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>> Anon 103721 /f/ IS DEAD FOREVER - REGROUP THREAD This is not a drill, 4chan mods confirmed in their blog that /f/ shall be gone, forever. https://blog.4chan.org/post/781845918774 394880/still-standing I suggest we use swfchan to regroup and decide if and where to migrate, to avoid a diaspora of our already small community. Let's spread the word that we are still here. In the meanwhile I made a list of active flashboards: 1. swfchan + old website, won't be going away any time + integrated archive * unorthodox format - cancer ads 2. 4taba.net/board/f * /jp/ spin-off + Yotsuba A CSS + /f/ layout + HTML5 allowed too 3. 8ch * 8chan * futaba layout 4. kissu.moe/f * /jp/ and pre-soijak /qa/ spin-off + /f/ layout - weird CSS 5. img.heyuri.net/f - owned by kuz of soyjak.party fame + /f/ layout + Futaba CSS 6. 22chan.org/f * Tomorrow CSS + /f/-like format [IMG] stillalive.swf (996.5 KiB) 550x400, Compressed (Deflate). 2137 frames, 12 fps (02:58). Ver9, AS3. Network access: Text: Yes. Bitmaps: Yes. Audio: Yes. Video: [find in archive]
>> Anon 103722 >># >portal is 17 years old I-I don't want to believe it. I mean, I have been playing sven coop with people that found the server on discord, but I still don't believe it.
>> Anon 103723 4chan has walked back on it's word many times. They killed [s4s] and then revived it when people said they wanted it. If we pussy out now, that's practically a gurantee that it'll never return and 4chan's specific flash culture will die. Post wherever you want but rally on 4chan to bring back /f/.
>> Anon 103724 4taba is read-only FYI, so that's not a good idea. The original admin decided to leave and the new one eventually lost interest in clearing certain illegal content multiple times every day since the software had no anti-spam protection. https://hikari3.ch/ is another place with a flash board. Actually I think a bunch of imageboards have flash boards, but I can't remember them all.
>> Anon 103725 4taba is read-only FYI, so that's not a good idea. The original admin decided to leave and the new one eventually lost interest in clearing certain illegal content multiple times every day since the software had no anti-spam protection. https://hikari3.ch/ is another place with a flash board. Actually I think a bunch of imageboards have flash boards, but I can't remember them all right now.
>> Anon 103726 Heyuri isn't owned by kuz anymore and *jaks are b&. The problem with Heyuri is that flashes don't die. The flash board has multiple pages, and they aren't even limited, the number of pages can technically keep growing forever as long as flashes are posted. It just wouldn't be the same as our /f/.
>> Anon 103727 8chan.moe board is dead, created in 2022 and no activity in 3 years.
>> Anon 103728 >># >it'll never return and 4chan's specific flash culture will die. Let the dead rest. Let a new spirit carry the torch. Immortality only exists because of the temporary.
>> Anon 103729 >># Despite what were promised one decade and a half ago no technology exists that replaces FLASH.
>> Anon 103730 >># >promised never trust promises from corporations A new leader needs to reign with flash. 4Chan is not such a leader anymore
>> Anon 103731 >># 4chan has not reigned in years. It only subsisted like any other flash board. Maybe a little better off but not a king. I am not letting go.
>> Anon 103732 >># then why are you complaining about 4chan flashes?
>> Anon 103733 >># Complaining? I want it back
>> Anon 103734 >># the past is the past. make it yourself or move on
>> Anon 103735 >># You can make your own imageboard, but you can't make your own community. No place will be like the /f/ that we had. What made /f/ /f/ was you guys, the community. The only way we can have another /f/ is if we all agree to be there.
>> Anon 103736 >># >You can make your own imageboard, but you can't make your own community. making things and playing show and tell is how you make a community >No place will be like the /f/ that we had. life and death are the same thing faggot >What made /f/ /f/ was you guys, the community. The only way we can have another /f/ is if we all agree to be there. Then make it. Google "How to make an imageboard" Then make it
>> Anon 103737 >># You don't get it. We already have plenty of imageboards. The problem is that we can't all agree which one to go to.
