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This is resource BUMM089, an Archived Thread.
Discovered:13/7 -2015 08:35:23

Ended:13/7 -2015 12:02:35

Checked:13/7 -2015 12:52:31

Original location: http://boards.4chan.org/f/thread/2843281
Recognized format: Yes, thread post count is 27.
Discovered flash files: 1





File: Space Gnome.swf-(8.34 MB, 256x144, Other)
[_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:31:53 No.2843281

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:37:14 No.2843287

  its pretty good

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:41:40 No.2843292

  hell ya! so edgy

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:43:21 No.2843295

  this is true

  >>2843292
  > HAHAHA THIS IS EDGY I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEAN AM I COOL ENUFF FOR 4CHINZ

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:49:45 No.2843303

  >>2843295
  It's pretty dumb and the video maker seems to think his vapid arguments are actually deep,
  insightful and cool. Seems like typical teenage edge to me

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:51:50 No.2843308

  It's a bit biased to be honest, I feel if he didn't spout his smartass around everywhere and
  generalize, I'd be able to take him seriously.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:51:55 No.2843309

  Damn, the other thread died fast. But if the other dude is here, I'm still interested to see the
  thermal imaging stuff.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)02:54:21 No.2843311

  >>2843309
  Yep im here still.
  I can show you official websites. Officials made reports of this house.
  Spirits:
  https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=haunted+house+gary+indiana
  Can all these websites be lying about the same claim?
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/02/zak-bagans-buys-demonic-h_n_4713309.html
  Also, there were some medical officials that saw the levitation.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:01:39 No.2843314

  >>2843311
  >Can all these websites be lying about the same claim?

  1. Yes, it'd be possible for all of them to lie about the same claim.

  2. It's also possible for them to report the same thing, but just be wrong.

  And it didn't look like a whole lot of proof was provided outside of anecdotal evidence.

  And just because officials saw something, it could be wrong. There have been cases of people
  seeing the same thing and being wrong. We have professional illusionists and magicians who do
  that all the time. Or even people just being wrong/mass hallucinating the same thing.

  And I'm drawn between them. On one hand, I do believe that paranormal shit happens. Hell, I
  believe in paranormal stuff way beyond some spirits. Personally, I'd probably believe it. But I
  also know that it's gullible to buy into everything. I know that skepticism is necessary in order
  to find the truth and actually prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it exists.

  I just don't think most paranormal events have had that kind of evidence. There's anecdotal
  evidence and people saying things, but nothing that's really particularly solid. Nothing that'd
  even hold up in a court. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and we're just as
  bound by that as anyone else.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:03:01 No.2843315

  >>2843311
  Can 1.2 billion people by lying about Islam?
  It's pretty easy to sucker people into believing a beautiful lie than an ugly truth.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:03:19 No.2843316

  >>2843281
  "the religious freaks"
  "the atheists"

  *the atheist freaks

  normal people exist who are atheist just like normal people who exist are christian

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:04:35 No.2843317

  >>2843316
  I dont agree with alot of what he was saying. Just some concepts he has stated is worth
  considering.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:05:47 No.2843318

  >>2843314
  Anything demonic and paranormal stuff that happens is caused by spirits. Spirits of darkness and
  such. Most of them are just called demons who do seek to destroy, steal and kill.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:10:12 No.2843320

  >>2843309
  Well i'd love to chat more but this battery is dying and its very late at night. If i remember
  tomorrow, perhaps i can upload the flash again if you wish to talk more?

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:10:43 No.2843322

  >>2843318

  >Anything demonic and paranormal stuff that happens is caused by spirits.

  But how can we show that? Is Bigfoot, for example, a demonic spirit of some kind? Was Dyatlov
  Pass caused by spirits? Or what about spirits that come in the form of dead people? Are they
  demons?

  Because the whole ghost thing is very incompatible with Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. Because
  it's a misconception that once you die, you go right to heaven. You don't. Even in the Bible and
  those holy texts it never says that. You die and that's it, the next thing you know you're waking
  up for the Final Judgment and THEN go to whatever paradise god has chosen for his believers. Your
  spirit doesn't go anywhere until that Final Judgment when god gets all of the people up and then
  judges them. It's why you even see on artwork about the Final Judgment people coming out of their
  coffins. Their spirits never left in the first place. God wouldn't send you to heaven and then
  bring you back down to be judged. That's a modern thing people made up because it sounds nice and
  it just kinda caught on.

