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>> [_] Anon 969131 let's get some mother fucking comments going
>> [_] Anon 969132 hes like white obama
>> [_] Anon 969134 good ideas, just a little too out there.
>> [_] Anon 969146 Well green power is a reality, it's just not used mainly I think because there is no profit gained from it. The last thing oil companies want is for the venus project to use these sorts of energy. You can't profit from power that's abundant. The only way for this power to be used is for people to stop using money.
>> [_] Anon 969160 yea its all true.... the world isnt overpopulated 6 billion is nothing, 80% of that lives at the shoreline.... we have all the resourses to feed and house everyone in hundreds of different ways... its our shit society and monetary system that is stopping it
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969163 Reading this thread is like reading youtube comments. Fucking stupid.
>> [_] Anon 969164 the zeitgeist movement plans to stop this but I can't figure out how. I read their guide and it says "we will begin the next phase, which will put pressure on all nations simultaneously to begin moving out of the monetary structure." I dunno what it means by put pressure on... hopefully non-violent because fighting only breeds more fighting!
>> [_] Anon 969170 >># yep big money is made off things that are rare and scarce not things that are common
>> [_] Anon 969172 >># yea reading your comment is like youtube for me as well... in that you instantly connect with the people you hate most
>> [_] Anon 969173 I always thought the Venus Project was fucked up. Now I know why.
>> [_] Anon 969176 >># yea so fucked up... the idea that everyone on the planet can have good food clean water and a roof over their head
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969180 >># I'm glad to know that tin-foil hat wearing crazies hate me. It means I'm still sane.
>> [_] Anon 969182 >># the reason why people suck
>> [_] Anon 969184 im not a conspiracy nut if thats what ur implying, nor do i blame america for anything so back off redneck
>> [_] Anon 969185 >># go back to your hot pockets and G4 tv
>> [_] Anon 969187 We have the technology for a heaven on earth, but we're too selfish to help make it.... =d
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969190 >># lol. Just wow. In one breath I'm a redneck... >># And now I'm a "nerd basement dweller." I take it all back. /f/ is great. You guys are just wonderful.
>> [_] Anon 969191 >># I'm going to quote you somewhere mother fucker. In return, here's one for you "It's easier to copy than to think - hence fashion. Besides, a community of originals is not a community." -William Stevens
>> [_] Anon 969193 >># im just sayin that cause it says guns in your name and scince you are so against this concept, im assuming you are a right wing "realist" who thinks that we need to keep kicking dirt on the people at the bottom and holding guns to their head
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969194 >># >># >># >># ITT: Animal Farm had too many words so we didn't read it.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969195 >># >im just sayin that cause it says guns in your name I love you. Please, keep talking. I'm not being sarcastic. I really think you should pursue a career in comedy.
>> [_] Anon 969196 >># <me and yes some of what this guy (the guy in the flash) said is bs. competition is one of the basic laws of nature
>> [_] Anon 969197 >># do not feed the troll
>> [_] Anon 969199 >># It's okay, I can tell you're not being sarcastic by the sincerity in your text.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969200 >># I'm being called a troll now too. Fucking hilarious.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969201 >># I'm actually not being sarcastic. I think he's being really funny. If he's not being funny intentionally though, I fear he may have a few too many extra chromosomes though.
>> [_] Anon 969202 >># well you did just come in and start shittin all over everything in a non-constructive way... but im not surprised this is 4chan after all
>> [_] Anon 969204 Actually, I think I see the inherently fatally flaw to this guys utopian dream after all: people.
>> [_] Anon 969205 >># and yes the "gun in name" part was sorta a joke (ur name probally refers 2 fallout3) but my "right winger" senses start tingling whenever i see ppl who are opposed to world peace (or at least somthing resembling it)
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969206 >># The op wanted comments. And I'm giving them. Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't make me a troll. Many of the opinions here sound like those of young teenagers with as much real world experience as being "oppressed" by their parents. People who believe in cartoonish dichotomies of good and evil, mustache twirling villains and scheming antagonists. That's simply not how it works in the real world. I'm shitting over everyone's comments because they're ill-informed, unrealistic and incredibly ignorant.