>> Anon 103738 >># then make one and commit to it or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out
>> Anon 103739 >># Defeatist. I'll keep rallying to bring back /f/ regardless of what other flash boards I use.
>> Anon 103741 >># >Defeatist yes you are And lazy at that
>> Anon 103742 >># >># >># Stop arguing like this guys. Just being rude and insulting the other one won't get us anywhere. We need to stick together.
>> Anon 103743 >># samefag
>> Anon 103744 >># Not quite true, as you cannot bump thread on page 2 (aka marked for deletion). Maybe you cannot even post in these threads, haven't tried. So far heyuri seems like my favorite choice, because as far as board culture goes, it seems even more ancient that 4um /f/. It has the most active threads and the most active leadership. The fucking admin even posts in thread there on /f/. Swfchan I disqualify, don't get me wrong I love the place and I will forever browse here, just that it serves a different purpose than the /f/ layout. I say fuck halfchan, they deserve it, it was the last straw and they fucked it up, it is now completely 100% no chance in hell over for them. We were 1 last haven in that shithole and they kicked us out. I won't return there, moot is dead. Accept reality.
>> Anon 103747 google is hellamad that flash still exists online. and hellamoremad that people still see it in their browsers. and hellapissed some of us wont upgrade to the spyware browsers and use old flash enabled browsers. so they hire hackers to attack 4chan and the tell 4chan "/f/ has to go". and because 4chan is run by unelected globalist cabal glowniggers that DOGE couldn't find, they just cowtou.
>> Anon 103748 If 4/f/ comes back, I'll go back. Especially seeing all the work people are doing to bring it back. I don't think they'll be successful, but I gotta respect the attempt. I think heyuri is the best choice. I'm not delighted about the pages and that the community has a fascination with lolis. However the admins are active, willing to take feedback, and has a culture that is the closest to 4/f/. I wouldn't mind swfchan either, but as another poster said it's for a different purpose.
>> Anon 103749 >># Ah, I was wondering where my daily dose of schizoposting went
>> Anon 103753 >># >kissu.moe/f >- weird CSS You can toogle the UI for a more traditional one.
>> Anon 103754 >># Also, we can use 2.0-chan.ru/f/ I don't think admin Ultrasemyon will be against it, he will be glad to see activity.
>> Anon 103756 >># Why heyuri over kissu, hikari3, or 22chan? >># I stand corrected. https://original.kissu.moe/f/ >># .ru sounds like a disaster waiting to happen >>#
>> Anon 103757 If you want 22chan's /f/ to be a certain way you can ask in one of their meta threads and they'll likely make it happen.
>> Anon 103761 >># hikari3 and 22chan /f/ are basically ghost towns kissu /f/ received 7 posts in the last 24 hours while heyuri /f/ received at least 75 posts
>> Anon 103762 There's too many altchans with /f/ boards. We will be spread too thin T_T
>> Anon 103764 >># I don't think the current activity matters. It's not like we are going to find posters there that didn't post on 4chan /f/ too. Having said that I wouldn't consider hikari3 since it seems to be a new website. Kissu doesn't seem to allow swastikas or guro which is NG. 22chan and Heyuri both seem opinionated about moderation, with some buzzwords and template posting being outright banned.
>> Anon 103766 >># i've been there before and kissu's mod team will try to enforce a certain feeling to the culture. like a forced smile with a gun in your back. you'll see if you post there often enough.
>> !///SWFAnts #ADMIN# 103769 f
>> Anon 103770 >># Activity matters because you can't just claim some abandoned board as everyone's new home and realistically expect everyone to come over. Even people here on swfchan are just a fraction of /f/ users. That said I'm good with anywhere that won't moderate contents of flash files beyond shit like soyjaks, which all our alternatives seem to ban.
