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[_] [L] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)18:56 No.1623458
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:05 No.1623464
Care to share some research on how Zeitgeist is hypocritical?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:09 No.1623467
Really?
Zeitgeist is against money, possesions ans are for freedom(against Government)
Anonymous against Government
They are saying their ideas....
WTF IS WRONG WITH THEM!?
missinformation?
More like not reading from the side of that who made this flash....
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:11 No.1623470
So hows the weather in Langley OP?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:13 No.1623474
I like my possessions and my money. Fuck Zeitgeist.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:14 No.1623475
As lulzy as this is, it's obviously based on the Message to $cientology.
Though it wouldn't surprise me if Zeitgeist and Venus Project where as much a fraud as the
Scienos.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:14 No.1623476
>>1623474
Thats what they want you to like. Cheap possessions made to break after a year and fiat money
thats only worth something untill they decide its not anymore.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:15 No.1623477
As much as I am for Anonymous movements, at least get a spellcheck or some kind of quality check
in there. You lose a lot of momentum when there are spelling and grammatical errors throughout
your message.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:19 No.1623480
This flash is retarded, but Zeitgeist isn't much better. It would fail for the same reasons
communism does. Humans are greedy by nature.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:19 No.1623482
>>1623476
>He thinks I buy cheap shit that breaks easily.
>laughingwhores.jpg
It's called quality buddy. It's out there if you look for it, stop doing all your shopping at
Wal-Mart.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:21 No.1623483
>>1623458
Spreading misinformation.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:21 No.1623484
>>1623482
>he thinks anyone make things to last anymore
what a sucker
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:25 No.1623488
>>1623484
>He thinks people don't
Seriously? Have you seen what some people get up to in their garages?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:27 No.1623491
>>1623488
This, go check out Etsy or parts of Ebay, there's still some master artisans out there that make
good shit.
Like an earlier anon said, stop going to Wal-mart, it'll open up your world so much.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:27 No.1623492
>>1623488
Yes. the only way to get something with out planned obsolescence is to make it yourself
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:29 No.1623494
What is Zeitgeist? I'd like a tl;dr.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:29 No.1623495
>>1623488
>>1623491
learn2context
we are talking about 'them'.
'they' control the major corporations, they do not control some guy in his garage (yet)
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:29 No.1623496
>>1623488
Here is some un-written rules of economy my brother:
-The cheaper it is , the shittier it is
-It needs to break alot of times so people will buy it multiple times
-Better price doesn't always mean better quality
If you want the best quality, do it yourself
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:30 No.1623497
>>1623492
Or *buy* it from someone who produces quality work.
It's the entire basis of bartering, trade and economy. We can't all be master artisans in every
field, I may be awesome at making clocks, but suck at making pottery and dishes, so guess what? I
gotta buy some from someone who *is* awesome at making those things.
By that point, we're gonna be heading towards a bartering system of some sort anyway.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:31 No.1623499
>>1623496
>Implying I can't buy from a garage-maker
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:33 No.1623500
>>1623497
>>1623497
>implying anyone will pay for overpriced work and materials
>implying salesman will sell you 100% pure quality shit
I believe no one by myself
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:33 No.1623501
I love how zeitgeisters accuse other people of being "sheep" when all they're doing themselves is
just going off of hearsay.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:34 No.1623502
>>1623500
If you buy local or from independent crafters there's no salesman to deal with at all, you're
buying straight from the creator.
Jesus are you trying to be this thick-headed?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:34 No.1623503
WE R ANUNMEES WE R LEGION
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:35 No.1623504
...olling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls
trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls
trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trol....
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:35 No.1623505
>>1623500
>Implying all makers and artisans are dishonest swindlers
What a pathetic worldview you live in, where everyone is out to get you...
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:36 No.1623506
>>1623497
So tell me, where do i go to get an air conditioning unit thats not designed to need regular
service?
Where do i get a car that will last a hundred years?
Who builds, in their garage, a house not made out of plywood and drywall?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:36 No.1623507
>>1623502
>>1623502
>creator will waist their time and effort and precious material for some douchebag....
>creator will use the cheapest material to make shit you want
what sounds realistic....
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:36 No.1623509
What the fuck is Zeitgeist?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:37 No.1623511
Zeitgeist is Bullshit
Anon is Bullshit
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:37 No.1623512
>>1623505
Everybody has cheated, lied, or created hurt in this world one way or another and you can not
negate this....
