File[Christians_ Understand the child abuse that you are supporting.swf] - (6.39 MB)
[_] [?] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)19:39 No.1506238
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)20:00 No.1506263
This went from "oh hey, this guy's making some pretty good points" straight into Rush Limbaugh
"hate them because you're sane and they're not" territory. Such bullshit hypocrisy.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)20:02 No.1506266
>>1506263
There was a good point somewhere in there?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)20:02 No.1506268
>the problem is with evangelical/fundamentalists
So if you aren't in that spectrum, you aren't part of the problem, and this video is 100%
irrelevant, so stop watching here.
Which I did.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)20:20 No.1506276
>>1506268
Actually, the casual Christians are making up the majority which let the other cunts get away
with shit.
However, aside from that, this is bullshit.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)21:30 No.1506304
How incredibly heavy-handed.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)21:35 No.1506308
religion is bullshit, fuck all of you religious fags
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)21:37 No.1506309
madness?.. THIS IS RELIGION!!
*kicks the child*
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)21:47 No.1506313
How butthurt all of you are getting is immensly amusing
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)21:51 No.1506317
>spanking or striking a child is complete insanity
......yeah, no.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)21:57 No.1506320
did anyone else notice the fact that the video author swapped "spanking" to "beating" like they
were exactly the same?
this video is exactly what's wrong with militant atheism. "you can't be christian because it
doesn't fix child abuse", well um, atheism doesn't fix child abuse either, because it's child
abuse, and not the result of a religious doctrine. People will find a way to justify child abuse
if they're disposed to justify child abuse. That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that
their religion is essential to their practice of child abuse.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)22:10 No.1506330
>>1506320
So I've had a couple so bare with me.
It's not that religion played a part in this video, he's using child abuse to doctrine his belief
that religion is wrong in so many ways. As he switched spanking with beating he also abandoned
the idea that children need to be disciplined in a manner they would understand, physical
disciplined is one of the only ways a child will understand, simply telling a child is wrong
doesn't instill an idea that it's wrong for these reasons. A child cannot reason so there for
needs to be physically disciplined. The fact that he's throwing it against evangelicals is
completely absurd. I'm a non-practicing christian and I still believe in beat the shit out of my
child if he royally fucks up in public.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)22:37 No.1506339
>>1506320
>swapped "spanking" to "beating" like they were exactly the same?
So, striking someone until they "genuinely cry" isn't a beating?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)22:41 No.1506340
>>1506330
>>1506320
>>1506317
>>1506276
>>1506268
>>1506266
>>1506263
go eat a peanut butthurt and u jelly sandwich
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)22:41 No.1506341
>>1506339
No, it's a spanking until they genuinely cry, a beating involves punching, kicking and can lead
to death, spanking just leads to bruises and a red bottom.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)22:42 No.1506343
Oh come off of it, I got my ass kicked as a kid and for good reason. I know a few other who did
and for the most part. The majority of the people I know who did turned out to be decent well
rounded people. I have found that the most people who didn't are spoiled fucking brats, or some
other form of " I can do whatever the fuck I want when I want." I mean I know a few parents who
never spanked their kid and they turned out alright... I guess.. The only problem with them is
they grew up to be crazy bitches with a fetish for being spanked. There is really nothing wrong
with that though.. I'll oblige
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)22:46 No.1506346
>>1506341
"an act of striking with repeated blows so as to injure or damage"
You might note there is no mention of the manner of the strike or of death.
You're starting your argument from assuming that no spanking is a beating. Which makes it not an
argument at all.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/05/11(Thu)23:13 No.1506349
>>1506346
And your argument is assuming that all spanking is beating.
Which makes it not an argument either.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)00:02 No.1506363
atheist here
the guy in the video is a christian activist tryiong to make people who aren't christian look bad
also i condone what he considers 'child abuse' not necessarily spanking but physical hits, where
there is no permanent damage and there is a logical reason to do so
but i'm dumb so ignore me
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)00:37 No.1506377
Jeez, I don't like the harmful works of evangelicals but this guy's making a piss-poor argument.
Is this guy trying to make the alternative look bad as a clever christian plot? Like those Truth
ads that make the anti-tobacco stance look pompous and embarassing?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)00:46 No.1506383
>implying spanking a child is child abuse
I've seen tons of children at work that need a good whoopin shit works wonders
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)00:54 No.1506384
I expected this to be better, we need more snipes and less blather.
