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[_] The Racist Tree Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:37 No.2574230
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>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:38 No.2574232
>>2574230
I feel bad for the Racist Tree.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:40 No.2574235
i don't get it
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:41 No.2574237
>>2574232
Pressuring people into your point of view is never a good thing.
Poor Tree, not being able to be himself.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:46 No.2574239
>>2574235
Notice how the flash constantly refers to the tree as racist, every single time it is referred to
it is referred to as Racist. It even opens telling you that you WILL hate the Tree.
Clearly this flash is a parody, displaying how "Racist" is the new "Nigger".
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:47 No.2574240
>>2574235
The racist tree did not evolve socially, it just made the pact to appear not to be racist so that
it wouldn't be ostracized. That's the joke-ish message at the end: that racists are still being
racists, just that they are socially forced to leave their ideologies. But not inside. So social
progress is not really something you force. It is something people grow to learn and understand
in time.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:48 No.2574241
The Racist Tree did nothing wrong.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:51 No.2574242
>>2574241
No anon, the Racist tree did something wrong:
He gave in.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:52 No.2574243
>>2574240
But they were his apples.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:53 No.2574245
>>2574243
Your apples don't belong to you, they belong to Society.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:54 No.2574246
>>2574240
It's like how you shouldn't fap to loli in public.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:56 No.2574248
>>2574245
>Your apples don't belong to you, they belong to Society.
Did you tip your Ushanka while writing this post?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:58 No.2574249
>>2574248
Society helps you make those apples, you owe it to society to give them their fair share.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)09:59 No.2574250
>>2574246
>It's like how you shouldn't fap to loli in public.
A Cynic would disagree.
If only your hunger could be cured by rubbing my belly too.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:09 No.2574258
>>2574240
you can't force a person to change their views, but you can force people to accept other views as
the law of the land in order to allow for greater productivity and inclusiveness and to establish
them as a cultural norm that later children will accept, like mandating speed limits or
illegalizing segregation and hate speech
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:13 No.2574262
>>2574258
>illegalizing hate speech
What about free speech?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:18 No.2574265
>>2574262
Free speech has limits.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:26 No.2574272
>>2574262
You never have the right to say something hateful.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:27 No.2574274
>>2574262
Freedom of speech covers expressing opinions.
It doesn't cover threats.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:28 No.2574276
NIGGERS
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:30 No.2574277
>>2574274
The racist tree didn't threaten anyone though.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:31 No.2574278
>>2574277
By being racist, he was threatening the sensibilities of polite society.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:31 No.2574279
>>2574277
He threatened the peace of society you godless fascist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:33 No.2574281
>>2574277
Racism is even worse.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:34 No.2574282
>>2574276
Racism is against the rules.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:34 No.2574284
>>2574282
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>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:36 No.2574286
>>2574243
free speech and freedom of choice is a two way street. he has the right to deny a child
apples,they have the right to deny him attention for his faulty and offensive reasoning
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:36 No.2574287
wow this isn't entertaining. what happened 4chan?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:37 No.2574289
>>2574287
Trolling. Business as usual.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:39 No.2574290
>>2574286
His reasoning was offensive to them, but how was it faulty?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:41 No.2574291
It doesn't matter who was "right" or "wrong", you idiots. Evolution is change, and society has
changed in this setting. It's not intrinsically good.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:42 No.2574294
>>2574286
It seems unreasonable that ALL the children would refuse the Racist Tree, after all, it wasn't
being racist to them.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:43 No.2574295
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>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:43 No.2574296
>>2574278
>by being racist, he was threatening the opinions of the police state
i fix
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:43 No.2574297
>>2574294
And why didn't the racist tree just drop its apples, and grow new little racist trees?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:44 No.2574299
>>2574296
>Police State
You mean innocent children?
If even innocent children can see what you are doing is wrong and take a stand against it, it is
time to re-evaluate your life.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:45 No.2574300
>>2574297
racism isnt something you're born with
it would take racist years under his racist shade
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:45 No.2574301
>>2574297
Trees aren't born racist, they must be taught that by other racists.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:50 No.2574303
>>2574294
No, most reasonable people don't hang out with racists even if said racist isn't being racist
towards them, personally.
>>2574290
Because the expected outcome of him denying them apples was not getting what he wanted either.
Thus, by assuming he could deny the children apples with no consequence his reasoning was faulty.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:50 No.2574304
>>2574290
The children considered the reasoning faulty because it was a non-sequitur - what does beingblack
have to do with giving apples? after being further pressed, the tree simply stayed steadfast in
its decision, meaning the tree refuses to provide actual logic beyond "no apples for blacks.".
thus, there's no other answer but to either not bring sam to the tree anymore or not acknowledge
the tree, and because they dislike unreasonable intolerance more than they like apples and
playing, they do the latter.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:51 No.2574306
>>2574299
Or point out how the worthless whorespawns are little race traitor shits who've been brainwashed
to think sex and drugs and cursing is bad and foul even though everyone grows up to do it.
