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[_] Another normal day on /f/ Anon 3497862 Meanwhile the rest of the site imploded.
>> [_] Anon 3497894 >># what happened? i only check /f/ every few days anymore.
>> [_] Anon 3497905 >># cloudflare went killmode after a lain general was posted on /x/

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[_] Lowtax Is No More Anon 3476153 I'm not going to pretend like I ever visited Something Awful. Still, this seems appropriate.
>> [_] Anon 3476206 rip
>> [_] Anon 3476208 f
>> [_] Anon 3476224 still hard to believe right on the heels of the shit that always happens when One Of Those Sites changes hands
>> [_] Anon 3476270 >># >right on the heels there's an expression you don't hear every day

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[_] /f/ sucks today Anon 3473037
>> [_] Anon 3473047 >># how does it differ from any other day?
>> [_] Anon 3473085 >># business as usual then
>> [_] Anon 3473086 have you tried making it a better place?

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[_] Ded Anon 3467940 >4chan was down >/f/ not even affected Share your thoughts.
>> [_] Anon 3467945 >># /f/ is happening collectively in the minds of the visitors so no server issues affect it
>> [_] Anon 3467994 second time in as many weeks wonder what's up
>> [_] Anon 3468021 >># Everything starts to make sense now.

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[_] Good Night, Yotsuba! Anon 3462205 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 3462244 >># yotsuba! is the first manga I read on my kindle3 almost 10 years ago the kindle still works but my eyes are getting tired and now I have much bigger boox note for manga I don't read that much anymore tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJGKyiG PyQ
>> [_] Anon 3462303 >># anime adoption WHEN? i don't agree with people that says it could never be done.

