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[_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)20:19 No.1950600
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)20:20 No.1950601
i see nothing but bullshit
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)20:21 No.1950602
i see nothing but bullshit
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)20:47 No.1950627
>>1950602
"the highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about" -wayne
Dyer
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)21:16 No.1950666
Why has spam been getting more popular on /f/?
And why don't we have mods?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)21:25 No.1950678
>>1950627
They're not hard to understand. They're just Marxists that only have rough ideas about the US
economics and macroeconomics as a whole.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)21:27 No.1950680
>>1950678
There are more Marxists than normal people nowadays.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)21:32 No.1950683
Goddamnit. It's like someone heard the word zeitgeist and was like "I'm going to fucking butcher
this word. I'm going to do it."
>> [_] sage sage 04/21/13(Sun)21:35 No.1950686
Fucking spammer wont be happy till we get that fucking captcha shit back on /f/ again permanently
apparently.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)22:24 No.1950770
>>1950627
Everyone has their views. Everyone thinks that they know what makes for what is better for the
world. But, honestly what say what is best? I know that anyone can be happy with whatever
non-sense they create. All I can think is that the truth is to what instinct brings to you.
Anything else is just speculation.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)22:35 No.1950797
>>1950678
I agree, science is Marxist or communist.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)22:38 No.1950800
>>1950770
Happiness is not gained through a subjective thought process. Happiness is gained through
fulfilling our objectively or scientifically discovered human needs. Market advocates want to
believe, happiness is subjective or human wants are infinite, such nonsense allows the sale of
the Scientology values, or belief-system.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)22:46 No.1950816
>>1950800
Are you sure? What says happiness is actual happiness? How can you tell that science will give
everyone satisfaction. What I can tell it really doesn't matter. You can't say you are right if
everyone around you says that they are correct. Also, People have lived with religion,
non-religion, and their or whatever beliefs for years and they have been fine with it.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)22:52 No.1950829
>>1950816
religion didn't make the plague easier to deal with.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)22:56 No.1950835
>>1950829
Religion may have not saved the people, but, it gave them hope of a better afterlife. A comfort
to see that there would be something after all this strife. In other words, Religion gave
humanity the one thing we still are here, Hope and morality. Also even if it seems that religion
is people believing in a lie. It really isn't, for any religion is a theory to what our purpose
or the old ass question of why are we here question.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)22:56 No.1950838
Philosophers have been struggling with the concept of happiness since before we were born. It's a
chimeric concept that eludes pursuit and qualification. Don't act like it's so simple.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)22:57 No.1950840
>>1950627
NO, the highest form of ignorance is wallowing in your own stupidity repeatedly - My fucking self
because I don't let a bunch of wackjobs speak for me
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)22:58 No.1950841
You should probably justify the claim that religion is the origin of both hope and morality, or
at least try. The existence of religion does not prove its necessity, so the majority of the
argument thus far is fallacious.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:00 No.1950843
>>1950797
>muh Science
Saying the word "science" doesn't make your political gibbering valid.
Please stop bastardizing the scientific method with your sci-fi fantasy world.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:04 No.1950852
>>1950841
It's necessity was made by the fact of understanding and finding an answer to why we were here
and what is the point of life. I shouldn't have said that religion was the source of hope and
morality, just a good conduit, my mistake in that part. The truth is that it gives people an
answer, a purpose, a reason for their existence. I mean I can't prove it to you scientifically,
but, you can just see it all around you how people survive day to day with a religion in their
minds continuing on while before they would just give up and die.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:06 No.1950855
>>1950835
religion is for people who want to believe in lies. Spoiler: there is no afterlife as there is no
evidence of the magical god or jesus they talk about, it's FRAUD.
>>1950840
ad hominem fallacies.
>>1950843
ad hominem fallacies.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:06 No.1950856
In fact I'd say Zeitshit is patently pseudoscientific, testing is part and parcel to the
scientific process and almost everything outlined in ALL the zeitgeist material I've read is
completely untested conjecture.
Not to mention ANY justification for the processes are conspicuously missing, instead of an
explanation, Zeitzombies will explain why other systems don't work, and since their theoretical
system theoretically doesn't have this one problem, it's completely perfect in every way and we
should take no issue with Zeitshits deconstructing all of our infrastructure in an attempt to
rebuild society, because clearly nothing can go wrong.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:08 No.1950858
>>1950855
>ad hominem fallacies
But I'm right. You've made no effort here or in the material provided to prove any of your claims
are scientific; you merely state that they are science, and because they are science they must be
correct.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:09 No.1950859
>>1950856
I agree, science has never been tested and science is theoretical. I also agree that science is
communism also.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:10 No.1950861
>>1950855
Like I said before, its a theory! It could be right it could be wrong! Can you disprove that
religion is wrong? No for that is impossible. You can't find physical evidence that Jesus Christ
did not exist nor can you find evidence that God doesn't exist.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:11 No.1950864
>>1950859
>my claims are science because they are science
Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:13 No.1950866
I'm sure you're very sincere, but get the fuck out. This is not a place to evangelize, it's a
place to goof off and have fun. You have no respect for the spirit of /f/, so why should we
respect you?
