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[_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)20:18 No.1839645
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)20:30 No.1839651
wat is this shii?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)21:41 No.1839704
>>1839651
Shii is gone, he was our old admin along with moot, until moot banned him and salted the grounds
of world4ch so no discussion would spawn there ever again. The once thriving communities under
Shii and VacBob are dead, but Shii is elsewhere now, and with him the dream of prosperity on
proper futaba BBS lives on.
This flash is about the creation of /sjis/ which is still dead. w4c died because of moot, and so
did the creativity of the higher order boards.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)21:47 No.1839708
>>1839704
This flash is clearly from 2009 or later, it's not as old as you're making it out to be. W4C must
not be completley dead.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)21:50 No.1839710
>>1839708
>W4C must not be completley dead.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
(Also, without CAPTCHA, they're spam cess pits ...which actually brings up the quality of
conversation on some boards!)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)21:52 No.1839711
>>1839710
Plus it's shiichan, which was made by shii so it's inherintly shit. /vip/ was terribly broken for
JEWS [Part 8] got to 20000 replies. You have to give it though /vip/ and /prog/ were at one time
good boards, but they died some time after all moderation stopped and Shii was kicked out and
VacBob left.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:08 No.1839725
>>1839711
I can't comment on /vip/ but /prog/ still amazes me at times, much like /b/. You wade through
deep caverns of shit (and in this particular case, autism), but inevitably find incredibly clever
and informative posts. Nevermind that they're all sarcastic flames, they're still gems.
Shii was just cutting his shota teeth on web programming, so you can't blame him. Kareha (or any
other solution) could've been easily implemented, but I suspect the reason for sticking with the
current system is the sunk cost fallacy. VacBob (et al) went through the trouble of patching it
up, and it's still unique, compared to other sites, so why lose that?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:11 No.1839727
>>1839725
I think it's because moot would let it rot. Updating it would make it functional and that would
destroy his approach of salting the ground so that nothing can ever grow there again. /prog/ was
a good board, and still is if you wade through the shit, same as /b/. There's still ingenuity and
originality and quality, but less in amount and far more watered down in quality.
I'm sure that some more obscure sites, the one that is obvious, are still as creative and fun as
/prog/ and /vip/ used to be. Well save Shii's suffering in the moderation.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:28 No.1839734
>>1839727
moot isn't out to overtly fuck up any boards, even w4c. More likely, it's just nobody's priority.
Motivated, trustworthy moderators are rare and valuable beasts.
His philosophy is hands off, sure, and the spam could be solved easily enough, but at the end of
the day it's just about what the users post. They make their own board what it is.
My go-to for discussions like these is this epic work, "Attacked from Within":
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2009/3/12/33338/3000
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:31 No.1839736
>>1839734
That seems correct on all but one point. Exclusion and obscurity do improve forums, not destroy
it. Elitism is far better than all inclusion, other than that he hit it on the head.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:47 No.1839743
>>1839736
I respectfully disagree. In the general case, attracting more input and extracting the best
content out of the stream will be far better than trying to keep a VIP list of who's allowed to
post. It's at least a scalable solution. Elitism works for Postdam-size specialization, but look
at the undeniable effectiveness of sites like StackOverflow.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:47 No.1839744
>>1839736
Obscurity means people who could potentially be great posters are less likely to contribue.
Exclusion depends on implementation. The first that comes to mind, oddly enough, is fravia+'s old
cracking community, where he'd accept applicants who passed a "strainer" by submitting examples
of their work. If that's not relatable, MetaFilter might be considered exclusive because of the
entry fee.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:48 No.1839746
>>1839736
Either way, these sites certainly limit(ed) who could post, and higher SNR because of it. But I
don't think that beats out having, say, an open discussion board that rewards posters of
quality/detailed/on-topic/etc content and punishes the opposite.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:49 No.1839747
>>1839736
In fact, it's long been a project idea of mine to implement a system like this (because we all
know the Internet needs more forums, amirite) with its own unique quirks derived from years of
wading through shit like we were discussing...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:52 No.1839751
>>1839747
>>1839746
Not elitism of who is allowed to post, but who isn't. Exclusion of people who contribute nothing
or drag down the quality to a greater extent than we have here. Inclusion based on what you have
done means nothing to quality, exclusion based on what you have makes places better.
