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[_] /r/ing those two trippy touhous with the blue dress Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)19:17:03 No.3125473
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>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)19:30:16 No.3125477
what anime is this?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)19:52:47 No.3125485
>>3125477
some as flash name, it's a ova series about fighter pilots. the flash itself is from the 2nd story
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)19:59:12 No.3125488
>>3125485
Were they fucking glorifying kamikaze pilots or did I misinterpret?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)20:10:10 No.3125491
>>3125488
Yes, yes they absolutely are.
I mean, it is kinda remarkable that people did volunteer to fly what were essentially
human-guided bombs.
Not even for a religion at that, but for what was basically a last-ditch delaying action in the
Pacific theater. They knew they were fucked- their infrastructure was gone, their ace pilots all
dead, carriers all sunk. They did it just to slow down the Americans, just by a little longer.
Anyways what is the song source on this? It's not actually in this scene of the anime.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)20:11:46 No.3125492
>>3125491
Many of the were not volunteers. I've read about the kamikazi and a lot of them were fucking
terrified kids some no older than 15 or 16.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)20:21:56 No.3125496
>>3125488
yes they are, Lot of japanese think they literally did nothing wrong during the war. Even the
recent previous mayor of Tokyo is a famous war crime denier of stuff like the rape of nanking.
Some of their top government officials even now describe japan as a victim of ww2 and after the
recent elections it's a real possibility of the return to state Shintoism(emperor worship) and a
independent military.
>>3125492
they were volunteers from the books I've read on it they had so many volunteers that they did not
have enough planes, near the end their were cases of large kamikaze squadrines consisting of
dozens of planes getting absolutely rekt by late war allied planes racking up massive kill ratios
since almost all the jap pilots were brand new kids or old men at that point. It's not surprising
considering how fanatical they were near the end of the war and what they got fed about Americans
wanting to kill them all family included.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)20:23:06 No.3125498
>>3125492
Yeah I guess "volunteer" is the wrong word, but it's not like they were necessarily held at
gunpoint to go fly the things.
They were convinced by people (who conveniently didn't have to get in one themselves) that their
deaths would bring honor to their families & the emperor and whatnot. Some people did really
drink that kool-aid pretty hard.
/Also I found the song sauce myself, it's the MuvLuv Alternative OP for anyone interested.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)20:31:08 No.3125504
>>3125496
>Lot of japanese think they literally did nothing wrong during the war.
After reading a book on their war crimes I'm not buying it.
Reading about some of the shit literally made me nauseous. Like anally raping captured allied
soldiers with swords and setting women on fire, absolute inhuman shit.
The only reason I give the average citizen a pass is because their government was basically taken
over in the years leading up to the war by fanatics who believed the Japanese were the chosen
people, and believe that once the war had started they would win because of their divine nature
and never have to answer for any war crimes because they would be the victors.
Anyone at any level in the government who was like "hey man that shit's not cool" was either
ostracized or outright driven out of office or killed.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)20:42:10 No.3125511
>>3125504
They have government officials like ishihara saying the rape of nanking is a chinese created lie.
Look into unit 731 if you want to learn about the pinnacle of modern war crimes, they were korean
based and they committed extreme experiments on prisoners like replacing blood with saline
solution, I hear they got of scot free since some of the shit they did advanced medical research
massively and they turned it over.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:14:22 No.3125563
>>3125496
they're trying to establish a military again for the offensive if need be but the UN wont allow
it as per the signed treaty at the end of world war 2.
the only thing they can invest in is defense.
talk about fucked to a point of moe.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:18:12 No.3125568
>>3125563
>UN
All they really need to do is repeal a certain part of their law given to them by the US, The UN
is mostly a irrelevant organization with no real influence or power. The things are looking it's
most likely going to happen within the next 5 years
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:34:11 No.3125570
>>3125485
It's not Area 88, is it?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:44:16 No.3125576
>>3125563
They are constitutionally bound to maintain only a force for self defense. That's why their
current military organization is called the JSDF (Japanese Self Defense Force).