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:37 No.1623513
As much as I hate Anonymous it's nice to see Zeitgeist getting called out on their shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:38 No.1623514
>>1623506
A car is a very complex system of thousands of moving parts that no matter how well it's
designed, will inevitably wear down and require maintenance. There's no way around it. A car that
lasts a hundred years is impossible. Ask any engineer or mechanic.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:40 No.1623517
>>1623514
That's reasonable, now watch someone call bullshit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:40 No.1623518
>>1623514
>>1623514
Just look at Cubans driving their cars for what.... 60 years or so?
Yeah, they fix them from time to time, material wears out....
But they are still running....
google it
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:40 No.1623519
>>1623507
The key here is not to be a douchebag when you ask for their services. It's easy enough to offer
a fair compensation for their efforts. If you weren't such a douchebag yourself maybe you'd be
aware of that already.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:42 No.1623520
What is Zeitgeist?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:42 No.1623522
>>1623506
>So tell me, where do i go to get an air conditioning unit thats not designed to need regular
service?
That's what you said. You asked for parts that required no regular maintenance.
>>1623518
>Just look at Cubans driving their cars for what.... 60 years or so?
Yeah, they fix them from time to time, material wears out....
Here you admit that I am right. No complex system can continue to function without regular
check-ups and tuning.
Also, 60 years is a far cry from a Century my friend.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:43 No.1623523
Seriously though, are you people smashing your iPods against rocks or pouring sugar in your gas
tanks because whatever the fuck I buy, I make it last. I fucking squeeze as much fun/energy/use
out of my shit until I can no longer use for any discernible purpose. And if I have money to
replace it, I will, because I have the money to do so and nobody is going to tell me I can't
because I'm giving my money to the "evil" that is corporations and companies.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:43 No.1623524
>>1623519
In creators eyes, he can fuck you as hard as he wants because you know JACK SHIT what happens
behind creators doors...
he can make your table (example) FROM cheapest chinese materials and charge 10x its original
value to make bigger profit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:44 No.1623525
>>1623483
I put this flash here, it's an example of what critics claim about The Zeitgeist Movement. Of
course check for yourself what the zeitgeist movement says about itself.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:45 No.1623527
>>1623523
This. I'd bet anything that these faggots whining about shit-quality products are the same morons
that don't keep their CDs in cases and never change the oil in their cars.
Maybe if you took care of your shit it would last longer.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:46 No.1623530
>>1623514
Nope, you're just brainwashed.
Machines can be made to last pretty much forever, they build in stress points so there will be
faults.
OF course exacting precision engineered stuff has very low tolerances and needs constant
attention and care, but there is no need for that sort of thing.
Look at lightbulbs as another example. Modern lightbulbs are DESIGNED to burn out.
If you like in america get a european lightbulb, they will last decades in american sockets
because they are designed for higher voltage.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:46 No.1623531
>>1623520
A miserable pile of secrets... I kid, it's really just a vague idea about how the future should
be that sounds good enough in theory to attract a bunch of armchair intellectuals. In practice
however it's total bullshit.
tl:dr, Arguing is fun!
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:47 No.1623532
>>1623524
If he does that though, and the table breaks in a week, then it becomes VERY obvious that I was
cheated, and I will never buy from him again, and I will advise others to avoid his crafts as
well.
Therefore, if he screws me over, he loses a lot more money in the long run. It's called Business
Ethics. They teach it in college. You know, that thing you never went to.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:47 No.1623533
>>1623527
>>1623527
Look everyone, a "handy-man"
HE CAN CHANGE THE OIL!
Girls: uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, come here sexy, enginner-machine-working man
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:48 No.1623534
>>1623530
Try connecting 300 individual pieces of metal together and see if you don't get any structural
weak points. I fucking dare you.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:49 No.1623535
>>1623531
Thanks bro. I lack the intellectual power to get caught up in these groups.