/f/ would be far better if moderators or even the community went out of their way to differ
posters who contribute nothing and have posting styles that are worthless. A good example of this
is /dqn/ people are often forced to leave because the community is very critical of outsiders and
relatively obscure so it does not attract lower quality posters as much.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)22:56 No.1839754
>>1839751
How do we differ people if everyone is anonymous?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:00 No.1839755
>>1839751
That's one of the core points of the linked article: that individual moderators aren't a scalable
solution, and ultimately, the community must be responsible for its own moderation (eg:
StackOverflow, /., and dare-I-say reddit).
Regarding /f/, I don't like the idea of differing/punishing posters because it's anonymity that
allows creativity. moot discusses this in one of his talks, about being able to try and fail.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:03 No.1839756
>>1839754
You can usually tell who is who by how they post. It's simple really especially if they are far
to one side or the other of posting, the more they fit in with the ideal the less shit that is
handed to them by the idealists. People who act outside of the ideal are easy to spot, it's this
hivemind mentality that allows for a wall between those in and those out where those who are in
can have peaceful intelligent discussion and those out can battle with a wall of sorts made by
those who recognize them as being out. If people can fit in they don't have to be old or new they
just have to fall in line.
>>1839755
Reddit failed in that regard to a point of being laughable.
As for creativity made from anonymity, that only extends so far because a great deal of people
are not creative or even intelligent and they should not be level with those who are, and moots
discussion on this was just a recount of Shii's essay on the matter, which he recanted.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:03 No.1839757
>>1839754
I'm not >>1839751, but if you wanted a system to track anonymous posting (my hypothetical
solution uses this, as does moot's current baby, canv.as [though not by default]): users sign up
with a username/password, but nobody sees it. It's only for the convenience of the server
tracking your set of posts, which users might vote up/down (just an example) and the server would
note that. But nobody would have to see it or stand out as distinct users.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:06 No.1839761
>>1839757
As I was saying in the post right above your, anonymity isn't, it is easy to differentiate
between two posters with no ids or tripcodes or any of that garbage. Even buddah will get angry
if you keep hitting him see if you continue to punish in word and in great amounts people whose
posts do not fit ideals they eventually will either leave or assimilate which is what should
happen, fit in or get out.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:12 No.1839765
It's really like I'm on one of the text boards right now.
KOREA EAT DOG
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:13 No.1839766
>>1839756
I feel like I'm veering off by replying in this vein, but it's fun and it's xmas and I'm drunk,
so what the hell. For whatever reason, Shii seems to have taken a step back from his earlier
position: http://shii.org/knows/Anonymity#Is_anonymity_a_bad_thing_or_a_good_thing.3F
Whereas moot is more convinced than ever (his recent talks are a huge departure from anything
Shii mentioned ...ie: about creativity). If anything, Shii was echoing 2ch.net's founder Hiroyuki
about the freedom to have people consider your words without distractions like user id or
registration date.
The way you talk about /f/, it seems like there's a blurry line between encouraging new content
that fits the existing culture and preventing new people from experimenting with the next
iteration in culture...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:18 No.1839771
>>1839766
I mean people like those who go into every flash movie and post "Sauce", or those who post ill
thought out responses full of emoticons and awful grammar, and those who post flash movies and
want to make "/f/ OC" without even learning of what is already on here. People who don't bother
being here long enough to see the established structure or go through the available resources
like the archive to find things that have already been posted and demand that /f/ and anywhere
else they go cater to them and become as they want it rather than try to fit in. Creativity is
does not come from those people, ideals among those who belong may differ and culture change but
those who do not belong bring in a culture that does not promote anything but stagnation,
repetitive, and repulsion of culture.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:24 No.1839773
>>1839757
That's an interesting idea
>>1839771
I think a good solution would be to have a sticky flash which teaches people how to resize
windows, use google, etc
Also, this is starting to feel like /q/
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:27 No.1839776
>>1839771
Right, assimilation is a huge hurdle, absolutely. This goes for any community.
Slashdot handles this better than others in that users must earn moderation rights - not only by
being regular users, but "normal" users (eg: not the guys on the site 24/7). They still allow
anyone to comment, however, and (going back to my above point) I think that is working fine for
them. The users spot worthy contributions from non-users and vote them to where others can see.