The current rightwing government, led by Shinzo Abe as the PM, is pushing for a more
nationalistic strain of government that includes a revocation of Article 9, which is the bit that
commits the nation to a self-defense force only with no offensive capabilities.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:44:30 No.3125577
>>3125563
The Reason that they have military restrictions is because the US wrote them into the Japanese
constitution. However now the US wants them to fight China and is trying to get them to change
their constitution and build a bigger army.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:50:11 No.3125584
>>3125576
Samefag. So it's not necessarily the UN. To maintain an "offensive" military they would have to
repeal that part of the constitution, which is difficult because while the rightwing party is
currently in power, they do not have the overwhelming majority needed to ratify that kind of
change (I think--don't quote me on that). Plus, there's a lot of opposition to it from more
doveish sectors of politics and of society, notably the Democratic Party of Japan.
>>3125496
Feh, why do people fight and die for their country? Seriously--not trying to sound nihilistic
here, but that strain of nationalism and pride isn't really that different from what other
countries have, although it's possibly made a bit worse because of the type and culture of
society Japan has (read: somewhat less receptive to criticism of authority).
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)22:55:14 No.3125585
>>3125577
As for current geopolitics, I think that's an overstatement. There are *certain bombastic, almost
billionaire elements* of US politics that want America to withdraw from their current position of
strength in Asia and have the local countries, Japan, SK, Taiwan, shoulder more of the burden of
defense. Leaving alone the fact that this will drastically weaken our influence abroad, it also
destabilizes the region because it means Japan, as well as SK and others, are more heavily armed
and (as history has proven) more likely to engage in conflict with each other as well as with
China.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:02:06 No.3125592
You see, this is why you give a one liner AFTER you shoot the other guy.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:12:39 No.3125597
>>3125584
>why do people fight and die for their country?
The entire concept of kamikaze is something that you would only really ever get from a place with
a culture like japan's, The extreme emphasis on honor and duty in their culture is pretty alien
to the other cultures, these people still commit suicide even today to try to preserve honor. If
you sincerely believed that by yourself you could save your other countrymen by giving yourself
up wouldn't you? The idea of being able to trade yourself for hundreds of the enemy is very
appealing even if in practice it was not that effective since the US had overwhelming air power,
I guess you could say manpower wise it was a success but not a game changer in any real sense.
>>3125585
The US really needs to maintain a military presence considering china is already trying to bully
their way into taking over islands and sea zones, Having real support from the locals would put
much less strain on the US. The suggestion that SK, Taiwan, or Japan would ever fight each other
is ludicrous considering they all depend on the US for protection and all have two distinct
common enemies in NK and China while sharing democratic governments which there enemies lack.
What would be more ideal is to have a NATO like alliance along with having actual militaries to
support each other.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:22:35 No.3125608
>>3125597
No, I agree with you. But I don't think that arming each of the countries is a solution; not to
reduce complex geopolitics to platitudes, but when all you've got is a hammer, everything starts
to look like a nail.
As for fighting each other, I don't think the concept is too far off. Historically, none of these
nations really get along with each other. I don't think they'd go all out into war, but
skirmishes and minor destabilizing conflicts are likely and they will add up over time. US
withdrawal from the region means that in the best case, those countries will form alliances with
each other, but WWI has proven what happens when you've got a spiderweb's worth of alliances in a
volatile region.
The interesting thing about China's actions is that it's having the effect of uniting American
allies in the region against it. Ironically, I suspect the real reason why China is saber
rattling is because it wants to distract its domestic population from economic gloom and
widespread social issues (gender imbalance, rich and poor, corruption, lack of human rights). The
specter of a "US threat" helps rally people to nationalism, but the side effect is pissing off a
bunch of China's neighbors and creating a new international headache.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:29:09 No.3125613
>>3125597
I have to disagree on US world policing. If it strengthens our position on the planet, then do
it, 110 percent. If it weakens our position, don't do it. Should be simple as that.
