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>> Anonymous 24jan2016(su)21:04 No. OP P1

MVOL020+.swf

For changelong, see official patreon.

APK-Version here:

https://anonfiles.com/file/73cc960fea7ff3b222cfa6ea09790df9

[IMG] MVOL020+.swf (2.67 MiB)
800x600, Compressed. 1 frame, 24 fps (00:00).
Ver15, AS3. Network access: Yes. Text: No.
Bitmaps: No. Audio: No. Video: No. <METADATA>
[find in archive]

>> Anonymous 24jan2016(su)22:23 No. A P2R1

Malware Bytes is blocking the link. Explain.

>> Anonymous 25jan2016(mo)03:02 No. B P3R2

Autism.jpg

>> Anonymous 25jan2016(mo)03:03 No. B P4

Nice virus

>> Anonymous 25jan2016(mo)03:17 No. C P5R3

Bunch of tinfoil hats over here

>> Anonymous 26jan2016(tu)11:22 No. D P6R4

>>27156
What link? Anonfiles? That's a fucking file-hoster you retard.

>> Anonymous 26jan2016(tu)11:31 No. D P7

Ah, I see what you mean now, it redirects to some bullshit. Seems like that site has some problems
lately, here is a mediafire one:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/d94i4ijyaylhu5k/MVOL020_Android.apk

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)07:52 No. A P8R5

>>27199
>>27200
I see. I'm guessing you probably assumed I was fucking with you. Not surprising considering the
jackasses that responded afterwards.

I should come clean: I wasn't even interested in downloading it. I was really just checking the
link.

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)08:11 No. C P9R6

>>27218

>I-I totally wasn't interested in this!
>I'm not a furfag, honest!

Just admit it. No one is going to have an issue with it. Everyone here is either a furry or a
closet furry.

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)08:38 No. A P10R7

>>27219
I'm hoping your not just baiting me, buddy.
Seriously, I'm mostly lurking, and occasionally posting something slightly helpful. Check links.
Report unwanted shit. Sometimes have fun.

My post does seem a little back-pedaling when I think about it now. Oh well. Hindsight is 20/20.

Now excuse me while I go and masturbate to actual animals. ;)

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)17:07 No. C P11R8

>>27220

I'm not baiting you. Everyone here is either a furry, or a closet furry that denies it as hard as
they can.

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)17:49 No. E P12R9

>>27224
What did I ever do to you, Anon?

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)22:13 No. C P13R10

>>27226

Why are you acting like I insulted you?

>> Anonymous 27jan2016(we)22:37 No. E P14R11

>>27234
Because you did.

>> Anonymous 28jan2016(th)01:14 No. C P15R12

>>27235

:^)

>> Anonymous 28jan2016(th)02:02 No. F P16R13

That sure was very animated

>> Lithier 29jan2016(fr)14:39 No. G P17R14

Please don't distribute the cheat-enabled version of my game. I use things like this to incentivize
people to donate, even if it's just a small amount.

I do try to get my game into as many people's hands as possible, but honestly, if you're playing
for the first time with the cheats on it kind of spoils the experience anyway.

You can always get the most recent public version here: http://mvolith.blogspot.com/p/play-game.html

Please support the game if you like it, and encourage others to do the same, or at least refrain
from discouraging them. Thank you!

>> Anonymous 29jan2016(fr)18:05 No. H P18R15

>>27309
Obligatory - yet sincere - thanks.

>> Anonymous 29jan2016(fr)20:23 No. I P19R16

>>27309
>>27309
Not being able to complete the game without cheats (achievements) makes it pretty hard to justify
skipping on the cheat vers.

>> Anonymous 29jan2016(fr)20:39 No. E P20R17

>>27309
>Please don't distribute the cheat-enabled version of my game.
>refrain from discouraging.
Devs like you hurt yourself more by trying to micromanage the internet.

If it's online it's free, period.
By actively trying to command people you just create more incentive to rip you off...

Remember SPORE?

>> Anonymous 29jan2016(fr)20:56 No. J P21R18

>>27309
Did you ever add the female portion, or is it still all male?
I heard it was good but I don't find the idea of fondling a wolf's penor and balls to get him to
like me very appealing

>> Lithier 30jan2016(sa)00:40 No. G P22R19

>>27318
Not sure what you're talking about, as achievements are enabled in the regular version, but
disabled in the cheat version. You can still complete the game in the cheat version, but the flow
is better regulated by the point and achievement system of the regular game. Either version can be
played to "completion" as far as the game is written so far.