I don't know if its a disadvantage or a privileged.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:49 No.1623536
>>1623533
>tl;dr: Missing the point.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:50 No.1623537
>>1623532
>>1623532
>he loses a lot more money in the long run
He made a small business, scammed thousands of people in small time, and his face was erased from
planet(no one seen him again)
....
fucked is the word right?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:50 No.1623538
>>1623534
Its not that all parts have to be equally tough, its that the entire thing can be made out of
robust enough parts that the stresses are not significant enough to damage it under normal use.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:51 No.1623539
>>1623533
Are you trying to be a douchebag? Unbelievably, yes, people DO maintain and tune things such as
cars in order to keep them running because many people weren't born with a silver spoon up their
ass and can't afford to buy a new luxury sedan every time our old cars break down.
Plus, it's not that hard to repair a car, but you probably can't be assed to do some manual labor
or even bring it to a repair shop.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:52 No.1623540
>>1623537
That logic depends on whether or not he can successfully disappear before his reputation is
ruined or before dissatisfied customers can demand their payments back.
Take a look over at /cgl/, shitty dress makers that try to play that game get fucked over all the
time.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:52 No.1623542
>>1623534
>>1623534
You know that 250+ of those pieces are just for security of the driver and have NO job into the
main MECHANICS or vehicle(moving parts)....yeah....
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:54 No.1623543
>>1623542
So you would much rather drive a screaming metal death trap than a machine that is a thousand
times safer but suffers breakdowns at a normal rate? Okay. Yep. Sure.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:56 No.1623545
>>1623539
>>1623539
>implying no one can change oil in the car...
son, I was thought how to:
-Change tires
-Clean all over the house
- Disassemble my computer
- Fix my computer
- Clean and vax my shoes
- many things I can't even remember
UP TO THE AGE OF 13
and today kids cant even wipe their asses good so they blame the paper
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:57 No.1623546
>>1623543
>>1623543
I am just saying that you don't "NEED" those parts to drive a car
But you "WANT" them
just, super,sayan
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)19:59 No.1623547
>>1623545
And that's my point, sir. Please don't make yourself up to be some sort of super-genius because
I'm more than sure that a good amount of people know how to do these fairly simple things, though
you are right about the newer generation.
Realistically though, BECAUSE these things are so simple and necessary skills in life that it
should be second-hand and nobody should complain about others doing these things.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:00 No.1623548
>>1623530
I can't argue for light-bulbs, they're shit.
But they aren't machines.
As an engineer, saying that stress point can be completely avoided is shit. They happen. And the
more moving parts you have in a machine, the more thing there are to wear down. YOU CAN NEVER GET
GET RID OF FRICTION!
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:02 No.1623550
>>1623547
>>1623547
>complain about others doing these things
*few posts earlier*
>I'd bet anything that these faggots whining about shit-quality products are the same morons that
don't keep their CDs in cases and never change the oil in their cars
yep, really smart
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:02 No.1623551
>>1623545
That's not what he was saying at all you fuckwit.
Let me sum it up for you.
Zeitfags are saying shit is just made to be broken and bought again.
Sensible people are saying that shit lasts just fine as long as you know how to take care of it.
Example used was cars, zeitfags seem to think that cars should run indefinitely with no
maintenance whatsoever.
Everybody who wasn't born in a god-damn ivory tower knows that you have to take care of machines
or else they break down.
That's just how it's been ever since machines became more complex than a lever and a couple
pulleys.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:04 No.1623552
>>1623550
Missing the point, again.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:04 No.1623553
>>1623546
That argument is flawed, since it's less of a "want" and really, more of a "necessity". A "want"
is something I don't inherently need but can still live without while a "need" or "necessity" is
something that I must have in order to perform any function, such as "living" or in this case,
driving.
Yes, I could drive a car without absolutely zero safety measures. Would any reasonable person
with an ounce of intelligence give in and strap themselves into a machine with a high possibility
of death? Maybe if you're an astronaut or nihilist.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:04 No.1623554
>>1623548
>GET GET
>HURR DURR
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:05 No.1623555
>>1623548
>>1623548
Ok, lets talk about light bulbs then?
They are simple , right?
You have wire, you have the bulbe(glass) and you hook it up...
preety simple right?
But many people don't know that there is gas in this bulb to prevent from wire to corroding(or
put in vacume)
In modern versions of light bulbs that is mixed with air
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:06 No.1623556
>>1623548
This. It's motherfucking physics people.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:06 No.1623557
>>1623550
You're misinterpreting that man.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:07 No.1623558
>>1623555
I just said they're shit...
