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[_] powder keg Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)12:48 No.2474550
Let's see if we get the same results
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>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)12:50 No.2474552
>>2474550
Why is bill nye such a fedora?
Why can't he go back to being funny and making movies instead of yelling at baptists?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)12:52 No.2474557
American "nerd" culture is just as unwholesome.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)12:58 No.2474560
>>2474552
Too busy saving the world friend
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)12:59 No.2474561
>>2474552
>>2474557
He isn't incorrect, though. The rate at which schools are limiting scientific teaching is
alarming and as a result America is becoming the laughing stock of the developed world due to its
ridiculously large population of sky-fairy believing dimwits. Children don't need that sort of
indoctrination at such a young age, especially if it means they'll grow up into incompetent,
scientifically illiterate degenerates that won't be able to cope as our civilizations develop.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:01 No.2474565
>>2474561
*tips fedora*
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:01 No.2474566
>>2474561
I think the children will be alright. They just won't be excellent.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:03 No.2474568
what's the point in teaching evolution in school, when you spend just as much time saying it
doesn't apply to humans? literally the only justification for saying all races are equal is
through divine creation.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:04 No.2474569
>>2474565
holy shit someone is expressing distaste about America's religion based society
gotta be a fedora
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:05 No.2474570
>>2474552
>it's totally okay to brainwash children into denying facts and dumbing them down because that's
what reddit hates!
just because atheists are loudmouthed and annoying doesn't mean that they are wrong. creationists
are utterly destroying USA and you put up with it because LOLFEDORAS AM I RIGHT
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:06 No.2474572
>>2474561
I don't think teaching kids about jesus is gonna make people stupid.
Telling them that science doesn't exist and that the world is 5000 years old is.
Not every christian is the westbourogh baptist church.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:07 No.2474575
>>2474570
>creationists are utterly destroying USA
Creationists are the only ones who contribute to charities and food banks.
They can't be destroying something if they are the only ones taking care of it.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:09 No.2474577
>>2474575
way to make a generalization faggor
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:09 No.2474578
>>2474565
Because all atheists are neckbeard faggots. No, I happen to realize the dangers of an uneducated
group of people, and as such I voice my distaste for religion as I've seen first-hand what it's
done to families and friends -- mine in particular. I'm not a vocal militant, I'm actually quite
docile, but the second I speak out about it I am labeled a fedora-tipping faggot because my
interests are for the future of America. Jesus fucking Christ you people are retarded.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:09 No.2474579
>>2474570
>creationists are utterly destroying USA
what do creationists have in common with corporate oligarchies and anticompetitive consumerism?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:10 No.2474580
>>2474577
says the guy who thinks all christians are un educated rednecks
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:12 No.2474583
>>2474578
why is using religion to moralize the stupid masses bad for america? wouldn't that facilitate the
perpetuation of the american people by steering them away from self-destructive, decadent
behaviors?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:12 No.2474584
>>2474580
What the fuck are you talking about. I went to school with Catholics that were all pretty chill.
All I'm saying is there are tons of people who aren't religious that contribute to charities and
food banks. Faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:12 No.2474585
>>2474572
That isn't my point. Teaching children about religion is fine if it's done in moderation. Just
keep it out of public education and focus on real science. After that, I don't give a shit what
you tell your child so long as it isn't drawing from my tax dollars through the school system.
The main issue is the group of people refusing to teach proper science IN THE CLASSROOM over
religious bullshit. Other than that, I really don't care what you believe in. I'd rather have an
educated Christian or Muslim than a retarded one.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:13 No.2474587
>4chan, the festering petri dish of all that is ungodly and secular having a heated disagreement
about creationism
easy lel
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:14 No.2474588
>>2474587
>guaranteed_responses.swf
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:14 No.2474589
>>2474585
>trying to save children's souls from damnation is fine if it's done in moderation
Now who's being illogical?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:14 No.2474590
>>2474580
He never said Christians, he said Creationists.
Creationists are the ones denying core scientific concepts because of faith, whatever that faith
may be. Being Christian doesn't make you a creationist or vice versa(though there is a huge
overlap)
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:15 No.2474591
>>2474561
How about we teach half of the kids that god exists, and the other half that he doesn't.
That way we can have people who want to do good deeds, and the other half can be the tech people.
Or maybe we can tell them that god used evolution as his tool?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:16 No.2474593
>>2474561
Evolution is just the product of god's guiding hand.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:16 No.2474594
>>2474585
>people refusing to teach proper science IN THE CLASSROOM over religion
Texas is gonna be texas
even other religious people shake their heads at the shit the american south does.