Fuck off back to tumblr you SJW
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:51 No.2574307
>>2574303
You're hanging out on 4chan, are you not a reasonable person?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:52 No.2574309
>>2574306
We got one.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:52 No.2574310
>>2574306
>brainwashed to think sex and drugs and cursing is bad and foul even though everyone grows up to
do it.
But the child swears at the Racist Tree in the story. Perhaps you are projecting?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:53 No.2574311
>>2574306
Sounds like you want a conversation you can arbitrarily moderate and curate based on your own
standards without having to listen to varied opinions.
Have you looked at the website tumblr? It matches the criteria you're after far better than this
one. Check it out!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:54 No.2574312
>>2574307
Are you implying 4chan is, on the whole, racist?
/pol/ is not a representative slice of the whole.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:54 No.2574313
>>2574303
>most reasonable people don't hang out with racists
Most people ARE racists though, they just don't like to think they are.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:56 No.2574315
>>2574249
the tree alone grew those apples
i seem to remember an old tale about a chicken and her layabout friends from when i was a kid
that would fit nicely here
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:56 No.2574316
>>2574312
>Are you implying 4chan is, on the whole, racist?
Yes.
Racism doesn't just mean "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW". If you were to ask someone to imagine a
basketball player and then ask them what colour the person they imagined to be, I would bet that
many would admit that they imagined the basketball player to be black. That is still racism.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:56 No.2574317
>>2574312
>everything bad is /pol/
Yes, segregate the undesirables and call yourself not racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:57 No.2574318
>>2574313
[citation needed]
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:57 No.2574319
>>2574315
The chicken was the villain of that story.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:58 No.2574320
>>2574316
>>2574316
>>2574316
>GAS THE JAPS
>RICE WAR NOW
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:58 No.2574321
>>2574262
There's a difference between free speech and consequence free speech. You can say whatever you
want, but you can still be ostracized for your beliefs. It's the same reason why so many public
figures get into so much trouble for saying stupid things.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)10:59 No.2574322
>>2574318
http://rt.com/usa/majority-americans-racist-poll-378/
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:00 No.2574323
>>2574320
SLAP THE JAPS
RIGHT INTO THE THE LAPS
OF THE NAAAAZIIIIIS
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:01 No.2574324
>>2574321
There's a difference between people ostracizing you for your speech and you being arrested and
thrown in jail for it too.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:02 No.2574326
>>2574324
If the tree didn't want to be jailed, he shouldn't have been a tree
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:02 No.2574327
>>2574324
Yes, one is informal and the other is formal. They are basically the same thing, just one is more
official.
A combination of both is at times required to usher in the new age without hate that we would
like to strive for.
>> [_] nigger 10/24/14(Fri)11:02 No.2574328
nigger
>> [_] q 10/24/14(Fri)11:03 No.2574329
>>2574327
>new age without hate
Please return to tumblr, feminazi. The Real world exists and cannot be Big Brother'd
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:05 No.2574331
>>2574316
There is a difference, albeit minor, between stereotypes and racism.
Picturing a black person as a basketball player rather than someone of your own race isn't racist
unless it comes with a negative connotation associated with it. There are a lot of famous black
basketball players and as such that's going to be the public image of the sport for a lot of
people.
>>2574317
The people who post on /pol/ segregated themselves. And now, much like the racist tree, they
wonder why no one wants to hang out with them.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:06 No.2574332
>>2574294
Contrary to popular belief, many people actually care about other people even though there is no
immediate personal gain to be had; they're usually known as "friends", but friendly feelings can
be expressed even without non-personal relationships. the children evidently considered sam a
friend because they brought him to the tree that they loved so much and wanted him to have one of
the apples that they enjoy.
Because the racist tree didn't want to provide an apple, the children felt that, even though
there's no direct effect toward them, they care about their friend enough to be willing to
support him by treating themselves as equals to him and not taking an apple.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:06 No.2574333
>>2574327
>new age without hate
Hate drives everything.
Didn't have gold but now you suddenly do? We hated people enough to kill them for it.
Had a crap computer but got a far better one? A manufacturer hated another manufacturer so much
that innovation took place.
You can't be free of hate. It's who you are.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:06 No.2574334
>>2574329
>if you have a certain opinion you need to be quarantined
>muh big brother!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:07 No.2574335
>>2574333
now that's what I call an edgemaster teenage opinion.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:08 No.2574336
>>2574331
>Picturing a black person as a basketball player rather than someone of your own race isn't
racist unless it comes with a negative connotation associated with it.
