
discrimination, and that has no place in a fucking shit kicking job. abolish tipping and make it
something that is a bonus for only exceptional standards of service.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:05:30 No.3083375
>>3083373
oh shit, he's got you there
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:24:16 No.3083387
I don't believe a tip is necessary. Nobody chooses our place of employment for us. We choose for
ourselves. Someone wanting to wait tables or provide some sort of service should know what they
are getting into. Every job has its good times and bad times. I don't get a tip for doing to
super-duper job. I may get some satisfaction out of it as well as the experience of whatever it
is that I do. Same for the waiter or service provider. They get the satisfaction and experience
from their job as well. If tips are necessary they should be included in the price. As it was
mentioned earlier, tips were invented as a work-around for illegal activity. Since I can easily
enter a restaurant, aside from waiting in a long line to get in, a tip should no longer be
necessary.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:32:01 No.3083393
i used to work as a waiter in a restaurant and used to spit and toss crap on peoples food who
does not tip.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:32:43 No.3083396
>>3083393
you're trash
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:33:48 No.3083397
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>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:34:05 No.3083398
>>3083393
>you don't give me free money so I'm going to spit in your food
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:35:16 No.3083399
>>3083397
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>>3083397
>yee
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>>3083399
>>3083401
oops. Clicking 65 replies is a little tedious.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/18/16(Wed)23:58:24 No.3083418
fuck Restaurans, they are glorified donation centers, take millions of years to attend you / give
you receipt and cost double to triple the actual ingredients.
I stick to making my own food or street stands (which are faster, cheaper, dont require tip, more
delicious and you can actually see the food prepared in front of you).