>> [_] Anon 969207 NAMEFAG GO HOME
>> [_] Anon 969208 >># not to mention you have nothing better to spend your life on than trolling /f. me thinks you you'd fit in with /b
>> [_] Anon 969209 >># I agree with competition in sport etc, but as society's structure when there is enough for all is selfish.
>> [_] Anon 969210 >># You know, you're SO that guy a thousand years ago that was bitching to this tribe about not following the herds of animals around; that instead sitting around growing plants was going to be a HUGE fucking waste of time not to mention going against the assumed nature of his own kind.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969211 >># Read Animal Farm. Great book. >># You think? The "OBLIVION WITH GUNS" name with "pipboy" as the tripcode MIGHT be related to fallout3? It's tongue-in-cheek mocking of people who whined about how fallout3 was too much like oblivion with guns. To which I simply laugh and say, "sounds great to me." World peace would be great. But let me give you some reference: >"Some people are more equal than others." This is the pivotal plot point of animal farm where everything crumbles around the, "everyone gets an equal piece of the pie" dream. Well, some people need to eat more than others. Some people's jobs are more "important" than others. Even the most "Free" of societies operate on some people being more "equal" or more "free" than others.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969212 >># Your strawman argument is so obtuse it's baffling.
>> [_] Anon 969213 >># i think you meant "thousands" of years ago dumb ass...still have a point though
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969214 >># I'm a troll because I disagree with you. Gotcha.
>> [_] Anon 969215 >># yes i agree with you... there is no real "good vs evil" battle going on.. and also the big corperations the dude in the flash was talkin about are just maintaining the status quo my main point is we have all the resources to feed and shelter everone on the planet... and we should be striving towards that (and i belive we are so in a way this is a pointless debate) my main point is we have had the resourses to make
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969216 >># >my main point is we have all the resources to feed and shelter everone on the planet... What do you base this opinion on? Do you know how much of the planet is arable land?
>> [_] Anon 969217 >># is it lonely up there on your pedestal? if so try not talking down to everyone and join the discussion like a civil human..or not just a thought
>> [_] Anon 969218 >># ignore that last unfinished sentance... lol
>> [_] Anon 969219 >># You keep talking about Animal Farm like it's the freshest dystopian political-satire you've ever read. like maybe for homework or something. i think your highschool is showing.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969221 >># I'm being polite as I can, but you're giving me little to work with. You're saying we can sustain the entire population of the earth? 25% of the earth's surface is arable. Hydroponics on mass scale is still unfeasible as it takes far more energy than any other method. If you want to support your argument that we can do away with money and live in happiness and harmony - Support your argument with facts.
>> [_] Anon 969222 >># considering weve figured out how to farm all the nutrients we need in an underground "bunker" type enviroment id say we have it covered
>> [_] Anon 969224 >># the main point of the flash is that what we consider today to be sustainable energy is just a temporary obstacle
>> [_] Anon 969225 >># The good and evil stuff is enforced by movies and the media mainly. People think this kind of society won't ever happen because of people's apparent evil human nature. There's no real proof of this though...
>> [_] Anon 969226 namefag makes some points but... stop being a namefag. it's getting far too butt hurt in here. anywho, on the vid: the guy makes great idealistic points but the problem is he's an idealist. sometimes people feel like they need to take a radical ideal stance in the world in order to make any personal progress. I don't buy it.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969227 >># >i think your highschool is showing. Unfortunately, no one else is. >># You're talking hydroponics. Which take much more energy to grow than nutritional value that it grants. >># Sustainable energy is possible. This is true. That is a small piece of the equation though.
>> [_] Anon 969228 >># i agree people are not born with evil and sin... just look at a newborn... its our own society that does it
>> [_] Anon 969231 >># the biggest obstacle is that there is no one single definitive thing stopping this.... but tons of little things
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969233 >># It's just convenient for me, sorry. I've been posting with a trip for a long time. But I do agree with you in that is idealism and radical ideas are a bit too extreme. The greatest achievements in man are not leaps and strides but tiny steps towards a larger goal.
