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[_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)00:22:04 No.2955335
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)00:42:35 No.2955348
I agree with his premise, but I wouldn't say going off of polls of pro/anti-sharia law is the
best way of determining 'radicalism'
Sharia is is common among islam and not always violent.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)00:45:41 No.2955351
>>2955348
Not to mention he fails to leave out all the Muslims that didn't actually answer this survey,
inflating his numbers, or who performed this survey, which makes it's credibility questionable.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)00:46:34 No.2955352
>>2955348
>zero grasp of Sharia, statistical analysis, or reality in general
Better wake up...
unless of course you're one of Them.
I wish those who actually are in tune with the truth were as analytical and concise as this
video's speaker... unfortunately, where radicalism is concerned, ignorant emotion rules.
This is how heads get chopped and towers fall.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)00:58:11 No.2955358
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they
joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are
disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause
of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard
and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has
promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those
who sit (at home) by a huge reward "
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off
their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and
religion should be only for Allah"
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah
is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who
disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)00:58:21 No.2955359
how much of this is because of the religious teachings itself.
like, if it weren't for Islam, would all this backwardness and radicalism disappear?
Isn't there both a lot of nationalist, perhaps even racist, sentiment driving some of the
condoning of violence? The middle east
Isn't there also just a lot of backwardness, lack of education, sexual repression, and otherwise
just anti-intellectualism inherent in the cultures and the mindset in many of the people in these
parts of the world?
How do we tease apart what's caused by Islam, and what might have just been some predisposing
factor that allowed the faith to predominate but is, by itself, the root cause of some
destructive or backward sentiments?
Islam is at the core of peoples' lives, but they don't just believe Islam. Islam is maybe just a
vehicle for sentiments they might otherwise have for other reasons. Not to say Islam helps; not
only might some teachings in the texts might tend to be conducive to destructive interpretations,
perhaps if it weren't the single unifying force between all these disgruntled populations, then
they'd by more amenable to reform, whereas now they collectively support one anothers'
backwardness, making sure their partners in backwardness don't falter in their backwardness.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:01:45 No.2955361
>>2955352
OH YES PLEASE SCARE ME IT TOTALLY WORKS. Fuck ignorance, fuck being a scared little sheep, fuck
trying to justify racism, and most of all fuck violent hypocrites interfering with how perfectly
decent strangers live. Coming from an ex-Catholic Atheist American. Ignorance and vitriol are
what got the world into this mess and it will continue to perpetuate it. Terrorism is now a
thing. It's being used by everyone. ISIS is just the sexiest flavor. Man up; use your brain, and
be a decent human being. Fear gets you nowhere.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:11:14 No.2955369
>>2955361
You seem neurotically conflicted and self-contrarian; you cry "fear-monger!" yet you repeat the
same message in lower IQ wording.
The pathos: "Since *I* thought it, only *I* can be right, everyone else must be a parrot or The
Cancer". You hold a shred of the truth, and your Id will not allow your Ego to share or explore
it.
Seek help now. Poor mental health is a major component of this vicious cycle.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:22:33 No.2955373
>>2955359
idk how much
not all
yes
yes
- and that perpetuates it
hard to say
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:31:32 No.2955381
>"I'm an orthodox jew"
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:34:30 No.2955384
>>2955361
you managed to say absolutely nothing in all those words. I'm kind of amazed. also
>racism
man you're retarded.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:37:24 No.2955388
Quoting surveys and "statistics" is the easiest way to get small minded people to believe your
lies
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:37:26 No.2955389
>>2955369
K
btw im just an onlooker, not the same guy, but jeez, you sound like a prick, you could have said
that much more eloquently but you chose big words over stylistic prose
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)01:42:57 No.2955393
>>2955335
>Is a Jew
>Makes a stab about genital mutilation against Muslims
This is great
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:01:14 No.2955406
>>2955393
That is the main issue I took with this entire video.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:06:35 No.2955409
>>2955406
same
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:10:43 No.2955410
>>2955388
The pew research center is viewed as a highly legitimate source.
>>2955348
Sharia law is one of the core tenets of radical islamic belief. Believing in sharia law is by
definition radicalized.
>>2955351
Its based on pew research, its credibility is well established.
>>2955359
People tend to act on their core belief system. This is not about anything other than a core
belief system that teaches murder is acceptable if you namedrop god in the process. It is
literally that simple. Almost all acts of terrorism over the last twenty years have been
conducted by Muslims. That should speak for its self.
>>2955361
No one is saying to be 'scared' people are saying that if you continue to ignore the issue, it
will become worse. History has borne this out thousands of times, and every single time people
pretend its not 'happening''. Or do you think that the "Nazi's" were perfectly innocent strangers
too? How about the Khmer Rouge? How about every mass murdering violent group since the damn dawn
of history? You want to sit there and do nothing till this group has enough resources and
territory to actually do something large-scale? Great plan you buffoon.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:15:13 No.2955413
>>2955388
This. I only believe loud shouting and appeals to emotion.