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[_] † NEARER MY GOD TO THEE † Anon 3265858 https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/20 17/07/adobe-flash-update.html >Adobe is planning to end-of-life Flash. Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats. It has been a fun time. Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 3265859 What will happen to /f/ once flash is kill in 2020?
>> [_] Anon 3265861 Hi mod-san, they've been encouraging content creators to fuck off for years now, and the flash plugin/sa downloads have been buried in their AIDS-ridden piece of shit site where it's hard to find for even longer. I don't think they've sold the flash creation software on its own without being part of a bundle for a long time. Maybe this will inspire more work on gnash or shumway to come into parity, or maybe adobe will be pressured into letting the source for flashplayer go. Either way the only change here is a date to download the standalone player by.
>> [_] Anon 3265862 >># >NEARER MY GOD TO THEE you should make the name of this stickied thread a little more obvious (like the previous thread >>#)
>> [_] Anon 3265863 >># Sticky? What the fuck do you mean sticky? And why the fuck does a sticky have a flash with a filename from 4plebs?
>> [_] Anon 3265864 >># It is a good thing they are finally getting rid of it, in my opinion. There's too many exploits and issues with security. I already blocked Flash on my browser. >># This thread may garner enough replies to appear interesting soon enough. Unfortunately, there is no sticky icon visible in the index.
>> [_] Anon 3265865 >>>/tg/54519286
>> [_] Anon 3265868 like I asked in the other thread will the standalone flash player projector still work by then? https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplaye r/debug_downloads.html I still use it for playing mid 2000 era flash games
>> [_] Anon 3265869 >># It's not like flash depends on a 3rd party server to run unless the SWF itself does. The projector will still work, it'll just be a security nightmare.
>> [_] Anon 3265870 >># They might spare it, but they also might GPL both the flash and shockwave players so someone else can still make use of them past 2020.
>> [_] Anon 3265871 >># As long as you have downloaded it by then, you won't be able to get the download anymore. Unless the flash you're trying to play has some networked content. Which you should be sandboxing out anyway it's already a terrible idea to let flash communicate with the internet.
>> [_] Anon 3265873 posting in a double sticky
>> [_] Anon 3265874 >># I don't know why it does that, lel.
>> [_] Anon 3265875 >># they won't due to patent licensing issues
>> [_] Anon 3265876 >># >posted as a sticky >Then turned into a sticky yotsuba is terrible code and this is all vacbob's fault I have no doubt.
>> [_] Anon 3265878 yfw 4chan is going to replace it with a HTML5 canvas based redistributable format and we'll enter a new age of content creation.
>> [_] Anon 3265879 >># don't bully mvb, he tries
>> [_] Anon 3265880 >># Well, maybe they'll release what they can or do it under a permissive license. Sun released most of java of what they could when they released the source code back in 2006 with only third party graphics related stuff not released.
>> [_] Anon 3265881 >># You're a rudeposter.
>> [_] Anon 3265882 >># >there is finally a proof of Mod existence and is actually right here right now >he makes a sticky rather than getting rid of shitty youtuberips also thanks for reducing the flash limit from 30 to 29
>> [_] Anon 3265883 >Flash and MS Paint outlived Chester Bennington tried so hard and got so far
>> [_] Anon 3265885 >># seconded youtube rips are the cancer destroying this board
>> [_] Anon 3265886 >># I know, as I recall he was the only one who even read the queue for the frog and my beloved OG /vip/. I just think this is one of the many stupid things the inline extension does bad for the very few things it does good, the classic default posting style was more condusive to not being a web 3.0 social media retard. >># But at the very least some of the people who have some inkling of the importance of the culture around flash on the internet will call for a cleanroom developed alternative with parity I hope.
>> [_] Anon 3265887 >># You do know that you should report posts like this, right?
>> [_] Anon 3265888 /html5/ when?
>> [_] Anon 3265889 >># >implying Hiro gives enough of a shit to make it He probably doesn't even know /f/ exists.
>> [_] Anon 3265890 >># >># Enforce /f/ rule #1.
>> [_] Anon 3265891 >># to be fair, moot didn't really realise /f/ existed most of the time either.
>> [_] Anon 3265892 >># it's already here, m8 >>>/gif/
>> [_] Anon 3265893 >># >not interactive >4mb limit heck the heck off?!?!
>> [_] Anon 3265895 >># The HTML5 working standard isn't a good replacement for flash, especially not with EME baked in. There really isn't and never will be a real replacement because the niche that flash filled was stupid and incidental, vector graphics animations based on input that was hacked into games and movie players, the closest we're ever going to have is unity web apps.
>> [_] Anon 3265896 >># >unity web apps. Plugins are dying unless browsers have the ability to natively play unity web apps
>> [_] Anon 3265897 >># Remember the one time everyone posted Dr. Katz and it got deleted. Everyone cried and moaned about it.
>> [_] Anon 3265898 /g/ here. Sad to see it go but glad it's gone.
>> [_] Anon 3265899 >># at least we're gonna have endless amounts of pron inbetween our migration threads. /f/ will become a neo-/f/ community shitposting throughout time
>> [_] Anon 3265900 >># fuck off //pol/ with smartphones/
>> [_] Anon 3265901 4chan should switch to /f/-only mode for 3 years and increase the thread limit to 500.
>> [_] Anon 3265902 >># so he's gonna be the same or maybe even worse? also don't forget that 5 days IP block range that happened this year. Nobody said shit about it and the only answer was given on a thread on /qa/ https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/130524 1/#1305241
>> [_] Anon 3265903 >># Please don't bunch us in with those undesirable people. Believe me, I hate them as much as you do and respect the culture of this very special historical board.
>> [_] Anon 3265905 >># >Plugins are dying Browsers are dying, the codebase for mozilla and chrome and their derivatives (anything using libwebkit, geko, or that shitty safari one) have become infinitely more complex and all we've gained for it is less supported tags and more shitty javascript "features". HTTP 2.0 is a flaming shitheap and even with the standard being bad all vendors only implement parts of it, and not the same parts. Plugins helped maintain compatibility and extension features, but those are being pushed out in favor of stupid shit like node.js. We need a simple browser with support for a standard secure community version of flash that is stable.
>> [_] Anon 3265906 I always knew this day would come... But I wasn't ready. >># Damn it, we're not dead yet! >># Unity killed of their web player but they do have WebGL support. I don't know if that exports to a single self-contained file though. It's not even close to the same anyway, they don't have vector graphics or any animation/timeline tools. It's a game engine, nobody would make loops in it. Guys just keep in mind that even though official support is gone it doesn't mean the format dies. There are still people around making things for the Amiga. If anything there's a chance that this will make us feel closer to each other than we've ever been!
>> [_] Anon 3265908 >># When flash is no longer worked on, the format can be reversed engineered to be forever supported.
>> [_] Anon 3265909 they would be 200 retarded for just killing flash, instead of creating a final version and never updating it again. >oh were adobe and were cumrag mushroom retarded, were just gonna kill the thing that made us gabillionaires and have no way of ever getting it back fuck off adobe, i want my falling sand copies, i want millions of mediocre to kinda entertaining games, i want my "what day is it" homo cavalcade, and i want my zankuro flashes. is that too much to ask?
>> [_] Anon 3265910 >># the spec is already open, it's just a nightmare to implement
>> [_] Anon 3265911 >># There used to be a standalone shockwave player too, but it's lost to time along with all the shockwave projects that were ever created. Spybotics - The Nightfall Incident can't be played without fucking up your browser installation with an ancient download, there needs to be a drop-in replacement for flash if anything is to be preserved.
>> [_] Anon 3265912 >># Too bad the later zankuro games left flash behind for some other format, same with Erotic Condenser so they sadly don't get posted on /f/ anymore.
>> [_] Anon 3265913 >># Biomediaproject has an ancient version of mozilla thunderbird available for download specifically for use of various shockwave games that only work with it like spybotics or galidor quest.
>> [_] Anon 3265914 >># >don't forget that 5 days IP block range that happened this year >the only answer was given on a thread on /qa/ you mean this? "If you're seeing the message in pic related while posting on any board, you're running into a Cloudflare issue. We can't do anything to speed up the process, but it is being worked on." -- mod on /qa/ Not much of an answer. It's basically just saying that 4chan isn't the one doing the blocking, the content distributor is. Doesn't explain why.
>> [_] Anon 3265915 I can't wait for Adobe to pull the Nintendo card in 20 years announcing miniFlash with all the flashes for 10 dollars each
>> [_] Anon 3265916 >># That shit's going straight on eBay
>> [_] Anon 3265917 >># yeah I meant that one reply from mod in that thread. at least someone checked what's wrong and didn't let us hang on a noose
>> [_] Anon 3265918 >># and 6 months later they'll announce miniShockwave that will have the same fate
>> [_] Anon 3265919 The worst thing about replacing flash with HTML5 is that we can no longer keep phoneposters out this way.
>> [_] Anon 3265921 >># but you can view flashes from phone, tho
>> [_] Anon 3265923 >># They want to not be held responsible for any future problems flash may cause. If they make a final version but make it still officially available it's possible that some huge exploit is discovered in 2030 and media comes to bite them in the ass for it. What they should do is make an open-source GitHub repository for the browser plugin and just bask in the goodwill it would create for the company. That way the community would at least have a way to patch any exploits if discovered and there's a chance the format could improve. I bet there are people out there that would love to build upon swf but don't have the time to create everything from scratch.
>> [_] Anon 3265924 >># Adobe should be contacted by any means necessary to pressure them on open sourcing adobe flash player.
>> [_] Anon 3265926 >># you're right, they should have made a global announcement to calm everybody's tits about what's going on instead of leaving many hanging
>> [_] Anon 3265928 I think I'll gather a massive folder of swf. This format literally holds my personal internet grow-up story in it. I'll get the newest possible installer of flash player when it's close to... ceasing to be, and take it all in an external drive. Maybe a flash player 7 or 8 as well, for the older ones. I can't think why adobe doesn't think of the flash based games and interactive sites when publishing this information. We have had sites like Miniclip, Kongregate, Armor Games, Addictinggames etc that are 100% flash player games.
>> [_] Anon 3265930 I'll miss z0r.
>> [_] Anon 3265934 >># kongregate et al aren't 100% flash games anymore AFAIK
>> [_] Anon 3265936 >># Rule 1 is too vague and everyone has their own different definition on what's japanese culture. Some people think video games made by a japanese corporation is japanese culture while others think only VNs are.
>> [_] Anon 3265938 >># Adobe made money with typesetting technology.
>> [_] Anon 3265942 >sticky
>> [_] Anon 3265961 >># False, I regularly phonepost from Android 4.1.1 over 3G. I know others do too. HTML5 will change nothing, except to redefine Flash = ".swf content" to Flash = "the entire fucking web" HTML5 is so vaporous and broad, Flash is a specific file format for a specific type of content. We won't be seeing this board go any year soon, and new content will continue to appear as long as there is a machine still running a copy of .swf-exporting CS or CC. The scales and feathers will only change a bit. Shit evolves. Technological Darwinism.
>> [_] Anon 3265965 you, you DOUBLE STICKY but seriously, this sucks. /f/ was one of the first boards I started coming to regularly.
>> [_] Anon 3265966 >># Dang
>> [_] Nurse 3265967 >># I got banned, for a day kek Months ago it was originally me then another anon joined in and since we haven't posted at all for the day, we were wanting to max our posts all just katz and then a third anon joined in. I wake up the next day and I'm banned for a few hours. worth
>> [_] Anon 3265974 >># >except to redefine >Flash = "the entire fucking web" im sorry but that sounded so stupid i had to laugh
>> [_] Anon 3265979 rest in peace?
>> [_] Anon 3265984 >a file format made to display vector graphics somehow manages to be have major security holes Pretty sure they could just scrap anything security related from the animation aspect of flash and voila : virus free swf
>> [_] Anon 3265986 PARTY HARD
>> [_] Anon 3265990 Don't be sad its over, be happy it happened anons In the past decade i have had some of my best memories with all you guys, its been great See you space cowboy(in 3 years time at least)
>> [_] Anon 3265993 >># Mods rarely say anything publicly. But mods have never forgotten about /f/. I'm idling in #4chan and they sometimes post the links to flashes from here. Also they said they are working on the issue with range block in IRC in the very first day. It's just not a single anon bothered to repost this information in /f/.
>> [_] Anon 3265994 guys hold me
>> [_] Anon 3265995 >># FUCK YOU ADOBE YOU FAT LAZY CUNTS!
>> [_] Anon 3265997 >># You need at least flash 19 as well, adobe broke compatibility with a bunch of things with flash 20. Including older zone animations.
>> [_] FLASHY ANON 3265998 HE'S FOR EVERYONE OF US!
>> [_] Anon 3266007 We're gonna need more screencaps for the next few years
>> [_] Anon 3266012 >># >># >># this we need html5 containers
>> [_] Anon 3266018 Well this sucks. What's the alternative to Flash for web game developers?
>> [_] Anon 3266019 All of the alternatives are shit with frequently larger filesizes, with even less functionality, and don't really do or achieve the same goals. This is >oh shit nigger what are you doing -tier.
>> [_] Anon 3266021 >># suicide
>> [_] Anon 3266022 >># HTML5 canvas, of course. Haven't you been paying attention?
>> [_] Anon 3266025 I TRIED SO HARD
>> [_] Anon 3266026 how sad, flash was a big part when i was very young, porn, games, almost everything in that time, and now is literally a security disgrace, sleep well flash
>> [_] Anon 3266029 Why the fuck is everyone making such a big deal over this? First off, it's not happening for another 3 years, and besides, no one posts OC on /f/ anymore.
>> [_] Anon 3266030 >># Flash is part of internet culture, it's sad to see it die, but also because there is no drop in replacement for it.
>> [_] Anon 3266037 if they delete flash I will suck a wolf cock you CAN'T do it
>> [_] Anon 3266038 I hope something can be done to keep /f/ alive in some form, even if it means making it /html5/ instead. It's one of the few decent boards left, even if there's almost no OC.
>> [_] Anon 3266039 >># I post OC sometimes
>> [_] Anon 3266040 >># from what I understand, hiro ran 2ch the same way moot ran 4chan; that is, barely running it at all, which is probably why we haven't seen any significant changes when hiro took over
>> [_] Anon 3266041 >># you sound like a redditor
>> [_] Anon 3266042 >># construct 2 https://www.scirra.com/arcade/top-addict ing-games
>> [_] Anon 3266044 >># and you sound like a butthorn. Also, wtf is a 'redditor'? Is that your mum's brand of dildo?
>> [_] Anon 3266049 >># 4chan will be gone by 2020
>> [_] Anon 3266052 >># >stupid shit like node.js >bringing up node.js in the context of web browsers I fear you're talking out of your ass, anon.
>> [_] F 3266053 ;_;7
>> [_] Anon 3266054 >># >># you all forgot this is Adobe
>> [_] Anon 3266056 >># ther number 1 (800) 833-6687
>> [_] Anon 3266058 >># What part of "here forever" do you not understand?
>> [_] Anon 3266060 RIP best board You were too good for this world
>> [_] Anon 3266061 >2020 man Ill probably be dead in a ditch somewhere by then.
>> [_] Anon 3266062 Help.
>> [_] Anon 3266064 >># At the very least you can say you tried
>> [_] Anon 3266066 >># true
>> [_] Anon 3266067 RIP /f/, you were my homeboard for years F
>> [_] Anon 3266071 >># i love you guys what will we do after 2020??
>> [_] Anon 3266072 >># Those of us unfortunate enough to have survived to see the end will all gather in ritual suicide at :v's house.
>> [_] Anon 3266073 >># source on song?
>> [_] Anon 3266074 >># okay
>> [_] Anon 3266076 >># https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mEnl2LJ FHw
>> [_] Anon 3266078 >># bless you anon
>> [_] Anon 3266080 >># What's the ritual gonna be like? Will there be an orgy beforehand?
>> [_] Anon 3266083 we all nee to dm @Adobe on twitter and ask them to give out the source code
>> [_] Anon 3266084 >># yes but because this is 4chan it will be a gay one
>> [_] Anon 3266086 >># We'll draw a big flash logo on the ground with our feces then masturbate onto it furiously. Last one to spill his seed on the shit /f/ has to behead the rest and is forced to stay behind on this awful planet.
>> [_] Anon 3266088 >># What if we invited traps?
>> [_] :v 3266089 I'm s-sure by 2020 we will all have moved on and started living p-productive lives r-right? >A way will be found and shitposting will continue as normal.
>> [_] Anon 3266090 >># I think I'll miss you most of all scarecrow
>> [_] Anon 3266093 I want a board where I can just upload arbitrary HTML5 files. Put the files on a different domain to prevent same-origin attacks. I'm sure idiots would find a way to give up their facebook logins or something equally dumb, but who cares?
>> [_] Anon 3266094 Even though I've been here not for so long (around since I don't know 2013), /f/ feels more like a home than all the other boards combined, especially more than fucking /v/ and /b/.
>> [_] Anon 3266095 >># flash version actually beats the original. the flash uses the drumless middle section, just slowed down. OP's flash doesn't loop seamlessly though. the original MACHINECODEISNOMORE.swf has a seamless repeat (also higher audio bitrate)
>> [_] Anon 3266096 >># that's what I thought about 2017 five years ago. here i am.
>> [_] Anon 3266097 >># no traps on 4chan only man who fap to them
>> [_] Anon 3266098 >># cool
>> [_] Anon 3266102 I think now's the perfect time to ask this, who's :v?
>> [_] Anon 3266103 >># It's >># him.
>> [_] Anon 3266105 >># how didn't I notice this tripfag earlier? am I retarded?
>> [_] Anon 3266107 >># >tripfag Yes, you are
>> [_] Anon 3266108 >># >tripfag
>> [_] Anon 3266109 I've been on /f/ for 10 years now and I still have no fucking clue how to make flash videos
>> [_] Anon 3266110 >># >># okay okay I sorry, but since when is he around?
>> [_] Anon 3266112 >># Now is the perfect time to learn!
>> [_] Anon 3266113 >># How do I get started? I can't draw well but I'm trying. No idea where to get any programs that would make flash stuff
>> [_] Anon 3266115 >># I only made a single 4 frames + song loop because the original version of it was a fucking 6mb VIDEO in shittier quality due to encoding.
>> [_] Anon 3266116 If this board gets deleted where are you guys moving to?
>> [_] Anon 3266117 >># cracked version of adobe flash
>> [_] Anon 3266118 >># Where can I download one? Literally any torrent site I've used is a honeypot or has gone down
>> [_] Anon 3266119 >># NOT /gif/ NOT /wsg/ Those places have NO soul.
>> [_] Anon 3266120 >># /bant/ and /s4s/
>> [_] Anon 3266122 >># this, it's just vinefaggotry and porn.
>> [_] Anon 3266123 >># Just use thepiratebay...
>> [_] Anon 3266124 >># >using a honeypot I don't want to get a letter from my ISP because I downloaded flash
>> [_] :v 3266125 >># I only started posting under :v roughly a year ago. Hi /f/ren >He lol
>> [_] :v 3266127 >># Just get a cheap vpn and setup a trash box to pirate and test wares Jesus what is it 2001?
>> [_] Anon 3266129 >># keep up making good music! hope you get somewhere with it someday. Also have a good day! you made mine a good one for sure.
>> [_] Anon 3266130 >># Yes, because I don't live in America friendo so I can't just "get a cheap VPN" because it's illegal here
>> [_] :v 3266133 >># Thank /f/ren >># I see, are services like socks5 tunnels accessable? I think a big name one is tunnel bear?
>> [_] Anon 3266134 >># You're a fucking idiot. It doesn't matter where you get a torrent file from. Your ISP could track it either way if you're not using a vpn.
>> [_] Anon 3266135 >># >tripfag >retarded The Magic Mirror says YES >># YOU MAKE IT IN FLASH >># Wow, do you still make fire by rubbing sticks together?
>> [_] Anon 3266136 >># >test wares LOL why did I misread that as "test whores"? See what 4chan has done to me?
>> [_] :v 3266138 >># Ruined your reading comprehension? I'm sorry Anon, they have DVDs for that Hooked on something or other
>> [_] Anon 3266139 >># how many fingers can you fit inside your vagina?
>> [_] Anon 3266141 >># Hooked on Hydroponics, IIRC
>> [_] Anon 3266142 >># >># no actually I think it was hooked on homophobics
>> [_] Anon 3266144 >># No, it was hooked on Homophones.
>> [_] Anon 3266145 so weird seeing so many replies in /f/
>> [_] Anon 3266148 I honestly don't know what I'd do without you, guys. Please don't leave me.
>> [_] Anon 3266150 >># Hey wait a minute... >Where we’ve seen a need to push content and interactivity forward, we’ve innovated to meet those needs. Where a format didn’t exist, we invented one – such as with Flash and Shockwave. Did Adobe just say that THEY invented both Flash and Shockwave???
>> [_] Anon 3266151 >># Hooked on stereophonics?
>> [_] Anon 3266153 >># Wait, they fucking bought them didn't they?
>> [_] Anon 3266155 How am I supposed to get my weekly dose of ironic gay pornography? How am I supposed to get my daily dose? How am I going to hear the sweet sounds of the traditional suona? I will miss /f/
>> [_] Anon 3266156 >># I don't see /f/ ever going away unless you can make insanely serious exploits in it that could cause problems to 4chan itself
>> [_] Anon 3266157 >># In what universe does buying the rights to something make you the inventor of the thing you bought?
>> [_] :v 3266158 >># Two usually does it for me
>> [_] Anon 3266160 >># >># No, I was shocked by his reminder and reaffirming what he said. (Or you said, I don't fucking know.)
>> [_] Anon 3266162 >># Alright /f/riend
>> [_] Anon 3266163 >># >Top games >Flappytale >Undertale mixed with flappy bird These are not my people.
>> [_] Anon 3266164 >># >will still work through 2020 Well, we got 3 years to figure this out. Maybe by then there will be an HTML 5 player that we can throw stuff into.
>> [_] Anon 3266166 Fuck. And Xenon just came back again. NOW EVERYTHING I LOVE IS FUCKING DYING
>> [_] Anon 3266168 >># Pretty sure they've acquired and absorbed all of Macromedia, so technically they did invent it since Macromedia is now a part of them.
>> [_] Anon 3266169 >># weak.
>> [_] :v 3266175 >># S-sorry?
>> [_] Anon 3266179 >># yep
>> [_] Anon 3266180 >># first paint, now flash when the uprising starts?
>> [_] Anon 3266183 >># My 12th story balcony, and then to the ground
>> [_] Anon 3266184 >># Yes. You are.
>> [_] Anon 3266185 >># well pant is just no longer preinstalled on new copys of windows 10
>> [_] Anon 3266186 >># Have you cooked anything tasty recently?
>> [_] :v 3266187 >># I know... >># I just made a meatloaf with glazed carrots. Was pretty good
>> [_] Anon 3266188 >># >># talk about the depressing demise of our home, not some fucking carrots you shoved up your ass, hoes.
>> [_] Anon 3266192 >># MVB is literally the only reason aside of moot's stubborness the site lasted this long.
>> [_] Anon 3266193 >># Meatloaf is a tragically underrated food.
>> [_] Anon 3266196 >># >mvb what does the 8th U.S. president have to do with anything
>> [_] Anon 3266198 >># >being this new >># many of the mods are also old as the hills and one of the reasons why this site just keeps going. Many of them were in high-school or freshman year of college when 4chan became a thing, and now they're in their mid-30s and married. Mods may be fags but they're committed
>> [_] Anon 3266201 >># And Macromedia acquired it from previous buyout (although they renamed it to flash)... But to your point, I'm not sure it counts the same when you absorb another entity for the express purpose of destroying them. At the very least, Adobe did not invent the IDEA of flash, and that's what counts to most of us
>> [_] Anon 3266205 If they released the source code for flash and allowed it to become something akin to the demoscene they would become heroes on the eyes of the whole flash community >># True. Though some could use retirement, I feel like they've been jaded to all hell because of this site.
>> [_] Anon 3266206 Well, good night for now, /f/. I hope this was all just a nightmare...
>> [_] Anon 3266208 Life is tiring, friends. The few sources of happiness I have are slowly disappearing, and with this another one is gone, it hits the hardest.
>> [_] Anon 3266209 let's make a petition to get adobe to give out the source code for flash
>> [_] Anon 3266210 ;__;
>> [_] Anon 3266212 >># With enough love in flash it will happen, hell a game that is long dead is still being played on /v/, and is actually triggered a dev to make a newer updated version
>> [_] Anon 3266214 SO LONG YOU PRETTY THING GOD SAVE YOUR LITTLE SOUL
>> [_] Anon 3266215 >># let's make it happen
>> [_] Anon 3266217 >># >the spec is already open where
>> [_] Anon 3266219 >># What game was that?
>> [_] :v 3266221 >># It really is. Another plus is that it's easy to make and to top it off reheats well! >># I mean... >shitters clogged what else do you want to say about it?
>> [_] Anon 3266222 https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-m ake-flash-open-source-before-it-s-too-late Sign and make suggestions to make it look better
>> [_] ui~senpai !NOPE...... 3266223 sad day boys. sad feels itt
>> [_] Anon 3266225 wow cool i've never seen a sticky on /f/ before
>> [_] Anon 3266227 >># the only time change.org has enacted change is when the dude who shot up the Conservative baseball game signed one to "enact political change"
>> [_] Anon 3266228 >># we can at least try, man... I am still waiting for this one https://www.change.org/p/rename-fire-ant s-to-spicy-boys
>> [_] Anon 3266230 Well this fucking blows. I have a massive .SWF collection. At least they can't take that away from me. I'll always love you /f/
>> [_] Anon 3266231 >># http://wwwimages.adobe.com/content/dam/A dobe/en/devnet/swf/pdf/swf-file-format-sp ec.pdf
>> [_] Anon 3266232 >># So, time for /html5/?
>> [_] Anon 3266233 >># Paint is not getting removed, the whole thing was a ruse to promote Windows store, Paint now will be UWP.
