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This is resource SWM52OZ, an Archived Thread.
Discovered:22/4 -2013 11:40:20

Ended:22/4 -2013 14:50:45

Checked:22/4 -2013 16:02:20

Original location: http://boards.4chan.org/f/res/1951164
Recognized format: Yes, thread post count is 169.
Discovered flash files: 1





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[_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)04:26 No.1951164

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)04:44 No.1951168

  You do realize that as little as 7 people or less is actually going to consider taking interests
  in your little cult right?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)04:49 No.1951171

  >>1951168
  Science is communism, and science is religion.

  I agree with you, zeitgeist is a cult.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)04:59 No.1951178

  >>1951171
  Yet the people who are truly part of it don't want anyone to think of zeitgeist movement as a
  cult so why do you insist on presenting it as such?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:03 No.1951183

  >>1951178
  That doesn't make any sense.

  if zeitgeist is a cult, it is a cult, if zeitgeist is not a cult, it is not a cult.

  My actions cannot make the zeitgeist movement into a cult if it's not.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:04 No.1951184

  >>1951168
  Seven?! I'm sure zitgeist-chan would continue on his noble quest in the face of adversity if only
  one person were enlightened!

  Ganbatte, zitgeist-chan!

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:09 No.1951188

  I wrote this up for the stuff earlier today but it lapsed before I could post it.

  https://www.facebook.com/htdghdr.grsdgrsdhrsd
  >His personal profile
  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Zeitgeist-Posters/431882220198401
  >His page with some of his work, 2.9K photos last time I checked
  https://www.facebook.com/groups/138476915229/
  >Zeitshit group he's a part of
  https://www.facebook.com/masongarthjameslee
  >Gets some help from this guy, also he's an admin in the facebook group.

  Other tidbits I've picked up: No job. Uses Telstra wireless. Others in the group refer to each
  other as "Geisters". Prints all his posters at a job center. IP address on November 16th and 20th
  2012 was 150.101.81.66, traces back to internode ADSL (eth7747.sa in Adelaide) at the moment.

  Fairly sure he's in Adelaide as he puts up a shit-ton of posters at the university there, but
  there's a chance he might be in Melbourne.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:11 No.1951190

  >>1951188
  >some deluded australian aspie in a cult

  How does this not surprise me

  Get your shit together, Australia

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:12 No.1951191

  >>1951188
  Where's your point?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:13 No.1951192

  >>1951191
  What's*

  Now go the fuck away you aussie aspie, no one cares about your cult

  Try some mental illness forums, I bet some people will find it interesting

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:14 No.1951194

  >>1951190
  ad hominem fallacy

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:15 No.1951195

  >>1951192
  Still, ad hominem fallacies.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:15 No.1951196

  >>1951191
  Give me your real name and address you faggot, I'll give you a point.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:16 No.1951197

  >>1951196
  AD HOMINEM FALLACIES.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:16 No.1951198

  >>1951194
  What? Your "flash" is nothing that is contributive to the website but appealing to those with
  mental illnesses, despite the fact that yourself have a mental illness, by posting this here
  numerous times, over a long period of time, trying to appeal to teens and young adults.

  Have YOU checked your mental status?

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:18 No.1951199

  >>1951197
  You say that like you're not an asshole.
  >protip, you are

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:19 No.1951200

  >>1951183
  >My actions cannot make the zeitgeist movement into a cult if it's not.
  But your actions can make it appear as a cult even if it's not. By constantly pushing your ideals
  on people instead of letting them discover it for themselves, you make it appear as if the
  movement is desperately looking for followers as if it's not satisfied with the one it already
  has, and truth be told, your actions only serves as to antagonize your cause and thus pushes away
  any potential followers.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:20 No.1951201

  >>1951191
  Don't worry about things that don't concern you. This was not intended for you.

>> [_] Jesus Zeitgeist Christ 04/22/13(Mon)05:20 No.1951202

  >>1951188
  LOL, you got that IP from 4chan vs. Zeitgeist.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:21 No.1951203

  >>1951199
  ad hominem fallacy

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:24 No.1951204

  >>1951201
  Still, ad hominem fallacy.

  >>1951200
  As I mentioned in the thread on /q/ sometime ago:

  If market advocates hate people who are anti-trade as in they advocate open source, then they are
  going to hate the zeitgeist movement, sooner or later.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:24 No.1951205

  >>1951202
  Yep. You were stupid enough to give it out for some reason.
  >b-but I don't have that one any more
  Nope. Nothing stopping me from forging some law enforcement CP bullshit and getting more info
  about it, though.

