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[_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:14 No.1897932
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] The Devastator 02/26/13(Tue)20:18 No.1897933
Hahaha this shit is debunked in the first ten seconds.
The only reason this reality allows you to exist is if you meet certain criteria?!
You exist because what can physically done is allowed by nature.
Derp
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:22 No.1897935
food, air, and water aren't criteria? are you god?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:24 No.1897937
fucking zeitgeist. If I wanted to be bound by the "laws of nature" I would go be a hippie.
Fuck that shit, I am man and therefore I have a burning desire to defy all that is binding,
nature notwithstanding. I wish to see a future of an extravagant and superbly developed race of
human beings with technology we only dream of.
Zeitgheist wouldn't bring this, it would make us all complacent with the lowest common
denominator. Fuck that shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:30 No.1897940
you can't defy the laws of nature, that's like saying you can live without eating, breathing, or
drinking water. It doesn't matter how much you believe you can stand up and walk on the walls,
the law of gravity will not allow it. Technology is developed through recognising what the laws
of nature are, not defying them as that is impossible. It's like a religious person who claims
humans are divine and better than animals.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:34 No.1897944
>>1897940
>semantics
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:39 No.1897945
But all you need is love
Beatles: 1
Zeitgism: 0
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)20:39 No.1897946
There are plenty of things zeitgeist is wrong about for example: Trade or money or propety are
not forms violence as they claim. Patriotism is not harmful towards anyone. Zeitgeist is a
communist, internet, hippie, satanist, political cult. No less dangerous than scientology. Ban
this spam.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:10 No.1897973
Lol'ed. But not only to flash.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:11 No.1897975
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>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:20 No.1897979
Wait, you guys actually watched it? The second I see Zeitgeist I just close the flash. I still
don't even know what Zeitgeist is (other than a bunch of spammers), and I don't care to research
finding out. That's not what I'm here for.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:43 No.1897991
soooo..... the zeitgeist philosophy is basically a green version of Communism? I've never heard
of it before but it seems like china an Russia got together and gang raped green peace, to make a
baby that then created a philosophy after its own ideals and ended up making this.... sadly no
matter what the flash states, it couldn't make a valid point on anything, when it was talking
about cigarettes it started out about the health but somehow seaways into how corporate
businesses were evil and trade is horrible we should pool resources blah blah blah communistic
bull blah blah please people, when you watch this, understand that its communism with the benefit
of also getting people who are environmentally oriented to wanna join up. thank you.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:52 No.1897998
I like the concept, help Earth and shit, but It would never work. It reminds me of Communism,
someone would get greedy, people want to get attention or rewarded for their talents, people
can't police themselves, people like that idea of having someone in charge.. etc.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:52 No.1898001
>>1897946
>Zeitgeist is a communist, internet, hippie, satanist, political cult.
>all thats bad in the world
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:53 No.1898002
You know, I've heard of the whole spam scandal, but I didn't know much about the "Zeitgeist
Movement" before I saw this.
NOW I can criticize them.
The first insane part is the complete misunderstanding of the concept of trade. Now, first of
all, it isn't explicitly stated why trading is so bad. The author simply condemns it without
another word. Furthermore, the presentation suggests there is evidence that trade is harmful,
despite it being proven beneficial in the majority of cases! Consider the pressure on North Korea
to allow an oil pipe through their country from Russia to South Korea; strictly motivated by
money, this will open up NK astoundingly, which will almost certainly lead to greater human
rights movements in the nation. Trade itself is good in theory, too; both parties are receiving
in-demand items that they cannot create on their own.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:54 No.1898003
>>1898002
That's the most obvious issue, but there's a deeper problem with the philosophy. First of all,
everything around us is natural! It's all the result of a natural process; humanity is a natural
thing, a notable thing, granted, but one that's a result of nature. No primordial laws are being
violated; everything is going exactly as it should be (with exceptions standing where QM says
they should) and considering that the laws of nature are, as the presentation states, empirical
and primordial, the brand of naturalistic fallacy that this ideology supports invalidates it
instantly!
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:56 No.1898005
>>1898003
The only thing that's particularly unique about Zeitgeist is how it's created an insane synthesis
of Randian and Marxist ideas. The two philosophies are not necessarily mutually exclusive, yet
they hardly go hand and hand. The concept of looking out for one's self-interest above all else
hardly fits within a Marxo-Communist framework, yet somehow it's done. Granted, it's held
together by duct tape, logical fallacies, and cognitive dissonance, but I ought to give credit
where credit is due. However, real issues arrive when the final thesis itself is considered.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)21:59 No.1898007
>>1897946
Satanic? You're joking, right?
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)22:02 No.1898008
>>1898005
According to the Zeitgeist supporters, all human resources should be allocated towards scientific
research and the technological advancement of humankind. This must be accompanied by utter
selflessness, thinking of the world before the self.
Humans are incapable of doing this.
Nothing we do, as psychological, sociological, anthropological, and even neurological studies
have proven, is done without respecting a reward. The grandest displays of generosity are done to
win public favor, the kindest deeds to win esteem among one's peers. This is not due to
corruption of humanity. It's how our logical system works.
Zeigeist, despite claiming empiricism, asks us to do what we are psychologically incapable of
doing. That is why it will never gain any ground.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)22:19 No.1898023
LIKE I A GIVE A SINGULAR FUCK.
God damn, this shit's more annoying than door-to-door Jehova's witness people. At least I can be
physically rude to them.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)22:25 No.1898025
Zetgeist is supposed to be banned from /f/. everyone repport this thread, nobody needs to listen
to this bullshit
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)22:25 No.1898026
>scientifically proving your subjective opinions
Riiiiiight...
>> [_] Anonymous 02/26/13(Tue)23:05 No.1898057
The trolling here is of legend.
Please, continue.
>> [_] Anonymous 02/27/13(Wed)00:14 No.1898132
>>1897946
>mfw satanism is all about doing what you want as an individual
>mfw zeitgeist would oppose this with their communism
>> [_] Anonymous 02/27/13(Wed)00:17 No.1898135
I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS SHIT