>>2474591
Are you implying that science and religion can co-exist and aren't the antithesis of each-other?
are you insane anon?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:18 No.2474595
>>2474568
This. I mean wtf.
Everyone is equal, also animals and humans evolve over time and the less evolved die out.
BUT that doesn't apply to people because that would be racist!
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:19 No.2474596
>denial of evolution is unique to the United States
glad to know that ISIS and al qaeda aren't religious extremists
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:20 No.2474597
>>2474594
Texan here. I dunno about Hank Hill land, but the Catholic high school I went to made it clear
that evolution did not conflict with its mission statement in any way.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:20 No.2474598
>>2474569
>Not understanding the concept of fedora
Anyone who feels superior because of their lack of belief in something is someone who tips
fedoras.
Ex:Santa clause isn't real. *tips fedora*
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:21 No.2474600
>thinking science solves religious problems
>thinking religion solves scientific problems
>nobody seems to understand what should be common sense
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:21 No.2474601
>>2474596
They have evolved beyond the need for mental stability.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:22 No.2474602
The only reason I believe in free will is because I choose (presumably) to believe in a god.
I can't see free will existing without some kind of god.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:23 No.2474604
>>2474583
religion doesn't have monopoly on ethics. altruistic behaviour is built into each and every one
of us, except for sociopaths and the like. it's how the human race has survived.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:23 No.2474605
>>2474600
Welcome to the insane asylum we call Earth. Enjoy your stay.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:23 No.2474606
>>2474589
I don't follow. The point I'm making is that the child is being placed into a corner and
force-fed religion without having a choice in the matter. Let them take some lessons if they
must, but wait until they are older and can make personalized choices about their faith or
lack-thereof.
It's not a point of being illogical if you let the child decode for himself whether he WANTS or
even BELIEVES in trying to appease a selfish, lustful God just to feel safe at night while
worrying about their every decision that might affect their status of "damnation."
>>2474594
And unfortunately I live in San Antonio. At least I went to Austin for schooling, the fucking
free-thinking capital of the goddamn South. Boy did I dodge a bullet there...
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:24 No.2474607
>>2474584
That's called paying taxes, you statist fuck.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:24 No.2474609
Oh, /f/. Remember what we learned in bible study? Who like evolution, Jehovah or Satan?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:25 No.2474610
>>2474565
really though? People will just slap that shit on anything they disagree with now won't they
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:26 No.2474611
>>2474609
Well god was the one who made the serpent craw on his belly instead of growing legs, so I'm gonna
go with god.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:26 No.2474613
>>2474602
That's frightening. You're essentially admitting that without a god you'd be subject to the
primal fates without making a decision for yourself? That you couldn't be held responsible for
your actions unless there's a divine entity there to hold your hand? Scary stuff, anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:27 No.2474616
For the love of Nye, kill this thread.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:28 No.2474618
>>2474605
I mean if we all just sat down for a second, shut up, gave the issue some thought, we should all
be able to realize that we are each not disrupting out beliefs by holding different ones but
instead by choosing to argue over it. These Evolution vs. Creationism debates are extremely
pointless and unproductive.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:28 No.2474619
>>2474594
Watch some intelligent design documentary's.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:30 No.2474621
>>2474616
http://i.imgur.com/mR7uXjp.jpg
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:31 No.2474622
>>2474619
I was being sarcastic anon.
Intelligent design is the only intelligent way to think. (pun intended)
Science isn't able to prove why existence exists without saying "It just happened"
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:31 No.2474623
Religion was useful as a tool to educate masses not to fucking kill each other in the ancient
times, when proper states didn't exist and as such it was hard to achieve centralised control
over people's behavior. Because of that, religion was invented as a way to indoctrinate people by
threatening them with punishment after they die as it was impossible to dispense punishment while
they lived.
Nowadays, that kind of indoctrination is no longer needed because thewre are proper powers
controlling territories and populations well enough that they can establish police and enforce
law this way.