  >>1951203
  Prove me wrong then.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:26 No.1951206

  >>1951205
  thx m8, ur doing god's work

  Tbh though I think most people see through his bullshit.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:26 No.1951207

  This single flash contains more worth than all of 4chan. Learn what a cult is, you fucking
  retards. This is not a cult, and there's nothing inherently wrong with this. It's important,
  though, to the progress of the human race, that concentrations camps be built to exterminate all
  the people that come to 4chan.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:27 No.1951208

  >>1951205
  FYI, aussie unis have a lot of fringe movements that no one really gives two shits about.

  Like at mine there's a communist party club that always hands out fliers, but mostly get avoided.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:27 No.1951209

  >>1951194
  It's a little silly to call it an ad hominem, since we're not debating. We're not trying to prove
  anything logically, we're just desperately trying to get rid of an unwanted pest, using any
  technique that has a chance of working.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:28 No.1951210

  >>1951207
  Shush, aspie.

  Shush.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:28 No.1951211

  >>1951204
  >As I mentioned in the thread on /q/ sometime ago:
  >If market advocates hate people who are anti-trade as in they advocate open source, then they
  are going to hate the zeitgeist movement, sooner or later.
  Then you should try your best to avoid a lot of that hate by "NOT" overwhelming the market
  advocates with your ideals

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:30 No.1951212

  >>1951205
  I posted that IP when my computer was turned off and I didn't have a internet connection at home.
  So... hmmm... your move?

  Prove you wrong about what? I was pointing out your ad hominem fallacies:

  Appealing to personal considerations (rather than to fact or reason).

  >>1951207
  hmmm zeitgeist doesn't plan to build concentration camps...

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:31 No.1951214

  >>1951207
  ..have you thought that one through?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:34 No.1951215

  >>1951209
  ad hominem fallacy

  >>1951210
  ad hominem fallacy

  >>1951211
  Why would I be sensitive towards market or trade advocates if I believe they're liars?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:37 No.1951217

  >>1951206
  TBH I think everyone sees through his bullshit. I'm not afraid of innocent minds being corrupted,
  I'm afraid of people that don't care being continually bothered.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:37 No.1951218

  >>1951215
  >Why would I be sensitive towards market or trade advocates if I believe they're liars?
  Because it doesn't just hurt you, it hurts your movement, hurts the chances of you gaining more
  supporters, and possibly takes away the supporters you already have.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:37 No.1951220

  >>1951215
  > if I believe they're liars?

  Justify that.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:38 No.1951221

  >>1951212
  >I posted that IP when my computer was turned off and I didn't have a internet connection at
  home. So... hmmm... your move?
  I don't fucking care if it was your home IP or not, you were posting from it. I don't care if it
  was the library I know you sometimes use, or you were leeching someone's wifi, or it was a public
  hotspot, or whatever, You were posting from it, you were physically present there at the time.

  >Prove you wrong about what? I was pointing out your ad hominem fallacies:
  And I was pointing out the fact that you're an asshole. The fact that you keep shitting up /f/
  and won't stop unless you're made to. The fact that you keep coming here and posting four fucking
  flashes when you know it's not welcome.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:41 No.1951223

  >>1951221
  Mainly, ad hominem fallacies. I can't address this. Physically present at a computer? Wow, that's
  creepy yet should I be flattered that you want to "internet stalk" me?

  >>1951220
  Trade and property are promoted as honest concepts by market advocates, when in reality property
  is a covert form of violence which requires deception.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:42 No.1951225

  >>1951223
  >when in reality property is a covert form of violence which requires deception.

  Expand on that, it sounds baseless.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:43 No.1951227

  >>1951218
  I don't fear this.

  >>1951217
  the zeitgeist movement has members, so I'm glad there's some who don't.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:45 No.1951228

  >>1951223
  >Wow, that's creepy yet should I be flattered that you want to "internet stalk" me?
  Well considering you use a fake name on facebook I'm guessing you don't want people knowing who
  you really are. You knew this was coming.
  As for stalking? Well I guess, I want to find out who you really are, and have a go at you with a
  hammer.

  I'd say 'break your fingers with a hammer' like that other anon did, but I'm guessing that won't
  stop you.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:46 No.1951230

  >>1951228
  ad hominem fallacy,

  beneath this mask there is more than flesh, beneath this mask there is an idea mr. creedy and
  ideas are bulletproof.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:47 No.1951231

  >>1951227

  Please answer the question stated in >>1951225

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:47 No.1951232

  ad hominem is zitgeist-chan's word of the day! He's so happy he can use it in a sentence! His
  vocabulary studies have paid off!