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:07 No.1623559
>>1623554
>I have no legitimate argument to counter with, so I'll nitpick at a typographical error
FTFY
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)20:10 No.1623562
I have no valid argument and I must continue my flawed theories about how nothing should ever
break down because things can be made perfectly without breaking down due to regular wear,
corrosion, heat, cold, or other earthly environmental factors.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)21:04 No.1623586
lol what a waste of time. I wish the real anonymous would come back.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)21:21 No.1623590
>>1623586
Pro tip; anon never left or changed, this is all it ever has been.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)21:36 No.1623602
> 71 replies
> 0 informative messages
> 100% noise, 0% signal
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)21:47 No.1623610
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>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)22:05 No.1623619
wtf. Are you guys serious?
Do you not realize we started with "artisan" crafts and moved onto assembly-line made goods for
valid reasons? Does this actually need to be explained, or are you too deep in your narrow-minded
fantasy-economy to step back into reality?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)22:18 No.1623625
Obvious troll; move along now folks.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)22:19 No.1623626
>>1623619
I suppose the problem comes from the fact that now that everything is much cheaper (and thus not
as reliable) we demand products that are of much higher quality that we CAN buy now that we're
rolling in dough. Problem is, if we go back we'll just start the industrial revolution all over
again.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)22:25 No.1623630
Since when did it become cool to be a tree-hugging hippy again?
The ex-Communist kike who started the Venus/Zietgeist shit is just cashing in on the 'green' pop
culture, same as Al Gore.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)22:53 No.1623653
Not a single one of us, can speak for all of us.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)22:56 No.1623655
Hey guiz wats goin' on in thi-THE FUCK KIND OF HISSYFIT DID I STUMBLE INTO?!
>> [_] Mr. Kidnapper 02/21/12(Tue)22:59 No.1623658
>>1623653
They do it anyways.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:04 No.1623664
>>1623655
Hi, you must be new here, it's a Zeitgeist thread. Here, crackpots try to defend their flimsy,
paranoid worldviews against common sense. It happens just about every week.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:12 No.1623669
>>1623664
Common sense tells me that sense is anything but common.
SHUT UP, my sleepy pills are starting to kick in, so I'm fuzzy,
and unfit for further debate. Goodnight random internet friends,
lets make another one tomorrow.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:19 No.1623670
>>1623669
The phrase "common sense" doesn't mean what you think it means.
It means that any idiot would be able to tell you that zeitgeisters are full of shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:23 No.1623673
Just some conservafag pretending to be Anon
>NYPA, jingoist cunt
Nothing to see here folks, move along
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:27 No.1623676
>>1623551
>Has never heard of planned obsolescence
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:29 No.1623677
Zeitgeist is an amazingly good idea, just like communism. now if humans weren't a species made of
shit, perusing constant dickery, these ideas would work.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:30 No.1623679
So let me get this straight, if they sold light sources that didn't burn out at regular intervals
to zeitfags they'd be happy? LED diodes anyone?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/22/samsung-introduces-advanced-led-light-bulbs-preps
-for-zombie-ap/
Samsung will even sell to zeitfags. Right. Problem solved, now what?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:38 No.1623681
>>1623679
Selling lightbulbs to people will make them happy? You're more of a dope than I thought.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:41 No.1623682
>>1623670
Still high but if any old bloke off the the street can call the
zeitgeist's rubbish. Then knowledge must be common.
knowledge is not common , so why am i still typing bed now
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:41 No.1623684
>>1623681
I don't know how I could be more of one when 1) I haven't posted in this thread before 2) You
don't know who I am.
Also, the lightbulb's planned obsolescence was an arguing point. Samsung and Phillips are both
making lightbulbs that can last for 3-4 decades. What I've done is addressed a complaint given
(lightbulbs are made to burn out so you have to buy more) and have given a solution.
Which means that that problem is solved.
tl;dr - Corporations have answered your complaint, do you have any others?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:45 No.1623687
>>1623682
What makes you say knowledge is not common?
Can you prove that?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:47 No.1623688
>>1623684
>Lightbulbs
>Problem Solved
Really, try harder. Honestly, try observing more objects around you than just lightbulbs.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:48 No.1623689
>>1623676
>Doesn't know how to take care of his shit.
