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>> [_] Anon 2047667 I smell Zeitgeist
>> [_] Anon 2047668 You just had to do it eh ?
>> [_] zeitgeist 2047671 >># labelling something as "Zeitgeist" instead of considering the argument.
>> [_] Anon 2047672 >># forgot to sage

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[_] Anon 1943824
>> [_] Anon 1943837 Fuck off with your Nazi conspiracy theory shit, we don't give a shit, and it's just a waste of a flash space.
>> [_] sage zeitgeist spammer 1943840 >># ok I'll fuck off then :(
>> [_] Anon 1943854 >># Zeitgeist is actually a spirit of the time leadership theory, which makes sense in /pol/ but not in /f/ so take your shit and get out like this fine gentleman said.
>> [_] Anon 1944016 >># fuck you faggot we don't want him either, why do you think he's here where no one throws him out >># ARE YOU SUCH A RECKLESS FAGGOT THAT YOU REALLY DON'T SEE WHY YOU MAGIC SUPER SCIENCE CITY WOULD NEVER WORK?
>> [_] sage zeitgeist spammer 1944048 >># I've never seen an actual explanation as to why science doesn't work, no. People say things like "science has never been tested" or "science doesn't work" when reffering to zeitgeist. Yet that doesn't explain anything to me. What I find is that market advocates care so much about cost cutting to save money so they don't care about what enables technical efficiency. That and endless appeal to authority fallacies and ad hominem fallacies, please look up logical fallacies debates to understand what I mean.
>> [_] Anon 1944056 What you're referring to is actually pseudoscience, bullshit justified by saying "It's science, so it must be true!"
>> [_] Anon 1944063 In fact, everything in these videos is either (political, rhetoric-heavy) observations on our current situation, or unfounded conjecture. There is a reason TZM is relegated to the dim corners of the internet: it absolutely crumbles over even cursory scrutiny.
>> [_] Anon 1944072 That's an argument zeitfags fall back on a lot. "Science." It must work, because science. There can be no unforeseen problems because science. If there are, how will they be solved? With science of course! Science, to the plebian Zeitmind, is a cosmic force, a magic wand that can whisk us away from actually having to deal with things as a matter of course not because it is a set of ideas useful for obtaining solutions, but simply because it is "Science!!!!!!"
>> [_] sage sage 1944105 sage

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[_] Anon 1796049
>> [_] Anon 1796050 10/10
>> [_] Anon 1796063 0/10
>> [_] Anon 1796069 >># lol
>> [_] Anon 1796204 "destroyed most of the arable land" [citation needed]
>> [_] Anon 1796223 >no nuclear power No sir, don't want it. Excuse me, while you try to make a tiny-tiny 3 mile super-green paradise, I will be riding my LFTR powered space elevator to catch a privatized space jet to my asteroid mining facility.
>> [_] Anon 1796228 Source
>> [_] Anon 1796229 SOIL IS THE ENEMY
>> [_] Anon 1796245 Sounds good in theory, but who's gonna do it?

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>> [_] Anon 1752973 wtf are they talking about?
>> [_] Anon 1752976 >># A world that uses science to manage society instead of, politics, religion, or markets.
>> [_] Anon 1753014 >># It sounds great until you realize the methodology actually unfeasible. Half the technologies they've presented as still less than adequate for mass production and reliance and aren't growing in efficiency at the rates required. The other half, especially some in other parts of this series, just don't exist in proper form. It's like a mish-mash of every "visions of the future" Popular Science volume from the 60s and 70s, just short the personal jetpacks and flying cars. And none of this takes into account the actual feelings of the people who would have to live in this hypothesis.
>> [_] Anon 1753020 >># And I still think their cities are either a waste of space or a under-utilization of space, where not absolutely Zeerust-ugly. That is, unless most of the dwelling region is subterranean; that's always cool. If you want to see a thing of beauty, scan the skyline of a major city: some buildings not too very different from one another, but each one very unalike, a testament of human ambition and diversity. These cities? visually underwhelming hub caps. Seriously, I want my personal jetpack.
>> [_] Anon 1753073 >># this is the ideas and social structure of Jacque Fresco, the creator of Sociocyberneering, the idea of using technology from a capitalist market to create a perfect society where machines drive each other and grow all the food. The result of said society would be humanity surpassing in the arts and knowledge, letting humans expand the mind while machines do the labor. again, it is impossible to actually make this now, but it is a cool design if humanity could do it again.

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