  Ganbatte, zitgeist-chan!

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:49 No.1951234

  >>1951225
  in my area, there is a mansion right next to a train station and it is offensive as you can see
  smaller less confrontational housing.

  If that's not covert violence, I do not know what it is.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)05:50 No.1951236

  >>1951230
  >ideas are bulletproof
  I'd like to make this clear. I don't care for zeitgeist either way. What people (including you,
  you cum-guzzling faggot) want to believe is the correct solution for societies problems is their
  business, weather it be god, zeitgeist, more politicians, or whatever.

  I just want to fuck you up because you won't stop flooding /f/ is all. Not your ideology.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:50 No.1951237

  >>1951230
  Ooh that sounded so badass. I'm totally wet for you!

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:52 No.1951239

  >>1951234
  Covert violence is destroying the peace of an online forum to promote your ideas.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:52 No.1951240

  >>1951234
  >less confrontational housing.
  >If that's not covert violence, I do not know what it is.

  This seems subjective, how have you backed your opinion with some sort of study?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:52 No.1951241

  >>1951234
  that sounds like that feminist thingy with them being raped just by a look

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:52 No.1951242

  >>1951236
  ad hominem fallacy.

  Obviously you are deranged by the idea of doing divine justice, like Kira in Death Note.

  Just write my name in a book and count 45 seconds.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:53 No.1951243

  >>1951236
  >>1951239

  You should stop yelling at him and just ask him questions, it's far more effective.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:54 No.1951245

  so much ad hominem fallacy in this thread. i feel like i'm in the real life again

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)05:55 No.1951248

  >>1951241
  Please don't bring feminism into the discussion /v/.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)05:57 No.1951250

  >>1951240

  I admit to you, I'm not a scientist, yet my personal contention is that a competitive society is
  structurally unfair towards the people as the rich vs. poor senario is not an anomaly in a trade
  or market society, it is in fact the very basis. Which then falls to market advocates to justify
  corruption with the confusion and nonsense talk of monetary-economics, appeals to "human nature"
  and "eugenics"

  I hate the market and trade, and I blame myself and everyone for supporting such a monster

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:01 No.1951253

  >>1951250
  You are not a scientist nor appear to have any sort of study related to the phenomena you're
  describing (I'm assuming).

  Is there any way you could improve the credibility of your statements?

  >I hate the market and trade, and I blame myself and everyone for supporting such a monster

  This statement seems rather emotional, but not very helpful, do you have any points that have
  more substance?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:07 No.1951257

  The other day I was talking with friends in a coffee shop when a stranger sat down at our table.
  He started talking so loudly I missed some of the conversation I wanted to hear. I tried ignoring
  him, but he wouldn't go away. I tried asking him to leave, civilly expressing my dissapproval,
  and joking with him, but he never left. He came back to the table several times on different days.

  I am not talking to zitgeist-chan, only to the other people at the table: How is zitgeist-chan
  different from the stranger in the coffee shop? Why does he deserve more respect?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:07 No.1951258

  >>1951253
  What exact statement do you want me to expand on?

  to go into property more there's the movie I submitted to 4chan in parts called LORD OF WAR.

  with the belief in property comes the belief in defending such property and the obsession with
  gaining more property. So the biggest scam artist on the planet is nicolas cage in lord of war as
  he keeps selling the weapons people think they need to continue the acts of property war.

  "that's the secret to survival, never go to war, especially with yourself" -lord of war.

  I've done a lot of investigation regarding the anti-zeitgeist perspective vs. the zeitgeist
  perspective.

  I've found pro-zeitgeist videos are more reasonable, yet anti-zeitgeist are derogatory, and
  mainly their argument against zeitgeist has been ad hominem.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:09 No.1951259

  >>1951257
  poor example, you don't need to be in the loud zeitgeist conversation comments section which you
  don't want to talk about.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:11 No.1951262

  >>1951259
  You spammed four flashes, and four a few hours ago. You bumped off flashes I'm interested in.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:13 No.1951263

  >>1951259
  I'm not complaining about this one thread, I"m complaining about the flooding and spamming
  practices that show a clear disrespect to /f/, as f4r stated.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:13 No.1951265

  >>1951258
  >with the belief in property comes the belief in defending such property and the obsession with
  gaining more property.

  Isn't that what they call the slippery slope fallacy?

  >So the biggest scam artist on the planet is nicolas cage in lord of war

  I seriously hope you don't base your ideological struggle based on a piece of entertainment ...
  that would be questionable, to say the least.

