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[_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)12:34:41 No.3149760
So the admin said that one thread on a board could be allowed to talk about the board, any
changes to the rules that people want enforced and any other meta stuff you can think of relating
to /f/.
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)12:34:54 No.3149761
Forgot link >>>/qa/677151
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:04:38 No.3149793
>>3149761
>>3149760
I vote increased flash limits, and less captcha!
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:07:01 No.3149794
/f/ is fine
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:07:29 No.3149795
Bigger amount of flashes on the page would be nice I suppose, assuming the posting limit stays
the same
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:08:37 No.3149796
Oh yeah, and new tags, such as [M] for music
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:12:57 No.3149798
Ban YouTube rips/videos encapsulated as swf.
There. I made /f/ as good as it can possibly get by making it about flashes again.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:14:08 No.3149799
>>3149798
I disagree, there's plenty of good videos/songs I'd never hear about unless shown here in /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:17:22 No.3149800
>>3149799
Then you should seek boards which are made for the purpose of sharing videos, such as /gif/ or
/wsg/.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:29:40 No.3149803
So does anyone want to actually change the rules on the rules page?
#1 seems to be disregarded the most, without punishment and I haven't seen anything personally
about #3 but some other anons have said they've gotten a ban from mistagging.
I think one change that I would enjoy is to be able to sort the posts by something other than the
bump order, which doesn't actually affect how flashes are deleted.
Easiest way to change that without adding the drop down menu that is on other boards in the
catalog view is to make it sort the board by which column header that you click on, with the
empty ones returning it back to bump limit.
>>3149795
Does five more sound good? Bringing it to 35 OP threads possible in total? Any larger and it will
start to be impossible to view the whole board in one screen.
>>3149794
I do think /f/ is pretty isolated from the moderation drama that people are talking about on
/qa/, some stuff like >>3149796, and >>3149793 are talking about good changes.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:33:52 No.3149806
My biggest gripe is the file size. 10 megs hasn't been enough for a LONG time. Of course, given
the traffic this board gets, there may not be enough justification for increasing it.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:37:41 No.3149807
>>3149806
What do you want to post that 10MB just isn't enough?
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:41:12 No.3149809
>>3149807
Tron: Legacy
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:42:03 No.3149810
>>3149807
higher quality youtuberips
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:51:53 No.3149812
>>3149810
go away
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)14:53:10 No.3149813
>>3149812
make me
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:13:01 No.3149818
I have mixed feelings about making the size limit larger than 10MB.
I have run into cases where I've had to sacrifice quality in loops (that aren't converted videos
but use individual frames) to fit under the limit, but generally 10MB is enough.
I think increasing the allowed size will be less helpful to actual flash content and will instead
be utilized mostly for >>3149810
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:16:19 No.3149819
>>3149803
>I think one change that I would enjoy is to be able to sort the posts by something other than
the bump order, which doesn't actually affect how flashes are deleted.
Just use http://catalog.neet.tv/f/
I think changing the rules would be a waste of time; the only ones on /f/ who seem to care about
the rules are the occasional newfag /v/ermin forumsliders. Although you could always change the
rules to actually reflect /f/ as it is.
But still, any changes should be more about quality of life, like amount of flashes or filesize.
Although if you do up the filesize, you should probably also do something about captcha, so that
people can actually upload successfully before the captcha session runs out.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:18:30 No.3149820
>>3149803
Part of the problem is that I'm not even sure that /f/ has mods dedicated to it. It feels to me
like most of the moderation that takes place on /f/ is the result of a passing mod from another
board who stops in once a month to clean this place up.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:23:47 No.3149822
>>3149819
>http://catalog.neet.tv/f/
>an actual catalog view of /f/
I'd be nice to be able to view the board like this normally
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:28:08 No.3149824
>>3149820
The boganing made it abundantly clear that not only does /f/ not have a mod, but that the
moderation team in general have literally forgotten that /f/ even exists.
Also, the only things I've ever seen get deleted was ponyshit and malware, so I think it's safe
to say that the only time a mod even comes to /f/ is when something gets reported enough times.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:36:47 No.3149828
>>3149798
Run of the mill videos that aren't particularly noteworthy, yeah. especially letsplay's vlogs
preachy crap about the sorry state of modern politics.
>>It was bad before but previous generations didn't have this identity politics/SOCJUS horse shit
something that is timeless or little known maybe squeeze under the youtube rip restriction
But back in the day it was pretty rare to get a made in flash SWF under 10mb and new flashes rely
more on the technical aspect to loop better or have HD image without the video compression blur.
