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[_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:16 No.2732322
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:21 No.2732325
Good job to the man who made this. I like the zoomed in version better than the one where you see
more of the floor.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:27 No.2732329
nothing
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:29 No.2732333
Is this an actual scene from the visual novel?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:33 No.2732336
>>2732325
The image didn't cover the entire screen during rotation, that's probably why he made this.
>>2732333
Yeah, from Rin route a couple days before gallery exhibition I think.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:37 No.2732341
>>2732322
Man, this manages to make me regret the last seven or eight years of my life.
Or well, rather that it makes me remember that regret. I need something to escape into.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:44 No.2732344
>>2732341
"Life's shit and then you die." - 2015 OP
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:44 No.2732345
One of my favourite bands and my favourite route. Good job, anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:46 No.2732347
>>2732344
If life's so shit then why are you still here anon?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:48 No.2732349
>>2732347
I don't want to ruin the illusion for the people that care about me. Maybe I don't live in that
world where life is worth living, but they do - and I don't want to ruin that blessed ignorance.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:48 No.2732350
so much feelings.
Lets say nothing some more.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:51 No.2732353
>>2732349
Why do you care? If you're dead you're dead. That's kinda the point.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:52 No.2732355
>>2732322
3 years later and I still get sad every time I think about this game, especially Rin's route.
god fucking damn it
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:55 No.2732363
>>2732353
You don't understand, anon.
I hate my life. But I don't hate their lives. They have good lives, with dreams and ambitions.
You could say I live my life through them. My family, my friends, my loved ones. I hate my life,
but I don't hate theirs.
>> [_] Anon 03/28/15(Sat)23:56 No.2732364
I would really like to know the source of this game. You already have me listening to this song
and added it to favorites. So what is this game, very curious and i would love to know more about
what this picture is conveying. I feel a sense of hopelessness and apathy when I see this
amputeed girl and guy lying next to each other with what seems to be a pill in his hand. The
spiraling screen invokes a sense of life in a repeating cycle, always monotonous and never
changing.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:57 No.2732367
>>2732364
How the fuck can you not know what this game is after reading the words visual novel and Rin and
also realizing that she's lacking two arms? That literally all you need to know to find out.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/28/15(Sat)23:59 No.2732370
>>2732364
It's Katawa Shoujo, a Visual Novel /a/ created back in 2012.
You're put in a school for people with disabilities and there's a bunch of gurls you can date.
The game will make you depressed, 100% guaranteed.
[tfwnospoiler]he's holding a cigarette[/tfwnospoiler]
>> [_] Anon 03/29/15(Sun)00:00 No.2732371
I haven't really read any visual novels nor played them. Manga is about as far as I have
ventured, not b/c I don't enjoy vns, I just never verntured further.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:00 No.2732373
>>2732371
anon, play this game.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:01 No.2732374
>>2732371
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=visual+novel+and+Rin+and+also+realizing+that+she%27s+lacking+t
wo+arms
no fucking excuse you shithead
>> [_] Anon 03/29/15(Sun)00:01 No.2732375
>>2732370
Thanks Anon, I'll take you up on your claim that it will make me depressed.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:07 No.2732386
>>2732336
thanks. I keep meaning to play through KS, but other things keep getting in the way. Rin is the
only real route I feel like going down though.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:12 No.2732390
Seems like there are a bunch of people who've played through KS in here. Spoilers for Shizune
route I guess, for the people who haven't read.
Can somebody explain to me why it is that everybody ignores the fact that the MC was fucking
raped by Shizune? It's so fucking weird and it took me completely out of it, but the weirdest
thing is that everywhere I've seen this game discussed nobody ever brings this up. Seems like
everyone just forgot about it.
I know that Shizune and her route were paper thin and pretty boring all the way through tbh
(except for that one opportunity to shag Misha, which wasn't even handled that well) but that
really pushed it from 'this route is pretty plain and boring' territory into 'what the fuck were
you thinking 4LS' territory.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:15 No.2732393
>>2732390
And it's not like it's just my interpretation or my understanding of the scene that's weird.
There's in textual evidence that he himself was very uncomfortable with it, he asks himself later
in the route whether he really wanted it and so on. It's not just me who's going Shizune a bitch.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:21 No.2732398
This is nice, but the original video with Nujabes fits the scene and Rin better.