>>27320
I'm not trying to create a paywall, I'm not doing DRM, and I'm not making any demands. I am asking
sincerely that people don't distribute the versions made specifically for supporters. MVOL+ doesn't
hide half the game away, it just adds a few nice little bonuses. You can still play the entire game
just fine with the public version. Hell, you'll have a better experience with the public version if
it's your first time.

Giving out the cheat version takes away the incentive for donators, which hurts me, and it
diminishes the experience for people that are trying the game for the first time, which hurts
everyone.

>>27321
Yes, actually, with v0.20 the full-female Lith has gone public! There are still a few scenes that
aren't supported yet, but the bulk of the game can now be played with just about any configuration
of gender and sex.

>> Anonymous 30jan2016(sa)04:28 No. K P23R20

>>27325
Cool game, cool developer. Keep up the good work.

>> Anonymous 30jan2016(sa)14:47 No. E P24R21

>>27325
I was just trying to tell you that all you're doing is getting the attention of all the people who
are now gonna distribute it with the sole purpose of pissing you off.
Even I was tempted out of old habit to make sure everyone would get this version after skimming
your post.

>the incentive for donators
See this HipsterWelfare(TM) definition of "Donation" irritates me.
It's NOT a donation if you do it to get something in return, in this case a different version of
the game, that's just called a trade.
(or a sponsorship under some circumstances)

But yeah, whatever...

>> Anonymous 31jan2016(su)04:35 No. H P25R22

>>28338
>It's NOT a donation if you do it to get something in return, in this case a different version of
the game, that's just
>called a trade.

You sir. I like your point and I agree with it.

>> Anonymous 31jan2016(su)06:22 No. I P26R23

Cant get all the achievements in a single playthrough.
Achievements reset on NG.

>> Horsie 31jan2016(su)10:35 No. L P27R24

>>28338
Yay! another semantics flame war!
"Donation" vs "Trade" is the new "reverse rape" vs "rape"

I love the Internet.

>> Anonymous 31jan2016(su)16:43 No. H P28R25

>>28352
Shaddup you. This ain't semantics - there's a difference between donating and buying. That's what's
concerning us here.
Puttin' it in another way, if a free-to-play game puts its funder's names in its credits, that's an
incentive to donate. But if it increased their level cap, gave 'em better weapons, or gave 'em any
sort of advantage over non-donators, then that ain't a donation anymore - it's a purchase.
Go outside and play while the adults talk.

>> Anonymous 31jan2016(su)16:54 No. M P29R26

My little lilith linked to malware, viruses and a botnet.

What a shock! The furfag is a sociopath!

>> Horsie 31jan2016(su)18:08 No. L P30R27

>>28357
Yay! I'm going outside! fun times!

>> Anonymous 3feb2016(we)01:23 No. N P31R28

>>28338
fukken this
How many people do you estimate "donate" to things on Patreon just for the incentives and not to
support a content creator? If the incentives magically vanished one day, how many people would stop
"donating?"

>> Lithier 3feb2016(we)04:43 No. G P32R29

>>28349
There are two types of achievements. Some are attached to a save file and will be lost when you
start a new game, because they mark milestones and give you points. The others are attached to your
main play file, and will persist if you start a new game, as they are there to mark big
achievements like finding every scene in the game or finding a particular ending.

>>28338
>>28357
I'm fairly certain you're just trying to frame malicious actions as activism, but if you want to
talk about this, sure.

Offering rewards and tokens of recognition for donations is not a new practice. Donate to a
charity, get a tote bag. Donate more, get a plaque. Donate a ton to a university, get a building
named after you. Nobody is claiming you're doing this to buy a plaque, you can order one for
yourself quite easily. The point is that you like what this organization does and you want to
support them, but you also feel like you want some kind of recognition for doing so. It's easier to
justify donating if you get SOMEthing in return, even if it's something small, because that makes
that small thing meaningful.

If I was offering a "free" story commission to every supporter over $X, then yes, that would be a
straight up purchase. Commissions have a particular, sometimes significant monetary value. If I
locked half the game behind a "premium" version and only gave it out to people that donated over
$X, then yes, that would be a paywall, and it would make the base game everyone could play a demo.
But that's not what I'm doing.