As it stands, we have this insane puritanical view that it is the USA's duty to single-handedly
uplift the entire planet. I don't know where it comes from, but it's neurotic, and it needs to
end yesterday.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:30:16 No.3125615
>>3125491
this is reddit formatting. you dont need that many line breaks
>>3125496
this is 4chan formatting. they are not abusing the enter key
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:33:17 No.3125618
>>3125615
Are you a fucking autist?
Who gives a shit?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:39:48 No.3125623
>>3125613
And that's the thing, I don't think that view really takes into account the net effect. You're
not looking at the long game here. A war would be bad for everyone, including the US, considering
we rely so heavily on Asia for the bulk of our manufacturing. Stability there means stability at
home. It's like paying taxes: you don't see the immediate benefit very clearly, but it's
definitely there.
>>inb4 nihilistic oh I don't pay taxes, no benefit, muh freedums.
Anyways, we had the same thinking at the outbreak of World War 2: oh it's not our problem, why
should we get involved? America First. America is great. They wanna fight, it's not gonna impact
us. We've got OCEANS.
And if we withdraw from the world because, hey, we don't see any immediate benefit, then guess
who's in a prime position to fill the void? A country like China or Russia. That's something I
don't think *certain billionaire loving parts of the US* don't understand; you're destroying
America's place in the world by reneging on NATO and withdrawing from Asia. And all for what? An
immediate short-term savings?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:40:44 No.3125624
>>3125608
>widespread social issues (gender imbalance, rich and poor, corruption, lack of human rights).
The thing with the Chinese is they don't give much of a shit about any of those for the most
part, as long as they are fed your fine. China has historically always had a massive lower class
and most of them lack real concepts of western ideals. China tends to run on a cycle of long
lasting peace then having a internal power struggle then another era of peace.
>But I don't think that arming each of the countries is a solution
This is were we differ, I would advocate for giving japan nuclear weapons as I heavily believe in
the MAD doctrine keeping things stable and being responsible the the complete lack of any wars
between global powers since ww2. Well at least to countries that are not extremists such as Iran
or Israel which both can't be trusted. Iran for being run by fundamentalists and Israel for the
war crimes they keep committing.
>>3125613
keeping asia stable is in US interest considering our heavy trade ties. US world police works
when your not bombing civies in the ME all to protect "muh sacred clay". They should really just
make Jerusalem and the surrounding area a jointly administered non-country just to stop all the
fucking conflict that shitty nation keeps drumming up.
>>3125615
>>3125618
no one cares about format, no one here is writing a fucking school paper.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:47:41 No.3125627
>>3125623
We shouldn't have gotten involved in WW2. Let Stalin fight Hitler, and Hitler fight Stalin, we
wait for the aftermath.
Should have stayed totally neutral, and grabbed pieces up in other places.
As for this Asian reliance, that's an insane policy. You are relying on something outside of you
you have no control over. That's not good. That's never good. It's why working people are so
stressed all the time. They rely on that paycheck. Compare it to financially independent people
who are far more relaxed.
When we're in a position where we need somebody other than ourselves, when we're one of the
biggest countries on earth in terms of land mass and population, we really need to take a step
back and look at what's wrong with this picture, especially considering our self reliance for
decades prior to the whole free trade fascination.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:52:04 No.3125631
>>3125624
I want to counter that point about MAD. Remember MAD rests on some basic principles: 1. each
country wants to survive. 2. each country has things to lose. 3. neither country wants to back
down. What if you have a country where those don't apply? North Korea is a country that really
has nothing to lose. If SK were to try and arm itself with offensive capabilities, North Korea
would just start bombing because it knows it'd be in a game it can't win.
MAD is economically unfeasible over the long term. It's the classic prisoner's game: as soon as
you realize it's the final two rounds, everyone tries to undercut the other. And honestly, if MAD
really worked, then here in the US everyone would have guns and there would be no crime. It's the
same principle in microcosm.
