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[_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)09:10:22 No.3254739
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:02:18 No.3254754
Seen both the full interview and the class in the us university. Very illuminating but bitter, a
shame he hasn't been taken seriously back then.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:08:16 No.3254756
>>3254739
what did he mean by this?
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:11:35 No.3254757
>>3254756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd
To disrupt the common tradition of a nation, making it weaker and in conflict with itself,
exactly what's happening right now.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:35:33 No.3254760
>>3254757
part of the problem is you're not seeing your own culpability in this, right now.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:42:31 No.3254762
>>3254757
Video does not exist.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:42:47 No.3254763
It's stupid how conspiracy theorists still use this guy's old theories for the modern world. It's
so complex now that it's not about Russian spies infiltrating USA like back in the Cold War days.
It's gone far beyond that, it's global and it's everyone doing it to everyone else without even
realizing it. Every major military intelligence has already done a lot of research on what is now
being coined "Memetic Warfare". We're in it right now; without even noticing we're already
fighting wars on the internet psychologically using memes as virtual weapons. Take a look at
society, we are more detached from one another than ever before.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)11:44:07 No.3254764
>>3254760
In that case every political sheep is guilty, unless you live in total anarchy (and i mean grow
your
own food and live by yourself). Ofc now i'm gonna wait for conspiracyfag to jump out.
>>3254762
They removed that, how nice. Here's another link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)12:49:57 No.3254772
>>3254763
the Cold War rhetoric may be outdated, but his main point still holds true: Academia nowadays are
little more than propaganda pushers, it's exactly why all these braindead liberals are so
indoctrinated in college campuses about "social politics", and why they go through such a culture
shock when they either graduate or drop out and realize that reality is incompatible with their
hugboxes.
But instead of realizing their mistakes, they double down further and perceive the world around
them as wrong, backwards, incorrect, which is why they start and push all these social justice
movements. Protests, voting for the most lefty and minority pandering candidates that promises
FREE SHIT FOR ALL (because they can't provide for themselves and turn to daddy govt.), riots,
we're seeing all of them right now.
The cancer starts in academia, the professors are leftover hippies and 2nd wave feminists from
the past decades, soon they'll be replaced (they already are) by more extremist, radical leftists
to pump more """tolerant""" garbage into the next generation.
You may think of this as Alex Jones-tier conspiracy theory, but think carefully about the past 4
years, why, when and where did the SJW trend suddenly come from and massively exploded in
popularity? The elections put them into the spotlight, virtually everyone knows about PC police
now
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)13:22:14 No.3254776
>>3254772
>past four years
Just the lastest step in a long march to decay an decadence. Those hippies and second wave
feminists were earlier steps and just as dangerous then. Academia was infiltrated by the USSR in
the 60s, the cold war point isnt outdated at all (other than that it's no longer russia pulling
the strings) because it's that influence that lasts to this day. The USSR fell, but it's agents,
it's subverters did not. They continued without a state, but certainly not without support.
George Soros is a particularly visible supporter of this movement. He funds universties around
the world and they spew marxist propaganda, his NGOs organise protests for social change which
have engineered revolutions (Serbia 2000, Ukraine 2014, Arab Spring 2011) and are working on
more. Been very active in america since the election.
And a lot of it leads back to students - their recruits and pawns.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)14:01:10 No.3254780
I'm shocked by the conversation. I thought everyone on /f/ was an overstimulated drooling aspie
Anyway my 2 cents are that Russia is still a geopolitical power, and still benefits from America
in chaos. A nation that has internal problems has difficulty maintaining a geopolitical presence.
Source: history (for example England couldn't really get into its overseas colonies until its
internal conflicts were mostly over)
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)14:25:08 No.3254782
>>3254739
So basically Russia is puppeting the US by manipulating the election to put their boy Trump in
power? How are they getting so many people to reject the fact that they influenced the election
though? Hordes of facebook drones?
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)14:50:10 No.3254786
>>3254782
except trump is anti-cuck. Ideological subversion (as explained in the video) is all about being
a massive cuck (not sticking up for yourself, your family, your nation). You have been proven
wrong, you dumb bitch. go back to the drawing board please.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)15:18:18 No.3254792
>>3254786
You clearly weren't even listening to the video, it's about spreading misinformation so that
people believe in something despite all of the evidence pointing elsewhere.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)15:35:07 No.3254794
>>3254782
No.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)15:37:55 No.3254796
>>3254792
You clearly weren't even listening to the congressional oversight committee hearings. Trump is
clear, deep state is not.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)16:06:54 No.3254800
>>3254792
You forced me to watch it again just to write it all out for your stupid ass.
>a SLOW PROCESS, which we call either ideological subversion, or Active Measures in the language
of the KGB, or psychological warfare.