Also, Rin is the best girl with the best route.
>>2732390
Shizune's route is shit, so no one really cares.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:25 No.2732404
>>2732390
>>2732393
In the same vein, how do you justify him sexing Hanako in her route? That came totally left
field. Yeah, they both admitted some sort of attraction and showed each other their scars - then
suddenly sex. What? It all worked out, but the fuck was up with that?
Every sex scene in this game could be replaced with something else and it would add more to the
story. Honestly.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:25 No.2732408
>>2732398
I agree with your opinion about the one with Nujabes. However, that scene with Shizune was weird,
I recall thinking that when I played though her route, it's just a really awkward scene, but it
shows a bit more about how Shizune likes to be in control of things (from what I vaguely recall
about that scene).
also, /r/ing the nujabes version if it hasn't been posted yet.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:28 No.2732411
>>2732408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hRekJkWXXI
>>2732404
It worked in Rin and Lily's route. Though you could replace it with something else, I don't think
it would have felt as 'right'.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:29 No.2732413
>>2732398
Yeah it's shit, but it's shittiness decreases the overall quality of the work, so I think it's
worth discussing what was shit about it.
>>2732408
But being in control doesn't even begin to describe what was going on there. IIRC he said he
wanted out and she didn't comply.
>>2732404
I disagree but I can sorta see where your view comes from. Sex and sexuality is a pretty big part
of teenage life, and removing that from a piece of what I would call young adult fiction would
seem disingenuous. I agree that the sex scenes were probably some of the worst scenes overall in
the VN, but that's pretty typical for VNs.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:30 No.2732415
>>2732413
>IIRC he said he wanted out and she didn't comply.
I don't remember enough about the scene to make an argument beyond what I stated, and I don't
have KS installed, so I'll take your word for it.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:30 No.2732416
>>2732411
Lily was just a sexual deviant and Rin...
Honestly, I didn't like Rin's route. Maybe some people can relate to the social awkwardness and
the autistic nature, but there was no way I could like her by the end of it all. She just annoyed
me.
No hate to people who do like her, but I just can't see it.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:34 No.2732418
>>2732416
Rin's route, for me at least, was about the fact that two people will never be able to completely
understand each other. The development was the MC and Rin separately realizing and coming to
terms with that realization. I think that's a very potent and very important matter. I related
hard.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:36 No.2732422
>>2732416
While I'm not trying to change your opinion, I figure I might be able to add some insight.
I just initially wanted to know more about her during the demo. Following her route when the
actual VN came out (and having do deal with the shitty choices Hisao has) really made me feel bad
for her, and to want to be there to comfort her. Seeing her route through to the end (good end)
made me feel like I really got a look into the shit some people put up with when pursuing a
difficult profession to get into.
Who knows, maybe I'm just retarded or whatever, but I enjoyed Rin's route more than any of the
others.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:37 No.2732423
name of the song?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:38 No.2732424
>>2732418
Also, Rin was by far the most hilarious character (after Kenji ofc) in the game.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:39 No.2732426
>>2732423
>Name of the song
>Has easily googlable lyrics
topkek
When you say nothing at all by Ronan Keating though.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:40 No.2732427
>>2732322
Can someone link the nujabes one?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:41 No.2732428
>>2732423
https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=%22And+that%27s+the+way+it%27s+always+bee
n.+Cause+I+say+it+all+when+I+say+nothing+at+all%22&gws_rd=ssl
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:42 No.2732431
>>2732427
dude what
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:42 No.2732432
>>2732427
>>2732411
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:47 No.2732434
Well, this thread got pretty thoroughly derailed.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:48 No.2732436
>>2732434
Seems like a pretty natural progression for a thread with no prompt.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:48 No.2732437
>>2732434
What, you want to have some sort of introspective conversation?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:51 No.2732440
ffs what WONT you weebs fetishize
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:52 No.2732441
>>2732440
Fetishizing regular human beings seems pretty inline with societal standards.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:52 No.2732442
>>2732440
It started out as a joke, but then parts of /a/ found out it could still feel things.