Bullshit. Racism is prejudice and stereotyping on the basis of race. Nothing more and nothing
less. Even "Postive Discrimination" is still a form of racism.
The difference between Stereotyping and Racism is that Stereotyping is a broader term, while also
involving a specific form of prejudice. Racism only deals with race. You can stereotype someone
by gender or age or intelligence, but racism requires it to be about race.
You are sounding like those individuals that think that only Whites (and trees) can be Racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:09 No.2574337
>>2574335
You know it, babycakes.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:10 No.2574338
>>2574332
But the racist tree had been nothing but kind to them before that.
Shouldn't they consider the racist tree their friend as well? They're going to pick some stranger
over their long and cherished friendship with the racist tree?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:12 No.2574342
>>2574338
>>2574338
You can't be friends with racists.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:13 No.2574343
The moral of the story is
AROUND BLACKS
NEVER RELAX
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:15 No.2574344
>>2574289
but usually it's funnier. maybe i've just seen this setup too much
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:15 No.2574345
>>2574336
Racism is Power + Prejudice.
Since blacks have no power, they can not be racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:16 No.2574346
>>2574345
What about BLACK POWER?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:16 No.2574347
>>2574345
Ya blew it.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:17 No.2574348
>>2574345
Back to tumblr you go, faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:17 No.2574350
>>2574347
Blew what?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:18 No.2574351
>>2574348
Try reading a book on sociology sometime, you ignorant asshole. Are you seriously trying to
DEFEND RACISM? SERIOUSLY?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:20 No.2574353
>>2574351
>reading a book on sociology
You went to college, got educated in how to be a cunt and now you work at starbucks, don't you?
Your degree is as worthless as a philosophy degree.
Nice try, kid. Make me a latte.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:21 No.2574355
>>2574353
Shouldn't you still be in school, kid?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:22 No.2574356
>>2574343
>AROUND BLACKS
>NEVER RELAX
Hood when?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:22 No.2574357
>>2574355
I'm 22 and I finished a bachelor's degree in geology this year.
Un-fucking-lucky.
Learn about affirmative action and the civil rights act. And stop taking away black people's
agency by telling them they have no power or control in their lives. That's racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:24 No.2574359
Who let /pol/ in here?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:25 No.2574360
Can someone post the flash where the little nig blows cowpussy and showers in piss?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:27 No.2574361
>>2574338
Yeah? If you know someone for years and then find out they have shitty opinions that's no reason
to value that shitty opinion more. It's still a shitty opinion.
>>2574336
"Prejudice" is what I mean by a negative connotation, in the sense that it's usually a negative
association of traits assumed about someone based on the color of their skin. Affirmative action
does go too far in addressing issues related to hiring and skin color, which is why now it has to
be proven that there is a specific instance of discrimination being addressed along with a
specific response, rather than a vague "hire more minorities" agenda.
There is nothing inherently prejudiced about a mental picture of a certain race associated with a
certain job when those things are associated often enough in real life. Basketball stars with the
most media exposure tend to be black. It's not surprising that this shapes our immediate mental
image of a basketball player.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:28 No.2574362
>>2574245
thank you for describing communism in a way that people understand it
thank you based anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:31 No.2574363
>>2574361
>"Prejudice" is what I mean by a negative connotation
Which is nonsense denotatively. Prejudice is just a tool, and an extremely useful one. People are
prejudice against bears and felons and dogs that foam from the mouth. A world without prejudice
would be a very short lived one.
There IS something inherently prejudiced about a mental picture of a certain race associated with
a certain job. Just because something is prejudice, doesn't mean it can not be accurate as well.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:32 No.2574366
>>2574361
>There is nothing inherently prejudiced about a mental picture of a certain race associated with
a certain job when those things are associated often enough in real life
Just like if you were asked to picture a criminal and imagined a black guy, there would be
nothing inherently prejudice about it.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:32 No.2574367
>>2574299
>if fictional children characters agree with me, I must be morally right
that's exactly how stupid you sound right now
also, children are inherently racist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkpUyB2xgTM
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:33 No.2574368
Wait guys. I think that nigger loving faggot is actualy serious!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:36 No.2574369
>>2574368
/pol/ pls
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:38 No.2574371
>>2574369
tumblr plz
I cna play that game too faggit.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:44 No.2574375
>>2574329
>Feminazi
Rapist Tree when?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:44 No.2574376
>>2574363
This is equivocating on what prejudice means. It's reasonable to have a prejudice against a
foaming dog or a bear because those specific visual traits - the foam, and being a bear - are
actually associated with specific behaviors and threats. The association between a profession and
a skin color isn't an inherently negative association, like that one is.