>> [_] Anon 3266234 >># Yeah, I read that there too, and raged hard. Fucking liars, they bought out Macromedia. I was using SwishMAX back then because Macromedia Flash was *impossible* to pirate at the time. There's a lot of other bullshit in that post, but I'm not in a state to begin ranting on it. Just suffice to say it has to do with their *INFLUENTIAL "PARTNERS"* Now you know why Flash is dying.
>> [_] Anon 3266235 >># how about just /5/
>> [_] Anon 3266236 >"In addition, we plan to move more aggressively to EOL Flash in certain geographies where unlicensed and outdated versions of Flash Player are being distributed." What exactly do they mean by this? Will this effect me being able to watch flash on my PC in the future? I really hope they open source this shit, though I know they won't, being adobe and all.
>> [_] Anon 3266237 No ;_;
>> [_] Anon 3266238 I don't even really know what html5 is desu
>> [_] Anon 3266239 >># but it will not hurt to try
>> [_] Anon 3266240 >># That's just the filespec, not the whole fucking codebase to Actionscript 3.0 + current Flash Player/Projector, which would probably be a terabyte+ and take 10,000 monkeys with typewriters to maintain. All of GitHub isn't big enough to contain that much cancer-code.
>> [_] Anon 3266243 Triple sticky.
>> [_] Anon 3266245 I DON'T WANT IT TO END
>> [_] Anon 3266246 >># only once before in recent memory, on the first posting of doctorpixel.swf http://archive.4plebs.org/f/thread/25176 24/#2517624 >># >*INFLUENTIAL "PARTNERS"* I was thinking the same thing. Flash is very popular and while it has security vulnerabilities, they could have done something to keep it around. My idea is that since Google and other corporations which rose to monopolies and have their fingers in every pie are bribing Adobe to kill it so that they can release their own multimedia platform. Remember when Chrome and even Firefox all but disabled Flash?
>> [_] Anon 3266248 >># I said the spec is open. Which it is. You asked for it, and I linked to it. That is the specification for the SWF format. Code is different from specification.
>> [_] Anon 3266249 Damn. Its not just us but Newgrounds, ABS and the like are all fucked now.
>> [_] Anon 3266252 >># I'm honestly more worried about Newgrounds than /f/. Without new flash, the site will surely kick the bucket. I hope there's someone out there who has an archive of all the good flashes
>> [_] Anon 3266253 >># >Remember when Chrome and even Firefox all but disabled Flash Of course, that's why I'm 5 versions behind; newer versions further break fundamentals. >># >You asked for it That was a different Anon. I just pointed out the 'error'. Yes, codebase IS different from specification. A distinction that had yet to be made in that convo. Carry on. >># >Newgrounds They've been pushing their users toward video vs. Flash for quite a while now.
>> [_] Anon 3266255 >># >tfw /f/ got trolled so hard mods made it a sticky
>> [_] Anon 3266256 So what the fuck do I do with all the fucking flashes....What the fuck, are they just gonna be useless relics taking up space on my hard drive? Does the best board really have to fucking die??
>> [_] Anon 3266257 >># Indeed; M$, Crapple, Jewgle, Blowzilla, they all are the motive forces behind the 'decision' to abandon Flash, as they already have done so ages ago in pursuit of their own ends. Adobe is and always will be a suckup hax of a Corp, swallowing the competition and pretending they have a vested interest in the 'forefornt of Web technology'. They are the Klingons of IT. They also have always had that Midas Touch; but everything they 'touch' turns to utter shit. Flash, Dreamweaver, etc... It's shameful.
>> [_] Anon 3266258 >># >They've been pushing their users toward video vs. Flash for quite a while now. and content creators. everything went downhill since tomfulp and that other guy released swivel and converted a bunch of older flashes to video http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1331 054
>> [_] Anon 3266260 >># Get the standalone before the bell tolls >>#
>> [_] Anon 3266263 hey guys! the central bank of Venezuela website uses flash. http://www.bcv.org.ve/ this must be adobe's real motivation behind killing flash.
>> [_] Anon 3266265 >># Dirty Secret: Adobe never removes their deprecated works; they simply hide the links in ever-increasingly obscure links. You have to search-hard to find the actual links to legacy resources, but they still exist. You can often find them through tech blogs and such. You can still download the original installers for CS3 straight from the Adobe servers if that's your fancy. The API references for AS1/2, all that is there for the finding. (don't ask for links, I haven't got them handy, but I know from recent experience this is so) captcha: >...all images with sunglasses one is a hamster wearing photoshopped DEAL WITH IT specs!
>> [_] Anon 3266268 >># but it should still be open source
>> [_] Anon 3266272 >># >AlbinoBlackSheep >in 2017
>> [_] Anon 3266273 ;_;7
>> [_] Anon 3266277 Can't wait for flash to become open source
>> [_] Anon 3266280 >># don't get your hopes up this is adobe
>> [_] Anon 3266281 >># Well there is gnash.
>> [_] Anon 3266282 >># /death/
>> [_] Anon 3266283 >ITT: paranoia
>> [_] Anon 3266284 >># true
>> [_] Anon 3266285 >># >internet >in 2017 shit sucks
>> [_] Anon 3266294 good night sweet prince
>> [_] Anon 3266307 At long last my comrades..... No king rules forever
>> [_] Anon 3266308 >># but I can't die now
>> [_] Anon 3266312 .-. >what now.. F
>> [_] Anon 3266314 >># make it flash open source
>> [_] Anon 3266315 This board was already dead. Only now it is going to die for good. I'll miss you anyway. RIP best medium.
>> [_] Anon 3266316 /F/
>> [_] Anon 3266318 I've never been so sad, not ever Rest in Peace /f/, forgotten and then gone, in that order
>> [_] Anon 3266320 I didn't expect to feel this sad
>> [_] Anon 3266321 F
>> [_] Former Ryder Club Vice President !T/nuP8UdCs 3266322 ;_;
>> [_] Anon 3266324 Well I'm gonna miss this place, at least we have a good 3 years of shitposting left
>> [_] Anon 3266326 Flash has basically been my home for 7 years I'll be really sad to see it go... We'll just have to make the most of it while it is still around! I'm a /f/aggot forever
>> [_] Anon 3266327 >># >tfw those swf files will remain as relics >everytime you stumble upon them to find a certain file in your folders, you will instantly be filled with sadness well, this fucking sucks.
>> [_] Anon 3266331 Adobe fucked Macromedia up. THEY FUCKED IT UP!
>> [_] BismuthVectoring !ojFRESH.oI 3266334 >># I'm certain an alternative will be found, we've been warned two years ahead. however if the browsers actually make it impossible to load flash, I don't know how this board will make it. I think it's obvious that flash game sites will die together with Newgrounds and albinoblacksheep, unless they willingly turn into flash archives swfchan's admin must be about to hang himself. First the whole advertising debacle and now this. I hope for the best. Flash became a medium for really cool and creative things. /f/ alone has so much great content under it's belt it'd be disheartening to see it go
>> [_] Anon 3266335 We knew it was coming, hell, flash has been on the way out for a long while now. And it's still two and a half years or so away until the official discontinuation. Still sucks though. When the day comes /f/ will be the first board to be closed down for no other reason than being legitimately defunct and obsolete. Fuck, that is really sad to think about.
>> [_] Anon 3266340 >># Also a tragically underrated singer. *********** ALSO *********** Some faggot mod is sitting behind the Console laughing his aspie ass off with his 'burger buddies at how he stickied a psst and made /f/ come fucking unglued, hair-on-fire. (as if this doesn't get posted every 3 months) GET A FUCKING GRIP YOU ALL
>> [_] Black_Knight !DlQLyppdkQ 3266341 A sticky, on /f/? These are truly the end times of 4chan.
>> [_] Anon 3266342 >># Ace of Spades
>> [_] Anon 3266345 2020 still sounds like it's so far away. i wanna be 12 again.
>> [_] Anon 3266346 2.5 posts per anon STEP IT UP BOIZ
>> [_] Anon 3266347 >109 unique posters lol wtf i always thought flash only consisted of 10 people shitposting about the same things.
>> [_] Anon 3266349 Had to end eventually. Surely there's decent converters out there, right? Right?
>> [_] Anon 3266350 >># it always was. /b/ has been recruited to fill in the blanks.
>> [_] Anon 3266351 >># I haven't frequented /f/ since 2010. These dark times bring us home.
>> [_] Black_Knight !DlQLyppdkQ 3266352 >># I'd rather it be 2005 again.
>> [_] Anon 3266353 >># i see your reasoning but dont agree, if company A existed before company B invented something and then company A aquire B it doesn't mean A were the ones doing the things B did >># macromedia didnt really claim to invent future splash either. they did however take the core of future splash and rebranded it as flash, and this was all the way back in 96. i dont know exactly how similar flash and future splash is but id imagine flash is very different. probably so different that i wouldnt object if macromedia invented flash because it was so different from future splash. has to be a limit somewhere, otherwise the company that created future splash wouldnt be able to claim they invented future splash because they didnt invent vector graphics.
>> [_] Anon 3266354 >># i see what you did there
>> [_] Anon 3266356 >># In the year 2525, if flash is still alive... If internet can survive, they may fiiiiiind...
>> [_] Anon 3266357 I'm not worried about losing flash as much as I'm worried about losing this board. /f/ has become a home to me and the /f/aggots I share it with are like family.
>> [_] Anon 3266358 >># OH YOU
>> [_] Anon 3266360 >># what was the name of that flash, i haven't saved it yet.
>> [_] Anon 3266361 fucking sticky, this is moving like /b/ we all deserve to die.
>> [_] Anon 3266364 /v/ fag here Our hearts go out to you, friends. It was a good run, full of nostalgia and boredom kickers. But all good things have to end. Let's hope adobe snaps out of it and changes their mind. Love you /f/, hope we're all going to make it.
>> [_] Anon 3266365 >># >/gif/ >wanting 250 post threads with only 10 files >the other 240 posts are "ZOMG SAUCE" yea nah you're a cunt
>> [_] Anon 3266366 >># >250 posts of "I don't understand how anyone could find that attractive"
>> [_] Anon 3266367 >># >># These
>> [_] Anon 3266369 >># >Remember when Chrome/Firefox killed flash Runs fine on my machine. PM me for the fix.
>> [_] Anon 3266371 >># Holy fuck this too. >Thread about big tits >Some small tit fag comes into thread he doesn't care about >Starts shitposting >200 text posts later and everyone's discussing bread and politics instead of just posting tits.
>> [_] Anon 3266372 >># >the one fag that's spamming .5 sec .gifs of a girl doing something that was already sped up
>> [_] Anon 3266375 ;_;7 F Just read every single word in this thread, from 115 anons, and I can't believe it'll all come cascading down. Not in one gigantic heap, but slowly, the older fundamentals of the internet are going to fade. >># Newgrounds has been there with me as much as /f/ has, but at least they have other things now, as >># said. We're all a bunch of shitty animators and silent lurkers, will we really find the fabled "cure" for this? >># We can only pray, ay? That someone will do the work for us, like Adobe making their bastard child open source, >># >># >># >># >># >># >># like everyone is hoping. Again, it's Adobe we're talking about here. >># If we want the community to survive, we gotta do it ourselves. Emphasis on we. "Memories are nice, but that's all they are."
>> [_] Anon 3266376 >># >/f/ will be the first board to be closed down for no other reason than being legitimately defunct and obsolete. makes you wonder how long until 4chan as a whole follows that path
>> [_] Anon 3266377 >># >PM me cheeky fuck :^)
>> [_] Anon 3266378 >># >a bunch of shitty animators HEY! I'm an excellent animator, I just get off on slumming. v_v
>> [_] Anon 3266379 >># I despise HTML5 as much as any other person, but this is nonsense. HTML5 is more than capable of emulating the vast majority of Flash files perfectly fine. The only ones it won't be able to do is the really intense ones because JavaScript timing isn't a guarantee, it is a privilege. But even that can be overcome by using message timers instead of setTimeout https://gist.github.com/mathiasbynens/57 9895 The former message-based timers are closer to instant and reliable as you can get in JS. setTimeout is throttled by the resource manager both if the tab is focused or unfocused. The BIGGEST issue with HTML5 as a flash replacement is the lack of a single, unified file. The only realistic option is something like a zip file. You put a zip decoder in the JS and make all the internal resources file blobs and assign a virtual URL to them. That way you can distribute one single file. Doesn't need to be named .zip either. you could name it .shittingdicknipples if you want to. I think .h5f sounds best. html5file. I did have game instead, but what if the project is not a game?
>> [_] Anon 3266380 Reminder that Adobe, Google, Firefox, Microsoft etc are all only killing Flash because they can't make any jew gold from it. They want """content creators""" to move to Jewtube so they can make $$$ off of other people's shit.
>> [_] Anon 3266381 >># This legitimately made me laugh. Thanks, I needed that.
>> [_] Anon 3266382 >># Realistically though, most people are overreacting. Nothing is gunna stop people using or posting .swf. People will just pass around an old installer for Flash and use an old version of a browser. There are whole websites dedicated to old versions of programs, because newer doesn't mean better.
>> [_] Anon 3266383 >># Prove yer worth, actually make a flash about flash dying, unlike the fp now flooding with shitty remakes of older flashes (see >>#).
>> [_] Anon 3266384 >># >mfw /f/ dies renaming flashes will die out too. >we'll be stuck with facebook-tier "You will not believe what happens, watch until the end" videos, vines and shitty porn clips on /gif/
>> [_] Anon 3266385 >># That's what I've been saying! :^) >># Already on it; besides, I got more OC on this board than your grandmother has skidmarks in her bloomers.
>> [_] Anon 3266386 >># I'm... glad, I think. OC is good. That's just more than I expected.
>> [_] Anon 3266387 >># i've got it saved as "2525" or "in the year 2525"
>> [_] Anon 3266389 >># >renaming flashes God damn it Anon
>> [_] Anon 3266390 >># I never rename them I just save them as they come. I probably have a third one saved as well with the proper name(if there is one). It's hard to keep track of 2000+ swiffs
>> [_] Anon 3266391 >># Of course, in reference to making a ZIP file be the replacement for SWF , some will think "but that's fucking dumb, how can you guarantee standards?" WEBM on here is fairly standard. Hell, there are 2 separate splits, one with audio, one without. Both incompatible and the latter soundless WEBMs an abuse to get better animated images since GIF is fucking awful. All you need for your new project is an HTML page, maybe CSS, JS, and maybe some image and audio files if you use them. The whole HTML5 file can be hosted inside of a sandboxed iframe with everything but scripting disabled. This will prevent it from doing dodgy shit. https://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/ security/sandboxed-iframes/ Pls mods, send this to the wonderful dev and see what he thinks. It is very doable. Just need to define a common standard, similar to most web servers requiring an index.html file to display as the homepage. It's not like security will be an issue. There have already been malicious flash files uploaded countless times over the years. >># I just group them all in folders regardless of filename, then give the folder a descriptive name. I have so many renamed lolicatgirls and shoops.
>> [_] Anon 3266392 >># >># >># >># Looks like someone posted it rn anyway, >>#
>> [_] Anon 3266393 >># Yeah it was me >># for the anon that wanted it. Better post it here than send him to that popup ridden buttwhole that is swfchan. Also, (you)'d 3 times in 1 post. Feels good.
>> [_] Anon 3266394 3 more year, eh? Let's make them count.
>> [_] Anon 3266397 If you are worried /f/ will die, worry not. Download Sandboxie. Install an NPAPI-capable version of your browser of choice inside of your sandbox.* Make a shortcut to your sandbox browsers launcher. (chrome.exe, firefox.exe, etc.) Done. Shortcut would be something like this: I:\Sandbox\[yourcurrentlogin]\FIREFOX\dr ive\C\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe * Because fuck PPAPI. Pepper is the worst API created. Worse than Mozilla not knowing what an API is and shitting on add-on developers every fucking update. Protip, you dumb cunts, APIs are supposed to be unchanging and reliable for old applications. This is why the concept was created! Fucking Mozzarella.
>> [_] Anon 3266398 >># hi /gif/ how bout those WEBMs, huh?
>> [_] Anon 3266399 >># Well kudos to you, (You)
>> [_] Anon 3266401 >># aren't you some super old tripfag I vaguely recall the 4chan irc old farts talking about some black night in their "back in my day" rants
>> [_] Anon 3266402 >># >Mozzarella has to be the worst offender of all interweb technologies. Still the best-rendering browser of all of them. If only there was a way to make them 'normal'.
>> [_] Anon 3266403 >># No way to fix them. They are hell-bent on suiciding. Ever since they went down the path of constantly adding add-ons as browser features, I knew it would end some day. Chrome went down a worse path, ad-aids and spying everything. Opera still fucking blows and has no support because of awkward UIs designed by people from the 4th dimension. Everything fucking sucks. I almost want for a net-nuke. Something to reset it it all.
>> [_] Anon 3266404 >># calling them "developers" is a bit of a stretch.
>> [_] Anon 3266405 >># >fucking mozzarella le mao
>> [_] Anon 3266409 >># >># How does it make you feel knowing that there are people on 4chan that are too young to know about Newgrounds or /f/. OR they know of Flash but only see it as a spammers tool for making cheap animations for un-targeted popup ads?
>> [_] Anon 3266414 >># old and sad
>> [_] Anon 3266419 >># hey, fuck you
>> [_] Old Man Sou !!VxWspnN285O 3266422 Well I guess the clock is ticking now isn't it? I dunno how I'm gonna pull it off but I guess try is gonna have to evolve into do. But if 2020 is /f/'s expiration date then I make a vow to the moon and stars on this day /f/ellas. /f/ will win a 4chan Cup tournament. I have a lot holding me back from autism but if the final countdown is approaching I'm gonna find a way to dig deep and do better than my best. And even if I do fail I'll at least fail with what little pride one can have for being a virtual divegrass manager. I love you all.
>> [_] Anon 3266428 >># You rock Sou, even if we never win a Cup. It's all in fun, and your work's appreciated.
>> [_] Anon 3266429 >># Everyone knows about newgrounds at the very least
>> [_] Anon 3266431 It's pretty hard to imagine flash (the format) dying. It's still widely used, there's nothing that neatly fits as a replacement, and there's a bunch of third-party players that would likely see a lot more development if/when the official player is killed. As an example: Shumway. http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/exa mples/inspector/inspector.html?rfile=/ant -karlov/SantaIsComing.swf
>> [_] Anon 3266433 truly /f/ was an unforgettable experience to me since the dark days of the internet, it was like a pandora box or exploring a dungeon crawler back then, mainly the suprise factor of it, you could sometimes get a HOOD, or a DAILY DOSE, or a REALLY ADDICTIVE game or a nice hentai animation, it was the unpredictable factor what made it for me, considering there was no YT or FB back then, it was the only source for many great things you could hardly find somewhere else. thankfully my /f/ folder has over 400+ files and starts from 2005, I built good memories from here.
>> [_] Anon 3266435 >># You thinking of making a mega link for this newfag over here?
>> [_] Anon 3266436 Somebody make a countdown to /f/'s death
>> [_] Anon 3266443 >># https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ we will use this
>> [_] Anon 3266446 Someone from Adobe will release the source code unauthorizedly. The wildcat will get caught and executed behind closed doors, but his sacrifice will never be forgotten.
>> [_] Anon 3266447 >># Doubt that will happen, but one can dream.
>> [_] Anon 3266452 >># That wouldn't do anything. Flash binaries are already available, and no-one is going to put serious time into maintaining something like that. Better to focus on the free flash players.
>> [_] Anon 3266453 >># >Those places have NO soul Damn that hit me. You don't think about it much but this board has a lot of fucking soul.
>> [_] Anon 3266454 Just imagine how amazing would be a standalone open-source flash player.
>> [_] Anon 3266458 >># https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
>> [_] Anon 3266459 As soon as I saw a thread with 30+ replies I knew some bad shit was going down. Rip flash, we had a good run
>> [_] Anon 3266468 Just remember guys. I always loved all of you.
>> [_] Anon 3266471 >># we will not go
>> [_] Anon 3266472 This is silly. Nothing is going to happen for another three years, and then nothing will probably happen then too.
>> [_] Anon 3266473 >># Gnash can barely support Flash 7. Everything that relies on a newer version is fucked, and the development seems to be extremely slow (AKA no new stable release since 2010-2011). It's not an alternative at all.
>> [_] Anon 3266476 >># we can improve it
>> [_] Anon 3266477 >># No they made it default to not run. Chrome built their own flash player (pepper flash player) and won't let you install the regular flash player. Some differences was that it lags on certain files. >># How does the filesize compare to doing it in flash? >># Only if you violate Adobes usage terms of flash, which is what the Devs of Gnash are trying to avoid.
>> [_] John Moses Browning 3266478 Rest in Pasta, /f/ >># >># Best post in this thread Oh well, can we at least try to shift the flash expiration date to 2025 or something with a petition or a huge internet fight?
>> [_] Anon 3266480 >># https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-m ake-flash-open-source-before-it-s-too-lat e?recruiter=704724662&utm_source=share_pe tition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=s hare_petition
>> [_] John Moses Browning 3266482 >># I was hoping for a huge internet fight :(
>> [_] Anon 3266483 I've been coming here for 15 years. Flash no longer being supported won't stop me.
>> [_] Anon 3266484 hey mod, please leave this sticky up until 2020 thanks
>> [_] Anon 3266485 >># The great thing about flash is that you could post them without needing your own server, or git repo, or anything else like that. It was a single file, so you could build portal sites like this or Newgrounds. Someone needs to make a self-contained HTML5 format thing that can be read by browsers. For security, it should not just be a zip file, but something else. It should be optionally compiled/obfuscated, depending on whether you want other people to be able to open it and read your code, or remix/repost etc.
>> [_] Anon 3266486 >># I'm going to make a yotsuba-like uploader based on this suggestion. Very neat.
>> [_] Anon 3266487 >># If they open sourced flash, they would open source shockwave as well, right?
>> [_] Anon 3266488 >># I really don't want to do .zip files, because then people can put all kinds of irrelevant crap in there. Maybe the server-side process can use zip files, but expressly forbid anything that the browser can't actually use. We don't want this thing spreading viruses.
>> [_] Anon 3266489 >># How would it be able to spread viruses?
>> [_] Anon 3266490 >># >># Seconding this.
>> [_] Anon 3266491 >># Do a torrent as well.
>> [_] Anon 3266492 >sticky in /f/ Holy shit, has this ever happened before?
>> [_] Anon 3266493 /F/ Flash is dated in that you had to contain a website in a single file, but that means it can serve as container format for all kinds of things as well. Is there anything that could be the new .swf file? >read thread fug
>> [_] Anon 3266495 >># >Flash is dated in that you had to contain a website in a single file what do you mean? you can split flash projects into several swfs that doesn't need to load at the same time, or you can load external files of non-swf data directly. people did it all the time, especially if they made a website in flash
>> [_] Anon 3266498 >># I meant homepage/site navigation. Sorry if it wasn't clear.
>> [_] Anon 3266499 rest in peace
>> [_] Anon 3266501 >># If there's a browser bug that lets you execute downloaded code, they can contain the payload in an .exe file. Not to say they couldn't like base64 encode something then force it through a buffer overflow, but still. We don't want to make it quite that easy for them.
>> [_] Anon 3266503 >># You see, any place that runs this kind of software turns into a potential vector for malware. It's like leaving your server wide open. You *have* to take precautions. I want to be lenient, and foster creativity to as great a degree as possible, this means letting them do whatever they want in the actual payload file... To let a user be brilliant, you have to let them be stupid too. But I don't want to make mistakes that give the software a bad name. I've been wanting to do something like this for ages.
>> [_] Anon 3266505 >># The usual approach to this kind of thing (other than constraining what people can post to the degree it's just another facebook or tumblr clone) is to limit limit limit. Limiting content makes it easy to aggregate, easy to present in a "feed" etc. It basically fosters a super-shallow type of content creation-- everything you make has to be able to be consumed in its entirety while a user is scrolling their feed. I think that sucks. I miss the old newgrounds experience, where an individual creator would have your undivided attention for minutes at a time, in a frame which they had complete control over, and could do any unexpected thing imaginable. A 2 minute movie followed by a search puzzle? A 10-frame long window during a 30 minute episode where you could click a particular spot for an easter-egg? Fuggin wonderufl.
>> [_] Anon 3266506 >># Like, if you approached a company to make a "self-contained content format" today, the likely approach would be to structure everything in a particular way. Set constraints. Audio goes here, animations go here. Code goes here, but it's a special language we devised so we get final say over what you can do. Oh, someone wants to fill their canvas with a function, pixel-by-pixel? Someone wants to use some bleeding edge HTML5 thing to emulate a Yamaha YM2612? Sorry, the dev gods didn't think of that at the time they were making their container format, so that's not supported. Damn, I'm getting excited. Sorry, I know this isn't the place for this kind of thing.
>> [_] Anon 3266507 >># Flash was honestly never a good option for that kind of thing. Even if that's partly what it was designed for, it was still a HORRIBLE idea. Luckily it fell out of favor for that kind of thing very soon after it was introduced. Flash really shines for end-products. Games, animations, interactive "toy" demo things, etc.
