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[_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)21:27:20 No.3268977
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>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)21:40:18 No.3268980
Tipping is for the customer service and the waiter.
If you order to-go, the food is the same price as sitting at a table where you get someone who
constantly refills your drinks, brings your food, cleans your dishes, and makes sure that
everything is good. Your tip pays that person for giving you good service.
If you don't like tipping, order to-go and just do all that shit yourself. If you don't want to,
then pay the laziness tax like everyone else.
It's not that hard.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)21:59:06 No.3268984
>people leave tips behind for good service
>suddenly it becomes clear to restaurant owners that their waitstaff are making big bank from tips
>lobby for laws that allow them to pay less than federal minimum because "lol they get tips
anyway"
>now waitstaff literally only survives on tips because American tipping culture is a
self-perpetuating cycle
Also what >>3268980 said. Don't eat at American restaurants if you don't want to pay extra.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)22:09:00 No.3268986
>>3268980
They're workers doing a job. The organization hiring them is who pays for them to give me good
service.
When you go to a restaurant they charge you for the product and service they provide, why the
fuck should I be expected to pay their employees for them on top of that.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)22:13:37 No.3268989
>>3268986
you wouldn't hack a meal from a restaurant would you?
>> [_] :v 08/02/17(Wed)22:25:40 No.3268995
>>3268989
b〳 •́ ﹏ •̀ 〵d
>shit he's onto me
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)22:29:47 No.3268996
>>3268986
In Europe, it's all fine and dandy to not tip. In fact, some places consider it an insult if you
DO tip. This is because servers get paid enough to make a substantial income; therefore, giving
them extra money is basically your way of saying "you look like you need it, take my pity money".
However, in the great states of America, servers make the majority of their money from tips,
which, even then, is hardly enough to live on. I used to work at a joint that paid $5 an hour,
and I've had friends who have worked for much less per hour (as low as $2.15). Now, if you're not
familiar with the American economy, that makes about $40 a day, $1200 a month, and $14400 a YEAR,
assuming they work 8 hours each day with minimal vacation time.Not only that, but most of these
servers are parents and grandparents. Now you tell me, is that enough to live on?
With tips, it usually comes to between $9 and $13 an hour, depending on the quality of the
restaurant. So you wanna bitch about tipping, or you wanna not tip altogether, you fucking move
to Europe. Don't make it our problem because you wanna prove some point to the world that
American servers shouldn't rely on tips.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)22:32:05 No.3269000
>>3268986
>>3268984
>pay extra
eurofags never stop to consider that their restaurants automatically tag on 20% gratuity to the
bill. The server gets "tipped" whether you like it or not (or realize it). This is not the case
in US, except at Guide-Michelin level places. Also, US servers almost universally get shit for
pay, far below minimum wage, if they get a base pay at all. Tips are almost all of their income
from that job.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)22:37:37 No.3269006
>>3268984
Except if waiters don't make at least minimum wage in tips the restaurant owners are legally
required to pay them the difference.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)22:58:28 No.3269013
>>3269006
not true buddy, when smoking section was finally cut out of the last few 24 hr joints anyone
working as a server got FUCKED.
Even with them taking out a percentace based on tips pre-smoker ban I would take home a good
hundred or two a night general paychack was only about 200 usd as well but after they were still
removing pay based on old tip amount. My last pay check before saying fuck this was all of 2
bucks and a quarter for a 30 plus hr work week.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)23:02:42 No.3269015
>>3269013
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
"A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives
more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13
per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the
federal minimum wage. If the employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at
least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the
difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees."
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)23:15:47 No.3269021
>>3268996
So, the problem is just that waiters in America are significantly poorer than those in Europe,
and so they should have more pity-tips than the others. Litterally just like giving alms to
street beggars.
How sad.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)23:27:49 No.3269026
>>3269000
Trips speak the truth
>> [_] Anonymous 08/02/17(Wed)23:55:35 No.3269046
The Tipping system is idiotic and encourages a shitty 3rd world socialist grease the wheels and
bribe me type culture instead of having a culture where employees treat everyone equally and get
the wage they are willing to work for.
Being a waiter is not significantly harder then most min wage jobs and even if you do think it is
somewhat harder then they only deserve "somewhat higher" pay.
The owner should pay them the wage they will work for and add the price onto the food.
