File: verified_no_cheating.swf-(8.06 MB, Other)
[_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)11:04 No.1790780
well its true
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)11:19 No.1790790
But WTF is it?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)11:23 No.1790791
Fuck gravity, fuck physics, and FUCK YOUR GODDAMN DUNGEON
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)14:36 No.1790886
Yep.. Last time i played severance it was that easy
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)14:40 No.1790887
Exactly what constitutes cheating?
And why the fuck do they even bother to make a "No Cheating" rule if this doesn't?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)14:44 No.1790889
>>1790887
Cheating is
>Extra game devices (gameshark, turbo controller)
>tool assists (programmed player, not human)
>any form of hacking data (edited game file
Cheating is not
>abusing the fuck out of in-game glitches
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)14:46 No.1790890
>>1790889
Yes. But I am am wondering now why they took out the half life speedruns just because they used
scripts... those scripts are completely console based and thereforce not 3rd party or anything
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)15:01 No.1790895
>>1790890
It's still a script.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)15:20 No.1790904
>>1790895
yeah but it was made in the game with the game feautures
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)15:24 No.1790906
Severance is so hackable since it relies on scripts, but still it's a good game
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)16:20 No.1790919
>>1790904
except that it wasn't. the script wassn't bundled with the game, it was written by someone
external. everybody could not use that script without downloading it from somewhere. that's why
that is cheating.
by your logic using a cheat code (up down left right right left) isn't cheating eaither since it
is a "game feature"
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)16:45 No.1790942
>>1790919
Doesn't that indeed constitute fair play? If the intention of a game is not to allow you "alter
the rules", then it shouldn't be available whatsoever.
However, the scripting files allows anyone to do anything within the limitations of the game;
would ANY change to the scripts be considered cheating? What if it put you at a disadvantage by
reducing your movement speed -- is it still cheating?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)17:00 No.1790949
>>1790942
Short answer; Yes.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)17:07 No.1790956
>what is cheating
Cheating is essentially playing with a different ruleset or significantly different set of pieces
than everyone else. In this case, altering the game files essentially gives you a different
game--you aren't playing the same game once that's done. To submit it accordingly would be
cheating, just as much as if you tried to replace all of your pawns with rooks in chess. It would
be a perversion of the equipment and the rules.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)17:18 No.1790969
making a very hard jump over a wall to take a shortcut is not cheating
somehow making it possible to walk through a wall by editing the game rules is cheating
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)17:26 No.1790976
>>1790956
Ridiculous. In this case, you are arguing cheating is any variation of some "pure" form of the
game which is arbitrary to the player's perspective.
If the game *offers* the ability to change the rules, and those rules are made more
'challenging', no one would call that a cheat.
No one mentioned whether those scripts made it harder or easier, but the mere fact that scripts
are allowed to be executed does not necessarily constitute cheating -- what if the scripts fixed
some AI bugs or broken-/half-implemented features that instead enhance gameplay? Hardly a person
would call that cheating.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)17:29 No.1790979
>>1790976
>No one mentioned whether those scripts made it harder or easier, but the mere fact that scripts
are allowed to be executed does not necessarily constitute cheating -- what if the scripts fixed
some AI bugs or broken-/half-implemented features that instead enhance gameplay
To go back to the chess metaphor, this is like fixing the "bug" of En Passant. You're still
changing the rules, to make it harder for yourself or easier doesn't matter.
Cheating is changing the rules from the default playing field.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/22/12(Mon)17:38 No.1790984
>>1790979
so is playing on anything besides normal mode cheating? since it would alter the enemy AI and
patterns to be easier or more difficult?