The content that I offer as rewards for donators is a series of small bonuses that are targeted
specifically at people that already love the game. The cheat version assumes you've already played
the game several times through and just want an easier way to find particular scenes you liked
before, or try them out in new ways. One of the highest rewards is literally a copy of the game
with your name on it, very much in the same spirit of a plaque, as mentioned above.

The difference is about the nature of the content, and about the intentions behind it. The cheat
version of the game is not a product that is so much better than the original it obviously has a
greater financial value as a product. To a new player, it is WORSE than playing a normal copy of
the game. The only additional content it offers is a small preview of upcoming content, which will
be public in the near future. These are things which might be considered "priceless" to a dedicated
fan, and a worthy token to receive after donating to a cause they deeply enjoy, but I could not in
good conscience "sell" the cheat version alongside the regular version. It does not have any
significant monetary value.

It's not "MVOL, but better." It is a peripheral for a particular set of people. It is a symbol of
my thanks to people that have supported the game. It has inherent meaning. It literally says thank
you for donating on the front page. If it has any value, like the tote bag or the plaque, it is in
the fact that it is a unique, authentic artifact of a good deed that the donator has done. They
cannot get this particular product just anywhere, and only people that donated can get it. That is
its entire value. So when you distribute this item, not only are you discouraging interested people
from donating and ruining the game for new players, but you're insulting the people that are good
enough to donate to something they believe in, and devaluing --not in money, but in meaning-- the
badge of accomplishment they have received for doing one small, good deed.

I know that life can be painful sometimes, but there are people out there that still believe in
being kind and doing things because they think that it is right and good. They will pay money
purely to show their appreciation for quality and artistic accomplishment. This creates an economy
not of money, but of goodwill. I won't say that I'm not sore about the money I may be losing by
seeing this version of the game in free distribution, but the insult is greater than the injury. I
am not and have no intention of ever trying to "stop" you or "command" you. I am telling you that
what you are doing hurts me, and it hurts the people that enjoy this game, and I am asking you to
stop.

Now. Did anyone bother to actually read this, or are we just invoking the joys of anarchy because
we want to paint ourselves as heroic pirates, liberating jewels from the corrupt and wealthy? I can
promise you, I'm not getting rich off this anytime soon.

>> Anonymous 3feb2016(we)04:55 No. C P33R30

>>28435

I'm sympathetic to you, but I just want to let you know that people are now going to attack you
just for writing a wall of text. People here are closet autistic.

>> Anonymous 3feb2016(we)08:40 No. J P34R31

>>28436
>closet
people here are replying to a porn thread of a furry game, like 85% chance they actually are
autistic

>> Anonymous 3feb2016(we)19:55 No. E P35R32

>>28435
>I'm fairly certain you're just trying to frame malicious actions as activism.
Thanks...
In that case I'm fairly certain that no matter what I reply, you're still gonna claim it's
"Donations"

If you get something in return it's not a donation.

Anonymously give 200$ to the homeless starving elderly children who're struggling with obesity via
phone and hang up before they can say "Thank you for your donation" that's a donation.

If you take the time to give your Name, Address and send them a photo so they can make you a plaque
and a bust, you're just buying an ego boost package.

Do you "Donate" to a prostitute?
After all, she doesn't give you anything but her thanks right?

Also just to make it perfectly clear, I'm not a wanna-be Robin Hood and have no problem with you
making money.
I just do not agree with your definition of Donation, and I got pissed that you introduced yourself
to this thread by pulling the "I'm the Author, now I'll tell you what..." act that so many
delusional assholes have done before.

Have you ever read some of the manic ramblings your paranoid dev colleagues add on their sites and
to their preloaders?

>> Lithier 3feb2016(we)22:27 No. G P36R33

>>28449
If you want to frame giving money to a good cause and wanting to feel good about it as "buying an
ego boost," then fine, it's an emotional transaction. A purchase of good feelings, rather than
material goods.

It doesn't sound like we're gonna see eye to eye about the nature of donations, but that wasn't
really what I took issue with. It sounded, to me, like you and folks agreeing with you were
implying it was morally sanctionable to rip off and distribute this file because I was the same as
some publisher like EA, putting all the good stuff behind a paywall and always finding new, often
destructive ways to extort the people interested in my work or something.