Also, there's hardly any fetish stuff in KS.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:54 No.2732444
Has anybody looked at the other projects started by the scattered remains of 4LS? Last time I
looked they all looked pretty shitty.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:55 No.2732445
>>2732442
>Hardly any fetish stuff
>Game literally has scenes of MC fucking paraplegics
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:56 No.2732448
>>2732444
They're done I think. They have a Twitter that is more or less regularly updated, so take a look
at that if you'd like.
https://twitter.com/fourleafstudios
After taking a look it seems they haven't updated that in a few months. Oh well.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:57 No.2732449
>>2732445
~1 in each route. Watching porn is a good deal less than 5% of the time spend reading this VN.
>>2732448
Yeah, but some of the guys went on and did their own things, can't remember the name of it now. I
think it's in the sticky of the non-jap VN general at /vg/.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:58 No.2732450
>>2732445
>>2732445
Pretty sure Emi is only in a wheelchair for a short time (I never went though her route).
Also, just because they have physical handicaps doesn't mean they suddenly become fetish fuel.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)00:58 No.2732452
>>2732449
Emi had like five H scenes, just saying.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:01 No.2732457
>>2732445
>handicapped people can't appear in porn
That's discrimination, anon.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:02 No.2732458
>>2732452
Yeah, and now that I think about it both Shizu and Hanako also had two. But I'll still insist on
the fact that it's a very minor part of the game.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:04 No.2732462
>>2732375
If you get a bad end; I guarantee you it will
>>2732440
It wasn't meant to fetishize "cripples" (only using that term because translated title). It's
meant to show that they are no different on the inside. People are people anon
>>2732445 see >>2732450
>just because they have physical handicaps doesn't mean they suddenly become fetish fuel
this
>>2732416
I like Rin's rout the most because I got everything she said
The mc was always confused about what she meant, but i always understood her. tbh it bothered me
a lot that mc didn't get it so i had to use a flowchart to decipher his interpretations of what's
going on.
But personally, i get her whole spaced out, highly abstract personality. Am I weird?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:08 No.2732465
>>2732462
>Am I weird?
Maybe slightly, but I know exactly what you mean. I knew how Rin felt pretty much the whole time
(again, because we're seeing it from outside vs as Hisao). She said some weird shit occasionally,
but she wasn't as cryptic as some people think she was.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:13 No.2732471
>>2732462
>Am I weird?
Not really, MC's are made to be dense and it's a tough balancing act between being so dense your
reader is taken out of the story and being so omniscient that your reader is taken out of the
story. Oftentimes writers tend toward the dense end because people tend to be a lot more
forgiving towards the MC missing social cues rather than picking up on cues the reader couldn't
get.
Rin must've been a troublesome character to write, because the writer wanted her to be aloof and
sort-of incomprehensible, but he still wanted her to be relateable and loveable. While at the
same time having to write her conversational partner who's supposed to only get part of what
she's saying.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:17 No.2732476
>>2732471
hmm.even given that, most of my other friends who've played Rin's path don't get what i'm talking
about. to me, she was only incomprehensible for a short tie=me, and when i figured her out, even
that made sense
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:22 No.2732481
>>2732355
I stopped playing the game at Rin's route.
What happened?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:22 No.2732483
>>2732476
Well, even then it's a story and there isn't really any 'correct' or 'objective' understanding of
what Rin says or thinks.
If you feel you've figured her out and the character makes sense and you like her, sure thing.
All literary value lies in ones own personal interpretation of it.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:24 No.2732485
Playing through Rin's route sapped any interest I might have had in continuing with any of the
others.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:25 No.2732486
>>2732481
You should play it. Rin's route is the best in the game.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:26 No.2732487
>>2732486
Maybe after I finish heavens feel. I also have the Chaos;Head vn just gathering virtual dust on
my desktop here. Not sure if I'l' ever play it.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:27 No.2732488
>>2732481
>Condensing multiple hours of reading into a single post
A lot of shit happens with a gallery, and then it has a very satisfying ending on a meadow a
short walk away from the school. It ends with MC realizing that he'll never understand Rin, and
that's okay or something.
I know some people actually argue that the neutral route is the best Rin route, but I never
played that.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:27 No.2732489
>>2732481
Depending on if you get good/neutral/bad ending a few different things.
Good ending is:
>You convince her to do what the art teacher says and start taking painting more seriously.