  So, if these spirits are in any way human, then whatever the spirit life may be, it's not the one
  from the Abrahamic religions.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:13:35 No.2843326

  >>2843281

  Here's your reply

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:14:17 No.2843327

  >>2843322
  No no this is just exactly what the bible talks about. Jesus delivered a man who had a legion of
  demons in him. Its not against Christianity. And we all possess a spirit. Not all spirits are
  evil. Angels are spirits. And we, we are human. We have a spirit and a soul. The bible explains
  all this.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:21:57 No.2843332

  >>2843327

  The idea of human spirits is very much against the Abrahamic faiths. They're not supposed to come
  back at all until Judgment Day when ALL will be judged. Nobody would go to heaven and come back
  down to be judged yet again. As I said, it's why all the artwork about it shows people rising
  from coffins. When they die, that's it until Judgment Day, which will seem like only a moment
  passing. Like you went to sleep. And then your spirit is sent to paradise or eternal death.

  But before that your soul isn't doing anything. It's waiting for Judgment Day to then rise up and
  stand before God to be judged. As I said, the idea that once you die you immediately go to heaven
  or hell is a new, modern invention that is nicer to hear than the actual truth. It was probably
  just a tale told to kids because it sounds nicer than what was written down, and just caught on
  and became a large, prevailing idea. Similar to how tales of Genesis often leave out the whole
  "Nephilim fucking people and creating hybrids and teaching people magic made god wipe out mankind
  in a flood" or that Lot fucked his two daughters because they thought the world ended after Sodom
  and Gommorah were destroyed.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:26:20 No.2843336

  >Advocating Hume's brand of bullshit
  Fuck off, please

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:28:58 No.2843339

  >>2843332
  Who said they were coming back? Leaving that out, its not against the bible. That moment you
  said, "Like you went to sleep" and going to heaven immediately after death... thats the same
  amount of time at least measured to the consciousness. The idea of having a human spirit isnt
  against the bible. Its stated in the bible.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:33:19 No.2843341

  >>2843339

  >Who said they were coming back?

  You, or the people claiming hauntings are done by human spirits.

  >The idea of having a human spirit isnt against the bible. Its stated in the bible.

  It is stated in the Bible. The human spirit to them does exist, but it can't be the cause of
  hauntings, even hauntings that look like people. Because their human soul cannot be there. It's
  stuck inside of the body as god decreed until they rise up on Judgment Day. It's for all intents
  and purposes dead until that day. So, there can't be any proof of the human soul, in let's say, a
  haunted house or anything like that. Because according to the Abrahamic faiths it is not possible
  until god decrees that they rise up and be judged.

  Or, if there is proof of human spirits at these places, then the Abrahamic faiths as we know them
  are either wrong on a fundamental level about the soul, or whatever spirit world there may be is
  nothing like what those faiths claim it is like. Because according to the Abrahamic faiths, there
  should be no way any human spirits are up and walking around before the day of judgment.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)03:33:40 No.2843342

  >>2843317
  yeah same

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)04:14:16 No.2843379

  I recall a theory a while back that ghosts are more or less what bloodstains are in the Souls
  games; replays left behind from the extra electromagnetic energy exerted by the human brain
  during a moment of extreme emotion. I don't give enough of a fuck to pull up pertinent data like
  the rest of the lazy fucks here who aren't really pulling up their citations.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)04:20:26 No.2843383

  >>2843379

  It's a shit theory anyway. How would a "replay" or psychic impression account for ghosts that act
  out more than just what happened? Or interact with people?

  And why would it only work for some people? Not all houses with such activity have amazingly soul
  crushing stories. So, why isn't every murder or death resulting in these impressions?

  Hell, they've found god damn torture chambers in dictatorships that didn't have ghosts laying all
  around. Half of the time you can go on a historical tour of such places. And I'd say that's far
  more likely to leave an impression than someone who just killed themselves in a house now
  sticking around.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)04:32:53 No.2843392

  >>2843281
  Just wait 1000 years and arguments like these will die off and they'll have the answer or not.

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)05:33:32 No.2843417

  jesus christ, this thread

  all these people acting as though what they do or don't believe is an issue

>> [_] Anonymous 07/13/15(Mon)05:58:02 No.2843427

  >>2843392
  I may do just that.
  see you in 3015



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