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:17 No.1950869
>>1950866
And you posted four flashes? I don't fucking care if you're scientific or not, you've shit all
over our forum and caused dozens of people annoyance. Go be self-righteous somewhere else.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:17 No.1950870
>>1950861
Prayer CAN be tested. Prayer has no effect, leading atheists to personally conclude that
religious people are bullshit artists. Jesus is imaginary.
>>1950858
the arguments I've heard do not consider the facts against the zeitgeist movement.
Trade or money is a religion.
Property is violence.
Sharing (open-source) is good for public health.
There has never been a point in human history when trade has been a valid idea since competition
is bad for public health.
Rich mansions literally tower over poorer houses in my area, that is covert violence because of
the falsely accepted rules of our current money-trade-political-religious social system
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:20 No.1950874
>>1950870
I'm glad you can spout non-sequiturs, but please, explain to me how the material provided by you
(burden of proof being on you) is "scientific".
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:22 No.1950875
>>1950869
Censorship or TL;DR is not a valid argument.
>>1950866
I am goofing off and having fun.
my impression of 4chan has been: The place to go to be offended on the internet, therefore people
raging over zeitgeist content I see as just as valid as the gore and killing embedded video flash
movies.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:22 No.1950876
>>1950870
>Trade or money is a religion.
>Property is violence.
>Sharing (open-source) is good for public health.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
There is a very wide gap between dogma and science, you may not be on the same side of that line
as you think.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/21/13(Sun)23:23 No.1950877
>>1950870
wut?
>Trade or money is a religion.
...how? I go to work. I get money. I spend it on hookers and cocaine, and I'm happy. Do you just
wanna remove the work and money from that?
>Property is violence.
Shit what the fuck? Property is a personal possession, are you just jealous of what the other
kids have?
>Sharing (open-source) is good
Yes
>for public health.
How? Prove it.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:26 No.1950878
>>1950627
You don't have to step in the dogshit to know it's dogshit.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:27 No.1950880
>>1950874
quote from zeitgeist moving forward (the zeitgeist movement's bible):
"What science has now shown is that regardless of material wealth, the stress of simply living in
a stratified society leads to a vast spectrum of public health problems" -peter joesph, God of
the zeitgeist movement.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:27 No.1950881
>>1950870
You fucking arrogant bastard. Because your life is miserable you try to get a few people to
listen to your bullshit self-aggrandizement? You're poor because you have no skills that people
care about. You went to a little community college and learned nothing but how to inflate your
own ideas and convince unconfident people that you are right. Now that everyone you know has been
insulted and turned away from you, you're trying the same thing with us.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:28 No.1950882
>>1950878
/mlp/ agrees with you,
you dont need to step in horseshit to know its horseshit.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:30 No.1950886
>>1950880
Appeal to authority.
Peter Joseph and Jacques Fresco are not God-kings, unless there is data to back up that claim, I
am forced to disregard it as, again, pseudoscience.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:33 No.1950888
stop bumping this, let it drown!!
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:35 No.1950891
>>1950877
as modren money mechanics clearly states, money only needs confidence (faith) to exist in it to
buy real goods and services.
Trade or money, is not and never will be a real good or service, it is a hinderance.
Considering your ad hominem fallacy, yes property is violence, rich people towering over the poor.
open source is good for public health as people sharing blue-prints, possessions, gets the job
done concerning, reducing to eliminating poverty, and enabling technology to grow.
weapons is a product of trade no needlessly defend property which mother nature has provided to
exist, not you.
The fruit of your labour is actually enabled by natural laws as understood by science, which
aren't as flexiable as a legal system.
>>1950881
ad hominem fallacies
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:36 No.1950893
>>1950875
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>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:36 No.1950894
>>1950886
Furthermore, this quote is, as I said above, not proving any of the claims in your future-model
of society, but outlining problems with the current one. As it stands the Zeitgeist model is
wholly unproven.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:38 No.1950897
>>1950852
While what you say is true, people can be misled and given answers to those basic questions which
will make them lead unhappier lives. Just because religion provides AN answer, it doesn't mean it
provides a good answer. Religion as it is provides rudimentary answers, as it was one of our
first attempts at the questions.
Personally, I don't think the question 'why are we here' is even well-posed, which is the reason
I think we've not found an answer. It's a quirk of the mind that we should think in terms of
'why' where such teleological thinking may not be meaningful at all.
signed, not the zeitgeist retard
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:39 No.1950898
>>1950886
You want to be trolled.
"The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that you truly believe in what you
are saying, no matter how outrageous" -urbandictionary
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:41 No.1950901
>>1950897
ad hominem fallacy.
We exist to enjoy our own existence.
"the world is like a ride, a choice between fear and love" -Bill Hicks.
>> [_] zeitgeist 04/21/13(Sun)23:43 No.1950903
>>1950894
I agree there's no proof that science works.
>> [_] Anonymous 04/21/13(Sun)23:43 No.1950905
>>1950898
Damn nigga. 10/10.
It takes dedication to spam a board that much just to b8. Not to mention you spout dogma like a
pro.
You deserve it.
I - people really believe this shit, though?