  >I've done a lot of investigation regarding the anti-zeitgeist perspective vs. the zeitgeist
  perspective.

  Prove it.

  >I've done a lot of investigation regarding the anti-zeitgeist perspective vs. the zeitgeist
  perspective.

  I'll take what is "anecdotal evidence" and "bias reinforcement" for $400.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:15 No.1951266

  >>1951262
  they're not gone at all, they're on swfchan

  They would be in the most recent.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:18 No.1951268

  >>1951266
  You've incurred a cost(time and convenience) on people who expect certain content on /f/.

  You also mistag and obfuscate the names of your flashes.

  Isn't this not violence?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:20 No.1951270

  >>1951266
  Do hurry up, I await your replies.

  I dare say I am almost enjoying them.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:22 No.1951274

  >>1951265
  Commonly when people WANT zeitgeist to be wrong, they'll be dismissive of any argument I give, no
  matter the context, the evidence or what have you.

  In a peer reviewed situation I imagine the burden of proof comes from all angles, not just mine.

  Yet if you believe zeitgeist is wrong no matter what I say, then there's no way I can argue with
  you when I say my most basic statements.

  Monetary economics is a religion
  Trade and property are covert forms of violence
  Open source is good for public health
  Competition in any form is bad for public health

  are some examples

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:24 No.1951275

  >>1951274
  >they'll be dismissive of any argument I give, no matter the context, the evidence or what have
  you.

  So I assume you have no evidence to provide aside from the lack of effort on your part then?

  >In a peer reviewed situation I imagine the burden of proof comes from all angles, not just mine.

  I am sorry, the burden of proof belongs to the claimant. Doubly so when it comes to scientific
  studies.

  >Monetary economics is a religion
  >Trade and property are covert forms of violence
  >Open source is good for public health
  >Competition in any form is bad for public health

  These are unsupported claims, please prove them.

  I await your replies warmly.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:24 No.1951276

  >>1951268
  The content on /f/ is largely always the same.

  Hentai, Porn, Loops Games,

  and it cycles through those flashes on repeat with new ones of the same exact thing over and over.

  In short, I don't respect the naive bubble you want to remain in with vain entertainment.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:25 No.1951278

  >>1951266
  Most of the posts on /f/ are reposts, so maybe I should just browse swfchan instead of coming
  here? Why do you think I come to /f/? Obviously you think my reasons are meaningless, since you
  intentionally disrupt my enjoyment as much as is in your power.

  You certainly do have the right to post trolling and offensive posts on /f/, but not to flood
  them.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:25 No.1951280

  >>1951276
  >In short, I don't respect the naive bubble you want to remain in with vain entertainment.

  I see, so you resort to violence then.

  Glad we made that clear!

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:27 No.1951283

  >>1951276
  Like I said, zitgeist-chan arrogantly despises the very purpose of /f/

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:28 No.1951284

  >>1951283
  I know, I'm just having a little bit of fun.

  It feels almost a little cruel, but still enjoyable!

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:29 No.1951285

  >>1951276
  You are resorting to violence. Not covert violence, by the way, you are literally destroying our
  society as much as is in your power.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:30 No.1951286

  >>1951284
  No almost about it. How can you say you are superior to the people living in mansions, again?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:30 No.1951287

  >>1951285
  I told you that asking question would be a lot more fruitful~

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:30 No.1951288

  >>1951275
  If you want to believe zeitgeist is wrong, then it will be wrong or "unproven" as you say.

  I am confident for example I'm doing the right thing when I put up posters which say "make love
  not war".

  Apparently largely what a person's actions is based on is feelings.

  Zeitgeist: the movie's (the first zeitgeist film) war montage at the start of the film is the
  biggest pull on the heart strings I've ever seen.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:34 No.1951289

  >>1951288
  I haven't made up my mind yet. Please do not assume things on my behalf. :)

  All I'm asking is that you prove your statements! Surely you need to be coherent and truthful to
  appeal to our very good sense, yes?

  >I am confident for example I'm doing the right thing

  Yes, I am sure that you do think that.

  Question! If many posters tell you that you're doing the wrong thing, are you still in the right?
  Or does that make you a tyrant?

  (Hmm, we seem to be nearing some sort of conclusion that you might have some violent tendencies
  ...)

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:34 No.1951291

  >>1951288
  Please hurry up! I await your replies warmly!

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:35 No.1951292

  >>1951280
  >>1951285
  submitting zeitgeist flash is not violence lol

  >>1951286
  I don't believe in capitalism (rich towering over the poor), can't you understand that?