I liked how ED used to shut off registration when there was some media event that was bringing an
influx of new visitors. I think the better approach is to let people join, but slowly increase
their contribution capabilities over time, (ie: "leveling up").
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:32 No.1839778
>>1839776
I think flat out discouragement works best. Only those who really want to post and face being
labeled as an outsider and shunned. While not permanent this at least keeps people from joining
in until they understand how insiders act, and soon assimilate or leave.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:34 No.1839780
>>1839778
In some cases, the outsiders get persistent and eventually mass in large armies, refusing to
leave despite everything and everyone. Only the ban hammer can bring justice.
See: bronies
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:35 No.1839782
>>1839778
Not really. See /jp/ ; while they are easily the most exclusive of the image-boards, the average
thread is just as (if not more so) mediocre as the rest.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:36 No.1839784
>>1839780
And that is where competent moderation comes in. Furries, bonies, etc a come and bring with them
an undesirable culture and will not assimilate or leave and need to be strong armed out.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:37 No.1839785
>>1839782
Depends on the community, Katawa Shoujo General on /vg/ is easily the most accepting group on
4chon. They don't even have a board, they have a permathread.
Can't speak for /mlp/ because I'm not a gigantic faggot...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:40 No.1839790
>>1839782
/jp/ is far from exclusive, they just bread a culture of all around hate that made it exclusive
as a side effect; it is destructive to itself more than to outsiders. If you want the most elite
board you have to think /a/, and their good threads cannot be beat outside of Usenet. Though they
have constant battles with enemies that arise from outsiders but tend to struggle through and
manage to stave off or force to assymilate the majority of intruders.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:42 No.1839793
>>1839780
The ban hammer implies that moderators - perhaps a dozen people out of the hundreds of thousands
of users - know what's best for the community. Instead, I posit the community knows better about
what the community wants. They just need a way to provide input. moot will likely never implement
a feature like this until the current moderation system is drowning more than it already is, or
simply out of principle.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:44 No.1839796
>>1839784
There is one last problem: the "ideal" changing, expanding and becoming more tolerable as new
people join in and new content is created.
If 1ml of blue paint falls into 500ml of red, it'll still be red, but as more and more mls of
blue fall in, it'll become purple and, eventually, blue
>>1839793
Voteban where your vote's worth increases proportionally to your time of stay?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:44 No.1839797
>>1839793
(cont'd)
Oh, and we currently do have "input": that is the report feature, and more importantly, posting,
praising, and bumping the kind of content you like, while saging and ignoring the content you
don't.
I suspect most users just bitch about others' content without contributing the kind of content
they want to see on a board.
>> [_] Shii 12/24/12(Mon)23:49 No.1839799
>>1839796
Voting in any form for posts is not really all that worthwhile, it should simply be
discouragement by posinging and perhaps a system
should be put in place where subdeligation of moderation is better doled out so that janitors are
greater in number and better in quality, perhaps picked from posters on the board who the
moderation actually likes rather than useless IRC friends who do anything for it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:50 No.1839801
>>1839796
>your time of stay
This is exactly the kind of thinking that anonymity is supposed to counter. You have NO special
powers because you "were there first". If you keep posting the same mediocre content, and a newb
shows up with good OC, why should you be able to kill it just because it threatens your
perception of what content is good? There are tons of other users who might disagree. (Note: this
isn't endorsing voting.)
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:50 No.1839802
>>1839801
(cont'd)
>"If there is a user ID attached to a user, a discussion tends to become a criticizing game. On
the other hand, under the anonymous system, even though your opinion/information is criticized,
you don't know with whom to be upset. Also with a user ID, those who participate in the site for
a long time tend to have authority, and it becomes difficult for a user to disagree with them.
Under a perfectly anonymous system, you can say, "it's boring," if it is actually boring. All
information is treated equally; only an accurate argument will work."
See http://wakaba.c3.cx/shii/
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:52 No.1839804
>>1839797
I want to see in depth discussion like this thread on /f/ rather than a bunch of sauce responses
to flashes where the source was already given and the person is too dumb to look it up.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:55 No.1839805
>>1839799
>Shii
Hah, what the fuck
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:58 No.1839806
>>1839802
Relating that to /f/, there are many flashes that have value because they were made by people who
were satirical, and good at being satirical. Xenon to name one, his flashes weren't high quality
but they were funny to /f/ users. If the culture didn't find them funny he would not have made
more and. That is what I am trying to say. People who make things or posts that are well received
stay, those that don't don't and that is how self moderation shines.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:58 No.1839807
>>1839804
I guess one solution is to encourage OPs to provide sauce in the post. Or in the flash. Or from
swfchan.
