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[_] Anon 2009250 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 2009254 oh look some faggot with a high school level understanding of global economics made a flash. waste of time, so stupid it physically injured me.
>> [_] Anon 2009259 tl:dr 'Murika fuck yeah but really anyone who know ANYTHING about history or economics knows that a recession hits every now and then, and is unavoidable.
>> [_] Anon 2009262 >implying that you can't cut spending at all
>> [_] Anon 2009263 Haven't watched it, but from the title alone, I'm guessing it's Zeitgeistfag again. Am I right?
>> [_] Anon 2009273 Education...it's a good thing.
>> [_] Anon 2009292 >># wrong. F.A. Hayek would like a word with you
>> [_] Anon 2009296 The reality is that this will happen ONLY when those who have debt with the USA, have bonds, will not accept US dollars as payment. As the US is one of the only countries in the world that can pay it's debt in it's own currency (US dollars) rather then the equivalent value in local currencies (Euro, Yen, Dong) the US can barrow money infinitely. This is called being the Reserve Currency. Every nation in the world keeps a reserve of US dollars, and accepts them as currency. The reason for this is because major commodities like Oil, are traded exclusively in US dollars. Were a major Commodity be changed to another currency, such as the Euro rather then the Dollar, then the US dollar would lose it's reason for being THE reserve currency. Then the house of cards falls. Not before.
>> [_] Anon 2009307 This thing doesn't even take into account the influence Dethklok has over the economy.
>> [_] Anon 2009317 >># learnt this shit in highschool, when the kaizer ran germany
>> [_] Anon 2009318 >># That's when the world is going to end
>> [_] Anon 2009319 tldw We're all fucked
>> [_] Anon 2009343 yea well im pissed i didnt learn this in highschool, and i was one of the top tier students. i didnt learn how the economy works, how stock market works, i realised this i ncollege and had to go look it all up myself. worthless schooling. woulda been better to teach myself i bet from books
>> [_] Anon 2009351 Government A owes government B money Government B owes government C money Government C owes government A money If A stops paying its bills, B can't pay its bills and C can't pay its bills. This doesn't make any sense, because if every government stops paying its bills, then they gain the income back from their bill payments, and net zero (assuming the payment to income ratio is the same) for all countries. This would only affect countries that have huge payment incomes and very little debts (China), and affect the USA very little, because we gain so much back from not paying bills. What the fuck is China going to do? Invade us and foreclose on the whole country?
>> [_] Anon 2009353 The best thing you can do for yourself is learn to grow food and hunt at this point. Then even if this does happen to resolve itself, you'll still be able to have tasty venison and home grown fruits and vegetables.
>> [_] Anon 2009355 >># no
>> [_] Anon 2009362 >># This guy knows what's up
>> [_] Anon 2009378 /pol/ on /f/ >># Also, you deserve a Nobel Prize.
>> [_] Anon 2009379 >># lol doomsday preppers
>> [_] Anon 2009385 >># It might be a thinly veiled zootgoost flash. it has the same faggy feel to it
>> [_] Anon 2009403 >># I leld
>> [_] Anon 2009407 This thread is full of ignorant children "mehmehmeh government is terrible and I dont want to listen to the truth!!" You guys are the reason we are getting deeper. Educate yourself damn it, PLEASE. >># And you shut up. The best thing you can do is learn off past situations similar to this, and learn to live on less money.
>> [_] Anon 2009418 >># more importantly try not to carry debt particularly on your home, try to buy land outright then join the tinyhouse movement and yes legally any with a mortgage is this>>>>What the fuck is China going to do? Invade us and foreclose on the whole country?
>> [_] Anon 2009425 go ahaed and try china make our day its not like we have highly skilled military and other assets that are valuble to you
>> [_] Anon 2009434 14 trillion.... Ah, the good days!
>> [_] Anon 2009446 >># I would love to see those chinks try to invade us.
>> [_] Anon 2009461 >># QFMFT I hate this "we can't cut spending" BS. Their are billions we give out in aid every year. Not to mention the even larger amount we waste on useless shit at home. I have a friend from Canada who had a book that was pulled and black listed by the Canadian government decades ago. The book was called "A Matter of Spending" and basically showed exactly where everything in the Canadian budget went along with notes by the author talking about how many projects only existed to line people's pockets. The author had a line at the end of the book "Stop laughing Americans, we are only 10% of your population and I know your government does the same thing." It's Impossible to find this book anymore, almost every copy was destroyed by the Canadian government. My friend's copy was lost in a flood.