>> [_] Anon 969234 "We feel an educated society needs no population control." This man speaks truth. As evidence, I present /f/, wherein we find basement dwellers plodding through high school and college who will never get laid.
>> [_] Anon 969235 >># >Sustainable energy is possible. This is true. So is cost-effective population control, but no one wants to be the guy who publicly admits we have such a good use for nuclear weapons.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969236 >># Is our society evil, or is it our conception of what we define evil changing? Think about how aids used to be called grid. How homosexuality used to be a mental disease. What we perceive to be right or wrong changed with what we knew. We only can see the actions of ourselves and our societies, not the intentions. Those are the invisible guiding forces that lead to actions that may be judged as right or wrong. Yet people may have justifying circumstances for attempting to reach a goal. Just as the end does not justify the means, the means does not necessarily justify the ends. In this case: The road to hell is paved in good intentions.
>> [_] Anon 969237 >># /b/ is the best example of what an anarchy would look like yea the guy in the vid spouts alot of bs but the part where he says theres no reason for people to be starving (didnt say it but its implied) is what i agree with
>> [_] Anon 969238 >># The arugment of idealist vs realist kind of illustrates the relationship between logic and instinct. Realistically, we have all the instincts we'll ever need to survive. Ideally, we have all the tools we'll ever need to accomplish whatever we put our minds to.
>> [_] Anon 969240 >># i agree.... and personally i think that things are slowly working towards a place where everyone can have their basic needs satisfied... hence this is a pointless debate (but i still liek it)
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969242 >># There are starving families in America. People don't like to admit it but they're there. I've seen em first hand. We like to think we're a developed nation past it, but in the end we're as powerless as before. I don't think it's a matter of technology. No, that's not what holds us back. It's the fact that the federal government has become bureaucratic and our legislative branch is now for sale or rent. Every year congress passes new laws to increase their own salaries due to, "increased cost of living." Yet the minimum wage simply is not a living wage and has not been so in years. There hasn't been a federally mandated raise in minimum wage in a very long time. Once again: Are some people more equal than others? It seems our senators and congressmen and women think so. Their "cost of living" has increased, why hasn't the minimum wage? Isn't it more costly to just "live" for everyone, or just them? If it's just costly for them, why would that be?
>> [_] Anon 969243 >># But animal farm was just about Sovism Way to read the book nigger jiggaboo
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969246 >># Many right wing activists shake their fists menacingly at ted kennedy as if he was satan himself. Yet no other senator has fought harder or, more accurately, at all, for an increase in minimum wage laws. Who's looking out for the standard middle-class and lower class workers? Don't get me wrong though, he's wrong on some other key issues I disagree with. Issues I won't get into here as It's getting far too late for me to waste time arguing - but when he fights for an increase in minimum wage for the average joe and the right wing who claims to be the "average joe," ostracizes him for being disconnected with their needs, I think that's a little ignorant. Ignorance, however, is not a sin - It's a lack of knowledge.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969248 >># It was an allegory for stalinist communism. Pardon my ignorance but it seems damn close to what's being discussed here. Or else I'm wrong.
>> [_] Anon 969250 >># i agree with most of what ur saying... and also want to add that i dont think that theres some movment from the people at the top of the ivory tower to keep us down.... just a buch of ppl watchin their own asses (and bankin enuff $$$ to fund their family for hundreds of generations)
>> [_] Anon 969253 Through or proces of personal expresion we are giving the final blows to the family unit and traditional love. Good ridence. With artistic self expresion we can use are fassion, art and music selections to tell the word how we as individuals perfer a v neek, or pastell collors, or angry types of music. By making these selections the all the other individuals can quckly place us generaly into two to sixteen catigoris. People who call them selves liberal like to place people into 8- 16 catigories while consevatives perfer 2- 6. For example I am altra consevitive and place every one in a single catigory and that is the very silly catgory. Anyway on when it becomes comon knolege that there are actualy seven catgories then we can compleatly disconect from our family units and one of seven universal social positions we can master tecnology and fly at faster than light speed on very cleen space craft looking sexy in spandex and we will love it.