>> [_] Anon 3266508 >># I know the feeling. My /f/ folder started in 2006, but I had an HD crash in 2008. That was such a blow at the time. There are so many flashes I haven't found again, even to this day. My /f/ folder has grown to around 5k flashes. So many damned memories.
>> [_] Anon 3266509 >># >># I agree.
>> [_] Anon 3266513 >># The way I'm thinking it'd work is, you'd need a special server-side script to decompress and serve the HTML5 package, but there's nothing preventing your app from offering a "download this" button next to it. Just for convenience, we could easily make a "projector" app for it that just decompresses it (to memory or a temp folder) and launches it in a browser (either baked into the projector or the user's default).
>> [_] Anon 3266527 >># >tfw lost all those flashes I know that feel dude. I lost all my pre-2013 flashes, and almost all my flashes flashes mid-2015 onwards. It fucking sucks. I've been saving flashes since I first found Newgrounds in the early 2000s. /f/ has been slowly dying since the start of 2016. Unlike most boards, it's not because of who is here, but who isn't. We loose traffic, and newfags aren't rushing in to start posting on /f/. I feel like this is a big wakeup call, people will start posting and making content again, which makes me happy. Hopefully I'll be able to rebuild my collection. My folder has 1K currently, but before I lost most of everything I something like 6-7K It fucking hurts.
>> [_] Anon 3266530 >># swfchan going up for dl when?
>> [_] Anon 3266531 >># the kike running that will probably start selling the flashes
>> [_] Anon 3266533 >># >swfchan going up for dl when? Please this. Whatever happened to that /f/aggot who was going to download every "culturally significant" flash from SWFchan?
>> [_] Anon 3266534 >># My collection has 341 flashes right now, and I've lost everything that's pre-2014 due to an HDD problem... I've learned to backup everything now. Shit's sad, yo.
>> [_] Anon 3266538 >># It's fucking painful though. I'm missing just under a decades worth of flash files, with everything from September 2015 onwards gone, and anything before January 2014 gone. I have years of flashes just gone. The worst part is that I want to go back and just see the threads over the years and find what I missed, but swfchan and dagobah will show its initial post date only, while 4plebs only goes back to 2014. I feel like I have no control.
>> [_] Anon 3266540 FlashPlayer.exe Marked for deletion (old)
>> [_] Anon 3266542 >># same
>> [_] Anon 3266544 you know you could just upload your folders, merge them and then just scan for duplicates, right? not that it'd matter in a completionist way. Newgrounds alone has probably well over millions of SWFs. yes, even the crappy ones.
>> [_] Anon 3266546 >># ;_;7
>> [_] Anon 3266552 Can't we just get to post .swf in threads now? It'll make sharing stuff much easier, especially since people will wanna be doing that much more often.
>> [_] Anon 3266554 >># not to mention all the lost material. I've been looking for this stupid Berserk video I saw on NG a couple times. it was really just cutouts of the manga with Forces playing in the back. but I think it was deleted, either by the author or NG is really just purging old data. it's really scary that media can disappear like that but holding onto measly 10K swfs is just a coping mechanism. a preservation project would be magnitudes bigger.
>> [_] Anon 3266555 >># oh god no, please dont do this. threads would just turn out to be about nothing, endless dumping of files with no comments or multiple topics going on all at the same time. terrible idea.
>> [_] Anon 3266556 http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1424 896
>> [_] Anon 3266557 >># if that would be the case this place would turn into a wasteland really quick
>> [_] Anon 3266559 >># bad idea
>> [_] Anon 3266560 >># Doing the Zip file method, probably comparable to a typical Flash project. If you were to do it purely without a zip file, the most efficient way I have found to encode data is base91. https://pastebin.com/JbJeFthb >># >># You already stated why it isn't a bad idea in your own post. It's trivial to base64 executable code and exploits. It's literally an HTML5 front-line feature. The sandbox would be as (un)safe as the flash container is. There's already malicious flash files out there as it is. They get uploaded here fairly regularly, in fact. A zip file is the easiest way to do an HTML5 replacement for Flash for the sake of making it portable. >># Doesn't need to be that complex. A script is embedded in the HTML5 sandbox. It downloads the zipped HTML5 project from server, decodes it in memory then runs it. To make it so it can be standardized, you could require them to have a function called "main" that starts the project. Or you can make it a self-invoking function. Doing an HTML5 preloader is even more of a pain. What could be done is a separate folder in the zip called preloader, downloads that first which then downloads the rest. But that requires server-side stuff to extract that then serve it to clients first. It would all need to be formalized and such. There are loads of other ways it could be done.
>> [_] Anon 3266561 >># >We just need animation to be in video format. the end of /f/ is nigh
>> [_] Anon 3266562 >># Press F for respects
>> [_] Anon 3266568 >># >Flash was never the reason for bad advertising on the web >Flash as a security threat was kind of a meme. >It really bothers me when people cheer the death of Flash HAHAHAHAHAHAHA It's a fucking travesty that over all these years artwork creators were clinging to this disgusting proprietary behemoth that was flash instead of jumping boat to a viable open-source alternative as soon it was possible. But no, you people were content with taking the adobe dick up your ass and now you're left with thousands of artwork locked in a proprietary format that is getting deprecated in 3 years. You didn't even bother supporting gnash, it can barely play a swf movie, let alone a full game. You people are even worse than /v/tards, you have chosen your path and now its time for you to suffer, you deserve every bit of it, thank fucking god I wont have to see any website using this proprietary abomination of software. Press S to spit on grave.
>> [_] Anon 3266570 >># richard stallman what are you doing on 4chan
>> [_] Anon 3266571 >># Back to /g/ with you. >>>/g/
>> [_] Anon 3266573 >># the problem is /g/ is now getting filled with winfags
>> [_] Anon 3266574 >># For many years flash was the only option along with shockwave and java, it wasn't until a few years ago it seemed that html5 was mature enough to replace flash.
>> [_] Anon 3266575 >># >The sandbox would be as (un)safe as the flash container is. You're probably right about this, but I still think it'd be good to have some way to prevent exe files from existing in the container. It wouldn't even necessarily need to exploit a browser bug-- it could just be put in place in case someone decided to decompile the project to change it-- name a file misleadingly so they'll double-click without thinking. Maybe it could be a server-side thing. >To make it so it can be standardized, you could require them to have a function called "main" that starts the project. I like the idea of having an index.html better. This is in line with pre-existing standards-- a game project made after this pattern could just be unzipped and viewed in a standard browser-- or fed to nginx/apache. It'd also make it nearly braindead easy to port a lot of existing html5 projects to this format for easy sharing. I think for this kind of thing to take off, it has to have as few barriers to entry as possible. Lots of people already know how to make basic HTML/JS projects, and to share it, using WinZip isn't a stretch. >Doing an HTML5 preloader is even more of a pain. I think this kind of thing is in the past. Internet connections are so fast nowadays... I often don't even get a chance to see those clever early 2000s preloaders before the thing starts. If we go the unzip-before-serving route, you can just let the author use any one of the many JS preloading frameworks that already exist. The point of this, as I see it, isn't to slavishly duplicate Flash, it's to emulate the things it got VERY right. To make it easy to create little projects that can be easily shared. Although I could see a container being built with some kind of future hyper-accurate version of Shumway to run a specific .swf file.
>> [_] Anon 3266576 >># >Maybe it could be a server-side thing. I meant to write here: "maybe it could be a server-side option for the people running the site."
>> [_] Anon 3266578 Gentlemen, it has been a privilege hoodrolling with you.
>> [_] Anon 3266579 >># >To make it so it can be standardized, you could require them to have a function called "main" that starts the project. Another consideration, Adobe has replaced flash with "Animate," that makes little js/html projects. It'd probably be good to stick to the way the web usually works to make integrating those as simple as possible. I did some messing around with it a couple of years ago making some frame-by-frame animations I could use in my own JS projects, and it seemed like it should be able to do it.
>> [_] Anon 3266581 >># To expand on those ways of serving: Upload .h5f file to 4chan It generates link to the full file as normal. You click it, opens new page with a script and sandbox iframe. (which is 100% width and height, like a typical Flash file) The script loads the HTML5 project to the sandboxed iframe. If it opens in a new page, what will actually happen instead is the server intercepts that request and sends you an HTML page with a script and an iframe, which then downloads your file to the sandboxed iframe. That iframe will be the full dimensions of the document like when you open a Flash file in its own tab. But if you right click and save it, it won't be able to do that redirect, so will save normally. The issue comes with a person that saves the tab they are in. People will just need to get used to not doing it because they will save the loader and the HTML5 file together. >># >If we go the unzip-before-serving route, you can just let the author use any one of the many JS preloading frameworks that already exist. Would use more bandwidth, but it is doable. It would essentially be creating a webpage on 4chan, all the resources would be saved there, you download them. If you save the page, it would save every resource in a folder (if .html) or together (if .mhtml) Would be easy enough to recombine them all in to a zipped file. (but still a pain) Although, it would be possible to do the same redirect intercept method in the upper half of this post.
>> [_] Anon 3266582 >># >># >Damn, I'm getting excited. Sorry, I know this isn't the place for this kind of thing. Aye m8, this is exactly the type of place to get excited. We need people to get excited, to save our niche way of life, either by convincing a God to bow to mere mortals or by creating our own God. Spreading your opinions is welcome, on this board, for now.
>> [_] Anon 3266583 >># Fuck you, wintoddlers and other proprietary fags like you constantly shit up /g/, might as well come here and dance on the grave of the most disgusting software in the history of mankind. You people just got EXTINGUISHED. S
>> [_] Anon 3266585 >># The problem is also that there isn't an easy way to make (drawn) animations in html5 like Flash's graphic tools or timeline allows you to. It's also nearly impossible to time audio and video on all systems like in Flash. (yes, https://github.com/mon/SyncLoop exists, but still...) It will be nowhere as easy to create content in html5, even if THEORETICALLY it's possible.
>> [_] Anon 3266588 >># So. Early internet is kill now. Fuck.
>> [_] Anon 3266589 >># There are and were several of open-source options for 2d animating, also several open-source 2d game engines. >inb4 you couldn't run it from a browser Well that just confirms that /f/ and newgrounds are containment sites. It's time for a purge.
>> [_] Anon 3266591 >># Stupid fucking kids these days... early internet? Flash isn't even early web, much less internet.
>> [_] Anon 3266592 >># Please stop shitting up the thread. It's easy to get replies at a time like this, but it's really not what /f/ needs right now.
>> [_] Anon 3266594 >># Agreed, too many meme shitposting replies right now, you can really tell who's coming from the containment boards rather than an actual /f/riend.
>> [_] Anon 3266595 >># This is what /f/ deserves. Again, you are the sole creators of your misery, nobody forced you to lock yourself to a proprietary format. You people deserve this, let this be a lesson for you.
>> [_] Anon 3266596 >># >If it opens in a new page, what will actually happen instead is the server intercepts that request and sends you an HTML page with a script and an iframe, which then downloads your file to the sandboxed iframe. >That iframe will be the full dimensions of the document like when you open a Flash file in its own tab. >But if you right click and save it, it won't be able to do that redirect, so will save normally. >The issue comes with a person that saves the tab they are in. People will just need to get used to not doing it because they will save the loader and the HTML5 file together. I think that's too elaborate for something that won't really net you much. I think just offering a download link somewhere, either on the posting page, or maybe a little icon in the corner of the page would work fine. I also think we should keep the burden of unzipping and running the file off of the client side. Your method would have to find all the resource requests, in both code, HTML, etc... and replace them with your own resource blobs/virtual URLs. It would basically be a script transpiler that runs in the browser. This opens us up to unexpected bugs if someone decides to do something unusual in their code. I think we should reduce complexity as much as possible. Your thing could be an option, definitely, an alternative implementation, but if I'm going to make one it will be a node.js thing that just unzips to a temporary directory (or maybe uploads to a CDN) and serves it. My focus is on making the app itself easy and seamless, and for me, something as tech heavy as that would take me on a long detour from my goal. So, if we're going to do anything, the absolute most important thing is to agree on a file format. I like using a zip archive with the .h5f extension, but I'd want to bootstrap it by just loading index.html, (in an iframe or not, to the server operator's taste).
>> [_] Anon 3266597 >># Newgrounds got legal threats from a massive (((MEDIA COMPANY))) telling them they'd get their ads pulled off if they didn't get rid of all their "copyrighted content". A lot of flashes I liked are fucking gone too, a lot of shitty spam flashes I liked got deleted by faggot mods in the early 10s too.
>> [_] Anon 3266598 >># Not yet, but that's definitely coming. The availability of tools like this would give the browser vendors an impetus to improve.
>> [_] Anon 3266600 >2020 is more than 2 years away >already having threads moaning and bitching Fuck, you guys are pathetic
>> [_] Anon 3266601 >># Yeah, most likely that will get more attention and work done to it. Would be great to get others to know this exists and try it out. >># The timing will be a huge issue. JS timers are fucking awful. The closest you can get to reliable timing is message-based timers which get sent as instantly as the JS engine can parse it. But that is also at the whim of the JS engine. Normal JS timers get throttle hard, but an overloaded engine can shit on your sync. Of course, this is true of ALL games in general. Flash actually holds your hand in that regard. It might actually make better developers in general. Writing proper code where the logic and graphics is in sync manually rather than depending on a timer also makes it much easier to developer and debug I find. So that way even if it were throttled, it will ALL be throttled equally since the stepping system keeps it in sync. Stepping is just better. >># Yeah, it is overly elaborate. But if to save bandwidth, it would be necessary. I'm just a mad optimization fag. I do agree that a separate download being visible would help. Now that I think about it, webpages have full access to keyboard input. You could intercept ctrl+s and send the event the URL to the actual zipped file. That way it keeps it all neat instead of the typical .html and the resources in a folder, or an .mhtml compiled HTML file. That method works a lot easier.
>> [_] Anon 3266602 >># give it a few days and things will go back to normal
>> [_] Anon 3266603 All good things must come to an end. Rest in peace Flash. Thanks fellow /f/riends and /f/ags, it was a great time with you all.
>> [_] Anon 3266605 I haven't mourned like this since the death of hypercard.
>> [_] Anon 3266608 >># >># People like you two are the actual future of this board, you should create identities for yourselves so we can come to recognize your efforts.
>> [_] Anon 3266609 >># >I'm just a mad optimization fag You know what they say about premature optimization... > ctrl+s and send the event the URL to the actual zipped file. I like this a lot. It could definitely be an option for server operators. Or maybe the authors could optionally place hooks to helper functions that the website makes available, just in case the h5f file itself wants to use ctrl+s (i.e. if it's a paintchat program, or some neat little authoring tool that actually has documents you can create/load/save). Like, there would be a shared library you could include in your project, and by default ctrl+s would tell the site to send you a download of the h5f file, but you can override it. >JS timers are fucking awful. I haven't read that much about this... What about requestAnimationFrame and counting time between each call? That's what I use, but I don't know if I've ever needed to do any timing I'd call "precise". If we don't push forward with this, there'll be no impetus for the browser vendors, standards people etc... to make it any better. We're probably going to have to just stumble along with whatever's available until they get their shit straight. That's what they did with Flash, the first game that made newgrounds famous was hacked together in as1, which IIRC didn't have variables or anything else.
>> [_] Anon 3266610 >lock yourself to a proprietary format >cry like a baby when the company decides to deprecate it because its literally a pile of shit pottery
>> [_] Anon 3266611 >># >># >ctrl+s and send the event the URL to the actual zipped file. >just in case the h5f file itself wants to use ctrl+s Brilliant, Holmes(s).
>> [_] Anon 3266614 >># I'm thinking of making a git or something to make this project more a generic system rather than just 4chan based. A lot of people would likely be interested in helping with it. A lot of HTML5 hosting systems all have their own systems, but making a generic hosting solution for others would further advance its adoption. >># Yeah I was thinking that, as a generic project, what you could have is the key-intercept code in a separate JS file which gets loaded in to the main file by command. If a website doesn't want to allow files to be saved, they simply remove that file and command. Or could just do it as a flag and they set it to 0. They'd likely obfuscate the code anyway, so peering eyes won't be able to find it as easily. And if they wrap it in an anonymous function, it is completely locked out from external access anyway. No console actions can access 100% anonymous functions as far as I know. It is an unintended feature of the privacy system since you have no access to the entire memory state of JS. >What about requestAnimationFrame and counting time between each call? Yeah, that system works well. Stepping through the code both in logic and graphics separately can keep them in sync. This is how I always done it too. It just makes the entire process so easy to work with and figure out rather than depending on the system to maintain 60FPS all the time every time. If you need an animation to run at half-FPS, you simply half its stepping, simple. Also makes it easy to add 2-3-4x speed to games
>> [_] FlashMoses 3266615 >># Fine, but only for this thread. I'm the unzip-and-serve guy. >># Hypercard was incredibly badass. It's something I'm definitely looking to for inspiration on how to do this whole project right.
>> [_] Anon 3266616 >># bump
>> [_] Anon 3266617 >># RIP ;_;7
>> [_] Anon 3266621 What again is the bump limit for /f/?
>> [_] Anon 3266624 >># >>Flash as a security threat was kind of a meme. Holy shit that faggot actually wrote that https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability -list/vendor_id-53/product_id-6761/Adobe- Flash-Player.html You literally can't make this shit up, my sides are gone.
>> [_] Anon 3266625 >># This is a sticky, so doesn't matter. I don't think there is a bump limit on /f/ any more. I remember it used to show the thread was being pruned for being old. Oh man, I forgot about that. ;_;
>> [_] Anon 3266626 >># He was drool right about how flash vulnerabilities were exaggerated. Adblocker and flash on click to play took care of any vulnerability.
>> [_] Anon 3266627 >># Threads do not have bump limit. Thread gets deleted after 30 more flashes were posted. >># >I remember it used to show the thread was being pruned for being old. Oh man, I forgot about that. ;_; What? It still shows that.
>> [_] Anon 3266628 >># html 5 is just as bad as far as security goes
>> [_] Anon 3266629 >># Do it, make a hub, somewhere centralized. The best works of 4chan _have_ to go off-site to flourish. 4chan is great for brainstorming and shitposting but anonymity becomes cheap when real work becomes expensive.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3266630 >># >And if they wrap it in an anonymous function, it is completely locked out from external access anyway. No console actions can access 100% anonymous functions as far as I know. It is an unintended feature of the privacy system since you have no access to the entire memory state of JS. Well, there's nothing we can really do to guarantee that code stays obfuscated. I'd like to include the option to do things like not allowing downloads and stuff because, hey, it's their server, but for me it goes against the kind of culture I'd like to build up around this. Companies etc... can just build their own HTML5 pages from scratch anyway. This whole system is more for the sharing/remix/community thing. Where people post flashes, someone downloads it, decompiles it, adds a bunch of stuff, and reposts it. This would be just like /f/ is now, but the decompiling part of it is a lot simpler, and you'd get access to the whole project's original code. Also it can run on smartphones (which may be good or bad). >Yeah I was thinking that, as a generic project, what you could have is the key-intercept code in a separate JS file which gets loaded in to the main file by command. I'd like this to be 100% optional on the author's side too. I'd like these projects to not need anything else to run. The details for how key intercepts should work etc... are something I think can be left for later. >># Can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Little touches like that are often what make certain frameworks and systems awesome to use. It's something I hate about a lot of open source projects, and it's probably why they have a hard time gaining popularity. Mumble existed and was really good for years before Discord came on the scene. It had a lot of niggling problems, and its interface was badly dated. It would not have taken that much effort to bring Mumble to parity--even as far as web interfaces for it, for which they had the API for years but nobody used it.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3266631 >># Discord took the market basically overnight, and it was by doing the extra 1% of the work that Mumble didn't do. Maybe the problem was that the Mumble people saw their competition as being TS/Ventrilo, and not what would eventually come along to replace them all. What they were doing seemed "good enough."
>> [_] Anon 3266632 >># >Successful exploitation could lead to arbitrary code execution Meanwhile at nothing. Successful means escaping the Pepper Sandbox on top of Flashes sandbox too. In the case of how awful Flash is, the Flash one may as well not exist, but escaping Pepper would be hard. More so, if it is Chrome, escaping Chromes sandbox is even harder. Doing all of these successfully will net you a fuckload of money at pwn2own. Sandbox and VM escapes are hot shit right now at these conventions. Last pwn2own had a VM escape. Spooky. But the requirements were crazy, 3 chained exploits. Click2play also removed a huge chunk of people from abusive flash files. >># >What? It still shows that. Wait, what? It does? Where does it still show that? I've seen threads stay up for years that weren't stickies and never showed that message since it got removed.
>> [_] Anon 3266633 >># >I've seen threads stay up for years that weren't stickies and never showed that message since it got removed. Oh, you mean outside of /f/? Yes, it was removed. It was probably made to not encourage pointless bumps from page 10.
>> [_] Anon 3266634 >># >># I really wish the Mumble devs would get off their ass. I use the thing regularly, using it right now actually (friends VPSs for game servers, chat, file host, etc.) But fucking hell there are so many dumb annoying things with it. It's like it is designed for advanced and noobs at the same time. It's dumb as shit. At least it isn't Miranda. Fuck those devs. Tried to report a bug to them once, took ages to get verified on their forum, post bug report, nothing. Even the shitty Skype devs fixed the full BSOD issues loads of people had when they created when they forced video on everyone with V5 onwards.
>> [_] Anon 3266635 There's a fresh flashlike animation editor available called Wick ( https://github.com/zrispo/wick ), but it seems kind of feature-anemic at the moment and the editor is browser-based. Nonetheless, it seems like a good start for a flash replacement.
>> [_] Anon 3266637 >># You're not from around here, are you, stranger... Pull up a chair and watch the show. Also, YOU CAN UN-STICKY THIS FAILBLOG NOW MODS, IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE.
>> [_] Anon 3266639 >># It should stay stickied
>> [_] Anon 3266640 >># No sarcasm intended, just providing support as I can
>> [_] Anon 3266641 what do people use to animate these days if not flash?
>> [_] Anon 3266642 >># http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/animate .html Rebranded flash
>> [_] FlashMoses 3266643 >># Adobe Animate is basically Flash in all but name. It has timelines, vectors etc except it can output HTML5. Before you start thinking you can convert your old flashes that way, you can't... The project has to be HTML5 from the start to work. ToonBoom is another big one. There was one that was apparently used by Studio Ghibli that was open sourced recently but I didn't have time to look at it really closely. Neither of them seem to be made to output web-shareable stuff, except as video.
>> [_] Anon 3266644 >># It should stay stickied
>> [_] Anon 3266645 >># Seconded.