>> Anon 103773 >You can post most /b/ shit (loli, nudez... what else they had?), swastikas or gay men, japanese cats or touhous >You can't post most /pol/ shit (how much you want to kill X people, your meltdown over the last post of twitter BigMan etc), pepe/soyjaks, some modern buzzwords people throw around, greentext stories, generally try to ruin rule abiding users' enjoyment of the internets, etc. >I believe most actual 4/f/ users won't be filtered by Heyuri's rules, maybe some will try to quote something noone said or use their favorite modern 4chan slang at most. I also generally don't want to ban any well-intentioned users, and prefer giving private or public warns. But like any place, we have our rules the new users must learn to follow too This is what Heyuri's admin answered when asked about moderation. Personally I don't find those much of a big deal, some of them should have been implemented on 4chan long ago, but they are still a far cry from /f/ which was truly everything goes. What do you guys think? I don't want to risk to splinter our community even further.
>> Anon 103774 >># >I mean, I have been playing sven coop with people that found the server on discord, but I still don't believe it. What the fuck are you talking about?
>> Anon 103775 I am so sad!
>> Anon 103776 >># Indeed, but the goal is to have the activity of /f/ maintained not replace it with heyuri's, so consolidation of a more central migration and integration with swfchan scraping matters the most. The preexisting activity is only reassuring in that it indicates that the host will have continued interest in maintaining the site. When 8chan died, backups existed for such an occasion but even then because of it's sudden nature and the choice between multiple of them (for crossboarders) probably 80-90% of the activity was completely lost, for /f/ it would be worse because of the smaller quantity and because it leaves it vague as to where to post new things, 8chan at least had the webring, no such thing will exist here and keeping track of multiple would probably be more a bother than most are willing. Personally, I'd rather not go to heyuri, everytime I have I leave with the impression that it's the epitome of hugbox/circlejerk altchans; where people go to collectively larp according to an image, in this case as oldfags. And sifting through their catalog, I don't feel much different. The socially contrived nature of the gathering often results in obnoxious social tendencies and little substance. In the end even though the image is not as repulsive, it feels little different behaviourly than people who solely speak in buzzwords on 4chan with a wojak/pepe attached if anything. And regardless of the accuracy of the imitation/lingo, lacking the genuinity and consequent originality, it becomes grating. But ultimately, bitching aside, the focus on /f/ being the files themselves, so long as the files posted remain interesting which itself may hopefully spur new stuff being posted there, those aspects don't matter so much. And I suppose it could be argued that regardless of my distaste the high majority of flash content itself is locked to time, should be seen as befitting, and as such they're clearly willing to host it, and so to that end it's beneficial. So that's all to say that if that's the place of choice, I'd still go along with and just use /f/. However the stance on moderation is a stance to die on, from what I've seen those places tend to be ironically sterile and ripe to annoying mod practices in an attempt to maintain culture, in the manner that anon above said about kissu and as what seems to be the case given >># , which in the context of a general-creativity oriented topic (which /f/ is with the only topic being the medium) such would be unacceptable. And when that culture is clearly set in stone as detailed above, regardless of it's superficial alignment with /f/, I simply don't trust integrity regarding it, especially not with /f/'s breadth. Would sit_harder.swf be banned, Happy Tree Friends? What of that game where you spear the loli by traversing your tentacle through her, or the yeti gore that was just posted? Or consider that prolific ic anon's OC recently, none of the topic matter is particularly grotesque but the artstyle is often seen as such and some anon's go out of there way to express disgust, if enough people wanted it gone, would admin keel over? Screamers? They say no /pol/ and I don't care for political discussion either but then where does that leave the festivities that occur on 9/11 or all the other bush posts and what of hitler's glowsticks? etc. If the admin wants to serve the 'new /f/' or whatever then that involves accepting moderation which only bans clear flooding.
>> Anon 103777 >># I get your point, but those examples are really shitty. Literally none of those would be banned.