It doesn't make religion any less useful as a tool of bringing moral norms to the masses, but it
sure as fuck should not be used in place of proper education based on science. That's the main
point Bill is raising: Religion is not a tool to teach people how the world works, but rather a
tool to teach them how to behave properly.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:35 No.2474625
>>2474587
you can thank /pol/ for this
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:37 No.2474628
>>2474623
So Islam's and American Christianity's historic hatred of differing lifestyles and women is
considered peaceful and morally secure? I'm not sure I agree with that, anon. And before you say
"that isn't the norm" I want to say that it is historically accurate and has been enforced in the
past as socially required. The Bible has plenty of jurisdictions over the ownership of slaves and
mistreatment of women, and the Islamic state still treats it's female citizens like trash. Those
willing to argue against that are foolish and forget the origins of their very own religion. The
fact that they keep changing their religious tendencies is telltale of their efforts to bend
religion to modern norms, rather than remain entwined by the bounds of their traditional, stone
age laws.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:39 No.2474629
>>2474596
I believe he was talking about developed countries.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:44 No.2474635
>>2474604
hardly. the human race survived through ingroup bias and exclusionary practices.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:46 No.2474638
>>2474613
no. he's saying without a divine god, free will would only exist as an illusion, and all actions
would ALWAYS have a self-centered origin. I can see how you're confused, since you didn't seem to
think about his post at all
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:52 No.2474644
>>2474595
it would be racism if you were saying that 'the' human race actually consists of more than just
one race, which is wrong of course
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:53 No.2474648
>>2474628
You gotta understand that all main religions were founded a lot of time ago. That was a time when
lack of efficient means of production, storage and transportation of goods meant that everyone
had to do their part. That made every of society develop different classes. Nowadays, that sort
of divide is much less prevalent, both because of there simply being more people and because of
technological advance, which makes certain principles instilled in society's culture by the "holy
texts" obsolete such as, for example, the whole Islamic divide between males and females' roles
in the family and such. I'm not very knowledgeable in theology, but the basic things like "Don't
kill, Don't steal, Don't vote Al Gore" are pretty much the same in most religions, and the fact
that everything surrounding those principles is outdated doesn't mean that the principles
themselves are outdated. Every single modern convention of Human Rights and such is based on
these principles in some way.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:54 No.2474650
>>2474648
Sorry for taking too long to respond, by the way, had to shorten the post considerably to fit the
character limit.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)13:55 No.2474651
>>2474648
You won't fool me with your fedora snares.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:04 No.2474657
>>2474650
No need to apologize heh this conversation will only last as long as the thread remains active
anyway so really in the end we'll all go back to watching lolicatgirls or whatever else pops up
afterwards.
1/2.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:04 No.2474660
>>2474606
>Austin
What's it like sucking 20 dicks every morning, for breakfast, you liberal faggot?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:05 No.2474663
>>2474657
I agree that the basic principles might be based loosely upon the ethical rights of human beings
as a whole, but really the source of them isn't from the religious pretexts dating only several
thousand years ago. The younger religions we keep appointing as the baseline for modern morality
are actually predated by many more thousands of years by human interaction that has molded and
shaped moral and ethical decisions made by the human species. It's no surprise that when religion
came along it adopted these basic laws and used them as a grounds to establish a blanket
control-state for everyone to follow.
2/3*
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:06 No.2474665
If any of you faggots actually believed in the Bible, you wouldn't come on 4chan.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:06 No.2474666
>>2474660
Don't forget, Houston's better :3
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:07 No.2474668
>>2474663
The problem is that they have been misconstrued as time has provided ample subjugation for the
laws to "evolve" in a way. What once was acceptable is deemed not so in today's world. As times
change, so too will the laws of religions until they aren't even recognizable or even comparable
to their origins. The whole thing is a giant hyperbole for human's creating their own religious
guidelines.
3/3
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:10 No.2474673
>>2474660
Considering the Gay Parade only comes to town once in a blue moon (which I never attend), I
wouldn't know.
But please, continue to berate me for my choice in schooling. It's not like the Cockrell School
of Engineering at UT is a top-tier nationally-ranked college or anything. No, wouldn't want to
actually apply myself to a higher standard of education or anything.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:12 No.2474675
> a scientist explains that creationism is silly
> everyone loses their shit and start screaming "fedoras" and "atheism"
What the fuck, 4chan?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:13 No.2474677
>>2474673
Well you a condescending one, aren't you? Explains why you're an Atheist.
*Fedora tip*
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:19 No.2474681
>>2474677
Keep it up. You're really painting a good picture.
It's hilarious to see someone chastise another's educational decisions, based solely on the place
they attend college. If I had gone to A&M would you have asked to suck my dick for choosing such
a conservative place to learn? College Station is a cesspool of fundies, but they have a very
decent institution as well. Not quite as well-established or recognized as UT's, but definitely
up there among the others.
