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[_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)17:46:55 No.3172179
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)18:10:29 No.3172183
>>3172179
lolbertarians at it again I guess
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)18:16:30 No.3172184
This follows the same logic as trickle down economics, that money is distributed from the top to
the bottom and that if that was to be altered, it would have to even out someway, which is
demonstrably not true.
Then again you americans have always gotten fucked when it comes to worker rights, enjoy your
media-placed presidential candidate by the way.
I meant Clinton, in case it had to be especified.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)18:45:28 No.3172192
>libertariarism
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)20:07:19 No.3172216
The best thing about that flash was the people saying YES!!
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)20:46:39 No.3172232
>>3172184
Trickle down economics worked, however flawed it may have been, it only started to fail entirely
because people had to fuck it up constantly screeching "IT JUST DONT WORK MAN ITS JUST THEORY AND
IT DON'T WORK"
The New Deal was the turning point
Ayn Rand was right all along
Democracy doesn't work the more democracy it involves
And also it doesn't exist, because the secret services always pre-emptively elect and eject their
own rulers
peace out bitches
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:13:57 No.3172239
>murifats being dumb
Minimum wages are the best wealth reallocation mechanism available to a nation, and create
socially desirable outcomes such as non homelessness.
>muh employment and inflation
murifat is at 4.9% according to google. anything under 5% is under the non accelerating inflation
rate of unemployment, which creates inflationary pressure on prices + wage increases leading to
decreasing international competitiveness
can murifats really be this dumb?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:20:00 No.3172241
This is bullshit, capitalist propaganda.
Make people work for nothing just like in 3rd world countries, but I guess that is what US is
becoming
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:23:12 No.3172243
>>3172179
PragerU is god-tier at triggering normalfags.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:23:12 No.3172244
>>3172241
America is going to be first again
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:28:57 No.3172246
>>3172239
>there inflation is at 4.9
>it won't go higher guys, trust me.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:38:05 No.3172248
????????
Is this a joke?
Noone sane would believe this.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)21:38:09 No.3172249
>>3172244
First on mars, or what does this sentence imply?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:13:37 No.3172257
>>3172183
So much this. "What is the American industrial revolution Alex."
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:14:55 No.3172258
>>3172257
Ancient history
Also all unions are corrupt and should be dissolved, if you're good enough at your job you
shouldn't need protection from some organization.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:17:02 No.3172260
>>3172232
You lay a lot of trust in the hope that the ones who control wealth are ultimately good people
and won't try to screw you.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:17:14 No.3172261
>>3172184
trickle down economics never made a lot of sense for me
it's like building a house by starting at the roof
I think stimulating and helping promote the creation of small businesses is probably the best
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:20:06 No.3172262
>>3172239
>>3172246
>their
inflation has fluctuated from 3.8% to -.4% in the past 20 years and is currently at 1.5% you
dingbats. Use google.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:22:56 No.3172263
>>3172261
I would tend to agree with this being that small business employ the majority of Americans.
Perhaps making it easier for small business to prosper would do more to help the American people
people instead of just saying "give the rich people money and maybe it will come back to you."
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:40:32 No.3172266
>>3172258
Businesses dont wont people who are "good at thier jobs", they want people who are going to lower
the bottom line.
Sure you're a good worker, but you demand a high salary and plenty of benefits because of it. If
the company can hire two part-time dingbats who, collectively, do 120% of the workload you do,
while still denying them benefits and paying out the same amount of total salary, they'll totally
do it.
I'm not saying that's wrong or right, but the idea that the company entity as a whole is
interested in YOUR benefit rather than it's own ever is flawed.
There's reason why things like Overtime, maternity leave, workers compensation, OSHA Safety
Standards, etc are federal law. Because if they were required, they wouldn't adhere to them,
becuse they cost money.
The only reason you can sit and say "unions are worthless" now is because of how well they
fucking did thier jobs when they weren't just a useful entity, but an absolute fucking necessity
for establishing a decent standard of living for the working middle class.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:45:10 No.3172267
>>3172258
>Also all unions are corrupt and should be dissolved
Just because american unions are fucking retarded doesn't mean the concept is wrong, they work
pretty damn well in pretty much any first world country.
You guys seriously have to rethink them though
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:53:00 No.3172273
>>3172266
>they want people who are going to lower the bottom line.
And if lowering that bottom line causes their product quality to slip, they'll have shot
themselves in the foot. People don't force you to buy things (except when, sometimes, they do),
so all you have to do to punish such companies is to not contribute to their success.
If, on the other hand, a company somehow can produce its good/service by using dingbats instead
of good workers, then those "good workers" aren't actually contributing more to society than the
dingbats, and don't deserve better pay and benefits.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)22:58:18 No.3172276
>>3172273
The funny thing about this is that companies often reach agreements behind the courtain in order
to set limits in terms of wages etc.