We're currently not in MAD because we are not directly or overtly threatened by Russia. Remember
the Cuban Missle Crisis? That was an example of MAD because both of us had guns to each other's
temples. In this case, while there's the lingering threat, nobody's willing to escalate and push
to the Nash equilibrium needed for a MAD scenario.
>>3125624
Dude, for someone that doesn't care about formatting, you're really butthurt about it. Get over
yourself, learn to write normally, and focus on the topic at hand.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:58:50 No.3125636
>>3125627
I'm gonna build on my original idea. What we could have done is invaded South America. Let Europe
work Europe out, and totally colonize the crap out of that whole land mass.
Can you imagine what a huge player that would have made us? Unstoppable. They couldn't fight
back, they had zero military potential. Nobody could have stopped us, they were all busy fighting
eachother.
At the end of it, we would have absolutely no enemies whatsoever in the eastern hemisphere
connected to us by land. They would have to cross the waters to get at us, and that takes a lot
of preparation, well enough time for us to see it coming.
Dangit.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/01/16(Mon)23:59:49 No.3125637
>>3125627
>>We shouldn't have gotten involved in WW2. Let Stalin fight Hitler, and Hitler fight Stalin, we
wait for the aftermath.
I...what? You do realize Pearl Harbor kinda happened, right?
>>You are relying on something outside of you you have no control over. That's not good. That's
never good.
Yeah, it's almost as if we were relying on...y'know...friends. But that's insane, right?
>>we're one of the biggest countries on earth in terms of land mass and population
Nope and nope. Sorry, but these are really grade-school level misconceptions. The biggest country
by landmass is Russia--how is that not obvious even from a cursory look at a map? The largest
population is China by a long shot. Not to be too harsh, but this is basic grade school stuff.
Think about that iPhone in your pocket. Yeah, you could get it all made in the US. It'd cost you
a very small fortune, because some countries are more efficient at making things than other
countries, whether by resources, population, knowhow, or some combination thereof.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:00:00 No.3125638
>>3125636
*western hemisphere* . Dunno why I said eastern.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:02:09 No.3125639
>>3125631
>If SK were to try and arm itself with offensive capabilities, North Korea would just start
bombing because it knows it'd be in a game it can't win.
Thats why I said japan and not sk. SK situation is much more volatile that that stable japan.
>then here in the US everyone would have guns and there would be no crime.
not really comparable to the concept of a nuclear conflict as MAD by definition means if you
attack you will die 100%, with guns there is always shoot first you win examples.
>We're currently not in MAD because we are not directly or overtly threatened by Russia
both the US and Russia have missiles that can reach each other at this moment, well enough to
destroy the vast majority of each nation, the issue with the CMS is that having missles that
close in large numbers violates MAD by creating the opportunity to neutralize your enemies
offensive capability in a overwhelming, almost no warning, first strike. That is why it was such
a big deal.
>>3125637
He means we were indirectly involved via economic sanctions along with sending the allies
military goods and supplies.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:02:30 No.3125640
>>3125637
The point I'm trying to make is that we are all connected in the planet, whether we like it or
not, whether we want to be or not. Our fates are permanently intertwined with each other, and
nothing and no country can stop it. If we step back, another country will willingly fill that
void, and what scares me is that that country in question will dictate global policy for a long
time to come, and may not adhere to libertarian values and *dare I say* moral principles as
America does.
We're not perfect (we're dicks, to invoke Team America), but goddammit, we're trying.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:03:04 No.3125642
>>3125637
>I...what? You do realize Pearl Harbor kinda happened, right?
Pearl Harbor was Japan. Our fight was with them. This is the same logic that had us target Saddam.
>Yeah, it's almost as if we were relying on...y'know...friends. But that's insane, right?
That is insane. You care about your interests most. Nobody cares about your interests more than
you, except maybe your parents. Since countries don't have biological parents, one should look
out for oneself first. It's nature's way.
?Nope and nope. Sorry, but these are really grade-school level misconceptions. The biggest
country by landmass is Russia--how is that not obvious even from a cursory look at a map? The
largest population is China by a long shot. Not to be too harsh, but this is basic grade school
stuff.