>> [_] Anon 2009464 U.S national deficit is falling faster than it ever has since the last century, thanks to revenue now being generated by the recovered economy, it will be completely paid off in the next decade or so at this rate. also, this debt is what back US currency, so when the debt is paid off the US currency would also be kinda worthless. (more accurately it will ether be a personal IOU or counterfeit) second even though we now pull in more money that we spend, the US STILL spends more on defense than the next 11 countries combined. we could have made huge cuts defense and STILL be spending more no it than any other country, and have solved the former debt crisis. but no, everybody hates the poor so we can't do something productive, like talk about realistic issues.

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[_] uncle sam has a lot of bills to pay Anon 1813135
>> [_] Anon 1813140 oh joy, the economics spammer is back
>> [_] sage 1813145 >># As always, no explanation as to how it's junk. "Spam is most often considered to be electronic junk mail"
>> [_] Anon 1813147 >># I'm not going to attempt to further define spam, I know it when I see it. But if you want a rough rule of thumb, ask yourself: is anyone on /f/ at all interested in this shit?
>> [_] Anon 1813149 >># Because moot himself agreed that it is and told us to email him if you post it again. End of story, enjoy your incoming ban.
>> [_] Anon 1813151 >># >># Not going to define spam, moot says it's spam. Moot is god.
>> [_] sage sage 1813157 >># It seems like you're not going to reply to my parallel between your reporting attitude and religion.
>> [_] sage sage 1813162 >># I don't ask that question because that's not how "spam" is defined. "Spam" is defined as junk. If it's junk then there needs to be an explanation as to how it's junk, not people FEELING if it is.
>> [_] sage sage 1813164 >># Post what? post something that people FEEL is spam without an explanation as to how it is, that sounds like a religion to me.
>> [_] Anon 1813176 This is actually interesting and somewhat informed, you know. Not zeitgeist or bullcrap like that
>> [_] sage sage 1813182 >># >># Post anything about economics, thinks it's "it" or "zeitgeist spam" or "bullcrap".
>> [_] Anon 1813187 >># >flash talks about resources as the perfect alternative to money >OP has the exact same "define spam based on my extremely loaded questions" bullshit as past zeitgeist threads Yeah, you're not fooling anyone. [spoiler]Samefag.[/spoiler]
>> [_] sage sage 1813197 >># Asking questions is bullshit and to think about the questions is fooling people.
>> [_] sage sage 1813199 >># I actually defined "spam" as junk. That's not a loaded question. I said EXPLAIN how is flash this junk? The burden of proof should be with you, unless you advocate a ban/reporting happy stance. I saw the thread on /q/, no explanation was given and people were calling it "spam". It sounds like "Ad Hominem".
>> [_] Anon 1813208 >So nobody really knows how we will eventually get out of it. I do! I know how the US will settle their debt and thus this "collapse" will be prevented. Wait a few more years... Increasing the value of gold. Then bam, trade gold with (for example) China in return of clearing the debts. The US have so much gold reserves they could easily pay their debt. The only reason why they haven't is because they either 1) are waiting for the value of gold to go up further, 2) think they are too powerful to be forced to ever pay or, 3) know that gold is too valuable a resource to be traded away no matter what.
>> [_] Anon 1813209 I think 2 could be true, but I don't think it's real because even if the US can't be attacked by force, trading can be cut off to the country which will make life there miserable. And the US can't really force a strong (modern) country to do anything either because they know that, thanks to nukes, nobody will win. Even if the US would take over a country they know that their losses would be too great, not to mention the effort it takes to hold power in a resisting nation. If you think that the US can beat the crap of every country in the world, sure it might be true that the US will win in the end but rest assured that both you, your family and everybody you care about WILL die and not enjoy the victory. So the only real reason I believe is 1, they wait. Note that gold doesn't really have to equal their debt measured in US dollars. Gold is gold while USD or EUR or GBP is just currency. So that's how this will end, gold will trade hands.
>> [_] Anon 1813214 But, shhhh, it's a secret... No just kidding, spread the word. You heard it here first, straight from my Swedish brain. Durp. Btw if you are wondering why gold is so damn valuable, just imagine how rare it is. Since the beginning of man kind, ALL gold that has been mined, EVER, can fit inside a 20x20x20 meter cube. Every crown, every jewellery, every coin... everything. 20 cubic-meters. That's not much.
