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[_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:08:55 No.

  Terrible OC. I'm sorry.

Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:14:31 No.

  firstlol

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:22:46 No.

  how do i do an action ? /controls ?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:26:19 No.

  >>2995472
  Not OP so I don't know the controls outside of the arrow and X buttons.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:34:35 No.

  oh man, this is great

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:35:05 No.

  >>2995472
  arrow keys and x/z for action

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:37:26 No.

  I seriously don't think this is funny.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:37:49 No.

  >>2995480
  You just didn't get the bipolar ending

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:39:11 No.

  >>2995481
  Not that anon, but I got that ending. What's the other?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:40:06 No.

  >>2995463
  >>2995463
  its perfect

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:41:40 No.

  >>2995481
  >>2995482
  Forget it. I got the other ending just then.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:43:12 No.

  >>2995481
  how do you get it?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:43:14 No.

  This is actually not a bad imitation as far as gameplay is concerned. Just fix the writing to be
  a little more consistent (ending period, sometimes using texting abbreviations). If you want to
  actually copy Undertale, write in perfect prose except to achieve some kind of effect.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:44:38 No.

  >>2995486
  there are 3 possible endings, think of what you could do differently

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:46:33 No.

  The good ending is worth it. PRAISE TRUMP.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:54:04 No.

  how the hell do i kill the fattie

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:56:37 No.

  >>2995489
  What's the good ending?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:57:03 No.

  >>2995495
  Keep stepping back.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:57:22 No.

  >>2995495
  Just take a step back

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)04:59:21 No.

  >>2995499
  >>2995498
  thanks

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:03:56 No.

  Is it possible to spare the first enemy?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:04:52 No.

  >>2995504
  >TRIGGERING INTENSIFIES

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:08:56 No.

  goty right here

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:09:05 No.

  Why won't the controls work for me?
  Many flash games here don't work for me.

  I use fagfox and have the newest flash plugin... why won't it work?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:10:07 No.

  >mountain dew shoots green projectiles
  >hurts
  You betrayed me OPl

  Also x doesn't exit the current menu like I believe it did in Undertale. Still, this is
  surprisingly well done.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:13:30 No.

  This was more cringy than 99% of cringe threads and more unfunny than niggerposting.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:16:43 No.

  >>2995508
  Did you make sure to click the game once?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:17:16 No.

  >>2995512
  >niggerposting
  This could mean a few things.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:20:25 No.

  Got all 3 endings. Not worth the 5 minutes.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:22:27 No.

  Perhaps better than the actual game, since it at least has the decency to end when the joke's
  told.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:34:16 No.

  I laughed, I cried, I cheered. 10/10 game.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)05:51:24 No.

  excellent post my friend

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)06:02:18 No.

  Frisk doing those sick flips was some funny shit, 10/10

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)06:06:44 No.

  Fucking waste of my time.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)06:19:50 No.

  i tried any ending.
  the good one is funny, as well as the bipolar, as well as the one where you just run away.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)06:30:16 No.

  >>2995512
  Go back to posting Bananas you fucking faggot.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)06:48:36 No.

  >>2995463
  This is extremely good. Well done OP!

  You have nothing to be sorry about.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:00:14 No.

  are you pretending this is an actual game?
  the buttons don't do anything, just stuck forever here

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:02:12 No.

  >>2995565
  Yes anon, all 27 of us are collectively pretending it's a game..

  For real though, the controls are arrow keys + x/z that seem to do the same thing

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:02:43 No.

  >>2995566
  except nothing happens

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:04:27 No.

  >>2995567
  someone suggested to make sure you have actually clicked the game so it is in focus. I'm playing
  fine using latest chrome

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:04:59 No.

  >>2995569
  had to switch to chrome, firefox just didn't want to work

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:05:02 No.

  >>2995567
  click the game
  >>2995517

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:06:01 No.

  >>2995571
  I clicked 20 times

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:09:13 No.

  >>2995572
  I don't know what to say, try switching browsers then I guess that's really weird.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:09:25 No.

  >>2995571
  i'll click your balls kid

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:12:35 No.

  >>2995463
  8/10. needed more flips.
  But seriously though, if you really did made this, pretty good. Not really my taste for the most
  part, but still well done.
  Also, if you check the fat guy more than twice I think the game freezes.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:17:30 No.

  Sick flips is the best ending.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:25:33 No.

  This is amazing.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:27:34 No.

  Well, I've found 4 endings. Run away twice, have mercy twice, have mercy once and kill the enemy
  the other time and just killing them both. Anyone got any else?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:28:43 No.

  >>2995463
  CANT STUMP THE TRUMP

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:30:52 No.

  >>2995586
  How to mercy and what is it? I keep triggering the SJW and the fatty just gets guilty from salad
  and diet pills

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:32:58 No.

  >>2995588
  Keep checking the SJW and have a healthy salad with the fatty. After you've done that, go to the
  mercy bar and hit mercy.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:33:53 No.

  >>2995591
  Checking. That's brilliant.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:36:43 No.

  Wow this sucks. Is this what undertale plays like? If so then I'm so sorry for those who fell for
  the meme.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:39:15 No.

  >>2995586
  Have mercy and run away is another, same flips though different pretext

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:41:06 No.

  >>2995576
  Nevermind. Got the Pacifist ending.
  10/10

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:43:29 No.

  >>2995597
  How do you give mercy to the fat one?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:44:07 No.

  >>2995598
  Apparently you just eat the salad and you're done.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:45:50 No.

  >>2995599
  Okay. Thank you.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)07:53:58 No.

  I like how the music changes if you trigger the SJW.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:14:24 No.

  >>2995463
  femanon approved, because you need at least one person with a vagina to like it or else it could
  be blamed on my soggy knees.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:16:30 No.