Companies work like unions do in order to limit freedoms/salaries instead of workers having
unions in order to fight for them, it's insane.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:03:41 No.3172278
I am not concerned with minimum wage as I work in sales for commission, and people making minimum
wage even if it were higher generally don't have the credit to buy my product considering not
all, but most of them have not made amazing financial choices or enough financial choices up to
that point.
please work hard and improve yourselves anon-kuns
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:15:38 No.3172281
Yeah thanks for a demonstrating your college freshman understanding of labor markets.
Unfortunately the issue is more complicated than that.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:17:34 No.3172282
>>3172273
>people don't force you to buy things
>implying people can tell the quality of a product
If a company builds your house with lead pipes and asbestos for insulation, or adds cheaper
chemicals to your food, it's not as if you can just "know and avoid that product."
Furthermore, if one company or group of companies holds a monopoly in a product needed for life,
how is are supposed to go find another provider? Especially in medicine, energy, food (albeit
less so), and real estate, it isn't trivial to go start up a new business and break a monopoly.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:33:42 No.3172286
>>3172241
>capitalist propaganda
>MAKE people work for nothing
Do the workers get a gun pointed to their heads? Oh wait, that's taxation.
Maybe if you'd stop being such a fucking beta male then you'd be able to negotiate a wage without
the state doing it for you.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:40:44 No.3172289
>>3172282
Sure you can. I can monitor my mood and health and associate them to what foods I've been eating,
so there's lots of stuff I don't eat now. For building quality, there are inspectors: I wouldn't
buy a car/house/etc. without having a professional inspect it first. I certainly wouldn't blindly
trust that my local government has made enough regulations (and made sure they're enforced) to
prevent that sort of thing.
Monopolies are, as you say, a huge danger. We're seeing problems of that now (look at the mess
that is US telco/ISP). That's why it's important to make it easy to create new businesses. This
isn't solely related to companies hiring low quality workers, however; monopolies cause far more
problems.
>>3172276
Yeah, that sort of thing is terrible. I have no objection to laws against that sort of
conspiracy, but in practice I don't think those laws have teeth. It's easy for everyone involved
to simply play dumb and keep hiking prices.
If barriers to entry are lowered, however, the threat of competition can (locally) protect
against that. I've heard of some great stories where the huge ISPs collude over a small region,
but a town (or person) finally has enough and sets up a small provider, finding out that it's
actually dirt cheap to provide quality that the giants refuse to.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:53:55 No.3172297
>inflation rises over the decades and the same minimum wage job for the same hours can't pay a
person's living wages anymore
>but it's all big gubs fault, they don't deserve more money don't make me pay non-slave wages plz
>> [_] Anonymous 11/05/16(Sat)23:58:20 No.3172299
>>3172286
>"negotiate" with mega-corporations that have smashed unions into dust and are prepared to
replace you with the reservoir of unemployed NEETs a stagnant market has created
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)00:04:59 No.3172302
>burgerclaps actually believe this
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)00:28:13 No.3172304
>>3172299
And you are not the only one working for 2 dollars an hour. If a large portion of the population
earns 2 dollars an hour then the market has to adjust as well, otherwise everything would be too
expensive for 60% of the people and companies would lose customers.
Do you really think the companies would hire the middle class for 2 dollars an hour and then
still sell 700 dollar iPhones/whatever to the middle class? The market has to adjust, otherwise
the companies would go under. Apply the same principle to everything else.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)00:37:52 No.3172305
what is a wage???
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)00:41:41 No.3172306
>>3172304
You know companies live forever right? But people's lives are finite? So long as they make profit
within their lifetime why bother worrying about that stuff? This is cause for literally every
economic bubble
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:08:11 No.3172320
Is there a reason we would actually need a minimum wage?
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:25:05 No.3172327
>>3172258
Haha someone had a long chat with their dad on the way to lacrosse practice.
"Listen son"
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:26:41 No.3172329
>>3172232
>it only started to fail entirely because people had to fuck it up constantly screeching "IT JUST
DONT WORK MAN ITS JUST THEORY AND IT DON'T WORK"
Then it didn't work, if it can't work just because people bitch and moan about it, it's a flawed
plan
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:27:59 No.3172331
>>3172320
Because businesses are the leukocytes of a capitalist country's collective organism. They keep
the system running but don't you doubt for a second that they will eat your fucking children to
save a dime.
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:29:02 No.3172332
>>3172320
Some owners actually do fuck over workers, but the majority realize dicking your labor force and
the community is a pretty stupid idea
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:38:48 No.3172337
>"Waaaa"
>"Pioneers and innovators of the past century aren't entitled to their spoils!"
>"Whites have no heritage!"
>"The only way to peace is through Radical Islam!"
-Your Liberal GF
>> [_] Anonymous 11/06/16(Sun)01:43:04 No.3172340
work for free wagecucks
its the right thing to do