"statistics" and "logic" are for idiots
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:16:32 No.2955414
>>2955388
These are actually very credible statistics that people suchs as Sam Harris base their whole
argument on. Usually small minded people try to undermine the credibility of statistics and try
to make them look like internet polls because they don't understand how effective that particular
field of science is.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:22:10 No.2955415
>>2955388
dont put quotes around statistics like it means anything. its a mathematical science you retard.
Just because stats frighten you doesn't mean they are not credible.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:30:56 No.2955421
>>2955393
Silly goy, don't you know female genital mutilation is an unforgivable crime, and male genital
mutilation is good, normal, and more clean?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:43:41 No.2955426
>>2955410
I'm sorry all I saw there was >appeal to authority
Maybe you can discount their concerns with something else?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:54:54 No.2955430
I want /pol/ to leave
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:55:36 No.2955431
fearmongering.swf
If you believe his statistics conflation, it's only because it's reinforcing your own misguided
opinions, probably injected into your mind by conservative mainstream news sources, or other
inbred southern pigfuckers.
But by all means, keep justifying your xenophobic racist tendencies if it makes you feel better
about being scared and violent.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:57:40 No.2955434
>>2955431
>muslims are a race
wew lad
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:57:52 No.2955435
>>2955430
But we love you, anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)02:58:57 No.2955436
>>2955431
Islam is not a race you fucker. There is nothing xenophobic or racist about being opposed to a
religion or a collection of cultural norms.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:06:59 No.2955441
!!REMINDER!!
DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT
THESE POSTERS ARE LITERALLY SAYING "I DISAGREE WITH STATICAL FACT"
DO NOT RESPOND
>>2955351
>>2955431
>>2955388
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:07:33 No.2955442
Regarding Ben Shapiro and his Ability to Discern Fact from Alarmist Supposition:
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings
and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its
unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to
deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
--John Rogers
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:11:21 No.2955446
>>2955442
B-b-but muh libertarianism. ;~;
Ron Paul said it wuz right so it must be right.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:13:44 No.2955447
No, I'M the only one 'Literally' writing "I DISAGREE WITH STATICAL FACT..."
...because what the hell is a 'statical fact?'
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:13:46 No.2955448
If you're not aware how much of a moron the guy speakin in OP's video is, here's a little sampler:
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/20/meet_our_new_ayn_rand_ben_shapiros_hamfisted_propaga
nda_fiction_is_even_worse_than_you_guessed/
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:18:50 No.2955451
>>2955447
>>2955441
oops fucked my meme post up
*STATISTICAL FACT
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:19:51 No.2955452
>>2955448
>salon.com
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:20:08 No.2955453
>>2955446
Libertarian here.
Can confirm, Atlas Shrugged fucks young minds for life.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:20:51 No.2955454
>>2955448
>salon
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:21:51 No.2955455
>>2955452
Sorry, meant to source an article from averagesexistbasementdweller.org my bad.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:24:13 No.2955456
>>2955455
salon is literally one of the most biased sources of information, is what these folks were
looking to get at. You are no better for sourcing that than you would be for sourcing something
to the opposite extreme (as you are sarcastically apologizing for not doing).
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:26:04 No.2955458
This reminds me of a story I read a while ago where according to polls a not-insignificant number
of Russian citizens believed that the US was responsible for shooting down Malaysian Airlines
Flight 17. It sounds preposterous but thinking about it you realize that it doesn't sound too
dissimilar from misconceptions about the 9/11 attacks. The belief system a person grows up in and
lives in shapes the way they see the world; it doesn't surprise that otherwise normal people in
countries like Indonesia or Bangladesh would support terrorism in prosperous far-away nations
when I consider the fact that I don't truly care what happens to people in poor far-away
countries.
(This isn't to say that Islam as a culture doesn't strike me particularly more warmongering than
others. Let's just say I'd rather be stuck in an elevator with a Hindu than a Muslim.)
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:26:30 No.2955459
>>2955456
Yeah dude, and Jon Stewart is a liberal pundit. So biased amirite!
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:27:34 No.2955460
>>2955459
I don't understand the sarcasm, I thought it was common knowledge that his target audience is the
average progressive.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:29:53 No.2955463
True or false, this video isn't going to cause anything to change. I'm not sure what the benefit
of knowing radicalism isn't practiced by just the minority of Muslims is supposed to be... At
least in the USA, it's not like we're going to ban a religion.
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:31:01 No.2955465
>>2955459
He quite clearly shows his bias fairly often if he was just a liberal pundit he would crack a
joke every time there was some school shooting or something and be done with it, but instead he
rants on and on about what HE sees as a problem that needs to change (bad example I know)
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:32:42 No.2955466
>>2955458
Russia has one of the best if not the best propaganda machines (not that the US doesn't)
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:34:24 No.2955467
“The facts have a well-known liberal bias.”