>> [_] Anon 969254 >># yes it is relevant communisim sounds great on paper but just dosent seem to work (maybe because of the fucktard leaders who tried it)
>> [_] Anon 969255 Humans are not perfect. A perfect society can never exist.
>> [_] Anon 969256 >># >Who's looking out for the standard middle-class and lower class workers? Not the camera-seeking blowhards touting higher minimum wages, that's for sure. Raising it has a short-term effect of higher wages... plus an immediate number of job losses at the lower end of the wage scale, combined with long term bump in inflation. Combine this with the Department of Labor statistics showing only 2.5%-2.9% of workers actually MAKE the minimum, and it (should) make you wonder why people get credit for looking out for the "average joe" merely by pushing bad economic policies.
>> [_] Anon 969259 >># in a society where more and more of humanity's "basic" needs are being met, we are seeing more and more of our intellectual needs being stifled and/or controlled. Moreso these intellectual needs are being manipulated by the very people, those in power, who are doing these things with the claim of meeting some basic need of society. our personal records are being rifled through and recorded by government with the claim that it is to protect children against pedophiles, or protect the country (read: government, not its people) from terrorism. our internet is being censored when certain people deem the content to be inappropriate. free speech is not free when the people in power do not wish it so. free thinking is not free when you are not given the access to educate yourself about all issues.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969261 >># Very much so. It's not a conspiracy. It's a very unorganized clusterfuck of inefficiently robbing people. We're being robbed blind very slowly and clumsily by people who have no idea what they're doing.
>> [_] Anon 969263 LETS TALK SERIOUSLY ON 4CHAN LOOLDY LAWL LAWL
>> [_] Anon 969264 >># samefag here In many ways I love what humanity has accomplished and i can't wait to see what the next century is going to bring. but in many other ways I am putting my tinfoil hat on and expect the government to come knocking at my door to take me away because I was looking at the wrong website. my biggest wonder is the fact that it seems very hard to gain any semblance of meaning from the large volume of data an orwellian society would need to comb through. yes, computers are getting better at data mining, but I still think that at some point people are going to find comfort, privacy and security in the masses simply because there are TOO MANY PEOPLE.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969266 >># Hm. Very compelling argument. You've given me much to think about. Though I still have to wonder why there's an increase in salary every year for senators/congressmen. Of course, it could be little more than just self-interest and federal waste in action.
>> [_] Anon 969267 >># troof. but at the same time governments are somehow very slowly and effectively taking away our civil liberties.
>> [_] Anon 969271 im not trying to say that the whole world should wake up tommorow and try to build the venus society(or whatever the fuck) just asserting my belif that we have the knowhow and resources to handle double the worlds current population better than we are handling the current population
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969272 >># That seems to be the most disturbing part. It feels almost intentional. Not as a bi-product but as a goal. They're not trying to make us feel temporarily safer by sacrificing liberty, but instead taking away our liberty first and making some people feel temporarily safe, if you catch my meaning.
>> [_] Anon 969275 >># Everyone wants a salary increase, Congresscritters just happen to be in the unique position of being able to vote for their own raises. It's a problem, sure, but it's nothing compared to the massive macroeconomic effects that raising the minimum across the ENTIRE economy has.
>> [_] Anon 969277 >># >># nomatter how you look at it this is only the tip of the iceberg for this... sad but true
>> [_] Anon 969279 >># this is the root of why society as we know it is flawed why should some congressfag whos no better (smarter stronger whatever) than me make so much while some mexican dumbass can burn his whole life away with hard labour and get arthritis in his 30's and barely get by?
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969280 >># So you have explained, quite well in fact. It's corrupt, but not all that horribly damaging in perspective from how you explained. Not sure what else to say though.
>> [_] Anon 969284 wow never thought id say this on 4chan but this has been a decent discussion.... probally could only happen on /f/, any other board would make it fill with retards and 404 in no time
>> [_] Anon 969287 >># you haven't looked at r9k much have you?
