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[_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)21:25:25 No.3270450
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>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)21:29:08 No.3270453
only thing bad about them is the jobs they are taking away
eventually it'll be cheaper for mcdonalds to replace 90% of their staff with robots. could be
done today but the initial hardware purchase is still too expensive, when it gets down to them
making the money back in just 5 years the jobs will be going bye bye
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)21:52:03 No.3270460
I can't wait for self-checkout to be history.
Maddox got it right, but he forgot to mention that more than half the price of the groceries go
to fuel the store and its employees' paychecks... the employees who are getting paid not to check
your items.
Items rung up at self-checkout should be significantly cheaper.
Good riddance, I say.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)21:59:51 No.3270465
>more than half the price
surely you mean more than half the profit? grocery stores often buy from distributors who are a
sort of middlemen. look at this thin profit margin https://ycharts.com/companies/WMT/profit_m
argin as an example
>> [_] friendsofsandwiches 08/07/17(Mon)22:28:37 No.3270479
The problem with self checkout lanes rests entirely on inventory processing.
Something not in inventory? SOL.
I remember seeing a commercial about...3-4 years ago(?) where it looked like this guy was
shoplifting, putting stuff in his jacket, had on a hoodie, all that. He passed by the register
that was unmanned, and the register ran up his food items, and then scanned his phone or
something, and it was all paid for.
Until a store gets to the point where the system KNOWS where each and every item is in it's stock
and store, this will NEVER work.
Groceries and other weight variable items will of course, require someone to check them out.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)22:34:10 No.3270484
>>3270450
no one uses self checkout for speed, they use it because they don't want to talk to someone when
they need to buy milk or something at midnight
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)22:42:02 No.3270487
itt people underestimating technology. these things arent going anywhere and will improve
greatly. usage will only increase as they get cheaper.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)22:59:42 No.3270498
Yeah they suck, but they're cheaper to the store and people willingly choose to use them. That's
it.
>>3270479
Check out the amazon go store
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)23:05:43 No.3270500
>>3270450
its called don't be retarded
>> [_] Anonymous 08/07/17(Mon)23:33:24 No.3270506
Maddox has it wrong.
Self-checkout has absolutely nothing to do with making things faster. It's about making your
customer work for you so you don't need to pay an employee.
It's the exact same thing with touch screen ordering at a Mc Donalds or whatever. No, a robot
isn't replacing your job. McDonalds is just taking the touch screen you already use and turning
it around and making the customer push the buttons so they don't have to pay an employee.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)00:08:30 No.3270514
>>3270450
holy fuck this guy is a giagantic douche
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:07:22 No.3270542
>>3270450
I have never once had problems with them.
They work, the problem, like most things involving computers, is with the user.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:09:10 No.3270543
>>3270460
They are? The price of all their goods is reduced by the number of people they are no longer
hiring to do the job.
Heck, getting that price reduction is the main reason they wanted to switch, it makes them look
more appealing because "cheaper than competitor"
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:14:30 No.3270545
why isnt someone doing a /f/ only webshow? it would be nice to have some kind of 4chan news thing
every week on here. Would make /f/ a lot less shitty
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:18:00 No.3270546
>>3270453
my local mcdonalds already has these giant ipads on the walls that let you order your shit
without ever interacting with another human being.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:34:22 No.3270547
>>3270484
I use it for speed, but I also worked at a grocery store, and thus, know how to operate one
near-lightning fast.
If you know what the next step is you don't have to wait for it to tell you to do it. And if you
know what makes it fuss, like say, taking bags away when you haven't payed yet, you can just
avoid those behavior and never have to deal with it getting fussy.
Both together means you almost never run into problems and nothing takes longer than the minimum
amount of time it takes you to swipe an item over the scanner once and get it in a bag.
I can get done in literal seconds. As such, waiting for one of those register jockeys to
lackadaisically meander their way through it, bruising my bananas in the process while making
obnoxious smalltalk drives me up the wall, meaning the only time I ever use normal checkout is
when I'm at a grocer that won't let you scan your own coupons, like Kroger, because the only
thing more annoying than waiting on a register clerk is waiting on whatever trained monkey they
assigned to U-Scan to wake up, remember they have a job they're supposed to be doing, and after
continuing to sit inert for an absurdly long time despite the "assistance needed" alert blaring
away, that I can only conclude is them hoping I'll go away and they can go back to spacing out,
eventually bite the bullet and waddle their jiggling thunderthighs over to my station and proceed
to fail to scan my coupon three times before finally getting it right.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:36:11 No.3270548
>>3270546
and yet they still find a way to get your order wrong.