  I don't believe in superiority of people, people should use science in regards to decisions
  concerning how we organise our social system. The stock market does no such thing!

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:36 No.1951293

  >>1951292
  Putting up a mansion is not violence lol

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:37 No.1951294

  >>1951289
  putting up posters which say "make love not war" does not make me a tyrant.

  How would it? :S

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:39 No.1951296

  >>1951293
  A mansion in the current social order is violence covertly.

  Practicality I would not define as someone owning a 9 billion room mansion with gold plated
  toilet seats.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:39 No.1951297

  >>1951292
  >submitting zeitgeist flash is not violence lol

  You are not the victim, have you considered that your point of view on this matter is not shared
  by others?

  I think you should check your privilege!

  >I don't believe in capitalism (rich towering over the poor), can't you understand that?

  I am sorry, there have already been other ideologies that address that issue, how is yours better?

  I await your replies warmly.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:41 No.1951301

  >>1951294
  You are covering our posters with your propaganda.

  You say, Wait! my propaganda is good and healthy! You don't believe me? Then SUCK IT."

  What do your posts have to do with love?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:41 No.1951302

  >>1951296
  >Practicality I would not define as someone owning a 9 billion room mansion with gold plated
  toilet seats.

  Hyperbole. That aside, you still have not proven your statement. Merely explained that you were
  not a scientist of any sort.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:41 No.1951304

  >>1951294
  Do learn to read my good chap!

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:42 No.1951305

  >>1951297
  Besides alluding to the idea that "submitting zeitgeist flash is not violence", you're still yet
  to convince me of that idea.

  Trade societies are built on the rich towering over the poor. TRADE SOCIETIES, as in any society
  that includes ownership or property. Communism is still a TRADE society.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:42 No.1951307

  I await your replies warmly~!

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:44 No.1951309

  >>1951301
  ad hominem fallacy,

  I would say a poster which says "make love not war" is to do with love?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:45 No.1951310

  >>1951305
  Hehe, that is where you lose.

  You assume that I was talking to you as a method to appeal to you?

  >Trade societies are built on the rich towering over the poor. TRADE SOCIETIES, as in any society
  that includes ownership or property. Communism is still a TRADE society.

  I am sorry, are you trying to explain the difference in ideology, or your ideology as an
  explanation of economies, or just pure opinion.
  Please clarify!

  I await your replies warmly~

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:46 No.1951312

  >>1951309
  I am sorry, but that is not a ad hominem.

  Please revise and correct. (hehe)

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:46 No.1951313

  >>1951302
  Basically you can't understand what I'm saying, which is why you keep saying what I say is
  "unproven". you don't want zeitgeist to be proven to be true or false.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:47 No.1951314

  Please reply faster~
  I await your replies warmly~

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:49 No.1951315

  >>1951313
  But sir, I have not seen one piece of proof so far.

  You shouldn't be so quick to judge someone that is interested in what you have to say?

  > you don't want zeitgeist to be proven to be true or false.

  Wait! Isn't that your job to do so?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:49 No.1951316

  >>1951310
  I don't take your comment seriously, if you want to "win" in a debate with me then I immediately
  will think that you want to be ignorant.

  which you are alluding to: ignorance.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:50 No.1951317

  >>1951313
  And surely, if you can't explain your ideology in a manner that is understandable to the masses,
  it would be a good bet to assume that that is a rather huge oversight!

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:51 No.1951318

  >>1951316
  But now you're just rude to people that simply want to learn from you and your great ideology.

  Oh no, this is exactly the sort of thing an evangelist should not do!

  I await your replies warmly.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:52 No.1951319

  >>1951316
  Please do not give up, maybe you will find some way to appeal to the masses.

  That is until someone starts asking questions, I guess?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:52 No.1951320

  >>1951317
  >>1951315
  the arguments are already in the flash content I submit. Saying I have no proof over and over
  while dismissing my reasoning doesn't make me listen to you :)

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:54 No.1951322

  >>1951320
  But sir, the flash doesn't have prove either.

  You're making a circular argument!

  Which is another fallacy!

  I await your replies warmly~

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:55 No.1951324

  >>1951319
  I haven't given up, I've got a tonne of posters to put up, and there's plenty of zeitgeist
  lectures flash movies.

  I don't take you seriously as you dismiss my reasoning and desperately demand proof for what I
  say.

  You don't want zeitgeist to be right :)

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)06:56 No.1951325

  >>1951320
  words != proof

  Show me a study, or some research, or any scientific work,, with a reputable name attached to it.