>> [_] sage sage 1813219 >># The concept of money is corrupt or morally perverse since money only requires confidence to exist, according to modern money mechanics. The concept of "trade" is corrupt because an atmosphere of indifference, and cruelty is created because of the competitive nature of the market. There is no paying back of the debt because every since dollar has interest attached to the debt. If you were to pay back all the money in circulation right now, there would be no money in circulation and you'd still owe the bank interest.
>> [_] Anon 1813223 >># no1curr zeitfag
>> [_] Anon 1813224 >># That's actually 8001 cubic metres And i don't think that whatever gold US has is enough to clear the debt...
>> [_] sage sage 1813228 >># "Ad Hominem" fallacy, banning, censorship, reporting, is not a counter argument.
>> [_] Anon 1813231 >># never said it was what I did say is no1curr
>> [_] sage sage 1813233 >># You're lying.
>> [_] Anon 1813238 >># wat >># >That's actually 8001 cubic metres 20x20x20 metres is in fact 20 cubic metres >i don't think that whatever gold US has is enough to clear the debt... I believe it is, time will tell. Gold is more valuable than how much USD it is worth.
>> [_] Anon 1813244 >># >20x20x20=20
>> [_] sage sage 1813246 >># Quote: "What, then, makes these instruments — checks, paper money, and coins — acceptable at face value in payment of all debts and for other monetary uses? Mainly, it is the CONFIDENCE people have that they will be able to exchange such money for other financial assets and for real goods and services whenever they choose to do so." -Modern Money Mechanics Money is a religion, unless confidence and faith are different and unless it's not corrupt to consider natural systems are externalities.
>> [_] Anon 1813249 >># It is 8001. >20m times 20m >400m² >400m² times 20m >8001m³ Metres are just variables >># Leave zeitfag Money is just another trading good, and it shall always be so
>> [_] Anon 1813251 It's over 8 thouSAAAAANNNDDD!!!!
>> [_] sage sage 1813254 >># "Ad Hominem" fallacy, banning, censorship, reporting, isn't a counter argument. When you encounter your limits to debate do you then think the "Ad Hominem" fallacy is okay?
>> [_] Anon 1813256 >># "Fallacy" fallacy. Ignoring one's arguments because a fallacy was included somewhere, isn't a counter argument. When you encounter your limits to debate do you then think the "Fallacy" fallacy is okay?
>> [_] sage sage 1813257 >># Trade is corrupt because sharing is nicer than propety. It enables people to have a casual disregard for others. If you don't like sharing then don't share your thoughts on the internet consider your thoughts as your own intellectual property(TM).
>> [_] sage sage 1813259 >># You don't counter my argument you give a throwaway line: "Money is just another trading good, and it shall always be so" ignoring the fact that money and trade is corrupt because of the social atmoshphere of indifference and cruetly that is generated because of the free market. Unless being uncaring is good and you can prove this with science.
>> [_] Anon 1813262 >># Yes, but we can't trust someone else with the products of our hard work, even if they trust us with theirs, because they might just take their products and ours away at any given time, for personal gain. This thought, idea and/or thesis is property of anon(TM)(R)(C). Feel free to duplicate and distribute, as long as credit is given to the author.
>> [_] sage sage 1813264 >># What do you suggest? Communism? We've all seen how that turned out...
>> [_] Anon 1813266 >># >># What? 1 cubic metre is per definition 1 metre in height, 1 metre in width and 1 metre in depth. And how you get 400*20 to 8001 I don't have a clue. fort knox in the us holds 4581 tonnes of gold. in mid-2012 that much is valued at about 234923 millions USD the value of gold has increased by 600% since the year 2000. since less and less is being mined it is not unreasonable to think its value will continue to rise its funny since gold was worth about the same for like 50 years before that
>> [_] Anon 1813267 if you're gonna get banned and evade, at lease make it less obvious, same loaded questions with weak defense of arguements, exact same method of ripping videos, down to the quality even >tl;dr: enjoy your ban
>> [_] Anon 1813268 >># >1 x 1 x 1 = 1 >Therefore 20 x 20 x 20 = 20 orly? Also, 8001 because lol
>> [_] Anon 1813270 >># ah you are just pulling my leg, i thought you was confusing cubic meters for something else there for a second.
>> [_] Anon 1813273 >># >"fuck off" >OMG FALLACY lol fuck off