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:53:01 No.2955476
What about all the "radical" christians who want to nuke these countries? It's probably close to
100% of the fucktards. They aren't going out to do it, but they're funding the U.S. military with
their taxes (ask them about it) and the military is in turn terrorizing the muslim countries.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)03:56:07 No.2955479
>>2955476
Everyone living in the US is funding the US military with their taxes, including radical muslims
living in the US.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:01:02 No.2955481
>Some said that terrorist actions are sometimes justifiable
And they are. Every single revolution that has ever taken place has been a terrorist action, has
had people who fought, killed and died for their beliefs. The victors of these struggles are now
treated as having always been in the right, but it's ridiculous to say that actions like these
are unjustifiable, because we simply do not live in a black and white world like that.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:03:58 No.2955483
>>2955481
Don't entirely agree with you but "History is written by the victor"
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:06:47 No.2955486
>>2955389
seconded
If you can make a point then make a point
Going out of your way to be an asshole really doesn't make you do anything better.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:09:59 No.2955487
Lol that last statement made my day
>This will get alot of civilized people killed
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:19:48 No.2955490
i like fat cocks up my ass
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:20:57 No.2955492
>>2955490
Don't play with your food.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:22:37 No.2955493
>>2955459
>is
>> [_] friendsofsandwiches 11/20/15(Fri)04:27:39 No.2955496
Did they conduct any polls among muslims who want to just blow shit up because someone else has
things better then them?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:45:17 No.2955503
>>2955335
>You don't see jews doing...
Oh god my sides
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)04:55:54 No.2955506
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)05:00:38 No.2955509
>"i'm a jew"
Stopped listening right there
If i wanted the most biased opinion on earth i would watch this.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)05:43:09 No.2955525
See, the reason Palestinians support attacks on Israel is because the Israeli government is
bulldozing civilian homes in the name of Israeli expansion.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)05:44:00 No.2955526
Wouldn't these numbers mean total annihilation by muslims if they ever decided to go "total war"
on our asses?
I dunno, those huge numbers and the consequences thereof seem contradictory to the current state
of the world.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)05:58:08 No.2955531
>>2955526
It's because they are contradictory to the current state of the world. Say you go to a white
american neighborhood and do a statistical study to find out what percentage of those residents
are catholic. You find our 75% of them are. Does this "factual" information that mean 75% of
white americans are catholic? No, because that's fucking retarded.
That's what this asswipe is doing, and he's getting paid for it too.
He's pretty much the go to faggot of the universe.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)06:01:42 No.2955533
>>2955525
thank you could you help me with my math homework as well having some real trouble with this one
2x4 = ?
>>2955526
ever seen a game of civilization where a tiny country with nukes is able to absolutely demolish a
much bigger nation stuck in the bronze age? thats why
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)06:22:30 No.2955537
>>2955531
The major countries not included are extremely conservative and more likely to bring the numbers
up than down.
What he did is more like finding out that 80% of americans are christian, but not including Texas
and alabama for practical reasons.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)06:23:07 No.2955538
Love this skinny jew
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)06:48:39 No.2955549
> Bejamin Aaron Shapiro
> Ethnicity: Jewish
Yeah, sure thing dude...
I mean I don't like muslims that much myself even though my ancestors are muslims, but this is
bullshit...
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)07:11:52 No.2955554
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>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)07:24:09 No.2955557
Why do people call it radical islam? It's fundamental islam. It's oppressive, barbaric and
encourages violence against kafir - everyone who isn't a muslim. #noteverymuslim who follows
fundamental islam is a terrorist, but they are the source.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)07:34:03 No.2955560
>Is a Jew
>Makes a stab at Palestinians hating Israel
Yeah you should really take a look at what people see there
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)07:35:13 No.2955562
>>2955557
Obama himself said Islam encourages peace and whatnot. Plenty of people also know the difference
between extremists and normal islam. Are you still gonna insist you're the only person that's
right?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)07:46:11 No.2955567
>>2955526
I live in Malaysia which is a muslim majority nation and I can assure you that that just can't
happen. Everyone here is just too fucking lazy to even bother with this war shit and just want to
stay at home watching tv and eating rice with curry
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:02:40 No.2955575
>>2955567
ayy lmao i live in singapore and muslims here are real chill and shit. I have no idea how muslims
in other places can cause so much trouble
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:06:17 No.2955580
Arabs are savages.
Go to any non-Arab/middle eastern muslim countries and it's actually pretty nice.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:08:32 No.2955581
>>2955580
goddamn so its the arabs
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:08:51 No.2955582
>Yeah sure the old testament is violent and shit but you don't see people who believe in it doing
this type of shit to nonbelievers
>Mentions Israel later on in the video in a positive light
Oh the ironing.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:14:23 No.2955583
Can we kill all muslims? I can't stand the mudkeks.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:23:50 No.2955586
I just want to say that I have to deal with discussions like this in real life and go to /f/ to
get away from this shit. Thus, I have read none of the comments in this thread.
>Marked for deletion (old).
Good night sweet thread.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/20/15(Fri)08:25:35 No.2955587
>>2955583
yes. kill all sand niggers, niggers, and jews.
spics are cool.