Or we could stop delivering sauce to people not willing to search. Doesn't require mods, though.
>>1839805
Anyone can use the name field.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/24/12(Mon)23:59 No.1839809
>>1839805
I'd ignore it, the real shii has the tripcode poori or something like that now.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:02 No.1839813
>>1839807
The latter is what I was alluding to. If we stop giving people will stop asking and possibly even
leave or learn to use available tools.
My name got stuck as Shii from a thread a while ago on /a/ and it reverts everytime the page
refreshes, I can't stop it on this phone though.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:06 No.1839815
>>1839806
Well, assume the community didn't enjoy Xenon's work - he could've continued posting his flashes
(compare it to bronies posting their threads in /b/).
The solution still isn't for a moderator to swoop in and b& him. If anything, he should be
getting feedback on how not to make it suck, instead of just saying shit sucks and hoping they
never post again.
That spirit in a person that makes them want to contribute OC is a fragile and valuable thing
that must be nurtured. THAT'S the true job of a community: not deflecting OC they don't like, but
guiding it to become OC they do like.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:06 No.1839816
>>1839799
>>1839801
Yeah, you're right, it was a bad suggestion
Anything on the dilution of the ideal..?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:08 No.1839817
>>1839816
>Anything on the dilution of the ideal..?
Sorry, what do you mean?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:09 No.1839819
>>1839817
>There is one last problem: the "ideal" changing, expanding and becoming more tolerable as new
people join in and new content is created.
>If 1ml of blue paint falls into 500ml of red, it'll still be red, but as more and more mls of
blue fall in, it'll become purple and, eventually, blue
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:14 No.1839821
>>1839819
An easy fix seems to be split the paint (board) into red and blue?
/b/ used to be Anime/Random, then Anime was big enough to justify /a/. And /b/ was social enough
to justify /soc/. And shitty enough to spawn /r9k/.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:15 No.1839825
>>1839821
They weren't enough to save /b/ from anime, socialization and shit
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:16 No.1839827
>>1839821
Let's not forget that mecha and jp split from /a/, and some creative measures like re/b/oot took
place, and /radio/ died.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:19 No.1839828
>>1839825
Once the blue paint is there there is only so much you can do, but anime wasn't split from /b/ as
much as you think, it was more that random was taken from it. /a/ is still the closest to how
anime/general was at the time with OC and hatred of outsiders.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:20 No.1839830
>>1839825
/b/ was never good.
But it's important that /b/ is a festering cesspool, that's what fuels it. You want /b/ to look
like "/r/4chan top all time" and there can't be that wheat without the chaff. This is why moot
talks about the importance of being able to fail. We fail a lot on /b/, and that makes the
eventual win stand out.
The OC coming out of memegenerator/cheezburger/cocksucker-of-the-week is pathetic.
>>1839827
More on re/b/oot in a sec...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:21 No.1839831
>>1839828
So red paint is doomed to death and being overcome by other paints?
That's sad.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:25 No.1839837
>>1839830
/b/ was just an example. The issue at hand is whether splitting a board is enough to save it or
not
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:25 No.1839838
>>1839831
You can still try to get rid of it, pull out as much as you can, but some will still be left no
matter how hard you try. The only thing you can do s start over with a new can of paint, but that
won't be quite the same as you started out with either.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:26 No.1839839
>>1839828
>>1839831
You act like this "dilution" is a bad thing. Phrased another way, I think of it like
"cross-pollenation" - a positive thing for the diversity of content output. It's no accident that
memetic diversity follows genetic diversity in this way.
It's also a way for users to become more "well-rounded," which looks weird to write but I'm happy
if /a/ssholes can find their inner /fit/bro, etc. In my case, came for /h/, stayed for /b/, now
spending time on /f/ talking about the goddamn BBS. Hilarious.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:29 No.1839841
>>1839827
Can I ask what your impression of re/b/oot was before I give my account? It's rare I see others
mention it first.
Did you agree with the idea behind the email/sticky?