Then again I don't bleed maroon. I'm a burnt orange kinda guy.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:21 No.2474686
>>2474675
>scientist
He's more of a science guy m8.
Not a scientist.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:22 No.2474688
>>2474681
>not going to Rice
You're doing it wrong.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:22 No.2474689
>>2474675
the trolling has gone full circle anon. The ride never ends.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:23 No.2474691
>>2474579
Christ, europoors cant possibly imagine what its like to have so many successful companies, and
so much money to buy whatever they want, that is what its like to live in a rich country full of
opportunity, you're just embarrassing yourself when you say shit like this.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:25 No.2474695
>>2474557
But that's completely wrong. American ingenuity and science is why you're typing on a computer
right now. The guy who originally invented the principles we used to start the electronic
revolution was even a gay Brit - who was chemically castrated because of religious bullshit
antigay laws in his country.
Basically you owe everything you love in your life to "nerd culture", including the lives of the
vast majority of people you know. You're welcome for vaccines and efficient agriculture and cars
and every goddamn thing else.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:26 No.2474699
>>2474695
>welcome for vaccines.
oh you mean autism?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:26 No.2474700
>>2474625
/pol/ is like a /b/ that feels the need to smear its shit all over every other board.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:26 No.2474701
>>2474566
America should be excellent though. It's not enough to teach them total shit and just be like
"well they might make it". We have to do better or we're not #1 anymore.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:28 No.2474705
>>2474568
You're an idiot. Everything that is alive is equally a "modern" evolved organism. In order for
you to say a race is superior, the other ones have to all be dead.
Learn science before you try to claim science please.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:31 No.2474710
/f/aggot thread 2014
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:31 No.2474711
>>2474688
I'm not ashamed to admit I didn't apply there because I didn't have the money to. Would have been
nice, though I chose Austin not only for its outstanding engineering program but also because
there's so much to do and see there. I'd rather enjoy my time in college than have nothing to do
but worry about the next exam.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:36 No.2474717
>>2474705
Though it may be more accurate to just point out that "races" are not different enough to be
different species, so it's an irrelevant question to biology.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)14:56 No.2474738
must be an american problem. i never met a person to deny evolution.
>> [_] newfag 08/03/14(Sun)15:06 No.2474746
>>2474686
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye
>not a scientist.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:08 No.2474749
>>2474746
>newfag
Suits you well m8.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:11 No.2474755
ITT: opinions
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:17 No.2474758
>>2474598
No one claimed superiority, you're just a fuckwit spouting memes over and over because you have
nothing better to contribute to an argument here.
Understanding the dangers of not educating the populus is not in any way arrogant or
condescending.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:26 No.2474770
>>2474758
>America is becoming the laughing stock of the developed world due to its ridiculously large
population of sky-fairy believing dimwits.
>they'll grow up into incompetent, scientifically illiterate degenerates that won't be able to
cope as our civilizations develop.
Hurrr, no superiority complex here.
>> [_] Nemeth 08/03/14(Sun)15:37 No.2474781
>>2474746
it say's on the wiki page you sent that he's also a scientist.
Bill Nye the Science Guy, is an American science educator, comedian, television host, actor,
writer, and scientist who began his career as a mechanical engineer at Boeing.
Some anons are just divorced from reality.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:38 No.2474783
>>2474770
No. He is claiming having a religion is not wrong, being retarded about though is wrong. Someone
who learned how to be scientists because they understand how the world works is dramatically
superior intellect to someone who has an art degree and hates science. Its not the fact you have
a religion, its the fact you use it to limit yourself. I personalty believe in god, but anyone
who is saying evolution is not true is fucking outrageous.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:39 No.2474785
damn, u niggaz rly get into it on /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)15:55 No.2474800
>>2474781
That was his point you dense retarded fucking namefag.
Kill yourself.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)16:09 No.2474816
>>2474738
Yes it is mostly just an American problem. We had a conservative religious revival in our
country, and one of their rallying points was to deny evolution. Because we were already the
richest country in the world, the morons can still stick around like little parasites, weakening
the country by teaching their children to grow up stupid and proud of it, but they get away with
it because the host, our country, is so much stronger than them. If it weren't for the rest of us
working so hard, evangelicals would have turned us into a dirt farming theocracy by now. We would
be a failed state like the USSR, maybe a source of cheap labor for Canada.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/03/14(Sun)16:09 No.2474817
>>2474781
typical namefag being as retarded as ever