>> [_] Anon 3266646 >># >># they use flash, it's called adobe animate in the newer versions, people still use flash. It's just as in like .swf that's going which unfortunatly still had a lot of uses like example the YIFF IN HELL button on 4chan city, interactive menus and like variations and loops, and loops coming after intros and like one of the best examples was The Void II by Blue Clock where all the clocks had real time and all the characters and voices changed each time because they were chosen randomly through RNG.
>> [_] Anon 3266647 >># >># what's some free animation software i can give to my sister so that she can start animating?
>> [_] Anon 3266648 >># What was the deal with the clock stuff? I saw them for years in Newgrounds flashes and nowhere else.
>> [_] Anon 3266652 >># If you can pirate Flash (er, Animate) that's still pretty good to start with. Tons of tutorials for it. OpenToonz is the name of Studio Ghibli's software. I can't vouch for how easy it is to use, but it's got a lot of tutorials out there.
>> [_] Anon 3266653 Second keeping sticky just for discussion and general planning. Of course, it could go to /g/ easily. /fg/ - flash general when?! Can work on methods of extracting, archiving and converting flash to HTML5. Gather existing projects and resources for others and try get people together and work on new open source projects to do all of the above consistently and reliably. Create solutions for people to host HTML5 content easily and safely, with as much customization on the deployment as possible so it can be catered to a hosts requirements. >># Japanese flashes too. It's in so many of them.
>> [_] Anon 3266654 >># thanks dude. my younger sister has been doing a lot of drawing on her tablet so i think she'd be really good at animating.
>> [_] Anon 3266655 >># It was a spam crew originally. Basically in 2000 a guy called Coolboyman thought it'd be funny to make some extremely shit flashes, he made a new account called StrawberryClock which he named after Strawberry Alarm Clock and made total shit and sometimes it'd pass portal. He made a flash called A and it got blammed so he made another called B. WadeFulp thought it was funny so he made it unblammable and it passed. Newgrounds users at the time were just angry teens looking at hentai games and assassin games all fucking day so seeing this red letter B just pissed everyone off. http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/28 240 After this a few other people started making tributes as like OrangeClock, RaspberryClock and GrapesClock etc. and it grew massively, most of it was spam in the early days but a lot actually ended up making decent movies. http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/30 341 A lot of other crews followed like Lock Legion (FAGS), Star Syndicate, Glock Group, Barney Bunch, KITTY KREW etc. the later 3 were all spam and always massvoted through judgement and then massvoted down to get turd of the week eventually leading to Wade removing the award.
>> [_] Anon 3266656 >># It should stay stickied
>> [_] Anon 3266659 >># "technically", it's 350, if I recall correctly. Only ever seen when the board gets broken and normal pruning stops working. But this is a sticky, it dies when the mods are done having their little laugh at the expense of your collective panic.
>> [_] Anon 3266660 what is this
>> [_] Anon 3266661 >># >Of course, it could go to /g/ easily. Search "flash" in the /g/ catalog and you get >ADOBE FLASH IS FINISHED >Adobe Announces Flash Distribution and Updates to End KEK LMAO /g/ is trash, death of years of software is treated like a game
>> [_] Anon 3266664 >># Very true. I did forget that when posting it. /g/ is very shit outside of a few discrete communities that generally stay away from the rest of the shitposting reddit kiddies and /v/ posters.
>> [_] Anon 3266667 >># /g/ is very shit. That's all. The /prog/ and techloli/g/y spirit is gone, It's all GPUposting, WHICH PHONE DO I BUY GUYS, battlestation threads, and more, more, more consumer electronics. There's nothing redeeming about it anymore. And unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any better community exists, apart from lainchan, maybe.
>> [_] Anon 3266671 >># /dpt/ is probably the only decent thread on there. The rest is just circlejerking about dumb shit.
>> [_] Anon 3266672 >># The end of an era It's been a ride
>> [_] Anon 3266673 >># >wintoddler is mad because people call out the shitty software he uses What a surprise, people who actually are concerned for technology are glad flash is dying. >death of years of software is treated like a game Literally nobody forced you to make animations in a closed-source application, now you reap the consequences of sucking corporate cock. >># >># >># Most of /prog/ moved to /dpt/ and textboards outside 4chan, they don't give a shit about flash's demise, /cyb/ and /sec/ people are celebrating it. Please stay at your containment board.
>> [_] Anon 3266674 Tex /f/ag meetup when
>> [_] Anon 3266676 /g/ is the most pathetic board ever. I went to it after nyaapocalypses and stayed some time in nyaa replacement generals. So much incompetency, so much shitposting, so many people being new and ignorant. And in the end their site is not supported even by /a/.
>> [_] Anon 3266677 >># I miss the techloli/g/y days. After the macrumors shit, /g/ become known to every shit fag and they all flooded the place. I miss /g/oogle wave. That shit was fun. All those waves we did. But that was at the beginning of Google becoming shit, writing ridiculously high-overhead JavaScript by enclosing it all in deep chains like fucking retards. Not to mention the event handler abuse. Oh dear christ the horrors. /dpt/ is fairly decent. /cyb/ has gotten shittier and shittier as time has passed sadly.
>> [_] Anon 3266678 >># lel thanks for reminding me of pantsu's fucking incompetency, that shit was gold.
>> [_] Anon 3266680 >># >Most of /prog/ moved to /dpt/ No they didn't >and textboards outside 4chan Which you'd know are all dead if you weren't a newfag, progrider is RIP and most of the old /prog/ people just dispersed into various communities. Some on IRC, some on 8ch, and others just stopped caring or try to post in the 2 or 3 interesting /g/ threads posted a day >Literally nobody forced you to make animations in a closed-source application, now you reap the consequences of sucking corporate cock. Ease of use compared to alternate and historical accumulation of userbase just made it impossible for /f/ to use any other format, not to mention none of them can run in the browser. In the end, this is a niche community, and while it is true that Flash is horrible software, for the purposes of this board, losing it is still a real tragedy. Now get the fuck out of my board. >># >/cyb/ has gotten shittier and shittier as time has passed sadly. Yep, the community is filled with emo shits and depressed blogposting anons now. Not to mention everything is divided between 8/cyber/, regular lainchan, lainchan.jp, and a bunch of other splitting drama that nobody fucking cares about. I wish it didn't have to go this way.
>> [_] Anon 3266681 >># The massive roleplaying on /cyb/ killed it so bad. Also just the general "lel botnet" shitposting that infected everything on /g/. Fucking Kaspersky is even getting it because it injects code in to sites to prevent malware. Like every pro-active AV. There's a large number of legit illiterates in those threads that are purely there for /cyb/ media, not the actual culture and life. So, hipsters. Cyberpunk is going to be the new faux geek. Calling it now.
>> [_] Anon 3266684 >># >No they didn't Yes they did. >Which you'd know are all dead if you weren't a newfag You don't know there are active textboards and yet still call somebody a newfag kek. >losing it is still a real tragedy. Again, you have manufactured this tragedy yourself, you decided to get dependent on a company because "muh convienience" and now you're surprised you got literally embraced, extended and extinguished by adobe. >Now get the fuck out of my board. No, fuck you, you anti freedom fags have already destroyed /g/, I'm not going to let go this opportunity to dance over the grave of some shit software.
>> [_] Anon 3266685 >># >kek >># Not but really.
>> [_] Anon 3266687 >># Well Synthwave is the new Steampunk so I wouldn't be suprised
>> [_] Anon 3266689 >># >kek Please kill you're self.
>> [_] Anon 3266693 Meh, I don´t think swf files will die though. Too much content that can´t be moved into other formats like all the old clicker porn games like moving e.c.m etc. I´m pretty sure in the 3 years until adobe stops working someone will develop a programm for running swf files in it (like vlc does for mp4). If not I would loose 1/3 of my porn clicker games which would make me rather sad.
>> [_] Anon 3266694 >># >># >being a jaded oldfag Its time to stop being a nostalgic luddite and move on, you're as bad as /v/ manchildren mourning over some mallware.
>> [_] Anon 3266697 >># Welp, its been fun lads... wish i could post a picture of a man doing a salute here or smth
>> [_] Anon 3266698 What will all those flash porn guys do? There are so many of them and they produce good shit.
>> [_] Anon 3266699 >># I still visit z0r regularly. The forums may be dead but the rest of the site is fine. z0r's irc channel is still surprisingly active.
>> [_] Anon 3266700 i was here, was fun, love you guys <3
>> [_] Anon 3266701 >># ;_;7 That'll do, pig, that'll do
>> [_] Anon 3266702 >># Continue? It won't die instantly on 2020. Adobe will stop supporting it. Browsers will likely drop it. Millions of people keep around old software for legacy apps that can't be updated easily or cheaply. All it takes is an old browser / standalone flash player to be kept around solely for them. Run inside a sandbox and it can prevent people abusing your computer via exploits that might be found over time. Or go full VM if you are worried enough. The overhead of VMs is well below 5% these days with hardware virtualization being common in all mid-tier processors by default now.
>> [_] Anon 3266704 >># Yeah but I dont think the guys that produce it for a living cant afford to keep with a format not supported by browsers, it locks out the demographic most likely to pay for porn online: not too tech savy people.
>> [_] Anon 3266705 >># I still fail to understand why this will effect flash based content. What exactly are they going to do? Delete all of our swf files and uninstall our flash players? People have been whining about the doom of flash for years now, just because they posted another "This is it for flash" post doesn't mean swf is just going to disappear instantly once 2020 rolls around. Honestly its kind of annoying and pointless whenever these flash is doomed threads pop up, the fact this one is a sticky just makes it worse.
>> [_] Anon 3266707 >># I hope so. Don´t want to have to jump through loops like disabling autobrowserupdates just to run my old porn stash.
>> [_] Anon 3266709 >># >It won't die instantly on 2020. >Browsers will likely drop it. It will die before 2020. All major browsers are already planning to drop it before Adobe does.
>> [_] Anon 3266710 >># The browsers will stop being combatible with flash. thus u won´t be able to run them.
>> [_] Anon 3266711 >># >what are plugins
>> [_] Anon 3266712 >># Because this time it's different. Dropping support = browsers drop it = the bottom of the whole community falls out.
>> [_] Anon 3266713 >># Eh, most people that follow a typical Patreon tier maker are at the least technically literate enough to install Sandboxie and install a flash player inside of it. It's barely a few bunch of steps and you're done. Even the ones that pirate are technically literate enough. (even though I have seen some right dumb cunts on /t/ and here) They'd likely lose no more than 20% on average based on figures I pulled out of my ass. But yeah, they really should learn new tech. HTML5 is fine for all hentai games I have seen as it is now. The only things I don't see working in HTML5 that were in Flash are stupidly optimized, hardware accelerated Flash. That is also very rarely used since advanced Flash actually never took off. You can run fucking Unreal Engine 3 in Flash, for example. Not checked to see if they have an HTML5 version running. Will do now. yep, they do. God damn. I take that back.
>> [_] Anon 3266714 rip to probably the best community on 4chan, it was fun you guys ;_;7
>> [_] Anon 3266715 >># Didn't you read the post you're replying to?
>> [_] Anon 3266717 >># Just because the browser doesn't support flash doesn't mean you can't run it. There's always a third party solution. >># Granted, this anon does have a point that it will still alienate a majority of casual users.
>> [_] Anon 3266718 >># we will survive somehow
>> [_] Anon 3266720 >># Browsers are already dropping plugin support, flash is the last one to go. Firefox is also nerfing its addons to the level of Chrome aka useless. You're p. stupid if you believe there will be a solution that doesn't involve an outdated browser or HTML5 .swf interpreters.
>> [_] Anon 3266721 >># Godspeed you weed emperor
>> [_] Anon 3266722 This is (not) the end.
>> [_] Anon 3266724 >># Did you read what I wrote? Maybe you should do a second take. Not everyone uses un-customized, pre-packaged browsers like you.
>> [_] Anon 3266727 Well we can always just download an old internet explorer from somewhere to run them right?
>> [_] Anon 3266728 >># or just not update
>> [_] Anon 3266729 >># You cannot "customize" a browser to suddenly support a plugin. Are you talking about using some firefox fork or an older version?
>> [_] Anon 3266730 >># not very likely considering that microsoft packages them into theier autoupdate. Seems easier to just download and old one.
>> [_] Anon 3266731 >># So you are p. stupid.
>> [_] Anon 3266732 Part of why I like /f/ so much is because it's a board that's been here since the beginning of 4chan, it's ancient heritage and the culture has barely changed over the years. I mean, take the weekday traditions for example, Miku Monday, Touhou Tuesdays still survive, fridayatlast.swf is still posted on fridays, Thursgays is actually pretty new but still. Also old flashes from nearly 10 years ago are still posted regularly, some even from early 2000's. /f/ is like a window to the past and now it's really gonna die out due to flash finally getting axed. I hope hiroshimoot keeps this board where we can endlessly repost til we get forced updates and no longer have flash playback anymore
>> [_] Anon 3266733 >># >># >># >using anything from microsoft Disgusting.
>> [_] Anon 3266734 >># Plugins WERE the 3rd party solution. Once the API is dropped, Flash, UnityWeb, Silverlight, VLCs media player for embed/object based video and every other plugin is gone. Sure, you can almost certainly expect a fork, but it will still mean you are running an API and plugin that is no longer being updated by anyone. Fine if you run it in a sandbox and use it solely for plugin-based media. But the longer it is like that, the more likely exploits are capable of escaping and causing havoc. >># Can just keep an old Chrome for it. Chrome before they removed NPAPI is best. PPAPI flash is inferior shit. If you want to go full-on, make a Windows VM image that boots2Chrome with flash. (pick your least hated Windows) Strip out anything non-essential for Windows to run. (>90% of it, literally, not exaggeration, most is drivers+legacy) A little known feature in Chrome is you can ctrl+O to open files. Use that to get your flash files. Don't even keep Explorer around. Delete it. It's shite. Once you have it all set up, make it read-only VM image. Make a backup just in case you fuck it up. Done. You can always add new flash files if people still cling on to it, or you find new ones you never saw before.
>> [_] Anon 3266737 >># >Thursgays is actually pretty new Gachimuchi in general is pretty old either way, though, isn't it?
>> [_] Anon 3266738 >># That cut deeper than expected.
>> [_] Anon 3266739 >># >using windows >using chrome Why are you subjecting yourself to this plebeian shit?
>> [_] Anon 3266740 >># Oh yeah, the original video on nico that started it all was uploaded on 30/Sep/2007 ...oh god we're about to hit the 10 year anniversary, wonder if there's gonna be anything special coming out to celebrate
>> [_] Anon 3266741 >># Its not about making the browser support anything, you just make a plugin to support the content you want. There are plenty of thrid party applications out there capable of playing flash, I don't see why that couldn't be adapted to a plugin, unless you're using a crap browser like edge. >># Well, that's what I'm talking about, sure it won't be updated, and there will probably be security exploits found, that doesn't mean it will be impossible to play flash content. But seriously, why do you need such a convoluted plan for running flash content through a browser? There's plenty of third party options, flash no longer supporting or updating won't just magically make all that disappear.
>> [_] Anon 3266742 >># Just doing it for the ones that don't want to use Linux. Besides, Gnash has zero support for newer flash shit. It's barely even 10 compatible. NOPE.
>> [_] Anon 3266743 >># cause most of us casual fucks don´t know how to operate anything not prepackaged. VR sounds like rocket sience to me.
>> [_] Anon 3266744 >># How about stop using flash?
>> [_] Anon 3266745 >># >The only things I don't see working in HTML5 that were in Flash are stupidly optimized, hardware accelerated Flash WebGL basically brought high performance graphics to the browser. Basically anything is possible with it now.
>> [_] Anon 3266746 >># Plugins are going away. They were a bad idea anyway.
>> [_] Anon 3266748 >># >But seriously, why do you need such a convoluted plan for running flash content through a browser? Because using a one-in-all solution is why even the CIA get hacked. Removing old and deprecated systems from the internet is essential to proper security unless you absolutely know 100% how it works and how to secure it. Most don't. Even intelligence agencies. These days Virtualization is so trivial to do. In 5 years, it will be commonplace. Linux, for example, now has virtual GPU drivers being tested. This will allow a GPU to be shared to every OS on a machine in the same way the CPU is. This will make Linux with Windows VM for gaming as easy as "click here to turn on [blah blah]". At present, using GPU passthrough is hit-or-miss. It is highly CPU, motherboard and GPU dependent. >># Yeah. I mean, I knew Quake Live was there, but I thought it pretty much stuck at there since nothing else was using it. But UE4 works in HTML5 now. Fuck me. However, just like Flash, I don't see advanced HTML5 graphics via webGL taking off. I hope I am wrong. But I think the web as we know it now will be dead before it gets a chance.
>> [_] Anon 3266750 >># >stop using Flash >/f/ Why oh why are you here. >hey /mus/ why use instruments when synths exist lolol kek lmao
>> [_] Anon 3266751 >># Open Source
>> [_] Anon 3266753 7chan has a flash bored if 4chan's flash get's deleted we will convince 7chan to keep theirs it up
>> [_] Anon 3266754 >># >comparing the irrational desire to support a dead proprietary format to the art of playing musical instruments >not focusing instead how to convert it to more open formats It's not even funny at this point.
>> [_] Anon 3266755 >># >Because using a one-in-all solution is why even the CIA get hacked. Well I really have no concern about the integrity of my system, I don't keep anything important on it, and everything I do want to keep, i backup externally. If you want to be overly paranoid about a swf, go ahead. But honestly, the internet is full of old depreciated systems already, removing flash wont make that big of an impact. The whole internet is built off of shitty software that desperately needs to be reworked but never will.
>> [_] Anon 3266756 rember swiff player and iswiff? I´m pretty sure someone is gonna bring out a similar more uptodate programm like that.
>> [_] Anon 3266757 Never die flash, I love your lack of security and many exploits.
>> [_] Anon 3266759 >># 8ch has one too, which is the least likely to get deleted.
>> [_] Anon 3266760 >># So basically a format isn´t open anymore due to a big company dropping software? That´s dumb. Show me an alternative format than that also allows a smooth convertion.
>> [_] Anon 3266761 >># >But I think the web as we know it now will be dead before it gets a chance. To be replaced with what? Phone apps? Normies still love the web.
>> [_] Anon 3266762 >># I think if we all work on gnash it will be that
>> [_] Anon 3266763 >># >The whole internet is built off of shitty software that desperately needs to be reworked but never will. I can certainly agree with you there. I almost want a nuclear-level attack on the net to wipe it off the face of the Earth. It fucking blows 10 kinds of ass. It needs to be redone from scratch. So much legacy shit is holding it back. Doesn't matter where you look, every layer of the OSI model is fucked, every protocol is fucked, every viewer is fucked, it's all fucked. TCP, for example, isn't even that good yet it is used for damn near everything. UDP with error-correction is better than fucking TCP and that shouldn't even make sense! TCP isn't used outside of the internet. Anyone creating low-latency high-bandwidth roll their own protocols. Then you have IPv4 and IPv6. Switchover NEVER. IPv6 is hated by most people that need to implement it and there is no incentive to implement it unless rolling out new systems. There is so much wrong with IPv6. Holy fuck, such a piece of shit. >># Normies are all on apps now. This is why Facebook (the site) is progressively dying. If it ain't Insta, Snap or whatever else, it's shit. Hell, people are even dropping Facebook itself and exclusively using Messenger now. People HATE Facebook now. It's hilarious. They fucked it up so much. But as long as they have Messenger, Instagram and some other stuff, they will be relevant.
>> [_] Anon 3266765 >># Late reply, but I haven't updated my Chrome or Firefox for 2-3 years so I honestly never knew that they did this.
>> [_] Anon 3266766 >># then there
>> [_] Anon 3266768 >># >I almost want a nuclear-level attack on the net to wipe it off the face of the Earth. >to be replaced with Comcast newest innovation >the internet is now ONE WAY! >you want to watch TV, not let your children get hacked by pedophiles >in order to send anything you have to pay for the super deluxe upload package >unless its Facebook, who, thanks to a multi-year deal now has exclusive access >get 15% off your next bill for informing on your neighbors
>> [_] Anon 3266774 swf will never die, due to either getting a standalone program or one that can convert them into the next format. nuff said.
>> [_] Anon 3266779 >># There's also 4taba.net/f/
>> [_] Anon 3266781 515 replies. I never thot I'd see the day.
>> [_] Anon 3266789 >># You ain't said near enough.
>> [_] Anon 3266796 >># >This is why Facebook (the site) is progressively dying. citation pls
>> [_] Anon 3266798 >># >This is why Facebook (the site) is progressively dying. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40732036 don't spout BS
>> [_] Anon 3266799 hopefully /f/ will move on to a new format
>> [_] Anon 3266802 >># >># In his defense, I heard that snapchat and instagram are more popular with gen z, don't have any sources for that though.
>> [_] Anon 3266804 >># guess who owns Instagram
>> [_] Anon 3266806 >># >looked it up Damn, /cyb/ anons weren't kidding.
>> [_] Anon 3266809 >># I'll miss you all.
>> [_] Anon 3266811 Why is this shit still stickied? We all know now, it's just novelty shitposting at this point.
>> [_] Anon 3266813 rip
>> [_] Anon 3266816 >># If it gets unstickied, you'll be reminded of it again with a billion new uploads. It keeps the grieving contained.
>> [_] Anon 3266817 ahhhhhhhhh
>> [_] Anon 3266821 /f/
>> [_] Anon 3266822 >># the facebook app is utter shite. It's basically glorified adware. Everyone just uses messenger now, which has been developped so much it might as well be it's own app. Feature crawls don't mix well with mobiles. The site is good, still bearable if you like to keep tabs on friends and events.
>> [_] Anon 3266828 >># >lern2moonrunes >live in 2channel forever seems legit
>> [_] Anon 3266829 >># >already covered this but here we go again... It's not about thee format, it's about everything that goes INTO it... the entire Actionscript API and the codebase of the interpreter/Flash sandbox. It's taken literally several hundred developers 2 decades to get the state of this art to where it currently is. Nothing is getting open-sores, and nothing is going to approximate the form and function of such a unique animal. It's simply time to get OK with the future, and maybe be part of The Next Big Thing.
>> [_] Anon 3266831 >># >to get the state of this art to where it currently is To be fair, the last decade of flash was pretty much useless advanced features nobody used.
>> [_] Anon 3266832 >># THIS >reality feels bad, man
>> [_] Anon 3266833 Press /f/ to pay respects.
>> [_] Anon 3266834 >># That's what I keep saying. >># We still got that. Have you looked outside this thread in the past 36 hours? >># Exactly, but rest assured the vacuous nothing is magnitudes more codebase than any 'community' could handle. Especially in its state of disease. It pains me to say it, but Flash is an evolutionary dead-end. The Dodo of applications. If only Adobe hadn't shit all over it since its acquisition, and had the forethought to develop in a more... sane? manner, to evolve it inn foresight instead of hindsight... This never had to happen, but there's Adobe for you. All about their subscription-based jewgold, never about the tech. F
>> [_] Anon 3266838 So... Is the end? ;_;
>> [_] Anon 3266840 >># Not for a couple years, no. Soon, though.
>> [_] Anon 3266844 I'll miss you all It's been a fun couple of years, and hopefully a fun few more.
>> [_] Anon 3266846 I don't know what's going to happen, but I love you guys and I love this board. I'm going to miss you guys and your great/terrible OC. ;_;
>> [_] Anon 3266849 >># true /f/aggots will find an alcove, we will carry on.
>> [_] Anon 3266850 >># I've been here for about 10 years, I'll follow you into the dark, anon.
>> [_] Anon 3266858 this is the only board i even visit
>> [_] Anon 3266861 >># kek'd
>> [_] Anon 3266863 >># FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF mother/f/ucker
>> [_] Anon 3266864 This reminds me of when Bender downgraded to a wooden chassis and took refuge on that deserted island...
>> [_] Anon 3266866 well goodbye /f/ I love you I'll draw /f/ tan one last time before he fades off into a memory
>> [_] Anon 3266871 "HTML5 standards implemented in modern browsers provide similar capabilities with improved performance, battery life, and security, according to Microsoft, which planned to transition away from Flash in Edge and Internet Explorer browsers." >http://www.timesnownews.com/technology- science/article/online-gaming-videos-adob e-to-kill-support-for-flash-by-2020-html5 -to-take-over/67057 *improved performance* WHAT FUCKING LIES thanks M$, fuck you yet again, and fuck Adooboo for following your shitty ass. another case of The Monopolies dictating their terms. I BET [~KNOW~] THIS WINDS UP LIKE ACTIVEX OR ASP
>> [_] Anon 3266872 >># (moar) Also, you have that "Midas Touch" too, look what you did to Minecraft. I hope you all die of colon cancer, VERY SLOWLY.