Think about that iPhone in your pocket. Yeah, you could get it all made in the US. It'd cost you
a very small fortune, because some countries are more efficient at making things than other
countries, whether by resources, population, knowhow, or some combination thereof.
C'mon dude, I said "one of the biggest", not biggest. You're intentionally misreading it.
Also, I don't use an iPhone, so doesn't effect me in the slightest. There are things I can't
afford in my current financial state, so I do not purchase them, and life goes on anyways.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:04:19 No.3125643
>>3125491
Ayy heres the song source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8QSwqs_2I0
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:06:06 No.3125646
>>3125642
>?Nope and nope. Sorry, but these are really grade-school level misconceptions. The biggest
country by landmass is Russia--how is that not obvious even from a cursory look at a map? The
largest population is China by a long shot. Not to be too harsh, but this is basic grade school
stuff.
>Think about that iPhone in your pocket. Yeah, you could get it all made in the US. It'd cost you
a very small fortune, because some countries are more efficient at making things than other
countries, whether by resources, population, knowhow, or some combination thereof.
C'mon dude, I said "one of the biggest", not biggest. You're intentionally misreading it.
Also, I don't use an iPhone, so doesn't effect me in the slightest. There are things I can't
afford in my current financial state, so I do not purchase them, and life goes on anyways.
Reddit formatting rekt my quotations, hopefully this post makes better sense.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:10:20 No.3125652
>>3125642
>Think about that iPhone in your pocket
you do know America used to produce over 50% of all the worlds good yes? there are plenty of
empty factories to be filled if we couldn't import anymore for whatever reason, also china's
economy is completely dependent on the US.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:11:15 No.3125653
>>3125642
>>Pearl Harbor was Japan. Our fight was with them. This is the same logic that had us target
Saddam.
I...don't know what to say. You really need to brush up on your history, buddy.
>>That is insane. You care about your interests most.
Are you serious? Not everything is a zero sum game where we are only winning if someone else is
losing. People can still benefit mutually, and more so together, which is why we have civil
society, and what forms the foundation of a country. How do those people inside a country get
along in the first place? Because they know that cooperation can help them achieve more than they
could apart. Pareto optimizations, man. One winner doesn't mean another loser.
>>Also, I don't use an iPhone, so doesn't effect me in the slightest. There are things I can't
afford in my current financial state, so I do not purchase them, and life goes on anyways.
>>missing the point of an example
Argh. Ok, fine, pick up any complex item, or even that computer you're typing on, and tell me how
it's made. American ideas and engineering, Chinese manufacturing, raw materials from South
America, Africa, and Asia most likely. See my point now? Big picture, mate.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:16:35 No.3125656
>>3125653
>I...don't know what to say. You really need to brush up on your history, buddy.
Japan struck us. Germany did not. You're not providing a counterargument, you're just insulting
me.
>>3125653
>Are you serious? Not everything is a zero sum game where we are only winning if someone else is
losing. People can still benefit mutually, and more so together, which is why we have civil
society, and what forms the foundation of a country. How do those people inside a country get
along in the first place? Because they know that cooperation can help them achieve more than they
could apart. Pareto optimizations, man. One winner doesn't mean another loser.
That is exactly what life is. People benefit mutually via self interest. I work my job, I get my
paycheck. That money furthers my self interests, my labor in exchange furthers the company
owner's self interest. If I cease acting in his self interest, he fires me and finds someone
else. If the boss stiffs me on my money, I say buh-bye and find different work.
Self interest is everything, and this weird hive-mind mentality of "make everybody benefit before
youself" only exists among those who have no more financial needs because their parents already
paved the way for them.
>>3125653
>Argh. Ok, fine, pick up any complex item, or even that computer you're typing on, and tell me
how it's made. American ideas and engineering, Chinese manufacturing, raw materials from South
America, Africa, and Asia most likely. See my point now? Big picture, mate.