What kind of positive/negative change did you see?
Anything long-term?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:29 No.1839842
>>1839838
Blue paint will continue dripping in, though. Despite the blue paint can over there.
There is a last option left, though... Distilling? Although i have no idea how that would be done
>>1839839
What if the red paint doesn't like the blue paint? An example would be pony flashes on /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:34 No.1839843
>>1839841
Looking back on it now it just delayed the inevitable, it helped for a while but at some point it
just stopped working and things went back to how they are again. Even the 10 miniute cooldown on
posts did very little to stop bad posters it just made it slower. The best thing for /b/ is close
heavy handed moderation, w month ago someone banned porn, rolling, ponies, social, and a few
other things. Quality of posts skyrocketed, it had more effect than any of the drastic measures
moot took did. That is what /b/ and to a lesser degree all of 4chan needs.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:35 No.1839844
>>1839842
>What if the red paint doesn't like the blue paint? An example would be pony flashes on /f/
I like moot's succinct answer to this (don't have the screencap on this PC):
"I'm a big fan of ignore shit you don't like."
Goes along with my answer here: >>1839797
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:39 No.1839845
>>1839844
But we only have one page of flashes...
And ignoring shit can only go for so long.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:46 No.1839849
There's so much serious discussion in here it scares me
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:47 No.1839851
>>1839843
When I re-read the email at https://encyclopediadramatica.se/The_Great_Re/b/oot, it blows my mind
it was almost 6 years ago.
I think the result you described, "it helped for a while but at some point it just stopped
working and things went back to how they are again" makes perfect sense within the earlier
discussion ITT. Moderation hasn't been able to scale with the site's growth. The times of
increased mod activity are always complained about by some (probably few-but-loud) users, but the
positive results speak for themselves.
That doesn't mean ever-present mods are required for the site to function, though. It's nice, for
sure, but it can't be relied upon. In its current form, 4chan's quality can improve in two ways:
mods remove shitty content OR users make more/better content. Given that there are 10,000x more
users than mods, which seems more likely to bet on?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:48 No.1839853
>>1839849
alt.entertainment.flash
We are usenet quality now.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:50 No.1839855
>>1839851
Users are infinitely shitty, mods are always asleep
I'd rather not bet at all
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:50 No.1839856
>>1839851
(cont'd)
Of course it'd be best to have a little of both. But there's only one you can control. So you
might as well.
The re/b/oot was not a call for more janitor-style moderation, but for more users-like-us
moderation. And in that sense, it succeeded because we had a week of uniquely-prepared fun,
unrivaled to anything I've seen on this site.
I think the people calling it a "failure" ironically fail to see what it was meant to be.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:52 No.1839857
>>1839855
Are you a shitty user?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:53 No.1839858
>>1839857
Yes! I have yet to make any OC at all. All i do is complain about what i don't like and
compliment what i like
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:56 No.1839861
>>1839849
>>1839853
Don't worry guys, it's just one thread and we'll be done soon so /f/ can go back to hoods,
ponies, and people bitching about the prevalence/lack of hoods and ponies.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:56 No.1839862
>>1839861
Now i'm scared of going back to hoods and ponies
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)00:59 No.1839864
>>1839857
For /f/ I am, I have done nothing to help /f/ other than reminice with others. For /a/ no, I have
been there a long time and contributed to discussion the culture OC and much else. For /b/ no,
from 2005 to 2009 I posted on there and /a/ and created OC and discussion and helped to try to
keep outsiders out, we failed but at least I helped it in it's glory and contributed till it
became so bad that even I left, sometime after law and order ended when it went to complete shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:01 No.1839865
>>1839861
Let's make this more than one thread, I will leave when this is done but soon I hope to discuss
this again and perhaps have more discussion on /f/ as a general trend because there is not enough.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:01 No.1839866
>>1839858
Seriously, you'd have to be a real hardcore browser to make flashes just for /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:02 No.1839867
>>1839858
Sounds like a New Year's resolution in the making.
>>1839843
>Even the 10 miniute cooldown on posts did very little to stop bad posters it just made it slower.
I'd forgotten about this. I doubt it was 10 min, but I remember the throttling. Kinda like how
/r9k/'s unique circumstances haven't prevented it from steaming out turds consistently, it's
fascinating how those environmental changes don't do much. Shitposters gonna shitpost.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:03 No.1839869
>>1839865
So we'll turn /f/ into /q/ but without incessant complaints about something the mods did/didn't
do?