Tell me, you're the type that leaves his CD's on the floor and tosses his Xbawks controllers
around, then wonders why his CD's won't play and his controllers don't work, aren't you?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:49 No.1623691
>>1623689
>Fail troll
Try harder
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:49 No.1623693
>>1623688
Well we've already addressed cars, and as you so duly noticed, he solved your lightbulb problem.
Any other complaints we can take care of for you Mr. Zeitfag?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:50 No.1623694
>>1623693
>mentioned cars in passing
No you didn't
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:52 No.1623695
Holy shit, posting in soon-to-be 100 reply /f/ thread.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:52 No.1623696
>>1623694
Try reading the thread dipshit.
>>1623506
>>1623514
>>1623517
>>1623518
>>1623522
>>1623539
>>1623548
>>1623553
Half this damn thread was about cars.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:52 No.1623697
>>1623688
Give me another example of something of planned obsolescence. I can't do your work for you. The
only things brought up that I've seen here are: Lightbulbs, air conditioners, vehicles.
The latter two involve multiple moving parts and freon. I think that the issue with them has been
addressed. I am not the one who claims that stuff is made to be broken. That'd be you, sir.
The burden of proof falls on your shoulders when you make a positive claim.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:54 No.1623698
>>1623696
Hmm, and even having read that, I'm telling you that you haven't even touched on the subject.
Wonder why?
Try using 1% more of your brain.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:55 No.1623699
>>1623698
If I haven't touched on 1% then provide the other 99. It is not my job to make your case.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:55 No.1623701
>>1623698
0/10 Troll harder
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:55 No.1623702
>>1623697
I made no claim. You made the claim when you said you'd solved the problem
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:56 No.1623703
>>1623701
Not trolling. Really, think.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:56 No.1623704
>>1623702
I said if light bulbs are the problem, then the problem is solved. Try reading what I said.
If they aren't the problem -which is what you are now implying- then quit attempting to look more
intelligent by being aloof. Make your case.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:56 No.1623705
>>1623698
We covered pretty much the entire reason why cars break down and require maintenance, and why
it's a perfectly normal occurance with no sinister motives behind it. If there's something we
missed, please enlighten us.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:58 No.1623708
>>1623705
REPLACEMENT PARTS
Do I really have to spell it out for you morons?
It's not the fact of life that everything breaks down, it's the availability of parts after a
measly 5 years.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/21/12(Tue)23:59 No.1623711
>>1623694
>>1623698
>>1623703
>Anons make a solid case
>Deny they ever said anything at all
Is this what logic looks like to you zeitgeist faggots? No wonder all you fucking hippies are so
fucked up.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:00 No.1623714
>>1623711
>believes they made a solid case
>tries to troll
facepalm.jpg
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:03 No.1623719
>>1623708
Well fucking duh, replacement parts exist. Sometimes shit breaks or wears down due to perfectly
normal use and there's no way to fix it back to the point where it functions safely or at full
capacity again. Again, nothing sinister, just engineering and pragmatism. If a casing splits,
it's not like you can just super-glue the motherfucker back together and everything is all great
again.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:03 No.1623720
Welp, threads dead, and noones learning anything new
0/10, glad to troll
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:04 No.1623721
>>1623714
>still thinks he's right
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>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:05 No.1623722
>>1623719
No, you seemed to have missed the point. After a short period of time, the parts are no longer
available. And that goes for just about everything you use on a regular basis.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:06 No.1623723
>>1623708
You're a fucking moron if you think that having replacement parts available for machines as
complex as automobiles is a superfluous, money-making scam.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:07 No.1623724
>>1623723
Who said that? I didn't. Try reading.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:07 No.1623726
>>1623722
>Implying you can't still find parts after the manufacturer stops making them.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:07 No.1623727
>>1623708
So, you're upset that you can't find a part for something after five years? Vehicle manufacturers
provide parts up to about 10-20 years depending on the model. I have done more than change my
oil. The first time I ever did any real work was back in 05. I had to replace the bearings on my
92 Capri. Which if you know anything about wheel bearings going out it is both hazardous and an
ass ache to work on. But there are plenty of refurb, third party, and official manufacturers that
sell parts long past a five year mark.
Nevermind that there are places like Hedal's, O'Reilly's, and other that can get you parts for
equipment going back to the 50s and 60s.