Again. This is built from self interest. If we can make it on US soil, we should do that AND take
the tax money on the side. If we're already doing it on US soil, tariff the living daylights out
of foreign goods. That yields the most funds into our pockets. If we want it really bad, and for
whatever reason it is impossible to get it here, incentivize the crap out of it, and steal a
foreign company. I can't think of a single scenario where the last option has ever been necessary,
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:29:26 No.3125659
>>3125656
>>Japan struck us. Germany did not. You're not providing a counterargument, you're just insulting
me.
You're goddamn right I'm insulting you, because we need to establish a baseline of facts before
any reasonable informed discussion can take place. You do realize it was called a World War
because forces were allied with each other, right? You couldn't just selectively say "okay, we're
gonna fight Japan and Japan only and it'll be great" because Germany would (and did) declare war
on the US. Germany was defending its ally.
>>Again. This is built from self interest. If we can make it on US soil, we should do that AND
take the tax money on the side. If we're already doing it on US soil, tariff the living daylights
out of foreign goods.
This...this doesn't work economically. The price of everything would inflate dramatically because
it's simply not possible to make everything here and maintain current prices. Think about it on a
smaller scale: why don't you do everything yourself? Why don't you live off the land? You must
engage in trade because it's simply not possible to make and do everything yourself and keep it
all enclosed. Yeah, you can do everything yourself, but it's either going to take a long time or
not be as good as a specialized expert, which is why we have towns where some people become
expert ironsmiths and expert tailors and expert accountants. Take it back to the big picture, and
it's why we have countries that specialize in certain parts of the process.
>>That is exactly what life is. People benefit mutually via self interest. I work my job, I get
my paycheck.
You're arguing the same side as I am. It's to both my benefit and my boss's benefit if I work. I
get money, he gets shit done. Let's flip it over: It's both to my benefit and, for instance,
South Korea's benefit if I protect them; they give me access to their market and their capital,
and I give them protection in exchange. We both win. Nobody has to lose. That's the point.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:36:37 No.3125662
>>3125659
>You're goddamn right I'm insulting you, because we need to establish a baseline of facts before
any reasonable informed discussion can take place. You do realize it was called a World War
because forces were allied with each other, right? You couldn't just selectively say "okay, we're
gonna fight Japan and Japan only and it'll be great" because Germany would (and did) declare war
on the US. Germany was defending its ally.
I will pay money to see a source that says Germany send soldiers to Japan, because I have not
found any source that says we fought anyone but japs in the pacific. At most, there was the
occasional German U-Boat in the pacific. I have never read one account that said German soldiers
were present in Japanese territory fighting alongside them. Germany's declaration of war was
nothing more than that, a declaration. We beat Japan, we super consolidate the western
hemisphere, and we strike a peace deal with whoever won Europe.
>>3125659
>This...this doesn't work economically. The price of everything would inflate dramatically
because it's simply not possible to make everything here and maintain current prices. Think about
it on a smaller scale: why don't you do everything yourself? Why don't you live off the land? You
must engage in trade because it's simply not possible to make and do everything yourself and keep
it all enclosed. Yeah, you can do everything yourself, but it's either going to take a long time
or not be as good as a specialized expert, which is why we have towns where some people become
expert ironsmiths and expert tailors and expert accountants. Take it back to the big picture, and
it's why we have countries that specialize in certain parts of the process.
This does work economically, I'm living it, and the working class lives it every single day. We
were doing peachy until the free trade fanaticism. Unemployed people make for hungry people makes
for riots, and you can't employ people in jobs that only exist in China.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:38:18 No.3125663
>>3125662
>This does work economically, I'm living it, and the working class lives it every single day. We
were doing peachy until the free trade fanaticism. Unemployed people make for hungry people makes
for riots, and you can't employ people in jobs that only exist in China.
To build further on my point, we can and should do it in our own borders, because we were
definitely leading the world in technology. They needed us, we never needed them. Free trade
deals were purely and totally humanitarian, not practical in any way.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/16(Tue)00:46:40 No.3125665
>>3125570
nigger it's literally named "The Cockpit"