>She does so and distances herself from you and everyone else in an attempt to become a better
artist
>You then pry yourself back into her life by telling her you want to understand her and help her
>Que The_Sky.jpg and "What's the right word for when it feels inside your heart that everything
in the world is alright?"
I never went back though her route to get neutral/bad end. I couldn't deal with that at the time,
it was too emotional of a route with the good end. I highly suggest you give it a shot and if you
must, use a flow chart to get good end.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:28 No.2732490
>>2732489
Neutral is a powerful ending, though obviously not as happy. I highly recommend doing it first,
because it makes the good end payoff that much more powerful.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:29 No.2732491
>>2732363
this...this right here...you go anon
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:33 No.2732495
>>2732490
Not that guy, but I've always felt awkward when going back in a story to get multiple endings. Is
there some sort of trick to getting reimmersed in the story? It always feel so much more like a
game rather than a story when I reenter the same narrative, and I'm never able to get into it the
same way I was before.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:33 No.2732496
>>2732481
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:35 No.2732502
>>2732489
>>Que The_Sky.jpg and "What's the right word for when it feels inside your heart that everything
in the world is alright?"
I cried hard at that. Not silent tears. My wife thought my dad died or some shit. nope. it was
that fucking ending.
I never knew some fucking /a/nons were talented enough to make shit like this. god fucking damn it
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:36 No.2732504
>>2732502
Yeah, I cried like a bitch after Rin's good end.
Reading that line still puts me back at that scene and I sometimes get a bit misty eyed. It was a
really great conclusion.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:37 No.2732505
>>2732485
Correction, most of the way through.
I can't comprehend wanting to spend more time than absolutely necessary with unlikable people,
real or fictional.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:38 No.2732506
>>2732495
Instead of playing it yourself, try leaving it for a week or so, then watch another playthough of
it on youtube. I find that helps since im not directly participating in the story.
on and unrelated not, ive almost never played a vn without a flowchart because I sometimes can't
handle bad -ends and don't want to go through the story again to get a better end.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:39 No.2732508
>>2732495
No special advice, really. If you do it too often, like with VNs that have tons of bad ends, it
does fuck immersion pretty bad. But for me the chunks of story in KS are large enough that I can
stay with it.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:40 No.2732509
>>2732506
>played a vn without a flowchart because I sometimes can't handle bad -ends and don't want to go
through the story again to get a better end.
I've done this too (especially for longer ones or secondary routes I want to take).
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:40 No.2732511
>>2732508
Most VNs with that many bad ends usually end shortly after the fork, so it's not too difficult to
go back to a recent save.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:41 No.2732512
>>2732506
Yeah I'll try that next time it's relevant.
And yeah I'm exactly the same with regards to bad ends. I tried going trough the Saber route of
FSN without - if you don't know it's exactly like >>2732508
says, it's filled with bad ends - and it fucked up my immersion. Stuck to the flowchart through
Heaven's Feel and UBW.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:45 No.2732516
>>2732506
in fact, I think the only VN I have played without a flow chart might have been KS since it was
one of the first I ever played.
But like I said, I didn't finish rins route and she was the only one I hadn't done. maybe I
should just go back and do it...
>>2732512
Yeah, FSN has so many bad ends it really turns more into a game about finding all the bad ends
than experiencing the story.
I just started HF but I went through all of UBW following the flow chart.
Some of the deaths are really interesting though.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:49 No.2732520
>>2732511
But it's not really about the difficulty or the interface management, but mostly about
investment. Like, when you're reading a book, you put in a pretty heavy investment of time and
energy and in return you get immersion into a (hopefully) good story. When that investment is
punished or your immersion is broken it's pretty obvious that you're going to be more careful
with putting a personal investment into that same story again afterwards.
It's like reading a book, and every now and then the book will throw a "The last two pages you
read were just a joke, the next page will continue from page x.". If it happens all the time,
it's no surprise that people will get a hold of guides that tell you which pages to read and
which to skip.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)01:49 No.2732521
>>2732511
The whole process of having to save at every checkpoint and reload frequently just chips away at
my immersion though
It was really hard the first time when I played FSN, because I wanted 100% so I was flow charting
into bad ends on purpose. It really messed with my immersion.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/29/15(Sun)02:01 No.2732531
How come Rin is always best girl?