  >Peter Joseph doesn't count

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:56 No.1951326

  >>1951320
  >while dismissing my reasoning doesn't make me listen to you :)

  Tut tut, young sir, consider what I've told you earlier.

  Here's a tip; it's not an argument to appeal to you. It's an argument to embarrass you. Surely a
  smart fellow like you could deduce that already?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:57 No.1951328

  100 GET!

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)06:57 No.1951329

  >>1951324
  >desperately demand proof for what I say.
  >prove me wrong

  Pick one.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:57 No.1951330

  >>1951328
  damn it

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)06:58 No.1951332

  >>1951287
  You are a fool, and I am a fool for listening to you.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:58 No.1951333

  >>1951322
  >>1951325
  any argument or evidence that is pro-zeitgeist you will be dismissive of because you want it to
  be wrong.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)06:59 No.1951334

  >>1951333
  How can you say that? You haven't given any.

  And anyway, how would it justify you spamming /f/?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)06:59 No.1951335

  >>1951326
  ad hominem is still not an argument.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:00 No.1951336

  "The word cult in current popular usage is a pejorative term for a new religious movement or
  other group whose beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre by the larger society."
  - Wikipedia

  You see that, Zeitgeist fags? You're a cult if we* say you're a cult, not by defining yourself as
  one. And we* say you're a cult, so go be a cult somewhere else you stupid motherfuckers.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:00 No.1951337

  you are all idiots for feeding the troll

  sage this newfags

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:01 No.1951338

  >>1951334
  Well, and from this point on he'll just repeat himself.

  Anyway, I think I've taught everyone how to make zeitgeistchan look like a fool, and I've had my
  fun, so I should slag off now. Ta!

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:01 No.1951339

  >>1951337
  Oh how I wish he were a troll.

  Check the facebook page of his I posted in >>1951188 and you'll see.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:03 No.1951341

  >>1951334
  I can't argue against your ignorance.

  I've never seen an actual critical or logical argument against zeitgeist. Never.

  only ad hominem, slander and such.

  You don't want zeitgeist to be right because that means the whole market social system is totally
  ridiculous, which I know it is.

  But hey, just keep saying to yourself that the burden of proof TOTALLY relies on me and you don't
  have to lift a finger.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:04 No.1951343

  >>1951341
  >But hey, just keep saying to yourself that the burden of proof TOTALLY relies on me and you
  don't have to lift a finger.

  This needs to be a meme, laughing my ass off.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:04 No.1951345

  >>1951339
  you don't know the lengths some people go to troll.

  he could just think EVERY HOME IS A PRISON or he every night he could just be DOWN THE PUB

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:05 No.1951346

  >>1951341
  >keep saying to yourself that the burden of proof TOTALLY relies on me and you don't have to lift
  a finge
  So... you just want us to take what you say as gospel? Like, I dunno... religion? Or North Korea?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:05 No.1951347

  >>1951345
  Well it could be a troll, after all its just a namefag.

  Doesn't matter, I got to sharpen my blade on him.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:06 No.1951348

  85 posts. Zeitgeist flash.

  Fuck you guys are stupid, you need to spend more time on /a/ or /v/. Shitposting 101: HIDE AND
  REPORT.

  fucking morons.

  I for one agree with some aspects of what zeitgeist stands for, but if the shit bugs you, fucking
  ignore it.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:06 No.1951349

  He's not a troll in that he's being insincere about zeitgeist, but zeitgeist-chan is a troll in
  that his objective is to annoy everyone as much as possible.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:06 No.1951350

  >>1951336

  if zeitgeist is a cult, then report it to anti-cult groups if you're so concerned.

  Rickross forums were plagued with people who wanted zeitgeist to be a cult. the forum wasn't
  fooled.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:08 No.1951352

  >>1951348
  >HIDE AND REPORT.
  I report every zeitgeist thread I see. I reported this one when it only a couple of replies.

  As for hiding, do you use an extension for this? Because I'd very much like it too. Threads on
  /f/ don't seem to work like normal ones.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:09 No.1951353

  >>1951349
  Oh you mean this is sort of false flag like?

  Eh, I don't really see the point, it's still going to be a niche movement after all. There is no
  point supporting it because it is too small, and no point being against it because it is too
  small.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:09 No.1951354

  >>1951348
  No one is complaining about the ideals of the zeitgeist movement, except as a way to ridicule the
  poster. We are only complaining about his behavior.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:11 No.1951356

  >>1951352
  I really hope this garbage is a bannable offense.