>> [_] Anon 969289 >># nope not really.. thought it was just /b/ with no copypasta... truth be told im a newfag(2 months)
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969291 >># /r9k/ has some uneducated opinions on certain things as well.
>> [_] Anon 969293 >># sorry for saying >># >># these comments... its was the /b/ in me that did it!
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969294 >># I don't hold grudges.
>> [_] Anon 969298 I have to say, democracy is a great system. It's too bad we're run under a Capitalism.
>> [_] Anon 969301 >># Wow, I just opened this huge thread, saw the usual dickless guy being pointless, scroll to the bottom, same guy still being angry for no reason. Unrefined people like this who don't give a shit about their country or society really need to pick up a harmless hobby to keep them busy.
>> [_] Anon 969304 >># Jesus wept, I just read some more of the thread, too. Talk about empty words... you could write a book with all that stuff you seem to think you know about. Exhasperating.
>> [_] Anon 969305 >># i feel the need to say that americas founders made one of the greatest contributions to the "world society" as we know it (bonus point: im not american). and yea the system isnt some evil juggernaught like this guy in the vid or the zeitgeist ppl suggest... personally i hope they keep up the good work (if the world can get over iraq and other missteps)
>> [_] Anon 969308 >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># >># I want to see were you stand 4 years from now, it will be interesting.
>> [_] Anon 969312 >># i hope obama does a good job... if he fucks up big..... say hello to palin!
>> [_] Why not? 969313 >># With NWO coming, you will not be able to "stand" anywhere. Is it bad? that I'm happy for it? This video should be posted 5 years from now, it will make people cry.
>> [_] Anon 969315 >># read: the apocalypse
>> [_] Anon 969318 JESUS CHRIST! WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED IN HERE? I'm first reply faggot by the way. Not that anybody fucking cares, but I'll fap regardless.
>> [_] Anon 969320 >># NWO huh? elaborate plz
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969322 >># You seem convinced that a great deal is about to change quite a bit.
>> [_] Anon 969330 >># based on his first 100 days hes gonna make massive changes i just hope he dosent fuck it up otherwise its back to the far right for america and then hello WWIII
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969333 >># We'll see. At the risk of starting a shitstorm - I don't give much of a damn as long as he keeps his hands off my guns.
>> [_] Anon 969334 lol, no, these aren't good ideas. They aren't even new ideas. They weren't even new ideas in 1974. Hayek wrote about - and dismantled - them in "The Road to Serfdom" in 1944, but that's just the most prominent example that springs to mind. The whole idea of pure "anarchistic" collectivism have been given an honest and fair shot countless times and failed every time, usually catastrophically. The human race is a society of insular, individual beings. Because humans can never know any mind outside their own, they will always define themselves by their own self-actualized values. Even pure altruism can never be anything more than an ultimately selfish interest in advancing the ideal of altruism. Until we learn how to be ants, this guy will remain full of shit, and frankly I wouldn't want to live in a world where he'd be right.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969336 >># Gonna have to agree with you thar, pardner.
>> [_] Anon 969338 >># LOL i FUCKING KNEW IT (jk) i think the 2nd is a good thing but some of the NRA's battles are dumb. for example they massivley lobbied against a 5 dollar gun charge designed to do better background checks.... wtf is 5 dollars tacked on to the price of a gun(some rifles r hella expensive).
>> [_] Anon 969340 >># most everyone in the thread agreed with what u just said... the main point is the technology and means to house and feed everyone... not what society and goverment becomes after that
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969342 >># The NICS works pretty well. When it's implemented. And states don't HAVE to participate. Though there's federal funding available for gun stores that do. Unfortunately the flaw with any system is it doesn't work if you don't use it, and NICS is a federal program, and the federal government can't force states to participate. Though most states do. The state I live in does.
>> [_] Anon 969344 >># <me or at least thats the main thing that sticks out to me.... i dont know much about the guy but he does seem like an extreme idealist fag
>> [_] Anon 969353 Hey, you can be a redneck nerd basement dweller, I know I am.
>> [_] Anon 969354 without competition, the human race will stagnate and die. this guy is as short-sighted as he is dead.