If I'm told to picture a car and I picture a blue one rather than a red one, this could be
because I own a blue car, or because all my neighbors own blue cars, or my favorite car is blue.
It doesn't mean I hate red cars or that I think cars can't be red, or that I think being blue
makes a car intrinsically better in any respect when it comes to driving.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:47 No.2574379
>>2574376
>a skin color isn't an inherently negative association
I honestly don't fucking now anymore.
Did m00t really killed this fucking place and replaced with SJWs and tumblrfags?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:48 No.2574381
>>2574379
Yes, now get lost, pissbaby. Your clubhouse is ours now.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:49 No.2574382
>>2574376
The point is that it is still prejudice. A bear being a bear isn't inherently negative either;
perhaps it is a teddy bear?
If you naturally think of something as something that it does not necessarily need to be, that is
prejudice on your part. If that something you think involves the basis of race, it is Racist too.
Doesn't matter whether what you think is good, bad or neutral.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:49 No.2574383
>>2574366
This is only racist when it influences our actions rather than our initial impressions, like
black people being overly targeted for stop and risk in new york... which then leads to more
people associating black people with criminal activity because they get stopped by the police
more often.
It's not racist until it goes both ways, assuming that not only would most "criminals" would be
blacks, but that most blacks would be "criminals."
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:50 No.2574384
>>2574381
After you Xir.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:52 No.2574387
>>2574382
Just because I have an immediate visualization of a basketball player as a black person doesn't
mean I can't also visualize a person of any other skin color - or gender - playing the same
sport. Immediate visualization is the first step in the process of understanding an object. I
believe racism comes later.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:53 No.2574388
>>2574345
>leader of the most powerful nation in the world is black
But guys! Niggers have no Power!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:54 No.2574390
>>2574379
>implying 4chan hasn't always been this way
lurk more
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:54 No.2574391
>>2574390
Maybe you should lurk more.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:55 No.2574393
>>2574383
>This is only racist when it influences our actions rather than our initial impressions
No anon, that is not true. If you make a judgment on the basis of race, it is racism. They are
both racism. You can have racist views, racist actions and racist thoughts. It is all racism
despite all being different things as well.
>It's not racist until it goes both ways
No, there is nothing true about that. It is pure conjecture. The truth is that both are racism.
Most criminals are black? Racism. Most blacks are Criminals? Racism.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:55 No.2574394
>>2574388
Apparently that guy didn't blow it after all since people are actually responding seriously to
him.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:56 No.2574395
>>2574388
>Give the black guy the worst job in the country
nigga das racis
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:56 No.2574396
>>2574394
>i was just joking :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)11:59 No.2574399
>>2574387
>Just because I have an immediate visualization of a basketball player as a black person doesn't
mean I can't also visualize a person of any other skin color - or gender - playing the same sport.
No, but it instantly shows that you have prejudice on the basis of race.
You say you believe racism comes later, but it really doesn't.
What you want is for racism to be inherently bad, rather than just a thing, and at the same time
you don't want yourself to be guilty of something you view as inherently bad in all forms. So you
distance it from yourself by claiming that your racism isn't REALLY racism, making excuses and
putting excessive qualifiers on it.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:00 No.2574400
>>2574393
It's not racist to say that most people who get targeted by stop and frisk are black, because
that's actually true in reality.
If I'm told to picture someone with sickle cell anemia and I picture a black person, this isn't
racist because it's a disease that affects a vastly greater number of black people than of other
skin colors, and is famous for doing so.
If the impressions we have and the way we visualize things are based on empirical evidence, and
skin color is actually a relevant trait, it's not racist.
The trouble with the criminal association is that a police force that is biased against black
people creates the impression of empirical evidence that black people commit more crimes, when in
truth there will be more innocent people getting frisked for no reason, and criminals of other
skin colors getting away with whatever it is they're doing.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:01 No.2574402
>>2574400
>It's not racist to say that most people who get targeted by stop and frisk are black, because
that's actually true in reality.
Truth can be racist if it is on the basis of race.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:01 No.2574403
>>2574396
>I can't identify obvious bait :^)
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:02 No.2574404
>>2574272
You're a faggot.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:02 No.2574405
>>2574400
But empirically speaking, black people do commit a disproportionate amount of crimes.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:03 No.2574407
>>2574405
In fact, racial make-up of an area is the single best qualifier of the crime rate there in the
US, even when you isolate for income and education.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:04 No.2574409
>>2574399
>>2574400
These are not accepted definitions of either prejudice or racism, and I don't believe you've
adequately made the case for going with yours.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:05 No.2574412
>>2574409
I agree. Racism is Prejudice + Power. This is a proven fact, but idiots and racists will dispute
it.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:08 No.2574417
>>2574412
What Power did the Racist Tree possess?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:09 No.2574420
>>2574417
The power to call Sam a Nigger.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:09 No.2574421
>>2574407
I'd be interested to see this study. I would expect income and education to be more relevant to
crime rate than skin color, and just because they aren't doesn't necessarily mean another factor
isn't at work.