>What it basically means is to change the perception of reality, of every American, to such an
extent, that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions
in the interest of defending themselves, their family, their community, and their country.
What you are implying, which is that people are being brainwashed to ignore that trump is a
puppet of Russia, is not a SLOW PROCESS. It is something that would have just started recently.
For conservatives, supporting Trump is a sensible conclusion in the interest of defending
themselves, their family, their community, and their country. Trump is patriotic, he brings jobs
back, he deports mexicans, he hates fags. And he has proven to act consistently toward those
goals.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)16:07:55 No.3254801
>>3254772
>Academia nowadays are little more than propaganda pushers
Hard STEM is still pure. They've been trying to fuck it up for years with "feminist math" and the
like, but it's never taken hold, because the same kind of retards who push that kind of stuff are
far too retarded to make it in STEM fields.
There's some fraying around the edges with stuff like sociology, however.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)16:09:49 No.3254802
>>3254780
>>3254782
Russia objectively has nothing to do with us.
If there were a single real reason to interact with Russia, it would be to bro-out while bombing
ISIS together.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)16:09:58 No.3254803
>>3254792
PS where were you liberals during the mccarthy era or the cold war? Constantly shilling for
russia and communism and defending obvious agents. Only now that a patriotic person is in power
do you switch the tables and claim he's russian influenced. You guys only care for ideology and
not for country.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)17:34:36 No.3254815
>>3254803
It's such a weird narrative to push, too.
>Donald Trump is randomly a secret Russian operative out to sell United States to Putin.
Like, where would he have even obtained this job from? Has he even met Putin in person? What
makes anyone think Russia could afford to pay him any more than he makes from his own business
empire in a day?
If you wanted to push a narrative about him selling out to another country, why not pick Israel?
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)18:15:26 No.3254821
>>3254815
>randomly
Trump and his son have both confirmed that they've received a lot of money from Russia. I don't
know if it's from the Russian state or from Russian investors, but Trump would not have recovered
from his bankruptcies if it weren't for Russia.
>>3254800
Who said that had to have started recently? I hate to pull the strawman card, but that's a
strawman.
If Russia has some kind of large scale internet propaganda machine, then it has been going on for
years if not decades.
Do you remember the save Donbass people movement? Russia invaded Ukraine, and then shortly after,
social media was hammered with #savedonbasspeople, an emotion-driven pro-russia anti-ukraine
movement aimed at changing western perception of what was happening in Ukraine.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)20:10:51 No.3254847
>>3254821
So what's the endgame? Trump is president now, how does Russia benefit?
>demands NATO members meet 2% defence spending pledge
>bombs assad
>sends more troops to polish border
And Trump has done business with and recieved money from every civilised country there is.
>trump would not have recovered from his bankruptcies if it weren't from russia
[citation needed]
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)21:21:07 No.3254861
>>3254800
>this is an exclusively KGB tactic that could in no way be used by anyone else ever, it's their
exclusive IP and the KGB will sue the CIA if they think they're using it
Yeah ok
My immediate thoughts when listening to this is that this is what /pol/ has been sucked and
fucked into thinking, they're so afraid of actual evidence because "it's all lefty bullshit, fuck
them for wanting to try build a better future. T-Trickle down economics fellas, let's put the
face of big business into power because t-that's exactly the kinda guy that's gonna care about
us" that they're running to source-less graphs on the internet with a fucking frog on it as some
kind of seal of approval
Despite the abundance of research right in front of their eyes, they've been subverted in such a
way that they'll refuse to read it and instead look for information elsewhere
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)21:55:25 No.3254871
>>3254772
>past 4 years
40
ftfy
This has been going on hardcore since the cultural revolutions of the 60s, though it was
initiated a century earlier in an organized form by Marx and Engels. They basically distilled
Machiavellian philosophy int a methodology for the 'everyman'.
Now look where we are.
Pay very close attention to the concept presented here, it is at the crux of the dysfunction, we
are living it now.
This is what's embodied by the recent term 'FAKE NEWS'.
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)22:03:55 No.3254873
>>3254800
>...is that people are being brainwashed to ignore that trump is a puppet of Russia...
You see, if you examine it carefully, that this is exactly OPPOSITE of what is the truth. You
display in textbook fashion the belief in misinformation, taking fact for fantasy and vice-versa
which is being discussed here.
Why are people seemingly forever doomed not to notice the Emperor's "New Clothes" DO NOT IN FACT
EXIST? It's right there before your eyes!
Re-read that fable (if you ever have before) very carefully, it's as true now as then, if not
more so!
>> [_] Anonymous 06/18/17(Sun)22:45:11 No.3254900
There is a reason that America is leftist now and Russia is nationalist. Both countries subverted
each other during the cold war to try and break the other. The Soviets broke first, but they also
did irreparable damage to the USA.