  Why can't he fag it up on youtube like other cult fanatics instead of spamming /f/?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:11 No.1951357

  >>1951354
  ad hominem still isn't appealing.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:11 No.1951358

  >>1951347
  exactly DOESN'T MATTER

  you react, he wins its a simple as that,

  Stop feeling him and ignore the posts,

  he will only post 4 a day and if it really annoys you then just post more flash over the top.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:13 No.1951359

  >>1951358
  one way or another, ignorant people are going to react irrationally towards the zeitgeist
  movement's ideals and its members.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:14 No.1951360

  >>1951358
  You actually made me consider something interesting

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:15 No.1951363

  >>1951352
  Should they be reported as spam or rules violation?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:16 No.1951364

  >>1951356

  it's been banned here as "spam" (junk).

  Yet I know zeitgeist hasn't been looked into, Anonymous and moot WANT zeitgeist to be junk,
  communist propaganda or what have you so they can personally believe they're banning garbage.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:16 No.1951365

  >>1951358
  I've been keeping an eye on him. Doesn't matter if he gets his replies or not, he posts his four
  god-damn flashes damn near every day.

  I tried ignoring it. He's been going for months now.

  Fucks sake, it's only 12% of the board space, too.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:16 No.1951366

  >>1951359
  and this matters how,

  /f/ is for the enjoyment of flash, and I really like this board and posting what I like as well
  and enjoying others flash

  Create a website, a blog, a forum or even your own image board for this stuff, if you want to
  create awareness. Be creative and be proactive in contributing if you really care about spreading
  a positive message,

  Don't worry next time I come round again I'll only remind you of this again

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:17 No.1951367

  >>1951356
  Takes more effort to make an account.

  Eh, then again I always view comments of a flash before clicking on the flash itself. Doubt
  anyone else does any different.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:17 No.1951369

  >>1951365
  ad hominem still isn't valid.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:20 No.1951370

  >>1951366
  I don't submit to being banned censored deleted and so forth.

  I have my own personal awareness, if this is controversial awareness then that makes it
  interesting.

  If /f/ is for entertainment, then yes I do find this entertainment.

>> [_] sage sage 04/22/13(Mon)07:20 No.1951371

  sage

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:21 No.1951373

  >>1951363
  I'm not entirely sure myself.

  He's trying to force his ideas and ideals on a community via posting and reposting, so in that
  sense it's spam.

  But he also violates a fuckton of rules too (globals 9, 10, 14, and 17, /f/'s 1, 3 and 4) so
  there's that too/

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:23 No.1951376

  >>1951364
  Zeitgeist-chan, I really wish you would get it into your head that we HATE YOU, NOT THE ZEITGEIST
  MOVEMENT.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:23 No.1951377

  >>1951373
  Either way, I've tried reporting it as both, neither seem to get it removed.

  Join the current thread on /q/: >>>/q/558208

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:24 No.1951378

  >>1951366
  besides particular anonymous on 4chan trying to stalk my activity on the internet (ad hominem),

  Some people are trying the same thing because of my other personal awareness and they call it
  "spam" among the other slanderous labels.

  There's always resistance regarding zeitgeist movement awareness so why not ironically submit it
  to where it will be most resisted?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:24 No.1951379

  >>1951370
  yeah well i get to go to a funeral on wednesday, I get to put up with being bullshitted around
  pretty much for the rest of my life and have to work and support myself like I always have and
  you get to do nothing and be proud. I hope you're happy. And yes you know who I am.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:26 No.1951381

  >>1951373
  I've never reported someone before. I guess nobody has pissed me off enough to in the way this
  guy does.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:27 No.1951382

  >>1951376
  ad hominem

  >>1951379
  I am sorry about the funeral, yet I am not "doing nothing" as I would imagine spreading messages
  like "make love not war" is a nice thing to do.

  I don't take pride in the idea of people working to support themselves as I believe in
  cooperation, not competition.

  *SAD FACE*

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:30 No.1951384

  >>1951382
  dude its bullshit and condescending seriously.

  You say this and make this message in such a hate filled way.

  And yes this is hate, it is provoking people in a kind of way in which is for your own personal
  benefit.

  It's hypocritical and I and fucking fed up with it.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:30 No.1951385

  >>1951381
  >>1951377

  Maybe it's a way to get people desensitized to grassroots movements.