Flash is not a hard program to get and clones like koolmoves that make a true swf aren't hard to
geteither, you can get an old copy of flash for less than $15, or do what you want because a
pirate is free....
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:42:37 No.3149830
BAN FAGGOTS THAT SHITPOST CANCER LIKE "HAT" AND THAT KIND OF SHIT EVERY FUCKING DAY
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:57:29 No.3149838
Global rule 3 (specifically no grotesque/furry/loli/shota) needs to be enforced.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)15:59:44 No.3149839
I like /f/ the way it is. Daily doses, memes, OC, music loops and weeb shit. Doesn't really need
changing. It has a good balance of strange shit and quality shit to keep me interested.
>>3149819
Thanks anon for http://catalog.neet.tv/f/
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:07:13 No.3149841
[M] tag added.
Time needed to post again raised to 48 hours.
Trips not allowed anymore.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:08:45 No.3149843
>>3149841
Also if you faggots want to raise the limit from 10mb you need to start banning any youtube rips.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:10:30 No.3149846
Please no changes. Especially no new tags.
Leave /f/ the sacred untouched time-capsule/sanctuary it is.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:17:17 No.3149849
File size is fine, it used to be something like 6MB and that definitely wasn't enough, the 10MB
limit makes it pretty flexible, though maybe bumping it a bit more like 12MB-15MB could be good,
but its alright the way it is now so it really doesn't need a change.
What really needs needs to happen is the board should get back to something like the old file
limit (4 per day instead of 2) and repost timer (the time between posts was pretty short but it
used to be something like a week before you could post the same file again, unlike now where its
once a day) because seeing the same shit every single day every single week gets really tiresome.
Flashes like potato knishes or that one idiot who posted saying his dog died every single day for
nearly a month just shit up an already slow board. For anyone wanting daily dose type flashes
there's so many versions of the usual stuff like lolicatgirls and piccolodick there's no need to
post the same flash every day. It doesn't necessarily have to go back to the repost limit of a
whole week, but the way things are the same flashes just keep getting posted over and over, and
it would be nice to have the board get a bit more variety.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:17:37 No.3149850
>>3149846
>especially no tags
look at this nigger right here
Only new tag we need is [m]. Other than that, no more tripfags and we need somebody to ban shitty
yt rips.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:18:55 No.3149851
>>3149850
also as >>3149849 said we need longer cooldown times for each flash
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)16:53:22 No.3149866
Tell the admin is /f/ even relevant in this day and age?
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)17:16:38 No.3149869
More tags, something to do with limiting reposts to be weekly or whatever. But mostly ban youtube
rips and other videos, since /wsg/ has taken that mantle, and it is now redundant in /f/.
Allow non-swf filetypes that allow interactivity, like whatever the equivalent in html-5 is. As
long as straight-up videos are bannable, this should set /f/ apart as it should be done.
Make /f/ look like the other boards; 10 pages, visible threads. Still only one flash per thread
though. Server size is cheaper, so no more need for the limited style.
And did I mention to ban youtube rips?
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)17:41:57 No.3149876
Half of the best content you see on /f/ includes some form of video and video has always been
allowed.
You can't ban or limit it.
For those who can't ignore an occasional stupid ytrip please get over your autism.
The board has been a mix of things for many years now.
Anyway the board is fine the way it is I think though I would personally like to see the filesize
limit raised to 15 or 20mb.
Would give users much more flexibility especially on video flashes where higher quality and
longer times would become available.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)17:45:25 No.3149879
>>3149869
Unity3D and Silverlight were Dead on arrival and Html-5 is to big a security risk.
Shock wave player is practically extinct so is java(security nightmare)
SWF has everything you need and the only way they spread viruses is by linking to malicious sites
which new security features have been developed to stop this, and most virus proliferaters don't
bother with flash anymore on any serious scale
Everything you need to make a game without the programming features needed to make a virus, it
won its monopoly by mere natural selection.
Html-5 video only became big due to YouTube gaining a monopoly and entropy of the flash sites,
plus apple and later android decelerating war on flash
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)17:46:55 No.3149880
>>3149806
It's not the filesize. I CAN'T UPLOAD PAST 4MB BECAUSE MY INTERNET IS SHIT.
Fix the captcha's upload time beyond the one we have.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)17:49:30 No.3149882
>>3149876
The best compromise would be a restriction on certain types of youtube video,
Within reason of course!