>> [_] Anon 3266874 seriously? man, /f/ was the only reason I'd visit this hell-hole known as 4chan. I've found countless games and entertaining content with this little board. Feels pretty bad desu, I'll miss everyone and everything
>> [_] Anon 3266876 >Implying flash received any care other than the security updates >Implying I update Flash regularly >Implying anything changing Flash is here to stay, at least for the people still interested. It's already dead to everybody else except us anyway.
>> [_] Anon 3266877 >># well Microsoft for you
>> [_] Anon 3266880 555th reply wohoo
>> [_] Anon 3266881 >># 556
>> [_] Anon 3266883 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs /Plugins/Flash_to_HTML5 So much info, yet so much garbage
>> [_] Anon 3266884 >># Wasn't that taken up by a dev years ago, re-created, and sold? I've got it on my steam list. Or do you mean ANOTHER version that's free and without all the silly addon stuff?
>> [_] Anon 3266887 >># >># >be /g/tard >hates flash >goes to a board dedicated to flash >starts shit because he hates flash good boy this place has trained you well
>> [_] Anon 3266888 >># >Threads do not have bump limit. This is false. Threads stop bumping, i.e. going to the top of the page) at 300 posts; however the position of a thread only effects when it gets deleted if two threads have the exact same timestamp.
>> [_] Anon 3266889 >># Please don't feed the trolls. >># Reading this, it's clear: We'll have to learn an entirely new (unstabilized) API to replicate the behaviour of Actionscript and Flash. ...and also learn new ways to kluge Javascript to fill in the blanks. >spins chamber and points revolver to head
>> [_] Anon 3266890 >># >I'm suddenly having nostalgia about 2004 internet for some fucking reason
>> [_] Anon 3266891 >># >Which you'd know are all dead not that other guy but the various ones I go to get at least one post per day. Also fast does not mean good.
>> [_] Anon 3266892 >># all proprietary software companies are full of shit
>> [_] Anon 3266900 Is /f/ still gonna be around? What does this mean?
>> [_] Anon 3266902 >># Good luck. /f/ooty will be our legacy.
>> [_] Anon 3266904 Fuck, I was just getting around to getting motivated to pirating adobe flash so I could get started making flash. Oh well, rip in piss. You had a good run. It was /f/un while it lasted. See you later space cowboys.
>> [_] Anon 3266908 To all of you who have posted here and will read this: /f/, and flash in general, was what got me so interested in the internet. I played shitty flash games and great ones alike, and it taught me how to tell the difference without suffering through them. I still remember the first porn I ever saw, and it was an animation on Newgrounds. Goodnight, /f/lash. Goodnight, youth.
>> [_] Anon 3266919 delete this don't let the replies surpass yogi oki doki
>> [_] Anon 3266928 >># Cool times. What about 1998 internet though? https://web.archive.org/web/201103311830 39/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWq4DW frpu8 >unsurprisingly jewtube messed with this little gem of internet heritage >mobileshit won't be trashed along with flash anytime soon Hope the heat is adequate down there, Steve.
>> [_] Anon 3266937 >># https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLcBZ2_k 1OI
>> [_] Anon 3266944 godspeed
>> [_] Anon 3266945 This sucks. Flash has its problems but I like the quick-n-simple things that were made with it. Fuck, this makes me feel like I really don't know about modern tech. Also, this got me thinking. Browsing as we know it now could just be fazed away. 4chan could be made incompatible to death. Hell, the cynic in me can see the monopolization of the internet happen by making certain parts of it incompatible. Is that possible? I don't know much, sorry.
>> [_] Anon 3266948 >># Very possible. It's probably what lots of companies are hoping for. Incompatibility means vendor lock-in, which means more money for Facebook/Google.
>> [_] Anon 3266950 >># >># and if we don't fight it will happen
>> [_] Anon 3266952 Here's a shitty story: I used to make (and monetize) Flash avatars, pets, toys, and backgrounds on Whirled when it was a thriving community. Whirled was a purely Flash-based virtual world full of user-made chatrooms, and a virtual arcade full of great games where any and all users could upload content (including those games). Several years ago, Three Rings gave up on it as it was a loss-leader, selling it to SEGA. SEGA promptly killed the monetization model, and disabled music in chat rooms and uploads, as DRM-liabilities. Then one of the founders (Grey Havens, www.greyhavens.co) gained the rights to the codebase and attempted to continue the experience, to no avail. April 2016, it finally died, and suddenly went offline, leaving its dedicated Flash artists in the lurch. However, the codebase was quietly open-sourced. A number of forks were created, though none took off... except Synced (http://www.syncedonline.com ... note that this site in any of its iterations has only worked in Chrome since about 2014 - thanks Firefux!) Virtually all the dedicated user base found their way there (myself included), and as of this writing are still working hard to fix all the long-established bugs and extend the life of this wonderful community... and then Adobe shits the bed. After being tossed off the ship, and surviving shark attacks and hypothermia, the Flash wonks that made such a creative, expressive community are now doomed to succumb to drowning in the Deep.) All those thousands of hours I spent developing Flash goodies that brought joy to so many (and only turning a meager penny) down the drain, while Adobe vacuums up ever-increasing volumes of ducats in subscription fees well beyond the monolith price of their apps... MY RAGE AND MOURNING CANNOT BE CONTAINED
>> [_] Anon 3266961 >># >># The software is not dying, it's not dead, only being proclaimed dead. Instead of letting it die with the announcement, many of us in this thread, on this board, in your game, in your world, are planning to continue not its legacy, but its life. The first person can no longer exist in this state of post-EOL. It can only be OUR >rage and mourning that can not be contained, anon. Share your stories with us; many of us will have similar ones to tell you, and from the memories of the world since passed, we will sprout again anew.
>> [_] Anon 3266963 >># >we will sprout again anew The great Flash Phoenix, born anew of its own turds
>> [_] Anon 3266965 >># It won't be dead until we are
>> [_] Anon 3266967 Hey. It's been a ride man. Love y'all
>> [_] Anon 3266969 >># All I'm seeing is the rambling of a fossil who couldn't see past his nose, and blames the wall he inevitably bumped into instead of the most obvious source for blame. Not sorry that you couldn't keep up with the times. Because you people didn't re-implement it in a modern web format like HTML5, which will never die due to its status as an official part of the spec as defined by the W3C, then you only have yourselves to blame.
>> [_] Anon 3266970 >># I killed myself.
>> [_] Anon 3266974 >># >memefaggotry Yeah, you can gtfo any time now. You completely missed the point of all that, but that's to be expected of a fucktard. >>>/whereverthehellitisyoucomefrom/
>> [_] Anon 3266975 >># >W3C as canon ALL MY FUCKING KEK WAAAH!!!!
>> [_] Anon 3266980 ;_;7 Posting in largest thread in the history of /f/ Hi mom!
>> [_] Anon 3266981 >># No, the largest had 754 replies
>> [_] Anon 3266983 It's two years away, bitch about it later.
>> [_] Anon 3266986 >># ...and then you wake up one day and it's ALL GONE Prepare for the inevitable.
>> [_] Anon 3266987 Jesus
>> [_] Anon 3266990 >># >># >># It's worse when you realize people growing up with this type of shit will simply accept it as the norm. in fact, it's introduced at an ever earlier age, just look at tablet computers designed for children.
>> [_] Anon 3266991 RIP flash. I've made some good OC for you, including tumblrtale for /f/.
>> [_] Anon 3266993 >># Aye.
>> [_] Anon 3267002 >># http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1424 896 mourn with your fellow flash enthusiasts
>> [_] Anon 3267006 >># I agree with this, although I'm not really helping by agreeing >># tumblrtale was great
>> [_] Anon 3267010 >># >silent lurkers you found me rip /f/, it was a good ride.
>> [_] Anon 3267012 >># Yep. Even my 3 year old niece has a tablet of her own with shitty apps on it for children. Ironically, she actually doesn't like it much at all. She works on MY tablet better since it isn't a piece of junk designed for idiots. She can play Fallout Shelter on my tablet, which is way more advanced than I expected for her to be able to comprehend. That includes managing the resources and invasions. (and I have my vault set up in such a way to min-max the fuck out of resource gains) I remember three of my cousins at her age. They were thick as shit. One of my cousins was unable to say my name properly until he was 7, she could say my full name at 2! Genius niece incoming. Luckily her mother (sister-in-"blood" I guess, longer story) takes her out and does stuff with her often too. She won't let her daughter turn in to a vegetable. We'll be watching her this weekend, actually.
>> [_] = 3267015 PARTY'S OVER Also, >stickies on /f/
>> [_] Anon 3267016 >># sure, but that's 7chan. We didn't migrate with them when they split off for a reason.
>> [_] Anon 3267019 >># or browsers refuse to run it.
>> [_] Anon 3267020 >># we're not done yet.
>> [_] Anon 3267021 >># Is this why Zone swapped to MP4 for his Extreme Ghostbusters? And wow, I bet game sites like Kongregate are in full panick mode right now. I know you can still use animate to make videos nearly the same, but how many interactive/scripted content creators do you think this will take out of commission, since they won't know the new systems? Are we about to see a massive drop in interactive OC in three years?
>> [_] Anon 3267022 >># Game developers and portals won't have an issue, they can just switch to offering Unity games.
>> [_] Anon 3267023 >># 1. sure but what about old games on their site? 2. I don't expect them to switch so much as I expect them to be replaced by creators already familiar with those systems, much as what is already happening. For normal games, this is a decent enough chunk I think it'll be fine, it's basically already underway. For lewd, ehhh, seems more iffy. How many quality lewd Unity/Html5/WebGL game creators are their right now? Any recognizable names I'm aware of all use Flash.
>> [_] Anon 3267024 >># http://blog.kongregate.com/html5-is-here/ Kongregate looks to be doing fine. They started switching over early. Also, Unity looks to be dying quicker than flash. It may not be abandoned by its company, but it certainly has been by its game creators.
>> [_] Anon 3267025 >># >unity Not gonna happen, unity had a very short period of browser game marketshare before it was completely overtaken by html5
>> [_] Anon 3267029 its been fun boys, I'll miss the good times and the nice posting flash's and you know what I'll even miss the bad flash's.
>> [_] Anon 3267031 AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>> [_] Anon 3267034 >># >only using /f/ I can't imagine how boring your life must be. /f/ is a fucking dead board. Go to /bant/ or /his/ too or something.
>> [_] Anon 3267036 >># Damn, I knew the day would eventually come It's been a great time
>> [_] Anon 3267040 >># >># i will be coding a program that can run the flash plugin outside the browser and once that's don't a plugin to interface with it. about 99% of malicious flashes merely direct you to another website with some dangerous bullshit (the code isn't actually in the swf) rare exceptions but something that can easily be intercepted and stopped. basically something like a projector but with some features that simulate the swf being inside a web page(tucked away in the settings menu) might do shock-wave and java too though they will be separate programs
>> [_] Anon 3267041 >># well not a plugin an "addon" since the "plugin" system disappearing is that i intent to remedy. basically a self contained program and a "browser extension" to scoop up the url of the swf and open it in a pop up window
>> [_] Anon 3267056 >># >># For Brits, the day is already fast approaching where sites like 4chan will become inaccessible. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40628909 http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ gadgets-and-tech/news/theresa-may-interne t-conservatives-government-a7744176.html In just 9 months time, Brits will need to provide their credit card details in order to access 4chan, and any other websites with porn or 18+ content on it. There are also government plans to create a new British government regulated internet, free of any websites that in any way could be considered extremist. As bad as that is I doubt it will end there, it never does.
>> [_] Anon 3267059 My question is: Is there any chance to stop this? Or is simply the very end? Also, what's the song in >># ?
>> [_] Anon 3267060 >># >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40628909 i like in the UK and its fast approaching, parental controls are automatically enabled by your ISP and you have to disable them. they also have an 18+ setting (made to look like an off button) but still blocks 4chan for being a "hacking/anonymizing" site in the words of my isp. China will become one of the more free countries not by reform but by other countries becoming more draconian. Kinda like how Norway was once more far left than Sweden but Sweden overtook it. Luckily i have money in the bank and i 3 years time can afford ti leave the uk and become an off grid prepper abroad £50k should do it
>> [_] Anon 3267068 >># I doubt he only uses 4chan for entertainment
>> [_] Anon 3267070 >># don't update it
>> [_] Anon 3267074 >># >># On the bright side, this will keep out normalfags who wouldn't want others to know they come here.
>> [_] Anon 3267075 >># going whip up something in visual studio that lets me click on where the flash was supposed to be and open it i plan on having the proof of concept version up and ready in a few months when i have the time. i will be testing this with google chrome and java,unity and shock wave plugins so you will be able to launch mine craft or world of sand in a pop up window. then retool it for flash when it is needed. for the time when support for plugging are removed from browsers
>> [_] Anon 3267077 MODS bin this thread and start a new one please. Don't let this snuff the Legendary yoga thread. https://archive.4plebs.org/f/thread/2804 686/#2804686 You'll go to hell if you do, don't toy with your soul!
>> [_] Anon 3267079 >># >># Jeegs, and I thought the UK was gonna be my backup in case the US finally lost what's left of its marbles. Turns out y'all are going police state before we are. Dang. Straya is conservative, I know they'll crack down eventually. Canada is liberal, so I expect them to as well. Both sides of the horseshoe want martial law, I don't know where to turn to anymore.
>> [_] Anon 3267083 >># Britain's always had a reputation for being a complete and utter nanny state. If you're looking to get away from big intrusive government, Britain is not the place to go.
>> [_] Anon 3267084 >># I mean, I was fine with the security camera. But going great firewall of china is nuts. Like, at least the US companies trying to force us that route through removal of net neutrality are in it for the money. They recognize it's unreasonable and unethical but they don't care, sucks for the little guy. This.. they think it's righteous! You can't even appeal to morality or human decency, they've deluded themselves into thinking that's what they're doing.
>> [_] Anon 3267085 >># The truth of the matter is that those in power hate you, and will stop at nothing to see you under their boot.
>> [_] Anon 3267086 >># cool
>> [_] Anon 3267087 >># Maybe a couple of people really do think they're doing good, but this insanity is being encouraged, fomented in those in power by resentful actors. Some of them had their political ideals proven utterly unworkable at best, and malevolent from their foundation on average. Others are (((ethnic minorities))) whose mythology tells them that you're their oppressors (despite them being at the tip top of your society). Others are simply your disagreeable countrymen, high in dark triad traits, who have an overwhelming drive to reach the top, to win, but were too dumb to do it right. Now that they've ended up becoming losers, they think society is rigged against them, and should be torn down. Others,usuallytheyoungerones,havebeenind octrinatedbysomecombinationoralloftheabov eintobelievingthatyourculture,yournation, ispartofadomineeringstructurethathasheldh umanitybacksinceantiquity.Theyusewordslik e"hegemony"and"patriarchy"todescribeit.Th eyhavenoideawhatlifeisreallylikeoutsideof thissystem.Theirsubconscioushasadjustedth eirbehaviorasiftheylivedinanuntrammeledpa radise--Panera(orwhateverhipstershitisbig now)isafruittreefromwhichyoucanpluckfreel y,Starbucksflowslikethewateroflife.Moneyi slikerocksortwigs--atoolthat'salwaysavail abletoyou.Theymayrealizeconsciouslythatth esethingsareman-made,buttheirbehavioristh atofanapeinparadise,whoseonlygoalinlifeis toeatandfuckandtrytomakesuretheirrivalsdo n'teatandfuckquiteasmuch.(therearesomewho believethatweevolvedourmentalcapacityinaf ashionanalogoustothePeacock'sfeathers--to induce sexual selection for creativity, intelligence) They won't understand, until that first winter bears down, killing most of them, how bad things really can get.
>> [_] Anon 3267088 >># Can't you prevent your ISP from throttling you by using a VPN though?
>> [_] Anon 3267090 >># Until they decide they don't want to allow that anymore.
>> [_] Anon 3267091 >># That's because half of /a/ streams anyway and a quarter will just do whatever is easiest i.e cartel. Anidex and Pantsu are good enough in that they decentralised things a little.
>> [_] Anon 3267092 >># okay /xpol/. You have a nice day too.
>> [_] Anon 3267094 >># So, yeah, make no mistake. The real people in power probably know EXACTLY what they're doing. They are very slowly slowly wrapping their hands around your throat. But don't get resentful of them. Don't become what they are. I'd recommend you read The Gulag Archipelago (or listen to the audiobook on youtube, which is what I did). What he describes is, in microcosm, what's happening in the west now. It's a brilliant fucking book. You have to read the whole thing to really get this message, and I doubt anyone is going to do that on a recommendation from some anon on an imageboard, so I'll just spoil it for you. Solzhenitsyn lays out all the atrocities that the Soviets committed. He leads you into a blind rage... You want to visit upon them all the atrocities they committed on their victims, and worse. You may have gotten the same feeling in your past when learning about Nazi atrocities. Kill them all! Painful death, in fact, torture, is just poetic justice. *Catharsis!* Let the world be clean of people who would commit such acts! Then, while all those images that *you* created of the horrible things you'd have in store for these people, if they ever got under your control, he hits you with this: “If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” You are just as bad as them. There but for the grace of God or blind luck, go you. Definitely try and stop them from doing what they're planning, but treat them, and yourself, with some sympathy. Take responsibility, own yourself. You are far more important (and dangerous!) than you give yourself credit for. Have some respect.
>> [_] Anon 3267096 >># They can just throttle all VPN traffic.
>> [_] Anon 3267099 >># The Nazis were convinced that the Jews were committing acts of terror against them. Poisoning them, casting them down into poverty. Sure, maybe you're justified in doing more than simply rendering Nazis harmless, killing them, taking them out of the world, maybe in a painful manner. But from a practical standpoint, knowing what kind of a thing you are, do you really have the chops to render that judgement? What if you're just blind, demon-haunted as them? I think it's enough just to prevent horrible things from happening as much as you're capable, regardless of the context. The alternative is endless bloody conflict. "And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him."
>> [_] Anon 3267100 >># I'm not a christian, BTW, I'm fedora as shit. I just think that the bible is extremely powerful from a psychological perspective.
>> [_] Anon 3267101 >># Y...you too.
>> [_] Anon 3267103 So where do we go from here? I've been here 5 years. What now? Is this just the end of an era long past it's peak? The internet is going to be a lot less interesting without flash and the content and creators who have used it for so long.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267104 >># We'll figure something out. The web still has a lot of possibility open to it. Consider stuff like Slither.io. We just have to find some way to make it all as accessible and easy to get started with as Flash was.
>> [_] Anon 3267106 >># We have less than 3 years, we better work quickly.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267107 >># I'm working up a little node.js app that makes it possible for users to upload .h5f files to a website. .h5f files are just zipped web pages. They can be anything: loops, games, videos, even old school stuff like YTMNDs could work. It just has to be able to be self-contained. My big goal with this is to make it really easy to make these and post them to a website quickly, get feedback, or have other people "remix" them. I could even think of some ways for us to do massive interactive stuff, have a generic websocket optionally assigned to each .h5f file, so you can have multiple users in a game for instance. That's for the distant future though.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267108 >># I am, I am. I just got two weeks vacation, and I'm going to make the most of it.
>> [_] Anon 3267109 flash@420blaze.it email if interested to try and develop an open source version of flash
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267110 >># Also we probably have less than three years. We probably should have been working on an alternative since 2008 or so.
>> [_] Anon 3267112 >># I completely agree. But now is better than never.
>> [_] Anon 3267114 lel calm down ya cunts, nothings gonna happen, just like nothing happened when windows xp got the life support cut off in 2014, everythings gonna remain the same except the overall life experience is gonna continue going straight shitwards somehow, but ironically that's nothing new im a jew and i grew in this crew with a few what a shit rhyme fuck
>> [_] Anon 3267120 >># https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-m ake-flash-open-source-before-it-s-too-lat e?source_location=minibar
>> [_] Anon 3267122 >># we will work on gnash not update are web browsers and if f is deleted from 4chan we will move to some other site
>> [_] Anon 3267125 >># Where, exactly? Probably should start figuring this out now, huh? Diaspora is a shit.
>> [_] Anon 3267129 oh lawrd a sticky on /f/ times a' changin'
>> [_] Anon 3267132 >># >HTML5 standards implemented in modern browsers provide similar capabilities with improved performance, battery life, and security this shitty lie has been coming and going through tech blogs and company outlets for like half a decade now, and it's STILL not actually true.
>> [_] Anon 3267138 >># 8ch will be a good back up site
>> [_] [RandomHero] !mfGZNk0vaI 3267152 >># So i have about couple of years to finish all of my endless projects that i have started? Better start snorting some coke.
>> [_] Anon 3267165 >># omg its randomhero :O i love your flashes
>> [_] Anon 3267177 >># FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFF-
>> [_] Anon 3267180 >># How will I C.O.C. in 2020?!?!?!?!?!? My god it will be the end of my Dick twitch!!!!!! I have to come to this crapshoot just to play that game.... I dont even know how to find it ffs
>> [_] Anon 3267189 >># Well, WINE does a pretty good job emulating windows, only about five years behind Microsoft for the most part. Since Flash VM development is going to be stopped (and it hasn't changed much in years, AND most of the popular flash files were already made by about 2-3 years ago), it means that any Flash VM emulator's bar is much lower. I have no doubt there will exist an open source Flash VM within a year or two of its discontinuation.
>> [_] Anon 3267190 >># Another thing, a Flash emu doesn't need to emulate it at the binary level-- it only needs to reinterpret the flash format and do almost everything it does. It can be a massive trial-and-error process. I'm sure there are enough nostalgic devs who want to make their favorite animutation or idiot newgrounds content work properly and submit patches.
>> [_] Anon 3267193 Three years ahead of time, huh? This is going to be a long and painful goodbye.
>> [_] Anon 3267194 Sad days ahead. I'm just assuming that since they mean it won't be distributed, I'll still be able to open up flash files I've saved with a flash projector. Pretty sure I can also open up my old version of Macromedia and start making flashes with it. Haven't read the blog post entirely, don't want to lose all faith in my favorite board that I check daily every time I can get a chance before I play vidya. I've only made 4 flashes, they weren't good but I enjoyed making them. You guys better fill me in on what were going to do, were all /f/riends here, right?
>> [_] Anon 3267208 >># gnash
>> [_] Anon 3267210 >># don't update you browser and we should be fine
>> [_] Anon 3267216 >># Lower filesize limit.
>> [_] Anon 3267218 >># well got a better idea
>> [_] Anon 3267223 >># node.js IS shit http://widgetsandshit.com/teddziuba/2011 /10/node-js-is-cancer.html You have to be less than fucking retarded to RUN FUCKING JAVASCRIPT ON YOUR SERVER
>> [_] Anon 3267224 flash gives me the big cums
>> [_] Anon 3267225 >># ALSO JAVASCRIPT HAS A LOT OF SECURITY PROBLEMS
>> [_] Anon 3267234 https://github.com/pakastin/open-source- flash
>> [_] Anon 3267238 >># Very nice
>> [_] Anon 3267240 >># I know but we all know that adobe will probably not open source it. Either by choice or due to legal hangups of patents and copyrights.
>> [_] Anon 3267245 >># You're right, it will never happen, but it's not about legalities etc. They could easily o-s it, and give up all right to the technology to the public. The problem is, whatever becomes of the fork has the potential to directly compete with their existing re-branded Animate CC. There's a reason Flash is being killed, it doesn't fit the groupthink model of the way the Biggies want the Web to 'evolve' (read 'be controlled'). If people cling to the technology, that is interference in their eyes.
>> [_] Anon 3267246 >># THE DEVIL YOU SAY? :^)
>> [_] Anon 3267249 >># The number of the beast
>> [_] Anon 3267254 >># Satania please
>> [_] Anon 3267261 >># =:^}
>> [_] Anon 3267262 >># >B^}
>> [_] Anon 3267267 Just pressure Mozilla into resuming work on Shumway.
>> [_] Anon 3267272 >># >scoop out the ocean with a sieve Yeah, sure.
>> [_] Anon 3267275 >># One of Iron Maiden's best.