>> Anon 103778 >># Yeah, upon reflection, they are. But I tried to exemplify ones that would be potentially brought in contention by more extreme ones being excluded and also because I don't save the majority of those to know how to quickly refer to the and I don't feel like describing them in absence of a referral. I suppose I could list goatse and the sounding vid named Monday_Returns since they're common enough.
>> Anon 103782 Unfortunately, the closure of the **/f/** board on 4chan is a real blow to the niche communities that have preserved the culture of Flash content and SWF art for decades. But even in such conditions have ways to preserve their heritage and adapt. Here are some suggestions: --- ### **1. Alternative platforms for communication** - **Other imageboards**: — **8kun (formerly 8chan)**: Similar boards may appear there, but the platform is controversial due to moderation. — **Russian-language imageboards** (for example, **Dvach**): Sometimes threads are created for niche topics, but the audience is different. — **Specialized forums**: For example, **Newgrounds** (historically associated with Flash culture) or **Ovarit** (for 4chan emigrants). - **Discord and Telegram**: Closed servers or channels where you can share SWF files, discuss emulators and remasters. - **Meme archives**: Sites like **Archive.org**, **Yesterweb**, **Yiff.party**, where they preserve digital heritage, including Flash art. --- ### **2. Saving and adapting content** - **SWF archiving**: — **Flashpoint Archive** (by BlueMaxima) is a giant collection of saved Flash games and animations (over 150,000 items). — **New releases** can be uploaded to **Internet Archive** with tags so that like-minded people can find them. - **Conversion to modern formats**: — Tools like **Ruffle** (for embedding SWF on websites) or **Adobe Animate** (export to HTML5). — Remasters of old SWF projects with open source code (put on GitHub). - **Flash environment emulation**: — **Ruffle** already supports many old files, and its integration into browsers allows you to run content without risks. --- ### **3. Cultural Response: Niche Communities Don't Die** History shows that even after platforms die (e.g. **GeoCities**, **Vine**, **Flash**), enthusiasts preserve content through: - **Fandom Archives**: Like anime culture or retrogaming. - **New Formats**: There's nothing stopping you from creating SWF art "for yourself" and posting it as a video on YouTube or TikTok with hashtags like #FlashRevival. - **Irony and Nostalgia**: Memes about the "death of Flash" and creative uses of its aesthetics in pixel art or glitch art. --- ### **4. Risks and Challenges** - **Loss of Context**: Many SWF memes and animations were only understandable within the /f/ board. Without it, the content can become a "museum exhibit" without a live audience. - **Legality**: Some SWF files contain pirated or controversial content - their archiving may raise questions. - **Technical limitations**: Even Ruffle is not perfect - some scripts and animations will work with errors. --- ### **5. The future? It is here!** The closure of /f/ is the end of an era, but not the end of a culture. Remember how the **MS Paint Fanart** or **Demoscene** communities survived dozens of technological apocalypses. **What can be done right now**: - Save unique SWF files from /f/ to archives. - Create a kind of "wiki" or catalog with a description of memes and their authors. - Use the Flash aesthetic in new projects (for example, games in the style of Newgrounds of the 2000s). Bitards are masters of adaptation. If earlier they survived through absurdity and self-irony, now they will be able to move to new formats... or simply quietly find their bearings in a corner of the Internet, as often happens with niche subcultures. 💾✨
>> Anon 103783 >># >https://original.kissu.moe/f/ Not bad, but a hecking lot of threads, I prefer single page that fits on a screen whole (with/without more pages beyond that). Also they maintain their own specialized chanboard software, which makes something like the 4chan happening extremely unlikely there in the future. >># Probably: We old here. >># f pressed >># Wow that sounds like some shit AI would spout. Don't fault you for trying to contribute though. Also: I spoke with admin of heyuri and he will consider including hotlinks to swfs on swfchan from the thread, just like with 4chanX. Even considering this and opening the communication is a giant step above many other chans, as well as 4chan. I get what >># says about the feel of people there seeming somewhat ... off. Logically I cannot find any fault, because it's just better older culture and no shitty modern ban policy, only MORE netiquette which WAS the style at the time (2005). It might just be the culture shock. Maybe a lot of /f/ags congregating there will cure that and make it feel more "at home". Admin has been pretty lenient about everything so it's worth a try. I won't even object bannind LE SHITTY ONELINER responses a la /pol/ though I'm not for it as well. Idk, I stand with the heyuri. But it's not like we're short on time to decide. As long as everyone forever remembers swfchan exists (as you should), it will be alright.