If you're talking about indie devs flipping their lids, I think I've seen a little of it. I know
I've seen some things about artists going bonkers about their work showing up anywhere they don't
specifically want it. But it sounds like you, at least, don't feel that I've actually brought
anything too objectionable to this thread after all?

I don't expect my actions here to right out stop my supporter content from being distributed, but I
wanted to at least try to make people aware of the damage they're doing, and for little gain. I
only even saw this page because I was about to post the regular game to this site, but I assumed
that with this copy sitting here, it would either be ignored or maybe even attacked as
redundant/competing :/

>> Anonymous 3feb2016(we)23:31 No. H P37R34

>>28453
It's obvious you are not going to accept our point that these aren't 'donations'. That's fine - do
whatever you wish. But don't expect us to inconvenience ourselves on your behalf (including
respecting your requests). After all, we can do as we wish, as well.
You have all the power here. All we can do is react.

>> Lithier 4feb2016(th)03:50 No. G P38R35

>>28455
I disagree on a basic level with the claim, and as is usually the case with any argument, people
will not radically change their basic beliefs just because someone else asked them to. This goes
both ways. I appreciate that you've discussed this with me in a civil and constructive manner,
though. I honestly hadn't expected this friendly of a response.

As for power, I'm not sure what you're referring to. The option to request a takedown? I don't
intend to do so any time soon. It won't accomplish anything except antagonizing people that seem to
get excited by this sort of thing. I just ask that people think twice about posting the donator
content, because there's more to consider than "yay free premium content for my buddies" and "lol
fuck that guy for trying to make money off art."

I've been making it a habit to post the new versions of the game on various sites like this with
every other big update, one week after the main release, so that I have time to shake out any bugs
that come up before posting the "final final" version here for you guys to enjoy. If you guys want
the game posted with every update, or at the same time as the main release, I'll be happy to
oblige. I do like to get my game out there and in people's hands, just... not this version.

Thanks again, for taking the time to really talk with me.

>> Anonymous 4feb2016(th)08:09 No. O P39R36

>>28460
holy shit what an autist

>> Anonymous 4feb2016(th)11:36 No. B P40R37

Come get your fresh autists! Steaming hot and fresh!

>> Anonymous 4feb2016(th)21:59 No. C P41R38

>>28462

What did I tell you, Lithier? :V

>> Poltergeist 4feb2016(th)22:11 No. P P42R39

Lith. Bro. You aren't accomplishing shit here. Telling people on swfchan not to distribute a flash
will do absolutely nothing. It's like going on /b/ and asking people to stop posting
loli/trap/ylyl/dickrate/rekt threads. It will never happen, and you're wasting time by doing it.

Go finish your game.

>> Poltergeist 4feb2016(th)22:11 No. P P43

Lith. Bro. You aren't accomplishing shit here. Telling people on swfchan not to distribute a flash
will do absolutely nothing. It's like going on /b/ and asking people to stop posting
loli/trap/ylyl/dickrate/rekt threads. It will never happen, and you're wasting time by doing it. Go
finish your game.

>> Anonymous 5feb2016(fr)02:50 No. Q P44R40

what are the cheats and how do I input them?

>> Anonymous 5feb2016(fr)02:50 No. Q P45

What are the cheats, and how do I use them?

>> Anonymous 5feb2016(fr)22:38 No. D P46R41

>>28482
The 'Cheat' is the magic clove that you can use somewhere (look around, it's in some categorie).
You can touch yourself and Lith and change stuff about her/yourself.

>> Anonymous 7feb2016(su)10:57 No. R P47R42

Lith. Bro. You aren't accomplishing shit here. Telling people on swfchan about your autism will do
nothing. It's like going on /autist/ and asking people to stop posting autistic/autist/autism
threads. It will never happen, and you're wasting time by doing it.

Go fuck yourself.

>> Anonymous 7feb2016(su)10:58 No. S P48R43

Lith. Bro. You aren't accomplishing shit here. Telling people on swfchan about your autism will do
nothing. It's like going on /autist/ and asking people to stop posting autistic/autist/autism
threads. It will never happen, and you're wasting time by doing it.

Go fuck yourself.