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[_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:23:35 No.2916780
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>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:30:07 No.2916785
kill me
might have to actually fucking vote for trump
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:34:20 No.2916786
Honestly it's hard to know every candidates tax plan.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:36:50 No.2916787
May be true, but it's not just one man/woman leading the country.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:51:55 No.2916792
>>2916786
Yeah, but if you're even slightly politically aware, you can discern that Trump's tax plan is the
polar opposite of Clinton's tax plan.
Seriously what the fuck do you people even look at in a candidate before you cast your vote?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:53:25 No.2916795
My response would have been: "I don't appreciate your ruse, your elaborate attempt to trick me".
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)01:55:18 No.2916799
>>2916792
No. People pick a party and don't care about the candidates. They just care if their "side" wins
or not.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)02:10:18 No.2916809
According to the swf, this is now a Spiderman thread.
A very fat Spiderman.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)02:18:50 No.2916814
This shit is precisely why America is fucked.
We are a nation of retards, run by retards.
What the mother fuck happened to us?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)02:39:36 No.2916828
>>2916814
Reagan happened
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)02:40:47 No.2916829
>>2916814
the jews
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)02:53:12 No.2916835
You guys think thats bad?
When I was in high school, we had a project where we did basically this, except we were asking
people to sign our petition. The trick was, our petition was just the exact working of the fourth
amendment to the US constitution (you know, the one that says law enforcement needs a warrant
from a judge to search or seize your belongings).
We literally could not find anyone who believed in the fourth amendment. Not one person.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:07:10 No.2916843
>>2916835
Wait.. am I reading that right?
Are you saying everyone around you thought law enforcement should be allowed to search your house
or take your shit without any government backing? Just steal your shit because it looked
suspicious?
>> [_] Anonymoos 10/01/15(Thu)03:08:29 No.2916844
>>2916835
Hahahahahaaha. SHIT!
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:22:24 No.2916856
>>2916843
No one was like 'Law enforcement should be able to steal whatever they want', but it was a common
complaint, that law enforcement would be unduly constrained if they had to get permission from a
judge every time they needed to investigate someone.
Im kind of a law nerd now. So, just for clarification the fourth amendment doesnt actually say
cops always need a warrant to search or seize. The exact wording says they cant search or seize
unreasonably, and that warrants have to be specific. The legal point here, is that not every
search and seizure requires a warrant.
Anyway, its pretty fucked up that no one actually cares for the fourth amendment right? Its like,
police brutality problems and NSA problems are always phrased as a people vs government issue.
Thats not the case at all. The reality is that the only people who care about privacy are the
government and minority interest groups like the EFF and the ACLU. Kind of makes me sympathize
with law enforcement a bit, because they do more to protect privacy rights than anyone else
actually wants them to do, AND, they get tons of shit from the political discussion about how
much privacy they violate. Its like they are damned if they do, and damned if they dont.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:28:24 No.2916858
>>2916856
Huh. Well, I browse /pol/ every once in a while, so I'm obligated to ask your thoughts on the 2nd
amendment. I recall hearing something about a judge's reinterpretation of the 2nd that pisses
them off.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:34:51 No.2916863
>>2916858
Well I dont know what Judge or opinion your talking about. But I mean, I like that the US
protects gun rights. Yeah I dont know what you are asking. That US citizens cant remain a violent
threat to the US government is a uniquely american trait, so therefore as an American I love it,
regardless as to whether it makes for good policy.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:45:33 No.2916866
>>2916814
It's the same everywhere m8
soundbytes, single-issue voting and irrelevant politics (tiem 4 woman in the white house :DDDD),
carry the day.
Or maybe you're right and it's just you fags, I saw Canada's Munk Debate, good stuff tbh.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:48:07 No.2916868
yeaa i rike hirry krittin
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:53:26 No.2916870
>>2916814
Americans arent dumber, they are just a combinations of affluent and confident. They are affluent
enough that they can afford to be dumb, and confident enough to just say whatever dumb shit they
can think of.
Its not a good thing, but, I do think its pretty bitchin that America can literally afford to be
dumb. We can just sit around being morons and say dumb shit and it doesnt matter at all.
Yuropoors cant afford to be dumb like Americans. They all live in these shitty bureaucratic nanny
states with inferior GDPs. Life is harder, and if they are outspoken and dumb bad things happen
to them.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)03:55:14 No.2916873
votin' bernie
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)04:22:01 No.2916885
I know that when trying to find people on the street to interview, you will have a hard time
finding people that aren't >>2916870
The point is, the people that want to be interviewed are the people that are going to say dumb
things on camera.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)04:26:39 No.2916888
>>2916856
I'm actually just starting to get interested in the laws of our nation and such. Do you know
anywhere I could get reliable information about our current laws?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)04:39:39 No.2916889
>>2916888
Well, it depends on if you mean Statute or laws. The whole US Federal Code is online. Meaning if
you just want to read statutes, they are out there. So when you see it in the news that Obamacare
or the USA freedom act passed, you can go read it.