I also think it's worth noting that being true in america is also not the same as that being true
worldwide.
>>2574409
This post should have been quoting:
>>2574399
>>2574402
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:10 No.2574423
>>2574272
I hate you.
Seriously, I hate you and people who think like you do.
Am I going to jail now?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:14 No.2574427
what the fuck, /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:14 No.2574428
>>2574409
Race is a social construct.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:15 No.2574430
>>2574421
No, you are incorrect. The previous post had the quotes correct.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:16 No.2574432
>>2574420
>The Courage to call Sam a Nigger
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:17 No.2574433
>>2574430
I have to disagree with that as I made both posts.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:17 No.2574434
>115 REPLIES
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:19 No.2574439
>>2574433
I realized that you did, but you are still wrong in your correction. You in no way defended your
claim as to what racism is other than saying this is how you feel. You spoke of purely personal
connotations.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:20 No.2574440
>>2574245
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:20 No.2574442
>>2574439
Of course he would, he's a racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:21 No.2574445
>>2574440
Trees don't sweat.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:22 No.2574446
>>2574440
andrew pls
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:24 No.2574449
>>2574439
It's pretty well established that racism and prejudice come from the arbitrary linking of race to
attributes, traits, or behavior.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:24 No.2574450
>128
YOU ARE ALL AUTISTIC PUSSYASSNIGGERS
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:25 No.2574452
132 now
some nigger fucked up
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:26 No.2574454
>>2574449
In your mind perhaps.
Racism does not need to be arbitrary.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:27 No.2574455
This shit is more autistic than katanaVSlongsword.swf
You're all double niggers
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:27 No.2574456
>>2574230
>You will never be the one kid to stand up to hate and continue to be the Racist Tree's friend
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:29 No.2574460
>>2574440
No, it belongs to everyone.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:29 No.2574461
>>2574454
It does, this is the accepted definition of the word. The association of skin color with other
traits for an arbitrary reason.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:30 No.2574464
>>2574440
depends on what the man has been given to produce that sweat.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:32 No.2574465
>>2574461
>It does, this is the accepted definition of the word
I just looked it up, you are incorrect.
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)12:32 No.2574466
I-I-I-I don't like all these replies, guise.
>>2574345
Shit Tyrone, what are you doing? Too far for the sake of trolling.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:33 No.2574468
>>2574461
>This is the accepted definition of the word
Except it actually isn't, it is YOUR definition. It is accepted by YOU.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:34 No.2574470
>>2574243
he obviously enjoyed giving them to the children.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:34 No.2574471
>>2574465
The definition mentions prejudice. Now check that one.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:34 No.2574472
>>2574468
>it is YOUR definition.
His definition that is crafted to neatly exclude all his racist beliefs form qualifying, how nice
is that?
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)12:34 No.2574473
>>2574351
Not all sociologists are in the activism wing, like this faggot. Fuck him. Some just want to
learn and explain to people about how society ticks without yelling about duh white male
privilege.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:35 No.2574475
>>2574468
accepted by me, and the committee who examined the philosophical literature and then put it in
the dictionary.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:37 No.2574478
just keep pumping the replies, no one cares
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:37 No.2574479
>>2574475
Nah man, I just checked the definition. You using urban dictionary or something stupid?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:38 No.2574481
>>2574470
Was the racist tree a pedophile?
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)12:38 No.2574482
>>2574390
It hasn't.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:39 No.2574484
>150+ replies
I hope I'm not late for the party
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:39 No.2574485
>>2574472
By refusing to admit to his own ignorance, he is refusing to ever learn.
Socrates would surely disapprove.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:39 No.2574486
>>2574479
see
>>2574471
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:40 No.2574487
>>2574473
Check your privilege, namefag.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:40 No.2574488
>>2574482
It has.
>m-muh nostalgia!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:42 No.2574490
>>2574481
yes, and societal progamming means he african american children aren't safe from him anymore.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:42 No.2574491
>>2574486
Alright, checked it. And you're still incorrect.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:43 No.2574492
>>2574490
Pedosexual is the new Homosexual.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:43 No.2574493
the ammount of comments in this thread is probably at least 30 times the ammount of people in
here...
