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This is resource KQ9U305, a Archived Thread.
Discovered:11/8 -2012 20:30:42

Ended:12/8 -2012 01:53:22

Checked:16/8 -2012 09:06:38

Original location: http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/1741573
Recognized format: Yes, thread post count is 16.
Discovered flash files: 1





File: pearl2[1].swf-(255 KB, Game)
[_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)12:50 No.1741573

  Impossible!

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:07 No.1741588

  talks
  too
  sloowwwwlllyyyyy

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:14 No.1741592

  PROTIP: You can't win, not unless the AI is scripted to lose at some point.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:25 No.1741596

  you can win

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:28 No.1741597

  >>1741573
  >>1741592
  Take 4 from 6-row. CPU will take the 5th.
  Take 3 from 3-row. CPU will take one from 4-row.
  Take 3 from 5-row. CPU will take another from 4-row.
  Take the last from 6-row. CPU wa mou shindeiru.
  If you can't win from there, kill yourself.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:28 No.1741598

  1. Go first
  2. Remove entire row of 4, hit Go
  3. After each of his moves, use Windows Calculator in Programmer mode to XOR the totals of all
  three remaining rows together, then figure out how many pearls you have to remove from a stack to
  reduce the XOR total to zero, remove those pearls unless that would leave all remaining stacks
  with one pearl in them
  4. If this would, only take enough pearls to leave an odd number of single-pearl stacks (if it's
  3-1-1, take 2 from the 3 stack, if it's 3-1, take the whole 3 stack)
  5. Take the single pearl stacks remaining until there's one pearl left. You win, and can now stop
  playing.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:36 No.1741600

  GUYS, GUYS, you're overthinking it.

  If you're just going to follow an algorithm to beat him, just open up two instances of it and
  have him play against himself.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:43 No.1741604

  >>1741600
  FUCKING BRILLIANT

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:52 No.1741609

  This is a classical mathematical game of Nim that has been solved for any heap sizes using
  nim-sum algorithm.

  In this particular flash, if AI is using said algorithm you can only win if you let him start
  first.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)13:55 No.1741611

  If I recall, someone posted a guide to winning in this that involved treating each row as a
  binary number. Can't remember it all, and I can't be bothered to go lurking through swfchan to
  find it.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)14:02 No.1741613

  >>1741609

  Nope, the initial XOR of all the rows is 4.

  6 ^ 5 ^ 4 ^ 3 = 4

  To win, you have to go first, and take enough pearls off one row to change the XOR to zero, which
  means removing 4 pearls from row 4, 5, or 6.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)14:06 No.1741615

  If the initial XOR of all the rows is zero, you can only win by letting him go first. If it was
  7-6-5-4, then you would have to let him go first to win.

  Basically, when the rows XOR to zero, they can only be XORed to a nonzero number, while if the
  XOR is nonzero, there is always a way to make them XOR to zero. This way you can maintain control
  of the game, always forcing your opponent to disturb the balance and let you keep re-establishing
  it, until the endgame, where you simply make sure that all the rows have only 1 pearl in them,
  and there are an odd number of rows when you finish your turn.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)14:07 No.1741616

  >>1741613
  i just noticed yeah.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)14:20 No.1741626

  Oh yeah, and the end game starts when there is only one row left with more than one pearl in it.
  If there are an odd number of rows with a single pearl in them, take the whole row, while if
  there are an even number of single-pearl rows (or NO other rows), take all but one pearl.

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)14:52 No.1741641

  Can't beat this motherfucker, does he have rage face? I get the situation, when he was going to
  make turn, but then removed hand, is it win?

>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/12(Sat)18:31 No.1741727

  Translate the number of pearls in each row into a binary number:
  3 = 011
  4 = 100
  5 = 101
  6 = 110

  Add up each column, so column 1 is 0 + 1 + 1 + 1 which is 3. Get each column to equal either 0 or
  an even number by the end of your turn. So, let's take 4 from the 4th row of pearls, we now get

  3 = 011
  4 = 100
  5 = 101
  2 = 010

  Now all columns equal 2. Rinse, repeat, win.



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