Sure I will pay slightly more for the food but without the tip it will mostly even out.
I also won't have to worry that if I don't tip "enough" someone might spit in my food.
Same shit for taxi drivers.
If you are a cab driver and you wouldn't work without your tips then find our what your average
tip rate is and add that fee automatically onto the bill. Don't fucking expect me to take part if
your Mexican bribery bullshit.
Tipping culture is cancerous, makes tons of people uncomfortable and encourages unfair, classist
and even at times dangerous/criminal behavior among employees.
Its fucking stupid. Pay your own employees what they need and charge me for your services. Fuck
your tip.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)00:40:21 No.3269059
>all these triggered americans
top kek
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)01:20:07 No.3269071
>>3268980
Tipping is the customer subsidizing the restaurant industry the majority of which refuses to pay
a working wage to their employees.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)01:22:58 No.3269073
>>3268977
ITT:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)01:32:03 No.3269076
>>3269059
Im American and I really was happy seeing this. The majority of people, middle class, end up
working these jobs because they lack any motivation to build their worth and find a real job and
then cry when people dont give them free money to go spend on drugs and alcohol. Hopefully most
of them will starve and die when we finally require drug tests for government aid.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)04:41:22 No.3269124
>>3268977
here in sweden we dont tip and im very glad we dont. it's a stupid, stupid practice.
you start expecting extra money just for doing your job and if you dont get it you get cranky
like a little bitch. also gives the employers the "right" to give bad salaries.
it's also unfair like hell, why am i supposed to tip taxi drivers and waiters but not checkout
clerks or my dentist?
the stories ive read from people that expect tips but got pissed when they dont get it, truly
lowlife scums that needs a good slapping
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)05:48:36 No.3269129
>>3269013
worked as a server for a bit during college >>3269006
is tellin the truth, if i ever made below ~7$ an hour (total tips/hours in shift)
the restaurant would put the rest of the money in my weekly paycheck (which was the 2.14$ an hour
they payed us + any money we'd get if we didnt make the 7$ an hour threshhold)
Basically if you dont want tipping in restaurants to be borderline mandatory either order 2 go
and dont tip, or get fucked when restaurants have to raise their food costs to include the amount
the server is payed. Either way would remove the tipping mandatory thing. But desu tipping around
15% is generally what i give for ok service, shit tier service i might give you like 2$, good
service gets 18% nbd if youre not a neet and have a real job
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)05:53:19 No.3269130
>>3269076
alot of people in most of the restaurants ive seen are generally in their early teens and 20s,
usually working while in school or while taking a gap year from school/ college.
also these people still do work btw, they dont just fill ur water or bring you your food, they
have to set up the line (where the garnishes / sides are added onto your plate) have to clean and
top off salts in their section before theyre allowed to go home, and alot of places they have to
take on 5+ tables at a time (which at maybe 3 people a table on avg ) means theyre dealing with
15 people at once, as well as being on their feet the whole time and even when theyre in the back
they have to do work like grabbing and refilling ice tubs so that your drinks r cold, grabbin
clean plates and glasses from the dishwasher pit grabbing condiments etc like its not an easy
job, plus they dont make that much more than most people roughly 9.75$ an hour which desu is
deserved since theyre doing higher quality work than regular drive thru / mcdonald workers
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)05:54:39 No.3269131
TLDR a bunch of poor young fags that dont go to high quality places and are probably neets
ragging on the people (usually students) that work bottom end jobs because "muh sheckles"
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)06:11:43 No.3269133
>clerks
can be fired for accepting tips
>dentists
make $50k
aside from that yes I agree
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)08:16:13 No.3269162
>>3268977
Tipping in america is paying worker's wages so employers don't have to
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/17(Thu)08:29:29 No.3269163
>>3269130
This. Waiting tables is a hell-job. And you described a light load.
I had a 30-seat section in a black-tie 5star, and did all that, plus bussing my own tables, make
my own salads, appetizers, bread and desserts, AND my own liquor and mixed drinks. Finally I went
and hired my own busser, whom I paid $5 an hour plus 10% tips out of my OWN pocket, just to keep
up. Thank God all you cheapskates are too ruffian to visit such a place, otherwise I wouldn't
have been able to bank 4-5 franklins a night.
I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but cheers to those who do.