>> Anon 103784 >># Whoops. That's what you get from blogposting. >Also they maintain their own specialized chanboard software, which makes something like the 4chan happening extremely unlikely there in the future. is supposed to refer to heyuri
>> Anon 103790 I was made aware that apparently the admin of heyuri is a janitor on 4chan /jp/, the same team that is forcing and babysitting a literal bl*cked ntr thread on the board. Thanks but no thanks.
>> Anon 103791 >># >I was made aware that apparently do you believe everything you read on the internet? even if that were true, how do you confirm who was babysitting which thread? /jp/ has few great generals.
>> Anon 103793 Hey Ants, if you're reading this, do you plan on having swfchan index flashes posted on Heyuri in the future?
>> Anon 103805 >># I'm in Russia right now and connecting to 2.0-chan feels like it's been slowed down like youtube. And yet, if I'll ever learn to make SWFs, I'll be posting them as well as here
>> !///SWFAnts #ADMIN# 103807 >># I don't want to demoralize or over-promise in a regroup thread so close to it being created.
>> Anon 103808 >># I also have problems connecting to 2.0-chan.ru without a VPN. Apparently, admin has gone too far with the /pol/itics. It's interesting that it's hosted on .ru. Can't Roskomnadzor really close sites on .ru/.su/.рф domains and can only block them?
>> Rare Flash Collector 103809 >># I don't think it's realistic to think that they'll bring it back by virtue of the will of our community if they took down posting capabilities due to security concerns. The exploit that took down 4chan was an outdated PDF upload-based attack. If they're wising up to the vulnerabilities that come with running outdated software, they will continuously wise up to the vulnerabilities that come with Flash as a medium, regardless of what we do. It's unhelpful to hold out and wait on them to change their minds when it's both not in their best interest to do so and they're very clearly demonstrating an unwillingness to shift. We need to pick a place to jump to and stay there. Even if your miracle of a scenario came true, it would be better to hold tight elsewhere and return to 4chan someday than sit here and do nothing, waiting for that miracle to come.
>> Anon 103810 >># Relatedly, do you have a public list of sites you're indexing from somewhere?
>> Anon 103814 >># It looks like you're just as retarded as the 4chan administration. .swf files were never a security problem for servers since they weren't being ran by the servers. 4chan doesn't even thumbnail them like they did with PDFs. The only vulnerabilities of flash were in the client, which 4chan doesn't have any reason to care about.
>> Anon 103815 >># Well, they can block any site in spite of its domain (as long as there is a good reason to). Not sure if they can just close (take down?) sites on Russian domains, which are only .ru and .рф (.su doesn't belong to any country in fact, since Soviet Union is no more), but why 2.0-chan is being slowed down like youtube - that's a mystery to me.
>> Anon 103821 There's a thread over on /g/ attempting to resolve whatever tbe percieved risks are in flash, which as has been said is negated by the fact that ruffle sandboxes them and nothing is done by the server side except hosting the files. I wish then luck but the 'security concerns' look to just be an excuse for their indifference.
>> Anon 103825 Need to put pressure on 4chan.org admins! Need to get them to bring back /f/!
>> Anon 103857 >># And how exactly do you want us to do that?
>> Rare Flash Collector 103860 >># >It looks like you're just as retarded as the 4chan administration. And your argument is that we should rely on 4chan administration?