I like this.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:03 No.1839870
>>1839866
Or just a cultist. Flash friends, xenon, the guy from world2ch all come to mind.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:04 No.1839871
>>1839867
B-but i have no idea how to flash...
>> [_] menshii 12/25/12(Tue)01:06 No.1839873
>>1839869
/q/ but only for /f/ or related to flashes that are posted rather than being /b/ with nothing but
bitching about mods.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:07 No.1839875
>>1839866
Ever check out https://www.4chan.org/flash ?
>>1839871
Exactry.
Google is your friend (as will be Pirate Bay).
It's quite sad /f/ doesn't have a way to support people in getting started (like how /trv/ or
/fit/ have stickes), haha. Do 30 mins a day of dicking around, post them here asking for
feedback, and you'll be better than Xenon in 2 days. Better than Zone in 2 years, but start with
Xenon.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:10 No.1839876
>>1839875
By better do you mean visually better or content-wise better?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:11 No.1839877
>>1839875
Hell you'll be better than Brian OKK Redatz in an hour.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:13 No.1839878
>>1839875
If what you're saying is true. Imagine if everyone on /f/ could be arsed to make flashes.
Holy shit. The glory.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:13 No.1839879
>>1839876
I'll be honest, I fucking hate most everything Xenon touches, but that's just his screami..
"humor" and mine not matching up.
That said, I'm super happy for what he contributed (and possibly still does). As I mentioned
before in >>1839815, OC is just too precious a thing to hate on (ultimately discouraging authors
from continuing to improve).
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:17 No.1839883
>>1839878
It was actually CENSORED VAGINA's page here on manga editing that got me and a friend to
translate a few volumes"
http://www.insidescanlation.com/etc/Censored-Vaginas-Quick-Manga-Editing-Guide/manga_guide/
Little things like this - showing someone the basics - go a long way.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:20 No.1839886
>This whole seeriuz discushun started because someone didn't know who Shii is
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:24 No.1839890
>>1839879
HURRO
DIS IS AN INTENET ANIMASHUN
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:25 No.1839893
>>1839886
It was fun. I like reminiscing like this, and I suspect particulars like "Shii" or "re/b/oot"
catch the eyes of oldfags, and bring them out of their crusty, cynical shells.
The hard part is then moving the discussion beyond "X was better back then" and into more
productive territory...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:26 No.1839894
>>1839890
LOL SO RANDUM XD
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:26 No.1839895
>>1839893
It's never going to be productive
This thread will no longer exist tomorrow
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:26 No.1839896
>>1839886
Nope. That was me. I typed it intentionally to see whether someone would reply. Worst that could
have happened would be everyone assuming the Shii in the post being a typo error for
>What is this shit?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:28 No.1839898
Also,
http://swfchan.net/13/BOTNFFV.shtml
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:29 No.1839899
>>1839896
Heh, I love when this works. Few realize you can "troll" to get meaningful answers/reactions -
not just HE MAD type stuff.
"Shii" is never even mentioned in the flash. Good work, brah.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:30 No.1839900
>>1839896
So... Did you like the results?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:33 No.1839902
>>1839900
We're all here for a reason, yea?
>>1839895
The ideas brought out in the thread will live in the heads of the people who read it. The death
of the thread is inevitable, so why worry about it?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:37 No.1839904
>>1839902
I guess the results were a little bit better than expected.
Also, i really hope the ideas thought up in this thread get implemented within my lifetime. They
are seriously great.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:38 No.1839905
>>1839877
lol
Looking back at some of his stuff, it's actually quite charming.
https://www.4chan.org/flash?file=SageMan.swf&title=Sage+Man
I always laugh when teh reidicks come out...
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:39 No.1839906
>>1839900
Best thread that I've ever had on /f/. Funny thing is that I have just five posts in this entire
thread and most of them are mundane. The most memorable threads are those which are most
unexpected.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:39 No.1839907
>97 replies
>/f/
what.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/25/12(Tue)01:47 No.1839912
>>1839906
Oh, related to >>1839858's resolution, anyone have brotips on guides for making flash loops?
I'm able to Google, but I want to know if you guys have any particular suggestions.