>> [_] Anon 3267280 >># >There's a reason Flash is being killed, it doesn't fit the groupthink model of the way the Biggies want the Web to 'evolve' (read 'be controlled'). If people cling to the technology, that is interference in their eyes. Hit the mark right on the head. If I could post images, I'd post the "consolidation of the web" one. Look at these quotes from the articles. Adobe >In addition, we plan to move more aggressively to EOL Flash in certain geographies where unlicensed and outdated version of Flash Player are being distributed. Apple >APPLE IS WORKING WITH ADOBE, INDUSTRY PARTNERS, AND DEVELOPERS TO COMPLETE THIS TRANSITION. >Today, if users install Flash, it remains off by default. Safari require explicit approval on each website before running the Flash plugin. Jewgel >Over the last few years, Flash has become less common. I wonder why . . . I just can't put my finger on why someone wouldn't bother to jump through 3 hoops and a firepit to get Flash working on your browser. >It's taken a lot of close work with Adobe, other browsers and major publishers TO MAKE SURE THE WEB IS READY TO BE FLASH-FREE. FaceJew >While game built in Flash will run on FaceJew until the end of 2020, WE STRONGLY ADVICE DEVELOPERS TO FOLLOW THE TIMELINES SET BY BROWSERS >Join us . . . to learn how to effectivly migrate games off Flash with minimal impact to your business. To save your spot, please register here. I bet that registration isn't free! Micro$hit >Micro$hit will phase out support for Flash . . . AHEAD OF THIS DATE. >BY THE END OF 2020, WE WILL REMOVE THE ABILITY TO RUN ADOBE FLASH IN MICRO$HIT OW-THE-EDGE AND INTERNET EXPLORER ACROSS ALL SUPPOTED VERSIONS OF MICRO$HIT BLINDS. USERS WILL NO LONGER HAVE ANY ABILITY TO ENABLE OR RUN FLASH. >Mozzeralla ONCE FLASH IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED BY ADOBE SECURITY PATCHES, NO VERSION OF FIREFOX WILL LOAD THE PLUGIN
>> [_] Anon 3267284 >># >It's taken a lot of close work with Adobe, other browsers and major publishers TO MAKE SURE THE WEB IS READY TO BE FLASH-FREE. ...and yet, the "standard" has yet to even approach the functionality of what the REAL web has evolved into. Make no mistake, this is a concerted effort of the leading Monopolies to garner a proprietary solution to a FREE-RANGING PROBLEM (for them).
>> [_] Anon 3267292 >># ONE LAST REPLY
>> [_] Anon 3267294 >># Never said it wasn't shit. But it has nothing to do with plugins or the browser environment.
>> [_] Anon 3267297 >http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/142 4896 They seem to be OK with this. Cover the mirrors, it's time for the wake. >Javascript My fucking sides... are dying of cancer.
>> [_] Anon 3267305 Unrelated, but figured I could ask here. I used to browse /f/ 2012-2014 but haven't been on since then. I have a slight issue and I'm wondering if anyone knows a fix. I've always used chrome as my browser, and whenever I clicked on a file, it would automatically open in a new tab and play it. Now however, whenever I click on the file it downloads it instead. Any idea on a fix?
>> [_] Anon 3267306 >># >Feel free to add other interactive art projects, websites, games and experiments that you think deserve to be saved: >DICEWARS lost my shit
>> [_] Anon 3267307 OK EVERYONE, STOP RUNNING AROUND, HAIR-ON-FIRE: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9723938 They of course are (always) rather cryptic and tight-lipped, but According to Adobe, Actionscript framework (AIR platform) is NOT going away, just support for Flash Player. Flash is not exactly doomed, it's just we'll have to learn newe ways to jump the hoops to get .swf to play natively. There's a lot of good info in that link, much to search out and digest. Sleep easy tonight, /f/riends.
>> [_] Anon 3267308 i wish there was a button to kill everyone else in this sticky. you guys are retards for clinging onto one of the most shitty techs in existence that should've been phased out much, much earlier.
>> [_] Anon 3267309 >># >Make no mistake, this is a concerted effort of the leading Monopolies to garner a proprietary solution to a FREE-RANGING PROBLEM (for them). What are you on about? Flash is proprietary (or at least, the only complete implementation is), and the standards that are planned to replace it are open. The reason there's a push to get rid of Flash it that it's a terrible format. I don't doubt that Adobe has ulterior motives here, but there's no motive for groups like Google or Mozilla to go along with those. >># Flash itself is shitty, but that doesn't mean that everything made in Flash or the communities around it are.
>> [_] Anon 3267312 >># i had this same issue when i changed hard drives but i'm not sure how it was fixed. did you try messing around with settings -> advanced -> privacy and security -> content settings -> flash?
>> [_] Anon 3267315 >># Oh look, a meme-poster. Did the big bad frog kick you out of /s4s/? >># you misinterpret 'proprietary' in that context: it's what THEY want the web to look like, to become. Something they've been working feverishly for years, in M$'s case, for decades. "open standards" are not what they seem, when you realize just who's writing the standard. This is basically like commanding water to lay on the side of the container, instead of allowing it to seek its own level. There is indeed motivation for those organizations, if you bother to study them in depth. Did you ever wonder why Mozilla went from the world's greatest upstart to the world's most cancerous example of bloatware? (the short answer is 'self-interest') It's easier for a megalithic organization to dictate the terms of the framework within which they will operate, than to make the effort to develop and evolve within that same framework. Don't make the mistake of innocently oversimplifying the situation. There's far more to the picture than you see. Also, interesting (back on-topic): https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/325 7d429b573baad48e401e01e4fda5a3ef02557f764 0d4c9becd274@%3Cdev.flex.apache.org%3E
>> [_] Anon 3267316 >># >shitty tech mmkay, so tell us what's a better replacement? (hint: none exists)
>> [_] Anon 3267317 >># >"open standards" are not what they seem, when you realize just who's writing the standard. I don't follow you. Open standards are exactly what they seem, by definition. I shouldn't matter who writes them. >There is indeed motivation for those organizations, if you bother to study them in depth. Could you post it? >Did you ever wonder why Mozilla went from the world's greatest upstart to the world's most cancerous example of bloatware? That's basically the normal life-cycle for upstart projects. A combination of rising standards and accumulated software cruft tend to lead to stagnation. >(the short answer is 'self-interest') Really now? They intentionally made a worse product out of "self-interest"? >Don't make the mistake of innocently oversimplifying the situation. There's far more to the picture than you see. Like what? You're just posting cryptic hints, when sources would actually be useful.
>> [_] Anon 3267318 >># it's like you didn't even read the op >flash users being this dumb
>> [_] Anon 3267319 >># It also has the ZIP thing people are talking about since about two weeks ago.
>> [_] Anon 3267323 >># Come on, man, use your reading comprehension, I stated the case explicitly. Try re-reading it. Let me try to re-state it for you in one sentence... >Big Bullies want the world to fit THEM, not the other way around. More clear? >There's far more to the picture than you see so, open your eyes a little wider and try to understand what you can see, if you can. Nothing cryptic about it.
>> [_] Anon 3267329 >># >Let me try to re-state it for you in one sentence... >Big Bullies want the world to fit THEM, not the other way around. What does that have to do with the push from Flash towards HTML5? >More clear? No, it's almost meaningless. >so, open your eyes a little wider and try to understand what you can see, if you can. Do you have any actual sources, or is it all just "believe me"?
>> [_] Anon 3267330 >># You're drunk. Go to bed.
>> [_] Anon 3267333 >># >4taba.net Ahh yes, the graveyard-chan.
>> [_] Anon 3267334 >># >># Okay, but they're breaking basic social contract. We deign to them, give them nice things, let them lead, because we expect them to take care of us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdQpLDm6 c0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReRcHdeU G9Y Freedoms relinquished for protection. Obedience given for prosperity. Leadership is a position of duty to those you lead. And much like your reminder that all have sinned and fallen short, and that none can justifiably cast the first stone, of mercy on others because we are no better, this too is a biblical concept. It shows up in Matthew 20, Luke 22, Mark 9, John 13, and both Paul's letters to the Corinthians, as well as in his instruction to husbands about their wives. Thus them throwing us and our needs under the bus to get more power and wealth for themselves is a direct affront to that arrangement. A leader which does not perform their duties should be removed from power. Monarchic revolution. Democatic revolution. Marxist revolution. It doesn't really matter, they all boil down to this basic principle, that a leader of people who neglects his people is no rightful leader, and to be forcibly replaced post-haste.
>> [_] Anon 3267335 >># I mean, the ice caps are predicted to be gone by 2020 and we probably should have been working on that since 2008 too. Welcome to human nature.
>> [_] Anon 3267336 why are we worrying about this????? Just because adobe wont be supporting flash anymore doesn't mean we wont be able to play and upload flash files on this page.
>> [_] Anon 3267339 >># >If I could post images, I'd post the "consolidation of the web" one. mind linking it then? I've yet to see it before
>> [_] Anon 3267341 >># >># >what facts, just get woke lol
>> [_] Anon 3267342 >># until browser's stop installing it.
>> [_] Anon 3267343 >># >browser's Wh'y d'o yo'u d'o thi's?
>> [_] Anon 3267344 >># Adobe might take down the standalone player
>> [_] Adobe Flash 3267352 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 3267353 >># You can never go back.
>> [_] Anon 3267362 >># Forcible removal is something that should be done, as far as is possible, within the pre-existing social structures that exist. Violent revolution very rarely makes things better for the people that undertake it. The USA at its founding was an exception-- they had huge untapped resources, lots of land. They had per-capita potential wealth that we can't even really imagine. In that situation, the rewards to leaders staying true to their word, and fulfilling their contract with the citizens of the new nation was greater than the rewards to becoming unutterably corrupt. People had great value then-- society needed them to go out and exploit those resources, bring them back so the rest of civilization could use them. If we had a revolution now, it would probably end with the new ruling party realizing that, since they won the war, they have carte blanche to loot civilization for every bit of value and power they can accrue to themselves. That's the best case-- assuming it's a libertarian or any other kind of sorta-conservative but not really right-wing party that sits on top at the end. It could also be so much worse. If an ideological, PoMo or far right group gets into power, we should probably just hunker down for 200-400 years of darkness (2,000-4,000 if Islam is a factor). See, we have so many identitarian groups, all of which think THEY should be the ones in charge, that it's THEIR turn. They're also profoundly resentful. We don't realize the terrible forces that exist within all of us. If given a chance to commit horrible acts without consequences, an individual can stop themselves. They can ask "What the hell am I doing?" or "What kind of a person am I?" But in a group, the temperamental tendencies are amplified, and the dissenting, conscientious voices of self-consciousness are diminished. It almost seems like something you could model mathematically-- the conscience of a group of people decreases by the square of the number of people in it.
>> [_] Anon 3267364 >># >># See, those videos deal with a group of people who consider themselves a single, unified tribe. Where there actually *is* a social contract that all the concerned actors recognize. That isn't the case in the west right now. Right now, many people (about 20% of white people, about half of everyone of other races, and like 90% of muslims) consider themselves a group of loosely confederated tribes, conquered and subdued by some over-arching authority ("whites" consider it the state, other groups consider the state and whites to be the same). If that authority fails, the percentage of people who currently submit to the social contract will probably default to tribal loyalty. At that point, it's just a mad dash for power, with each group trying whatever it can to get it. And once they do, we will probably see another holocaust. We all know about the minority of whites who think blacks are animals. It won't be so easy for them to deny that assessment when a group of blacks, upset at (what they've been told about) the state of society up to this point, ransacks their neighborhood. Most blacks (the ignorant ones... I'm not talking about your middle-class neighbor who you've known all your life) I've interacted with HATE hispanics. Much worse than they hate whites. And hispanics, for their part, come from some of the most racially aware and probably outright racist societies that have ever existed-- maybe outside of India at the ancient foundation of the caste system. If given a chance, there's a high probability (near certainty if you add Islam to the mix, as you'd have to in Europe) that whoever gets into power will just slaughter their competitors. That is the kind of animal we are when we're scared and the social structures that propped us up collapse. WE ARE ALL LOADED GUNS, MONSTERS. WE MUST BE VERY CAREFUL WITH OURSELVES. And that applies both individually and collectively.
>> [_] Engineered Toast 3267366 240 posters, huh good luck to all you glorious bastards who want to keep the flash community alive it's been real it's been fun
>> [_] Anon 3267371 >># If we're going to have a revolution, it will have to take the form of a gradual reformation of the institutions. Increase regulation of corporations, revoke corporate personhood (I'm VERY pro-capitalist and still I believe this is an absolute necessity). We definitely need some kind of a social safety net, so that we don't have this underclass who can be easily converted into a fifth-column by agitators. And we need to FUND PSYCHOLOGICAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION*. This is the number one thing we must do as a civilization if we don't want to end up like every other empire that has come before. Don't feed me that shit like: >psychology >science because even if it's impossible to understand, it's so necessary for the future of our species that we have to try. Because the stakes have never been higher. This may be our last shot. We can't morally (or really even practically) make people do things they don't want to do, but we can't just let ourselves do whatever we (think that we) want to either, slaves that we are to our base temperament. We need to form a new covenant with ourselves, and with our own basic nature. This entails that we learn absolutely everything we can about it. Otherwise, we'll just stay the puppets of internal forces beyond our reckoning, which we don't even want to know about because we don't want to admit we're not always, and probably rarely even are, under our own conscious control. *(NOT social psychology-- that's corrupted by power politics, and most of its proponents implicitly call for violent revolution, which isn't what we want for reasons I outlined above. A huge proportion of them are avowed marxists for crying out loud!)
>> [_] Anon 3267372 Started coming here faithfully only 2 years, but have been viewing flash animations since I was a wee one. Will miss this place, and you guys. On another note, how do I expand the flash window to check for the song? I forget.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267373 >># My hope is to do better than just keep it alive. I want to build a loose community of different sites, each of which is like Newgrounds was in the early 2000s. I want to build a framework that lets artists and programmers share awesome HTML5 presentations, the same way you'd be able to share an SWF, and furthermore I hope to make it easy for people to download and build upon each others' stuff. I think I'll make some kind of download prevention optional, and you can always minify/obfuscate your code, but people can still rip and reconstruct whatever you make no matter what. That's just the reality of the Internet. You can make it inconvenient to do so, but nothing the client can see is ever un-copiable.
>> [_] Engineered Toast 3267379 >># i hope you do, i've wanted to get into making animations (or just interactive porn animations, that works too) in flash for a while but it seems like i've waited too long. still, i hope you guys can make something that keeps the "simplicity" that flash has.
>> [_] Anon 3267382 >># html5 is not better that is a lie
>> [_] Anon 3267383 >># https://www.ncta.com/platform/wp-content /uploads/2015/03/150304_consumer-internet 1.jpg
>> [_] Anon 3267385 >># Most people with a high degree of political awareness hate that over-arching authority. They consider it to be a representative of the people who have manipulated it to exploit them. But what they don't realize is that that is the foundational structure of their reality. It's the thing that made it possible for a company to build a house that has plumbing and sewage and electricity. It's the thing that prevents them from being killed for a dollar, because it makes the consequences for murder dire enough that no rational person would do it (and make no mistake, rational people would murder if they could get away with it-- because IF you can get away with it, the only thing that prevents you is IRRATIONAL emotions!) Havesomegratitude.It'sanuttermiraclethat thingsworkaswellastheydo.Watchadocumentar yaboutthelionsofthesavannah,andaskyoursel fifthat'showyou'dwanttolive.Becauseifyouw ishforviolentrevolution,that'swhatit'llbe like.Nomorals--ifyouwantawoman,justkillas inglemother'schildrenandshe'llgethornyfor you(yes,humansarelikethis.Andthatisn'tast atementabouttheloyaltyofwomen--ifyoucould secureyoursurvivalbytakingitupthebutt,the re'sabetterthan50%chanceyouwould.Andyou'd begladfortherelieffromworryingaboutkeepin gyourselfalive).Ifyougetinjured,yourpride /tribeleavesyoubehind.Except,forthemetaph ortowork,you'dhavetogofurther,becausewear esomuchfartherawayfromournaturalstatethan justthat--Onthatsavannah,imaginethatthere 'sonelionpersquareyard,lionshitEVERYWHERE ,andnogazellestoeat.Andtrillionsofmosquit oes.Andmalaria.Andtrenchfootfromwalking in shit all the time.
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267387 >># Flash/Adobe Animate can output to HTML5, so it's still very worth learning. As I see it, the big problem with it is that it's hard to share anything you've made as self-contained files. It's meant for people who have their own site and/or a team of devs to integrate whatever they make into a page. I hope to make it to where you can just zip up a directory full of HTML/JS/SVGs and post it, regardless of what you used to make it. If you want people to remix what you make, that'd be hard with Animate, but I guess authors could include the source .fla file in the zip/h5f file if they wanted.
>> [_] Anon 3267388 >># >in certain geographies where unlicensed and outdated version of Flash Player are being distributed What does this even mean? That implies Adobe really fucked up, which wouldn't be surprising.
>> [_] Anon 3267389 >># This.
>> [_] Anon 3267390 >># So you know how you can download flash player and install it from Adobe's website? Well anyone could simply redistribute those files again. However it's against Adobe's terms of use to do so; they are saying they'll spend some extra effort to shut down those websites.
>> [_] Engineered Toast 3267392 >># oh, i see, thanks for clearing that up for me guess i will try to grab a copy of flash then
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267394 >># HTML5 can actually be better in a lot of ways. You can use WebGL (which isn't just for 3D-- it makes for buttery-smooth 2D animation as well. Google Maps uses it for example.) It's not slow-- In fact, I can't think of anything that Flash can do faster. You have much lower-level access to the system than you do with Flash, and it's much easier to debug JS, because the classes you use for E.G. animation aren't burdened down with years and years worth of cruft and a multiple inheritance nightmare. I don't know much about the Flash VM, but I think that's a big reason why it was often slow with a lot of sprites on screen at once. I'm able to do most things a LOT faster than Flash could. Your right-click isn't hijacked by default for a system menu. I think this is a BIG deal for action games and authoring tools, paintchats etc. You can write shaders that aren't crap. Two big reasons HTML5 hasn't taken off the way Flash did are A: all those features are locked behind a steep learning curve, and B: it's hard to share what you've made. We'll have to wait for frameworks, tutorials, and for authoring tools like Animate catch up on A, but I think B is a much bigger deal. Most people use social networks now where there's only 2-5 different kinds of thing you can post. Text, Images, Video. That's all people really think about because it's all that's presented as a possibility. There's no vibrant community for HTML5 stuff the way Newgrounds was able to catalyze Flash in the early days. That's what I'm aiming to change-- make sharing your HTML5 works as easy as sharing photos and videos.
>> [_] Anon 3267395 >># > There's no vibrant community for HTML5 stuff the way Newgrounds was able to catalyze Flash in the early days. That's what I'm aiming to change-- make sharing your HTML5 works as easy as sharing photos and videos. good luck
>> [_] FlashMoses 3267396 >># >good luck Thanks. I/we will need it.
>> [_] Anon 3267399 >># >https://www.ncta.com/platform/wp-conten t/uploads/2015/03/150304_consumer-interne t1.jpg This is the scariest thing I've seen in years. People are given every imaginable possibility, and they gravitate to one or two different things.
>> [_] Anon 3267401 >># It's too late to go back
>> [_] Anon 3267405 >># Wizard! Also Double Sticky!
>> [_] Anon 3267406 >># >># Is the thread going to get deleted soon?
>> [_] Anon 3267408 >># It'll be up until 2020
>> [_] Anon 3267411 >># >stealing joke from >># You should be ashamed both as mod and a human being.
>> [_] Anon 3267417 Flash has always been part of my life, if it left forever I'd be crushed
>> [_] Anon 3267418 I remember coming home from my night shift's and the first thing I would do every day is get on /f/. My favorite days were Sunday-Monday shift because that would be Miku Monday. I would just unwind in my room and watch "Pack Very Nice" and "Francium" and wait until the sun came up signalling me to go to bed. Time flies so fast. I feel like that was just months ago but it was years. 2020 is right around the corner in the scheme of things. It will be a sad day when my favorite board begins to lose the very creative platform it was based on. RIP
>> [_] Anon 3267420 >># But Miku Mondays are already dead. And by 2020 no one will even remember they existed. We should worry about 2hu Tuesdays though.
>> [_] Anon 3267421 >># It lost the creativity years ago, these days it's just youtube rips
>> [_] Anon 3267423 See you on the other side, friends.
>> [_] Anon 3267424 >># We got 3 years, we're going to make it.
>> [_] Anon 3267427 >># 2hu tuesdays will never die
>> [_] Anon 3267428 >># You need all the help you can get
>> [_] Anon 3267431 Well this is it, the final stretch. These next 3 years are going to kill me.
>> [_] Anon 3267432 RIP Homestar Runner
>> [_] Anon 3267433 >># Any of the movies are already on youtube
>> [_] Anon 3267434 >># not all of them are uploaded. I'll probably get to uploading the higher quality stuff from my DVDs
>> [_] Anon 3267435 >># I hope this succeeds
>> [_] Anon 3267436 >># Awesome, I think this thread is about to beat the record for most posts in an /f/ thread
>> [_] Anon 3267437 >># >743 >># Yeah, it's going to be beaten in a few minutes
>> [_] Anon 3267438 >># What is the record, by the way?
>> [_] Anon 3267439 >># According to https://archive.4plebs.org/f/thread/2804 686 it's 743, but I don't know if it's counting ghost repies or not.
>> [_] Anon 3267440 >># no matter what we just beat it. So that's that
>> [_] Anon 3267441 >># True
>> [_] Anon 3267444 I'm surprised at the posting quality of this thread. I've become so accustomed to other popular boards where the vast majority of discussion is written at a high school level. It's clear that most of us on /f/ are actually old enough to remember the time when flash was so significant to internet culture.
>> [_] Anon 3267446 >># /f/ is not one of the more popular boards so less retards come here.
>> [_] Anon 3267447 >># >High School Level that's being extremely generous
>> [_] Anon 3267448 >># Still better than writing at a 3rd grade level like most of the website
>> [_] Anon 3267449 >># >old enough to remember the time when flash was so significant to internet culture. for me personally it's not first hand, but archive.org and swfchan exist
>> [_] Anon 3267450 >># good point
>> [_] Anon 3267451 >># I only do it with s's at the end of word's.
>> [_] Anon 3267453 >># same
>> [_] Anon 3267454 >># >755 its official now!
>> [_] Anon 3267455 >># Nope, it's offically offical now
>> [_] Anon 3267456 >># >># it's officially officially official now
>> [_] Anon 3267458 >># Finally tonight i will have enough officiators to complete the official ship and return to official planet!
>> [_] Anon 3267459 dont know if ill miss this place. but i sure as hell had a good time. an early farewell to all.
>> [_] Anon 3267463 >># HOW DO WE STOP THE DESTRUCTION
>> [_] Anon 3267468 >># Holy shit! A flash I made almost 10 years ago finally gets reposted. I still have that horribly cut out yotsuba image on my hdd (chapter 21 page 12 according to the file name).
>> [_] Anon 3267473 >># Just watched the longer version of this video after responding to the shorter one. It's extremely good.
>> [_] Anon 3267482 >># Very funny, modfags. Are you happy with yourselves? You accomplished: (1) killing the status of the most epic thread ever by (2) manufacturing hyper-dramatic histrionics and general panic in our little community. It's not April 1st, so go find another way to entertain yourselves. LET ME REPEAT Adobe is ONLY removing FLASH PLAYER/PLUGIN SUPPORT. Actionscript driven rich-content is NOT going away, just the most convenient way we experience it is. You can all go back to shitposting Touhou and Van now. Carry on.
>> [_] Anon 3267485 >># This is the largest thread in /f/ history
>> [_] Anon 3267487 >># It is now, sadly. The real one was a legitimate fluke, and fun. This is just a concocted fuck show.
>> [_] Anon 3267490 >># >being angry about a thread on fucking /f/ Get a load of this guy
>> [_] Anon 3267491 It's over
>> [_] Anon 3267494 >># >Actionscript driven rich-content is NOT going away, just the most convenient way we experience it is. There's not really much of a reason to develop "actionscript driven rich-content" when nobody's ever gonna see it. It's not the tech itself that people are upset about, it's the way this particular tech fostered creativity.