  Then again, I guess anythings possible, best keep a logical and coolheaded approach to everything
  as always.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:31 No.1951387

  >>1951384
  wanting cooperation instead of competition is not selfish.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:31 No.1951388

  >>1951384
  Yeah, and we did point out that his actions are inherently violent. Either he doesn't care(isn't
  smart enough to), or is just trolling.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:32 No.1951389

  >>1951387
  what and you think you are really going to achieve this by aggravating people?

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:33 No.1951390

  >>1951388
  the flash that I submit is not violent.

  take the gore flash movies (embedded video)

  or the trick flashes which make loud noise and quickly flashing frames.

  ad hominem again by the way.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:33 No.1951391

  >>1951389
  Like I said, could be a false flag, a troll, or just someone thats really really stupid.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:34 No.1951392

  It seems to me the main concern is breaking global rules 9, 10, 11, and 14 (proxies), as well as
  6.

  I'll try writing a copypasta to sage with and encourage anons to report. Does anyone think that
  won't be a good idea?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:34 No.1951393

  >142 replies
  WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN HERE
  I'm pretty sure noone is stupid enough to think zeitgeist is a cult, but that's not the point
  here. The point is that this shit still isn't wanted on /f/. Zeitfag pls just go.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:35 No.1951394

  >>1951389
  People are aggravating themselves, if they see one of my posters that say "make love not war" and
  get arrogated, how can I take that seriously?

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:36 No.1951395

  >>1951392
  Hm? I think its better that everyone is trained with the proper knowledge to ignore him.

  Reporting him does nothing in the long term, though we should find out if his ISP uses dynamic
  IPs or not, if not, getting him IP banned would be useful.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:37 No.1951396

  >>1951391
  ad hominem fallacy.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:38 No.1951398

  >>1951392
  I was considering just replying to every zeitgeist flash with 'dolan pls'.

  Shit, I even made a trip for it: #.c4-iU-P comes out as !2QDOLANZ/Q, I thought the 2Q was
  somewhat relevant

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:39 No.1951399

  >>1951395
  about 6 preeminent times have come my way for submitting zeitgeist.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:39 No.1951401

  >>1951398
  haha

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:40 No.1951402

  >>1951394
  its condescension,
  If you are meaningful in what you promote then why devalue your message by replying in the first
  place.

  I know you're not naive enough to know this effect on people.

  You need to stop this because you are capable of so much more than this behavior.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:41 No.1951403

  >>1951395
  I agree, science is communism and science is religion. Be proper educated and ignore zeitgeist.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:41 No.1951404

  >>1951393
  People started to voice their hate toward this guy and about getting rid of him and his spam.

  >>1951377
  Thank you for putting effort into stopping this guy and showing me that thread.

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:42 No.1951405

  >>1951402
  I am sorry, but I'm FUCKING worried about people.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:42 No.1951406

  >>1951402
  Yeah, I'm starting to think that this is a troll.

  Notice the increase in frequency of replies to start people responding again.

  I think I'll have this filed under troll.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:43 No.1951407

  copypasta below:

  /f/riends, please don't respond to Zeitgeist-chan. The best thing to do is report his threads and
  ignore his rude behavior.

  He has repeatedly and deliberately broken global rules 9 (ban evasion), 10 (flooding), 14
  (proxies), as well as rule 6 (importance of quality and community).

  With your help, we can defend ourselves from this menace.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:45 No.1951408

  >>1951407
  Hmm, you should change your pasta.

  Or not use it at all, I think people should learn how to ignore trolls instead of being told not
  to.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:45 No.1951410

  >>1951405
  You can act upon this in far better ways, and I have already tried to help you and you just wont
  listen.

>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 04/22/13(Mon)07:46 No.1951411

  >>1951407
  Saved thanks. Have some reheated pasta:

  A nigger, a Jew and a grossly obese Mexican man walk into a gay bar. They approach a cum-gargling
  faggot

  with a 2-inch long, always-flaccid penis using a laptop at a table.

  "You wanna come back to our place?" the nigger asks the faggot. "You can toss my Mexican friend's
  rancid

  herpes-and-shit-covered salad and jerk my Jewish friend's wart-and-pimple-covered penis while I
  ram my

  giant unlubed nigger-cock into your gaping oft-fucked asshole."

  "Literally nothing in the world would make me happier," says the faggot. "But first I need to
  start a zeitgeist thread on /f/. It will just take a moment."

>> [_] zeitgeist 04/22/13(Mon)07:46 No.1951412

  >>1951407
  censorship, guaranteed ignorance.

>> [_] Anonymous 04/22/13(Mon)07:47 No.1951413

  >>1951411
  but yeah I've got to go eat.

  Take care all, nice talk.

  Thanks for the entertainment, ZC.



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