It never ceases to amaze me.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:38:16 No.3270549
>>3270545
I'd do it, I have the skillset and need the practice, but I only really visit like, 34 boards, so
wouldn't really be informed or qualified to talk news for the whole site.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:48:22 No.3270550
>>3270549
Do it on /wsg/ then, bigger filesize. Everyone will still call you a faggot, though.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)02:49:58 No.3270551
>>3270549
*3-4 boards
>> [_] friendsofsandwiches 08/08/17(Tue)02:58:46 No.3270554
>>3270547
We used to have one of the jiggle boys, someone who's over 300lb, on the off hours, we get the
crack granny.
All the carr/safeway stores up here got rid of self checkout... except ONE.
The store where we literally have the most shootings at.
Store employee and managers both want to just shut the store down at 10pm, maybe 11, but upper
management says they want it open 24 hours.
Oh, the only reason they haven't gotten rid of the self checkout stands is because they want to
keep the software used for it.
Which, by the way, is why the chip card readers will not read the chips in the cards.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)03:14:11 No.3270557
>>3270554
Oh yeah, if there's anything I've seen it's that bad management is one of the biggest problem
facing most modern grocers, and likeliest reason for anything not working or inconvenient.
Sometimes it's store manager. Sometimes regional. occasionally it goes all the way up to
corporate. Sometimes it's just the department manager. Often it's multiple levels at once, each
coming up with hare-brained solutions to solve the problems caused by their bosses' hare-brained
solutions, repeat indefinitely until you finally reach one guy who just decided to change
something on more or less an uninformed whim.
You wanna talk automation? I can't WAIT until THEY get replaced by something digital,
coordinated, and competent. Fixing that is gonna save them more time and money than any
ground-level replacement ever will, just by way of eliminating all that chaos and waste.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)03:36:53 No.3270559
>>3270450
They were fine until chip readers became a thing.
God they are slow.
I miss doing a quick swipe and done.
now the self checkout has a line of people behind it every day.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)03:47:12 No.3270561
>>3270506
>>3270484
not quite.
If you have a single item or only a few, self checkout is the best bet as those with a mountain
of groceries/clothes/ect are going to want help scanning/bagging and you have to potentially wait
behind them to scan your bag of chips or whatever.
Most self checkouts have a limit I.E. 12 items or fewer.
the problem lies with human potatoes, old farts who can't learn, and shitty software, especially
the software..
as I stated already, chip readers(at least where I live) are bringing the whole thing to a halt.
They (self checkouts) also make you wait a moment before scanning the next item, unlike the fast,
regular aisle scanning.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:06:31 No.3270566
>>3270561
>make you wait a moment
Our walmart's does that, but none of the rest do.
I think it's just a bad hardware/software thing as well.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:06:31 No.3270567
Almost none of the problems this video describes fucking exist and I'm going to chalk them up to
what it ALWAYS fucking is when people complain about how hard something is to do: RETARDED USER
ERROR. I've worked enough past years in customer support to recognize someone super butthurt
about a system he thinks was designed specifically to make his life difficult and wants nothing
more than to bitch as loud as he can, when it was really all his own fault for failing to grasp
basic, obvious shit that the vast majority of people don't have such a fucking problem with. I'm
ready to believe that a dumbass who has made a career out of being an obnoxious complainer, who
thinks his opinion is so important he'll stand up and tell everyone who like pepperoni pizza that
THEY'RE the ones who are dumb, was also too stupid to know how to properly look up right kind of
produce and blamed the world around him for it.
Every single self-checkout station I've ever been to has been overwhelmingly faster than a
cashier. If there EVEN IS A LINE AT ALL, it moves significantly faster because it tends to form
at the same length as the lines for the regular cashiers, only there are 4+ kiosks constantly
freeing up to keep the line moving. Not to mention how low the bar is for cashiers, whether
they're completely new or just don't give a shit, meaning the odds are way too high you'll hop
into a lane that has a cashier content to move at a snail's pace. Not to mention that in a
self-checkout, people who have extremely full carts and need a lot of extra time don't clog up
one lane for everyone, there are lots of other kiosks that will free up around them. Since I
moved a couple of years ago, and my nearest grocer did NOT have a self-c/o lane, it's pretty much
guaranteed that checkout is going to be excruciatingly long.