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>> [_] Anon 3216709 whats this supposed to reference again? i know of the flash in a similar fashion but without yotsuba.

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>> [_] Anon 3080233 >># /r/ song
>> [_] Anon 3080236 >># get out newfag

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>> [_] Anon 2603114 >># Why is Yotsuba sad? Yotsuba should never be sad. Who made Yotsuba sad? I'll kill them.
>> [_] Anon 2603215 Why is the goddess of our relam sad? I cry everytiem.

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>> [_] Anon 1961140 music sos plox
>> [_] Anon 1961153 Loved the music, kinda sad thou
>> [_] Anon 1961246 >># http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mEnl2LJF Hw
>> [_] Anon 1961315 >># I love that baby. This song's on my phone's playlist, I love the intro, but then it starts to lose its appeal to me.

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[_] You made it happen... 1916414 /f/ I am disappoint... Actually I don't really give a damn. Have some crying Yostuba nonetheless. Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1916446 With my dick, yeah.
>> [_] Anon 1916511 >># NO.jpg
>> [_] Anon 1916593 I'll kill you...

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[_] Anon 1911523 Shame! Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1911526 yotsubacodeisnomore
>> [_] A 1911547 whats the name of this song?
>> [_] Anon 1911556 >># Autumn something flashbulb something... but don't bother cos the full version sucks anyway.
>> [_] Anon 1911559 newfags dont know about machinecodeisnomore special edition song on youtube
>> [_] Anon 1911732 >># I was sad when I found the full song This is literally the best part of the sing The rest is just .... meh

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>> [_] Anon 945844 wish i knew, bumpan
>> [_] Anon 945878 http://rs.4chan.org/?s=Autumn%20Insomnia %20Session The rest of the song isn't really the same though.

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>> [_] Anon 919174 are there anymore flash with music by flashbulb? there's one with the song i am the unbreakable shard of glass that I've been looking for.
>> [_] Anon 919183 /r/ing the name of the song.
>> [_] Anon 919184 >># autumn insomnia session
>> [_] The Warp !JpnUTrf.3g!!bDkfMyS4JZx 919400 ;_;

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[_] [L] Anon 901404 /r/ing song... Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 901519 I think the song is called Autumn Insomnia Session.
>> [_] Anon 901578 By The Flasbulb, I think
>> [_] Anon 901585 >># >># It's "Flashbulb", but yeah, that's right
>> [_] Anon 901654 >Pants_Man_Is_No_More.swf YEAAAAAAAH BABBBYY

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[_] [L] Anon 878145 /r/ing song
>> [_] Anon 878146 the flashbulb - autumn insomnia session http://rs130.rapidshare.com/files/725095 36/The_Flashbulb_-_Autumn_Insomnia_Sessio n.mp3
>> [_] Anon 878220 I believe Anon forgot to thank Anon for the fantastic reply with both artist, song and rs. It would seem i will have to do it for him/her. Thanks for delivering!
>> [_] Anon 878221 Thanks
>> [_] Kampfer 878226 Thanks indeed
>> [_] Anon 878258 >># I gotta thank you too as I was actually going to ask the same thing. Thanks a bunch.
>> [_] Anon 878267 >># the best of the "..is no more" .swf's posted here by far.