>> [_] Oblivion W. Guns !IPiPBOY0m2 969355 >># Cool.
>> [_] Anon 969360 >># yea competition is one of the fundamentals of nature and why we are what we are today no competition would cause us to become stagnant.. and in one way or another extinct
>> [_] Anon 969365 >># 'World' peace is an impossibility.
>> [_] Anon 969377 >># thats why i put in brackets "somthing resembling it"
>> [_] Anon 969381 >># plus impossible is a pretty strong word.. might never happen, yes. probally will never happen, yes. but frankly its possible just look back 100 years ago at how different things were... im sure weve done many so called "impossible" things in that time
>> [_] Anon 969386 >># <me (starts thinking of some of the developments in the past 100 yrs) hmm nukes, tons of missile and gun technology, bio warfare, mach speed planes (for delivering missles)......... damn you mind!!
>> [_] Anon 969391 This is ridiculous. All this shit is... man... this is retarded. He is a communist. none of his crap will work.
>> [_] Anon 969398 >># yea basically everone agrees with that... the main point of it that i was arguing for is how he says(roughly) "we have the technology and resources to feed and shelter everyone"
>> [_] Anon 969415 Its really /b/ in here...
>> [_] Anon 969418 I think he's correct in almost everything he says. I mean, I don't see how anybody could turn down complete liberty (unless you hate responsibilities).
>> [_] Anon 969426 >hopefully non-violent because fighting only breeds more fighting! Then don't fight. Let them kill you and your monetary system and there will no longer be a problem

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>> [_] Anon 951890 wat
>> [_] Anon 951896 where did this come from? and who is this guy? I'm all for building shit ontop of volcanos
>> [_] Anon 951897 sure is conspiracy in here
>> [_] Anon 951905 >># He wrote a book that a conspiracy theorist made a very popular movie based on.
>> [_] Anon 951966 >># but who is he?
>> [_] Anon 951986 Can we say brave new world? The Venus Project has some good points but also a lot of flaws. Flaws that are just as exploitable as the current systems. The biggest of which, the removal of free will, and the ability to decent; through conditioning, and computers making all decisions on our behalf. Also go fuck your self San Diego.
>> [_] Anon 951994 Competition drives everything. This man is king of trolls.
>> [_] Anon 952048 this man is worth listening to, too bad its easier for 99% of the sheep to slave away in vain for the rich VERY SMALL minority. if people do not adopt a large chunk of these social policies hes talking about, humanity will be gone off the face of the earth within 200 years if not sooner. seems like its going to be the former because there are alot of indoctrinated and uneducated people running around, score one for democracy. we need to learn from our mistakes god damn it.
>> [_] Anon 952057 >># Love drives everything, idiot.
>> [_] Anon 952062 >># idiot isn't a very loving thing to say, hunny.
>> [_] Anon 952082 >># So who were the morons that overlooked this guy and this technology? It really makes me feel stupid whenever I fill my gas tank knowing that a better way exists.
>> [_] Anon 952086 INCONCEIVABLE
>> [_] Anon 952095 competition is essential to being a human, we can't function properly without an enemy god this guy makes me angry
>> [_] Anon 952104 Someone obviously slept through their economics 101 class.
>> [_] Whiteglint 952113 >># essential or not, it has caused nearly every single human caused disaster/war ever and is something we should attempt to discard.
>> [_] Dawgas !P6pMZ.8ybs 952117 >># this system has an enemy the enemy of this system is the ignorant motherfuckers you see around you every day
>> [_] Anon 952212 IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW?
>> [_] Anon 952217 >># NO SAYS THE MAN IN THE VATICAN: IT BELONGS TO GOD.
>> [_] Anon 952229 >># >># Samefag. The fundamentals of the capitalist society began in the feudal era, about a half century back. Half that time, socialism came around. And you want me to take a thirty year old ideal seriously? The Venus Project will the the framework of the society of the future. Our religion will be Scientology and we will survive off of our own recycled waste being fed back into our bodies.
>> [_] Anon 952244 The man being interviewed is Andrew Ryan. Look 'im up.