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:44 No.2574494
>>2574471
>any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
Seems that you are wrong, pal.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:45 No.2574496
>>2574488
>>2574466
>>2574455
>>2574433
>>2574400
>>2574399
>>2574388
>>2574366
>>2574344
>>2574311
>>2574299
>>2574277
nice dubs
>>2574333
except for you faggot
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:45 No.2574497
>>2574494
No, the dictionary is wrong.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:46 No.2574499
>>2574493
Call in /pol/ then, I bet they would love this.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:47 No.2574500
>>2574272
"Your rights end where my feelings begin" - you
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:47 No.2574502
>>2574494
>preconceived
As in, not based on evidence.
Man, you're learning a lot of new words today.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:48 No.2574503
Why so many replies? Dear god, keep this going
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:49 No.2574505
>>2574503
yes we need to kill the giga nigga
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:51 No.2574507
>>2574502
No anon.
>To form (an opinion, for example) before possessing full knowledge
As perfect knowledge is not possible, most views are preconceptions to some extent.
Your preconception of a Basketball player for instance.
I take it English is probably not your first language, as people are needing to walk you through
the meaning of each individual word.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:52 No.2574508
>>2574502
>As in, not based on evidence.
No, you are stating that with no supporting evidence. You have a preconceived view on what
preconceived means, Racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:54 No.2574510
bumping an ebin threde xD
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:55 No.2574511
>>2574508
Why is it that people that claim to be anti-racist or on the left so often are the most racist
ones?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:57 No.2574514
>>2574511
Because they refuse to admit their own racism and accept it. They resort to doublethink, leading
them to deeper acts of racism which they then excuse as well.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:58 No.2574517
>>2574507
>to some extent
Keywords there. I know that there are black people who play basketball. If I picture one
immediately when conceptualizing a basketball player, this is based on empirical evidence.
That's the "full knowledge" required for an immediate visualization. It says nothing about the
skills of a particular player, or group of players. Creating an opinion of the skills of a
particular player or group of players based on that immediate visualization would be racist,
because knowledge that there are black people who play basketball is not the "full knowledge"
required to make that judgement.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)12:59 No.2574520
>>2574517
>full knowledge
No it isn't, racist.
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)12:59 No.2574521
>>2574487
Make me, kike.
>>2574488
It has not.
>m-muh re-writing history!
>>2574496
Seems like a lot, even for a thread with so many replies.
>>2574514
Doublethink is the way to cope with cognitive dissonance, yeah?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:01 No.2574523
>guaranteed_replies.swf
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:01 No.2574524
>>2574521
>it has
>m-m-muh refuting of nostalgia
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:03 No.2574526
>>2574520
Sure it is. It's not an opinion, or a judgment, or a decision to act in a certain way. It's a
picture formed in my own mind based on something I have seen in reality.
If I want to picture something I have seen in reality, the only knowledge I require is having
seen it in reality.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:04 No.2574528
>>2574526
It IS a judgment though.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:04 No.2574529
>>2574265
>free
>limits
pick one
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)13:04 No.2574530
>>2574524
>
You are implying that it has? Glad to see you're on my side, nigger.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:05 No.2574531
>>2574528
>Arguing with an ignorant racist
Give it up anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:06 No.2574532
>>2574528
The only judgment being made is on whether or not I can trust what my eyes show my brain, and I
do trust that. This is not an unreasonable judgment. I'd rather not get into Locke and Descartes
so that's all I really have to say about that. If you try to argue against my eyes showing me
reality without citing a clear philosophical source I'll just assume it's trolling.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:08 No.2574533
>These kids addressed the tree as "the racist tree"
>Surprised when it displays racist qualities
Let him give apples to who he chooses. Sure he's an asshole, but its not like they can't get
apples elsewhere.
these kids are dumb as fuck
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:08 No.2574536
>>2574528
>>2574528
He's probably just shitposting.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:09 No.2574537
look at this big pile of shit OP
butt-hurt levels on both sides are reaching their limit
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:09 No.2574538
>>2574532
No anon. When you imagine something in your mind, that is a judgment on the intrinsic qualities
of something.
In your mind, a basketball player is assumed to be black unless otherwise evidence presents
itself.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:10 No.2574540
>>2574532
>>2574536
>I'll just assume it's trolling
Looks like the shitposter is getting tired.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:12 No.2574544
The level of fedora tipping in this thread is ludicrous
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:13 No.2574546
>>2574538
>In your mind, a basketball player is assumed to be black
You're equating an initial image with a full opinion. I thought we went over this. Actually, we
did go over this.
Please address in what way my initial image is a full opinion and address how that initial image
will affect my behaviors and decisions, so that we can avoid talking in circles.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:13 No.2574547
>>2574544
Racists leftists gunna leftist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:14 No.2574548
>>2574544
dubs
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:15 No.2574549
>>2574546
No anon, when you imagine something you are imaging it in its purest form before outside
qualifiers are added. To you, the basketball player is black. Saying a black basketball player
wouldn't really change how you pictured something, someone would need to specify it as asian or
something for you to picture something different.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:16 No.2574550
>>2574546
Please prove why something needs to affect behaviors to be racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:18 No.2574553
>>2574550
It doesn't.