Probably the only thing potentially true is the statistic about shoplifting, and I'm not trying
to hand-wave the job replacement issue, but fuck off Maddox oh my god.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:07:10 No.3270568
maddox lost
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:17:50 No.3270569
The only time I ever prefer to use these is if I am buying 1 or 2 items that won't require
additional steps to scan, i.e. Redbull or a bag of chips. Otherwise, I much prefer going through
a regular checkout lane. Self checkouts are the IRL version of those fucking god-awful automatons
on the phone that tell you to press *insert number* 50 fucking times before you can even reach a
person. The difference is, pressing 0 usually gets rid of the automatons. There's no "press 0"
option to make self checkouts any more efficient. Overall, Maddox is right and they're garbage.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:21:50 No.3270571
>>3270546
Same. Coloradofag here, and ever since people voted to increase minimum wage by 50% in just a few
years a lot of fast food jobs have been mechanized.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:36:08 No.3270577
>>3270568
cuz his problems fucking suck
$20,111
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:38:38 No.3270579
>>3270571
so there ya go, pushes progress one way or the other. it's a win win.
For the worker, they either pay you something you can live on or acknowledge they never had any
intention of being responsible masters and taking care of you and fire you, allowing you to pull
unemployment.
The business either pays you your due, or invests in robots pushing us one step closer to fully
automated luxury gay space communism.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)04:51:51 No.3270580
>>3270559
yeah, that extremely better and more secure way of purchasing stuff that has been in europe for
like 8 years now is just horrible. we should bring back the swipe.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)05:01:21 No.3270582
>>3270580
It's actually true.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)05:16:00 No.3270584
You can easily just fill up your cart with .36c ramen noodle cups and then grab yourself a few
other groceries. Just scan the ramen and pretend to scan your other items and toss them in the
bag, pick it up, repeat. There, you now have $60 worth of groceries for $5.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)05:33:48 No.3270587
>>3270450
>Maddox is too much of a sperg to figure out how to work a self-checkout
Wow. No wonder he's such a pants-wetting cuck. What a little bitch.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)05:55:09 No.3270588
>>3270450
>Maddox
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)05:56:53 No.3270589
>>3270584
Pretty sure some stores have attendants to protect against that sort of thing.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)06:03:58 No.3270590
>>3270453
I always wonder how long it will be for humanity to achieve post work society. Continuous
automation will reach the critical point in the near future. Before that the society needs some
kind of global welfare or we are going to encounter the worst poverty that has ever existed.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)07:08:08 No.3270596
>>3270549
Get a team, ya dummy
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)07:11:23 No.3270598
>>3270584
Store workers can very easily pick up on this. I remember at my work place, several stock boxes
of baby powder would be purchased from Chinese customers, which would be then sold elsewhere.
Since then, there have been limits to how many you can buy.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)07:25:19 No.3270602
You don't use them to save time, you use them when you're autistic and don't like to talk to
people, like me.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)07:38:56 No.3270603
>>3270602
>it's gonna be 15 dollars and 37 cents
>thank you have a nice day
you don't even have to say shit
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)08:02:38 No.3270605
>>3270603
Don't even try to understand, normie. You just don't get it.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)08:56:03 No.3270608
>>3270605
you sound like the ugliest son of a bitch I've ever heard
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)09:02:15 No.3270611
>>3270608
You just
don't
get it
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)09:19:57 No.3270613
>>3270611
If I ever get your stinky mug in my line of sight I swear to jack off I'll cock your clock off
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)09:48:57 No.3270621
>>3270546
Ever since they introduced those giant iPads, I have never spoken to a cashier to take my order.
So many fucking times I've asked for extra sauce at the cash register and they still end up
giving me a dry ass burger. I have not had 1 problem with super complicated custom orders ever
since the automated menus were installed.
Anyone that has a problem with this shit is either old or retarded.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)09:51:39 No.3270622
>>3270603
I don't know where you live but even here in canuckistan, where people are apparently very cold
and unwelcoming, I get cashiers asking me how's my day and all sorts of shit because they feel
uncomfortable silently scanning my items.
Automated checkouts are a godsend for autists like myself and the anon you replied to.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)09:53:20 No.3270623
>>3270608
You sound like the physical manifestation of some loser's inner demons.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/08/17(Tue)10:13:14 No.3270628
>>3270546
here in sweden we have order screens as well in some places (at least in Max, a northern small
hamburger chain). press to make your order and pay with your credit card. then pick up your bag
when they yell your name.
they still need humans to make the burgers but the day will come it'll be cheaper to let a robot
do it