Oh man, I loved it when on Real Time they said "If you want to be patriotic, why not give the IRS
more money? Everyone immediately objected, oh man it was hilarious.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)00:56 No.1506385
Smacking a dog on the ass and/or muzzle tells it "NO" and it'll remember that.
Smacking your child on the ass or the back of the head or hands also applies the "NO" message.
Typically, pain can produce a much longer lasting memory. If you go and set your hand on an
electric burner that looked cool, but was still very hot and you were burned, you'd remember next
time to either not put your hand on the burner at all, or test to see if the burner is still warm.
People believe that spanking is child abuse, and I have to vehemently disagree. Punching your
child, or beating their ass until they can't sit, or causing bleeding or things of that nature, I
do consider abuse. Slapping their ass to leave a slight sting that lasts a few minutes and may
leave a reddened handprint for the duration isn't.
Children can't handle complex thinking and reasoning, so you need to deal with things the basic
way. It's far more effective.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)01:06 No.1506390
the version of science given to the general public is bs, it has to be to conform to nuke
non-prolif. some things to think about... "there's no perpetual motion" (thermodynamics), ever
thought about what this means in terms of earth's orbit or the time frame within which earth will
be human habitable, want to look into the past, check out Venus, want to see the future, check
Mars. still think the sun will have burned out before earth faces an Armageddon?
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)01:10 No.1506391
I love this guy's voice
He should go into Books On Tape as a career
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)01:33 No.1506398
>>1506385
Children can't handle complex reasoning? So if you actually took the time to talk to a child and
reason it out for them, that doesn't solve the problem? I know plenty of 5-year olds who can
perform basic inductive reasoning, and if you tell them something is wrong with a concrete
reason, they get it. It's never necessary to strike a child, ever, regardless of reason. I
wouldn't say the video makes any good points, because it really doesn't, but seriously - kids
shouldn't need to be hit to get a point across.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)01:52 No.1506405
I support some of this guys arguments but he is a massive douche nozzle with shit arguments.
Especially the "DERP REPLACE THE WORD" argument. Really? The statement "You should hit the bug
with enough force to kill it" is totally sane but "You should hit your mother with enough force
to kill it" is WTF. Bad argument.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)01:57 No.1506414
>>1506330
>physical discipline is one of the only ways a child will understand
I was never beat as a child. I work at a successful law firm and never got in trouble as a kid.
My parents just weren't absolute fucking retards and actually knew something about parenting.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)03:05 No.1506438
What a great one reference to make all Christianity a horrible thing. Of course we could just try
to isolate the problem people instead. Apparently you cannot be sane if you have a religion and
religion only does horrible things. Wow. I love these type of people believing that they are
rational and everyone else who is not like them are not.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)03:12 No.1506444
Christian or not, kids neat a good beating or else they don't learn shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)03:46 No.1506450
>>1506391
You now realize this was read by Patton Oswald.
>> [_] Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH 05/06/11(Fri)03:57 No.1506455
>Implying physical punishment of children is obviously insane and immoral.
Well, shit. This video is full of it.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)03:59 No.1506456
>Religion is insanity
I know plenty of atheists who believe the moon landing was fake and aliens are real. Insanity is
everywhere, just cope.
>> [_] Cain !!GBvgNM4tK9g 05/06/11(Fri)04:08 No.1506457
Niggers that are afraid of getting spanked
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)04:25 No.1506463
>>1506457
>Implying niggers are afraid of being struck
Not until it's someone they don't know. Then twenty of them jump in like a bunch of monkeys.
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)05:05 No.1506472
>starts
>"christians - understand the child abuse that you are supporting"
>x out
Yeah, bible games.
>> [_] Spartan\Eurofag !eGdhyAdJaU 05/06/11(Fri)07:24 No.1506493
sure is strawman argument
this flash is lacking in logic
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)07:31 No.1506495
Pr 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall
not die.
Pr 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
>> [_] Spartan\Eurofag !eGdhyAdJaU 05/06/11(Fri)07:34 No.1506497
its also funny because the converse is just as valid
"atheist beat their children too" but naturally that detracts from the focus that christians are
bad amirite
>> [_] Anonymous 05/06/11(Fri)07:55 No.1506502
BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH
this flash is fucking stupid