File: verified_no_cheating.swf-(8.06 MB, Other)
[_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)11:52 No.1746286
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)12:04 No.1746296
Don't see why this can't be done w/o cheating.
I can walk through walls in OoT too without using tools.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)12:58 No.1746324
>>1746296
So if I use the budget overflow glitch in the SNES Sim City to get infinity dollars, it's not
cheating because I didn't use a Game Genie?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)13:13 No.1746335
>>1746324
Correct. It's not cheating because you aren't using any 3rd party peripherals to modify the game.
You're exploiting a glitch in the coding, just as this is an exploit of the games, apparently
shitty, coding.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)13:19 No.1746336
>>1746335
Cheating isn't limited to using third-party peripherals, you know...
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)13:49 No.1746359
>>1746336
Those people define it as that. They don't view exploiting shitty programming as cheating.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)14:05 No.1746366
>>1746359
Well, it certainly leads to entertaining videos.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)14:09 No.1746368
"Cheating" is either when you introduce a code that instantly gives you access to something that
you shouldn't or adding something (hardware or software) to the game in order to achieve some
feat.
However, exploiting engine glitches is not cheating, so clipping and gravity fuckups are fine.
Of course, typing codes that allow you to clip or fly is cheating. You have to exploit the whole
engine, not remove a part of it.
So while typing a code to get a super weapon is cheating,
Finding a weird place inworld where clipping lets you reach that super weapon in the room it's
supposed to be found is not cheating.
Clear enough ?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)14:15 No.1746373
>>1746368
That depends on your definition of the word cheating. Even Wikipedia says that cheating "can also
be realised by exploiting software bugs."
>> [_] Kim 08/18/12(Sat)14:22 No.1746381
When someone starts a contest, there are different rules set up, if one of those rules dont say
"NO EXPLOITING" then it is allowed to use those exploits and will not be seen as cheating.
also theres a reason why there is the word "bugusing" and the word "cheating"
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)14:23 No.1746383
>>1746373
wikipedia != sda
That kind of stuff is obviously context-sensitive.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)14:23 No.1746384
Most people would consider this kind of exploitation cheating, in the speedrun community they
draw the line on outside forces on the code. Just a difference of definition that can confuse
some people.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)14:26 No.1746386
>>1746384
If we're talking in the context of speedruns, then there's no problem. This began in response to >
>1746324, which would be considered cheating as you can't exactly speedrun Sim City.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)15:48 No.1746448
Attempt this in World of Warcraft = banned account
Exploiting is considered cheating. The same for people that shoot through walls in FPS games.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)15:51 No.1746453
>>1746448
As others have said, it all depends on context. In a normal playthrough, yes, it's cheating. But
when it comes to speedruns, cheating only refers to using a piece of in-game code, or some kind
of third-party software/hardware to do or get something you shouldn't be able to.
Again, context.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)16:01 No.1746468
>>1746453
Whatever helps you sleep at night, cheater.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)16:04 No.1746472
>>1746386
You'd be surprised !
www.youtube(.)com/watch?v=U0CYO64IpCU
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)16:13 No.1746476
>>1746468
>>1746448
little babby born in the 90s detected.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)17:27 No.1746527
Guys, two bigger questions concerning cheating in games:
+ If you pay-to-win by buying better weapons and exp, is it cheating?
+ If you get better equipment for playing a game longer and still play against new people that
has no such equipment, is it cheating?
>>1746472
>writing the word nigger in sim city 4
>get a million dislikes because people gonna people
>> [_] Anonymous 08/18/12(Sat)17:34 No.1746530
>>1746527
> If you pay-to-win by buying better weapons and exp, is it cheating?
No, as that's something the developer/publisher offers. It's shitty, yes, but it's not really
cheating.
>If you get better equipment for playing a game longer and still play against new people that has
no such equipment, is it cheating?
That would probably depend on if you're actively seeking out said people to play against, or if,
due to the way the game matchmaking works (or doesn't work), you're pitted against them.