Thats not law though, I dont think normal people realize that. Law is what gets produced in court
rooms, by judges. So if you want to study law I say go read court rulings. Its hard to know where
to point you, because so much of it is interesting. Try Korematsu vs the US, the famous case
where the SCOTUS upheld the internment of japanese citizens. US vs Jones is a pretty accessable
recent SCOTUS ruling.
Ive also read a lot of academic papers. My favorite scholars are Orin Kerr, Eugene Volokh, Randy
Barnett, and Eric Posner. Literally anything they have written is good. Richard Posner is widely
considered to be the best living judge. Judge Learned Hand is a famous judge. Justice Holmes is
considered to have been our best supreme court justice, and he wrote famous opinions supporting
forced sterilization, and the suppression of the community party. Brandeis is one of my
favorites. Justice Jackson is considered to be one of the best as well. Read any opinion by any
of them and you are bound to learn something valuable.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)04:47:27 No.2916890
>>2916889
I wasn't expecting such a good response.
Thank you very much kind anon. I'll check them out.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)05:00:00 No.2916891
>>2916870
>implying european politics aren't completely retarded
As a Britbong, I can confirm. Anyway about this yuropoors meme...
America is around 46 times the size of Britain. That makes us around the size of your average
state.
Your richest state, by GDP, is California $2.2 trillion (USD). It is over twice the size of
Britain.
Whereas our tiny island has a GDP of $2.9 trillion. Also our currency is worth more.
But perhaps we should compare the entire EU.
In terms of size is it less than half the size of America (4.3m sqkm vs 9.8m sqkm), but has a
total GDP of $18.5 trillion against America's $17.4 trillion.
So smaller Europe is actually richer than the USA even with broke counties like Greece, and
that's just the EU members.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)05:08:37 No.2916896
>>2916891
>a total GDP of $18.5 trillion against America's $17.4 trillion.
Well okay, but you guys also have ~66% more people than the US. So the GDP per capita is still a
lot smaller. Thats a more meaningful metric. As economic producers, each European person is
producing only like 70% of the value an American produces.
Anyway, you motivated me to check out wikipedias list of states, and its pretty diverse, just
like European states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
>> [_] dankest chiptune 10/01/15(Thu)05:13:51 No.2916898
>>2916792
people always vote against the candidate they dislike, not for the candidate they like
go watch some CGPgrey videos
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)05:28:12 No.2916906
>>2916896
We have shit-tier countries like Greece, Romania, the Baltic states, Portugal, Spain, Ireland,
Bulgaria, Italy, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Cyprus, Malta, Poland and the Czech Republic
bringing down our average. We don't even have Norway or Switzerland.
Many of those are poorer than your poorest states.
On top of that America has much more natural resources, particularly oil, than the whole of
Europe. And to fuck over Russia's economy you flooded the oil market with the Saudis so we are
now losing money on it.
Oh and most of your country is owned by the top 10%. So while the few get very rich have fun
going bankrupt over a broken leg.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)06:36:26 No.2916915
Americafag reporting -
I'm proud of Anon (and namefag :p ) tonight, youse guize are actually carrying on a rather
intelligent discussion - something I've not seen in many moons around here.
Can't really add much here, it's all been said above. Yeah, the stupidity involved in the voting
process is not inherently American, European, or any "an". It's part of human nature to become
sassy when fat. It's the fate of every civilization to collapse under its own weight once it
reaches a certain plateau - that weight was once carried by care in thinking, and striving for
something better - when that's been reached, the "Atlas" of people relaxes, and stops putting
forth the care it takes to remain vital. Then you get Rule for The Ignorant, by The Ignorant.
Founding principles cease to matter, and eventually the society is eroded away by non-fundamental
forces like Mars' atmosphere under the solar wind.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)07:16:44 No.2916933
>IM STILL NOT VOTING FOR TRUMP!!!!!
Wow, you really are a strong, independent womyn who dont need no cisgendered white males.
What a cunt, glad her face is so busted.
Also, reminder that your vote means nothing. I'd let dogs vote for all I care, it's not like it
matters. The electoral college can say "no fuck the popular vote" and vote for the other guy.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)07:37:51 No.2916942
>>2916814
Honestly?
Our culture. Women listen to shit like The View, Oprah, people think The Daily Show is unbiased
and factual, people are more interested in trends than anything. Look at the way half of the
people in the flash dressed, everyone cares more about what is cool than anything, even in
regards to voting issues.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/01/15(Thu)07:42:08 No.2916944
>>2916792
>Trump's tax plan is the polar opposite of Clinton's tax plan.
But it sounds like the polar opposite of any conservative tax plan, so is it really hard to
believe that liberals would mistake it for a liberal tax plan?