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:08:54 No.3149886
>>3149880
>>3149880
>>3149880
>>3149880
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:26:54 No.3149891
>>3149824
the fuck is the boganing
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:33:04 No.3149892
i like /f/ the way it is
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:36:55 No.3149894
>>3149882
I don't really see the need.
I might be alone in this but I have always felt that part of /f/'s charm is its laidback nature
and the fact that we can generally self-moderate ourselves, that we can deal with the occasional
faggotry without whining for mommy & daddy.
I like the relaxed moderation and though it can very occasionally lead to some bouts of intense
shitposting in general the board chugs along smoothly without issue and after some pruning
regular life resumes.
I dunno... thats just me.
I know some take shit here very seriously and want only flashes from 20 years allowed and 10 year
post timers yeesh.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:42:27 No.3149897
>>3149803
>Does five more sound good? Brining it to 35 OP threads possible in total? Any larger and it will
start to be impossible to view the whole board in one screen.
Sure, sounds good enough.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:44:30 No.3149898
>>3149843
honestly, this is one of the biggest issues with having the file size larger, besides the fact
this board doesn't get as much traffic as others do.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:46:25 No.3149900
>>3149798
Congrats, you killed /f/! Disallowing embedded videos would be a terrible, terrible idea.
>>3149803
Rule #1 has to go.
Rule #2 is not needed, since it's about copyright and is covered by Global rule #1.
/f/ needs to get a pass on Global rule #3 since you can't upload loli/guro/furry flashes to /b/.
Make it clear in the rules that of course all kinds of content is allowed on /f/ so that a mod
that doesn't understand /f/ comes along and band people for something that mods on /f/ have been
ignoring for years upon years.
Tagging flashes on /f/ should NOT be taken seriously. Renaming and tagging incorrectly is part of
our culture and is done for the lulz, everybody that hasn't been here for the shortest time
understand that tags aren't to be taken seriously.
I've been annoyed at the Porn tag ever since it was added. We have a Hentai tag, the Porn tag is
not needed (any kind of difference between the two is subjective and just depends on the feeling
of the uploader).
Most important: Increase upload size limit to 20 MiB!
There are SO many great flashes we haven't been able to post just because of this outdated limit.
Real flashes, not embedded videos...
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)18:56:30 No.3149905
>>3149819
>Just use http://catalog.neet.tv/f/
Nah I'd rather have the stuff I suggested built into /f/ rather than going to some third-party
website.
>>3149824
>boganing
Huh, well the only posts archived under 4plebs using that word are yours and >>3149891 please
explain.
>>3149866
Who cares it it's relevant, I'd still like a few changes for the better even if people have
forgotten about it.
>>3149869
>Allow non-swf filetypes
No, I don't agree with that. I'd rather have a separate board for each filetype if you were going
to do something like that.
I also like /f/'s unique look since you can see the whole board at once, whereas the standard
catalog or page view formats don't allow this.
>>3149900
Oh I know that tags aren't take seriously, just heard from some anon a few months back that he
had gotten a ban for mistagging. Just because they aren't take seriously by most people shouldn't
mean we can't have more tags though.
I think that any changes to the rules will eventually draw attention to /f/ from other places, so
think carefully. Dropping GR#3 from /f/ will give people the idea that /f/ is the place to swap
and spam loli/guro/furry flashes and to link to it from places like /b/, drawing in too many new
people at one time.
I do like the limit idea, although like others pointed out the captcha needs to be fixed.
>>3149882
I could see the restriction of .swfs that are just embedded youtube videos but if you go much
further then mods/jannitors are needed and it becomes a drama fest like other boards are having.
>> [_] !EhR5ie4bf6 09/17/16(Sat)18:56:55 No.3149906
Remove captcha, to this day I don't understand why it would be introduced right after it was
removed.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:01:17 No.3149909
>>3149900
TL;DR
The only three "rules" /f/ should have are these:
1. Don't upload anything that violates copyright.
2. Don't upload redirectors or exploits (such as popup spawners).
3. All other flash content is allowed, including loli/shota, furry and guro.
This would preserve what has been /f/ for the last 9 years (that's how long I've been here, can't
speak for before 2007).
Most important is an increase in upload size though, 20 MiB would cover almost everything.
There's no reason to worry about YouTube rips, people that mention that don't know what they are
talking about. The exact same amount of rips will continue to be uploaded, just in better
quality. It would only enable us to post all these actual flashes we have been wanting to upload
for all these years. (Seriously stop whining about YouTube rips, they won't increase in count,
just in visual quality.)