>> Anon 103861 looks like you're in the same special ed category as these guys >># >># >>#
>> Anon 103866 >># I never said that they would bring /f/ back. All I said was that they had no valid reason to remove it.
>> Anon 103869 Darn, big things are happening in the flash culture? (that i wasn't even aware of in the first place) Finally something new other than occasionally tagging flashes in here, Though It sucks seeing 4chan's /f/ die since most of the flashes that spawn in here are from 4chan are very varied, like either porn, random ass flash file, or a fun game of sorts.
>> Anon 103877 >># I'm not giving up on /f/ this easily. I'm probably naive and my likely my optimism is stupid(I'd really like some lainchan language enhancing for this one) but I believe that if we build them a solid board and offer to maintain it on the technical side, they don't actually hate /f/ and may resurrect it.
>> Anon 103879 >># They won't let someone else maintain a part of their site
>> Anon 103890 >># What does "someone else" mean? I don't think the 4chan admins are related to each other in some way outside of having worked together for long.
>> Anon 103891 >># If you're not part of the 4chan team you're someone else. To be part of the 4chan team you need to have an official role like admin, mod, janny, etc. Although, knowing how the site operates they probably won't accept maintenance not even from jannies, you'd have to be at least a mod for the offer to be considered, and even then, knowing how retarded the administration is, they'd still probably refuse it.
>> Anon 103894 >># They're not bringing it back. You underestimate just how understaffed, apathetic, and underpaid 4chan staff is. In the wake of getting BTFO'd on every level, they are not going to reopen /f/ even if Jesus came down from heaven with verifiable proof that they cannot get hacked again via flash upload. They will not do it. There's no protesting, research, or "doing it for them" that will ever convince them. If they say it's dead, it's dead. That will you have within you not to give up is not something to abandon. Channel it into the impetus to let this thing live on. We should channel our efforts into making a new site that contains just the /f/ board in the exact style with no vichan or tinychan bullshit with the same 30 slots. We in this thread could take turns moderating it, should a generous anon be willing to host the site.

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[_] Still alive Anon 3454666 We are still alive
>> [_] Anon 3454749 :)

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[_] Long live Anon 3289743 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 3289770 nICE TIMING.
>> [_] Anon 3289773 >># I had to sit and listen in reverence. Portal came out when I was a Sophmore in High School. Not gonna lie, I cried a little bit too.
>> [_] Anon 3289792 sage this meecrob. Combo broken failure.
>> [_] Anon 3289816 >># They were simpler times. I could care less about portal, but those memes...that is something we will never see again. RIP /b/
>> [_] Anon 3289821 >># This. Disgusting.
>> [_] Sammy 3289887 >># >Portal 3 never >Half-Life 3 never Man, where did valve go so wrong...

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[_] [?] For the people who are still alive Anon 1380997
>> [_] Cheeto !!jdqR9pMkmHT 1380999 I lol'd at Mitchell, near the end
>> [_] Anon 1381007 I liked the Budd Dwyer. (PAfag here, wiki it...)
>> [_] Anon 1381078 Even back in 2007 /b/ was total garbage.
>> [_] Anon 1381088 This is only worth making a flash over if the entire song was sung without any combo breakers. Fuck this flash.

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>> [_] Anon 1370957 Lol wut
>> [_]  1371130 It can be forgot, it was interfered with too many times.

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[_] [L] LIES!!! Anon 880801
>> [_] Anon 880806 wow....
>> [_] Anon 880808 This was a triumph
>> [_] Anon 880817 I'm making a note here: HUEG SUCCESS!!!
>> [_] Anon 880821 It's hard to overstate my satisfaction
>> [_] Anon 880824 GO BACK TO /B/!!!!!!!!!
>> [_] CACTUAR 880826 >># aperture Science
>> [_] Anon 880880 FAIL
>> [_] Anon 880886 we do what we must...
>> [_] Anon 880915 because
>> [_] CACTUAR 880917 ...we can
>> [_] Anon 880943 F/