The reason most manufacturers don't make new parts after the 10 year mark is due to the fact that
people buy new cars because they are designed to be safer, or look cooler. I don't care.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:08 No.1623728
>>1623726
>Exactly what I'm implying
Not only that, but in more complex machines, the newer software does not support older hardware,
or vice versa.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:09 No.1623729
I for one would like somebody to take down this stupid ass zeitgeist thing. I'm all for free
speech and the spreading of ideas, but i don't like the spreading of bat-shit crazy ideas that
confuse my stoner friends.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:09 No.1623730
>>1623727
But this notion that you can't find the parts for something that is six years old is silly. Walk
into an autostore, the worst that can happen is you have to wait 2-3 days while they get the part
sent from another town because they haven't had the need to carry a part for your vehicle.
And if you're suggesting that you can't find a part for an air conditioner, washer, dryer, etc.
after five years, then how do A/C repairmen stay in business? How does the repair industry
function at all if they can't fix what you have due to lack of parts?
You're shouting things, and not making a concise point (so you can move the goalposts) without
making sense.
I think you should crack open a copy of JCWhitney sometime: http://www.jcwhitney.com/
Or check some HVAC catalogs.
No company in these categories could keep above water if their equipment wasn't repairable in
such a short period of time.
Note: This also applies to washers, dryers, water heaters, fridges, and ovens.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:10 No.1623732
anonymous is such a joke. One person makes a claim and assumes that everyone else in this
"anonymous" will just agree with him. You are a legion of faggots who will just end up making
civil war.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:11 No.1623734
>>1623730
Alright, so the 5 year was a more general estimate meant not just for cars but most devices
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:15 No.1623737
>>1623728
That's because programming becomes more and more complex as time goes on. A program designed to
work with Windows 95 isn't going to work in 7 because 7 has a lot more shit to work with. It's
like taking a neanderthal and expecting him to know how hunting and fishing licenses work. Yeah,
he's still hunting and fishing, but nowadays we have a system that regulates that activity that
didn't exist back then. Besides, that's not even true for all programs.
Starcraft (the first one) still fucking works on XP and Vista.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:16 No.1623739
>>1623734
Oh hi there backpedaling.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:16 No.1623740
>>1623737
And IE9 doesn't work on XP, your point?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:17 No.1623741
>>1623732
>I'm so edgy and cool because I don't follow crowds man. I play by my own rules and nobody else's.
FTFY
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:18 No.1623742
>>1623740
Nobody should use IE anyway. Your argument is invalid.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:19 No.1623745
>>1623742
Argument is not invalid because Microsoft, the makers of XP, are also the makers of Internet
Explorer. Despite that their browser is crappy, it should make it ever so obvious that a company
able to give support, does not, even though other advanced browsers can.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:20 No.1623747
>>1623734
Well what other devices? I can still get repair parts for computers going back to the 90s. If
people didn't want all their web applications to have glitter and glamour you'd see the hardware
industry side slow way the fuck down. And it has in some areas. Example: Screen resolutions.
We've had 1920x1080 available for about a decade or so now. There's no reason why higher
resolutions are not manufactured except for the fact that people aren't demanding larger
resolutions. I suspect this is mostly due to movies, but that's just conjecture.
Here's a place I love to start looking for computer parts: http://www.pricewatch.com
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:21 No.1623748
>>1623741
i guess i am, thanks for implying it.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:21 No.1623750
>>1623740
Yeah, that kinda is my point.
It's like trying to use a philip's head screwdriver to screw in a flathead screw. Use the right
tools for the right job.
You don't use a Powerpoint client designed for Windows '98 on a machine that runs 7, it's like
the screws, it's just not going to happen.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:22 No.1623751
>>1623748
faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:23 No.1623752
>>1623747
If you're upset that your portable whatever device can't last past the five year mark (an actual
true statement), that is merely due to the limitations of chemistry and lithium. Not a planned
design fault. Just chemistry. Of course, you can always buy a kit and a new battery (even better
batteries), and not have to upgrade.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:24 No.1623753
>>1623752
If it's the software side, well that comes down to two things. 1) Consumers demanding more from
their software. 2) A need for money by the corporation.
If you use linux like I do, you'd see that this whole "planned obsolescence" is not necessary. It
all depends on what you demand your software to do. If you want the shiniest shit, you go with a
distro like ubuntu and keep polishing that turd. If you want something rock stable and don't give
a fuck, you get a more stable distro like slack.