>>3149906
Also this. Captcha was never needed on /f/. We did not have spam. Captcha was added to /f/
several months after it was added to the rest of 4chan and we STILL didn't get spam on /f/... It
was never needed on /f/, full stop.
This thread is about to 404, really hope you see this...
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:03:41 No.3149914
>>3149909
>2. Don't upload redirectors or exploits (such as popup spawners).
I love getting hit by those desu. /f/ is actually the only place that happens now..
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:06:50 No.3149916
>>3149905
>/f/ is the place to swap and spam loli/guro/furry flashes and to link to it from places like
/b/, drawing in too many new people at one time.
You are overrating the value of flash in 2016, these days there aren't enough people around to
swarm into /f/. Modern people just want images and videos instead of glorious swf files. There
aren't even that many loli/guro/furry flashes around and those that are gets posted today anyway
by the few that actually want the content at the same time as they care about flash.
I'm really worried that this change will fuck up and kill /f/ by bringing in mods that have no
idea how /f/ has been running all these years, ignoring the rules. Unless the change is done
right (by removing all the rules and allowing all flash content).
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:07:23 No.3149917
>>3149807
I'd like zone to be able to post his larger releases on here.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:11:18 No.3149919
>>3149916
Yeah, maybe I'm overracting, I just don't want tons of people to come here once they hear about a
rule change and then get spammed with a shitty meme since none of them will bother to make new
flashes or post quality stuff.
I should probably just tell Hiro to make the change quietly and not tell any Mods, since any
dedicated one's would ruin the board eventually.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:14:58 No.3149920
Please do not exclude /f/ from global rule 3, it will just get the board overrun with loli and
guro spam - I think it would make the board worse for sure.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:16:43 No.3149921
>>3149919
Even if there would be a bunch of people going "hey lets spam /f/ with loli, furry and guro" (and
that's a big if) the 'pissing in a sea of piss' would apply.
They spam the page full of flashes, requiring a lot more work than spamming images i might add.
Then what? It's not like they will get any lulz out of it, it won't even be a month until all
spammers are tired and gone. So we get maybe a week of spam in return for rules that makes sense
and will protect /f/ forever. Sounds like a good deal to me.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:17:56 No.3149922
>>3149846
>no changes
This desu - I can't think of any changes that wouldn't make this board worse. Definitely don't
change the layout, 7chan's flash board tries 'normal' threads and it's not as good.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:19:06 No.3149923
>>3149921
Agreed.
I've rarely seen spammers last more then even a day.
They just get bored usually quite quickly if people are smart and ignore their attention whoring.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:21:32 No.3149926
I'll say my request to add like 30 minutes of life to a thread after you've made a post (if the
thread is marked for deletion).
I really dislike when you're having a conversation with someone on /f/ and the thread 404s right
after (or even before) you post something that took a while to write. Then you go to the board
and there are a ton of 0 reply threads wasting space that could have been deleted instead. Please
prioritize active threads, at least 30 minutes after a post was added!
>>3149923
And /f/ is hard to spam since you need a swf, most spammers won't even know what kind of "image
format" that is supposed to be.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:21:47 No.3149927
>>3149921
I do agree that spamming here is very difficult, I'm the Chill Monday guy and posting 5 flashes
takes forever. I guess the real concern is attracting moderation drama.
>>3149922
So would upping the filesize limit or fixing the captcha so that someone can post regardless of
their internet speed make this board worse?
I don't see the [M] tag really hurting anything either, unless you can think of a reason?
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:22:29 No.3149928
>>3149760
The official rules of the board are more or less ignored, but if there's any changes made they'll
still be ignored so I don't see much use in trying to make /f/ something else. It's fine as it
is, best board on this site.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:25:52 No.3149931
I want the American tag.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:26:31 No.3149932
>>3149928
Posting actual CP won't be ignored, it's more like making the rules fit how /f/ works and not the
other way around.
There are some minor issues that do need fixing, like the captcha problem or size limit, but I
generally agree with you.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/17/16(Sat)19:27:36 No.3149933
>>3149846
>>3149922
No changes would be fine if it was guaranteed that /f/ was left alone and no future mod ever
cared about the rules. I'm worried that it won't happen, ergo the three "rules" in >>3149909
>>3149927
I can think of a reason, a "Music" tag encourages music-only flashes with a still image. Way
worse than any YouTube rip. If you want to share a good song, make a [L] flash like you know you
should.
"Loop" is the "Music" tag on /f/. Loops are basically our strongest type of flash, it's what we
the posters on /f/ actually make our own original content of.