That said, it does affect behaviors. If someone were to ask him to draw a basketball player, he'd
probably draw a black guy.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:19 No.2574554
LOL NIGERERS ARE BLACK
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:19 No.2574557
Would you give the Nigger apples, /f/?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:20 No.2574558
>>2574554
NO StOP RUSTLING MY TRANSSEX JIMMMIES MODS BAN THIS FAGGOT
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:20 No.2574559
200 get
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:21 No.2574560
>>2574557
I would give the apples nigger
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)13:21 No.2574561
>>2574559
>>2574560
Fail
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:22 No.2574562
ITT: Tumblr vs. /pol/ with [s4s]
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:23 No.2574565
>>2574562
More like racists vs rationalists.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:23 No.2574566
>>2574561
lrn 2 count nigger
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:24 No.2574568
>>2574549
This is true, but it's trivial. I'm making no judgment as to whether a black basketball player is
better than an asian one, just like if I picture a blue car when I hear the word "car" I am not
making a judgment of it being a better vehicle than a red one, because I understand that the skin
color - or paint color - is not a relevant quality in judging that. If I picture an asian
basketball player initially and someone has to specify that that a player is black, that's still
not racist, for the same reasons.
>>2574550
Because I have full knowledge required to make an initial observation after seeing something in
reality. It isn't until later, when one forms an opinion without full knowledge and then acts on
that opinion (still without full knowledge) that there is racism.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:24 No.2574569
>over 200 replies on an /f/ thread
fug
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:25 No.2574573
>>2574565
tumblr pls
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:25 No.2574575
>>2574553
>implying you have the full knowledge to make that judgment
He would actually be the color of the paper because I can't draw for shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:25 No.2574576
>>2574565
Oh boy, I love false dichotomies! Let's make some more.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:26 No.2574577
Why do progressives think there will ever be another American revolution where they will gain
control?
Progressives are in denial and refuse to accept that if shit goes down, they will be the ones at
the receiving end of the blade.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:27 No.2574578
>>2574576
niggers vs faggots
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:27 No.2574579
>>2574573
No anon, the one claiming to be not racist is the racist. The one pointing out that everyone is
racist to an extent would be the rationalist.
>> [_] AdamB15 10/24/14(Fri)13:28 No.2574581
>>2574566
59 failed, 60 won. I was pointing that out
Have a nice day :)
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:28 No.2574583
>>2574579
>implying I read the whole thread
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:29 No.2574584
>>2574568
Nonsense. You are told to picture A basketball player, not the specific one you have seen. And
the one you picture is black, because that is a natural quality for basketball players to you,
because you are racist.
And it is okay to be racist, racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:29 No.2574585
>>2574579
How can they be a rationalist when their position isn't based in rationality? "They" - by which I
mean probably you - appear to have a foregone conclusion on that subject, which is not rational.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:30 No.2574588
212 posts and it's not even porn or gore.
Get the fuck outta my /f/, all of you.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:31 No.2574590
>>2574585
It is far more rational to believe that everyone is likely to be racist, including you
specifically as you have already voices your racist views in this very thread.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:31 No.2574591
>>2574588
ebin dubs m9
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:32 No.2574592
>>2574585
Shut up you god damn nazi.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:32 No.2574593
ayy lmao
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:32 No.2574594
>>2574593
tumblr pls go
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:33 No.2574595
>The Racist Tree
>230 Replies
Holy fuck my sides!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:33 No.2574596
>>2574584
If I'm told to picture a basketball player, that can include basketball players I have seen.
The group of basketball players I have seen is a subset of the group of all basketball players
that exist. The initial criteria for what I am picturing do not exclude picturing things I have
seen in reality. Picturing things that exist in reality is generally advisable to do, when
possible and applicable.
The projections you've made after that faulty statement don't follow.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:34 No.2574598
>>2574595
Some racist is being really defensive of his racism and trying to overcompensate about it when
being called out.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:35 No.2574600
>>2574598
and some faggot (i.e. you) is being really defensive about his color
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:35 No.2574601
>>2574596
>that can include basketball players I have seen.