So that part of the equation is down to the demands of the customers. I don't know if MS or Apple
plan obsolescence, but even if they did, it'd only be a reaction to what the customers demand.
Which is mostly shinier shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:24 No.1623754
>>1623751
u mad
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:24 No.1623755
>>1623745
So you're trying to say that you don't think it makes sense that you need to update an
application program whenever the OS is updated?
Seriously? You're getting dangerously close to full retard buddy.
>> [_] Mr. Kidnapper 02/22/12(Wed)00:26 No.1623756
>>1623740
IE10 doesn't work on Windows 7. So? Still works on Windows 8 like a dream.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:27 No.1623757
>>1623752
Well, it's kind of disconcerting to discover that different rechargeable batteries have different
charging habits. You would expect the manufacturer of the device (even if not the battery) would
add a disclaimer on how to better extend the battery life.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:27 No.1623758
>>1623754
No, just wondering how such a raging "I'm cool because I'm noncomformist" faggot got in here.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:28 No.1623759
>>1623755
...what?
Try reading again before your Down's Syndrome shows
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:30 No.1623760
>>1623758
your the one who implied it, not me.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:30 No.1623762
>>1623745
http://msdn.microsoft.com
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/help
Also, it is likely you didn't actually pay for the software. If it came with your computer, the
manufacturer subsidized the cost of the software and paid MS (at a substantially less cost) for
your OEM setup.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:30 No.1623763
>>1623757
Which is part of the reason why phones seem to die so often. The batteries aren't being charged
ideally, but who is supposed to know that offhand?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:31 No.1623764
>>1623759
My reading is fine, you're bitching about old programs not being compatible with newer Operating
Systems.
Someone's a technological illiterate. And it's not me.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:31 No.1623765
>>1623762
http://www.google.com/search?q=ie9+xp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:o
fficial&client=firefox-a
>hurrrr
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:32 No.1623766
>>1623757
You should read your manuals sometime. Most now address the best way to maximize your battery
life. What I meant by better batteries though, are ones with a higher charge that last longer. :)
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:33 No.1623767
>>1623760
Please learn the meaning of the word "imply" as opposed to "infer".
I inferred that you were a raging faggot only because your asinine post went so far to imply it.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:34 No.1623768
>>1623766
Well, it's been clear for me now, but /most/ people still don't know and end up buying battery
replacements unnecessarily.
>> [_] Mr. Kidnapper 02/22/12(Wed)00:35 No.1623769
My two batteries for my Chinese bootleg of a Japanese phone are expected to last two or three
years each. The manual says you're only supposed to charge them to 50% the first three or so
times to maximize battery life. Ha. Even the Chinese tell you. Duet D698 btw.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:35 No.1623770
>>1623768
And, when it comes down to it, who in their right minds reads all the T&C/ToS, Manuals, and
Warranties (until a problem comes along)
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:36 No.1623771
>>1623765
>uses firefox
>keeps it in the google result
I lol'd.
But to answer your question, first link in the search query says:
WHY DOESNT IE9 WORK ON XP ?
Because Internet Explorer 9 uses Direct2D for hardware acceleration which is unavailable in
Windows XP. If you want to use a modern browser, use a modern operating system.
----
Sorry, It won't happen. Do you have a few million to finance the R&D?
It is not XP per se... but the next generation of CPU's and internet connections that are needed
(hardware and driver improvements) that the next generation of IE can take advantage of.
I have seen some pretty good deals on Win7 bundles with new PC's/laptops... It may be time to
upgrade your machine to the next generation. XP is nealy 10 years old.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:37 No.1623772
>>1623771
Which could actually be fixed with a few registry tweaks, but oddly enough, still doesn't
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:38 No.1623773
>>1623770
Well, a person who cares about their products would at least glance over the manual. But if you
take what you say at face value, then the problem isn't the manufacturers. It'd be the problem of
people being too lazy to take care of their shit. Which is kinda anti-zeit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:38 No.1623774
>>1623767
nah imply works just fine, plus there is nothing conforming about anonymous.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:40 No.1623775
>>1623772
If it's easy, why not release a patch? You could probably even make money off of donations. I
don't use windows/mac, so I don't know nor have interest.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/22/12(Wed)00:41 No.1623778
>>1623774
Sure there is. All furries and ponyfags are slaughtered, no exceptions.