Yeah, but that isn't what you did initially anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:36 No.2574604
>>2574596
Hey racist that isn't what projection means.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:37 No.2574606
>>2574598
>SJW
>Not overcompensating
my sides
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:37 No.2574607
>>2574604
>>2574601
>>2574598
stop bullying the racist. Didn't you watch the flash? Bullying him for being racist is wrong.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:38 No.2574609
>be me
>go on /f/
>see a thread with 229 posts
>mfw i have no face
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:38 No.2574610
>>2574607
didnt watch the thread didnt read the flash I'm here for dank dubs
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:38 No.2574611
>>2574598
That racist deserves a medal, /f/ rarely has this much excitement. Haven't seen this many posts
in a thread since back in the Zeitgeist wars.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:38 No.2574612
>>2574606
SJW as the most insidious of racists.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:39 No.2574613
>>2574609
welp
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:39 No.2574614
>>2574609
Who are you quoting?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:39 No.2574615
>>2574604
Sure, it's another kind of ad hominem. I apologize for my lazy use of language when classifying
what's happening when someone else is telling me what my opinions are.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:39 No.2574616
Posting in a maybe record-breaking thread.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:40 No.2574617
This is not the /f/ I know!
Fucking newfags
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:40 No.2574618
>>2574615
Not what Ad Hominem means either.
Hell, the structure you used it in is entirely incorrect.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:41 No.2574619
>>2574616
Not even close.
The 4chan adventure game flash got threads well over 300 posts for several nights back when it
was posted.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:42 No.2574621
>>2574619
well we only need 50 posts more
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:42 No.2574622
>>2574619
When do /f/ threads go into autosage?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:42 No.2574624
>cri evri tim
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:43 No.2574625
>>2574622
when this thread gets too many dubs
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:43 No.2574626
>>2574618
Sure it's ad hominem, the argument here essentially goes "you are racist because you picture
basketball players with a certain skin color, and you are racist"
It's circular in that the conclusion is in the premises but it's also ad hominem because said
premise is against the person.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:43 No.2574627
>>2574622
As of 15 posts ago, it's marked as Old now so mods can delete it whenever they feel like it
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:44 No.2574628
>>2574626
No anon, that isn't Ad Hominem.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:44 No.2574629
>>2574627
MODZ PLS STICKY
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:44 No.2574630
>>2574626
Well, in the spirit of being charitable, I have a minor correction to make. The argument runs
EVERYONE IS RACIST
Premise 1: When you picture a basketball player, they're black
Premise 2: You are racist
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:44 No.2574631
>>2574622
Since all threads are on first page there is no autosage, only time limit
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:44 No.2574632
>>2574596
The thing is, we mentally represent things as categories, not images. That initial impression is
a conglomerate of all basketball players you have ever seen, molded and mashed into a homogeneous
form. You are not recalling an image or a certain basketball player. You are recalling an
abstraction.
Your abstraction is a black man.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:45 No.2574634
>>2574626
That isn't what ad hominem means and that isn't the argument either, you have shown you don't
really understand anything that is being said.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:45 No.2574636
>>2574628
yes anon, it is.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:46 No.2574637
>>2574632
>Your abstraction is a black man.
Oh shit, he's a fucking SEXIST too!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:48 No.2574639
>>2574636
I'm afraid you are mistaken.
If I were to say you were a pedophile and thus your preconception of an imagined basketball
american is black, then that would indeed be ad hom.
Pointing out that you are racist for having a racist preconception is not ad hom.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:48 No.2574641
>>2574632
But when forming that abstraction we don't weigh every example of something we've seen in a set
equally.
If I'm picturing a car it's more likely to look like my car, even if my car happens to be blue
and most other cars I see are red.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:49 No.2574642
>>2574636
Go look up Ad Hominem anon because you are still misunderstanding it.
You're not too far (you are differentiating from namecalling for instance) but are still using it
incorrectly.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:50 No.2574644
>>2574639
Your pedophile example is an ad hominem that's non-sequitur in nature while the racist one is ad
hominem that's circular.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:50 No.2574645
plz just make it stop... all of the fucking shills need to get off of 1/2chan
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:51 No.2574646
>>2574637
baiting too hard
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:51 No.2574647
>>2574644
No anon, that isn't circular. Pointing out that someone has racist beliefs, thus it is likely
that they themselves is a racist is not circular.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:52 No.2574649
>>2574646
Isn't bait, more of a hilarious realization.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:52 No.2574650
>>2574647
The conclusion of the argument is "You are racist" and that is backed up by the premise "You are
racist."
Thus it is circular.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:53 No.2574651
>>2574644
Ad hom would be saying what you say is racist because you are a racist.
The argument is that you are a racist for having racist beliefs.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:54 No.2574653
>>2574650
Nah man. The conclusion is that your preconception is racist. By being a person that has racist
views, you are a racist.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/24/14(Fri)13:55 No.2574654
>>2574651
That's equivocation.
Having racist beliefs is what makes someone a racist. Can't be a racist without racist beliefs.
The first statement (which is circular) and the second are the same.