  >>2995566
  >steamshovel harry

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:23:25 No.

  It's pretty great to step into a thread and see all of its inhabitants enjoying the posted
  content. Good on you /f/ for having faggot population 0.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:23:53 No.

  Thats awesome op

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:26:01 No.

  >>2995622
  I like benis :3

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:32:48 No.

  >>2995624
  To each post a purpose, I guess.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:35:20 No.

  So is this what memertale is like?

  Shit, I'm glad I avoided this shitty game and it's even shittier fanbase.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:40:42 No.

  >>2995626
  nah people exaggerate mostly because there's a gay couple in the game and some other shit. it is
  a bit heavy on the moral beatdowns if you don't go for pacifist but otherwise it ain't half as
  SJW as people claim it to be.

  and genocide's pretty fun, except for the grinding.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:46:43 No.

  >>2995629
  I wasn't talking about the SJW shit, I was talking about the faggot as self satisfied "So quirky
  humor", lame gameplay, and no effort pixel shit.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:51:55 No.

  >>2995629
  gay couple is Papyrus and Sans?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:52:07 No.

  >>2995635
  I feel like if pixel art was so easy more folk would do it.
  That is to say, conveying ideas with broad strokes seems easier than misplacing a single pixel
  and conveying a totally different idea than what you meant.
  Also, define "quirky" in this context, if you don't mind.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:53:08 No.

  >>2995643
  lol

  >In case you were serious, though: it's Alphys and the fish.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:56:07 No.

  triggering the angry sjw is the best part. great choice in trigger music.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:57:20 No.

  >>2995647
  This.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)08:59:54 No.

  >>2995635
  again, genocide route comes through for most of that. the usual humor (which isn't all that
  great) is cut short since your character gives 0 shits about that, so it's actually quite fun to
  see him do what you want to and just skip the bullshit.

  the gameplay is taken to the "limit" with the undyne and sans battles, given they're the hardest
  ones in the game, and perhaps the only that are somewhat challenging and need multiple tries.

  the art you get used to but i'd be lying if i said it was good. but you forget about it as you
  play.

  i didn't think much of it either and still don't think it's anywhere near as great as people say
  it is, but it's worth playing.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:05:12 No.

  >>2995463
  Thank you for this OP, this made my day, also the chara dance was pretty cute (even though I
  already saw the video from where it came from)
  I'm glad there's still people like you taking their time to make stuff like this.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:07:59 No.

  >Have to check multiples time to calm the angry SJW down
  fucking genius

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:13:53 No.

  >77 replies

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:14:10 No.

  >>2995644
  >If it was easy more people would do it
  Oh, you mean like almost every single shitty low effort indie game coming out?
  >It's so hard because if you misplace a single pixel it changes soo much!
  >He says about shitty sprites that look worse than you would see on a sinclare spectrum

  >Define quirky
  You know exactly what I mean, the "oh so funny rapid shot zaney humor" with the text bubbles and
  the topical references and the meta and all that shit that doesn't fit at all but is shoved in
  anyway.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:17:01 No.

  >>2995658
  Calm down, Captain Contrarian.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:18:16 No.

  I never enjoyed Undertale and stopped playing it wthin a few hours.
  I get it's supposed to be taking retro aspects and merging them with modern social and moral
  storyline game mechanics.
  But having played story rich games I felt there was really no story. It was like climbing a
  mountain of shit covered in over used memes. The jokes gets old after a while, everything stinks
  and you grow tired of climbing.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:18:57 No.

  >>2995661
  >If you don't like some indie bullshit only liked by hipsters in the first place, for any reason,
  you are a contrarian just trying to feel special

  You can't make this shit up.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:21:06 No.

  >>2995664
  There are flaws but you make out they're a lot bigger than they are. Why are you mad anyway? He
  agrees with you for the most part.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:21:52 No.

  >>2995657
  You should see what happens when somebody post a loli flash game.

  >>2995658
  Why are you even getting so worked up?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:22:46 No.

  fucking great fangame.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:24:45 No.

  >>2995667
  >You should see what happens when somebody post a loli flash game.
  They don't get many more replies than the average thread. I think you mean flashes about politics
  and stuff related related to it.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:25:17 No.

  Did you have to use that cancer-embodied whore as the protag, though?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:26:10 No.

  >>2995670
  Don't forget naked men and time phenomenon

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:27:15 No.

  >>2995666
  >T-those flaws are tiny and nonsignificant even though the flaws you pointed out the main draw of
  the game
  Wow great argument.
  >he agreed with you for the most part
  Every point he made was one of dissention. How the hell does that conflate to him agreeing with
  me for the most part?

  >>2995667
  >Why are you getting so worked up?
  Because I'm not? Shit have you people forgotten how to do anything but timidly disagree with each
  other like mousey librarians in the break room? Sorry I took an assertive tone fuckface, I'll try
  to spare your feelings next time.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:27:55 No.

  >>2995670
  Well I haven't lurked /f/ in months but I saw some porn games causing some 150+ replies
  shitstorms, which is always funny considering how small /f/ is.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:31:30 No.

  >>2995671
  It's the rep for /v/.

  >>2995672
  Yeah, those, too.

  >>2995673
  >Wow great argument.
  It's not an argument. I just pointed out you exaggerated. You seem to do it a lot.

  >Because I'm not?
  Not more than usual, maybe.

  >>2995674
  Really? I haven't seen that.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:31:32 No.

  >>2995673
  Well aren't you one mad ass faggot?
  You're literally arguing with yourself here.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:31:36 No.

  >>2995674
  >how small /f/ is
  Not small at all?
  Stop this shitty meme already. /f/ is much bigger than you think. It just happens to have a much
  lower lurks-to-posters ratio than other boards.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:32:36 No.

  >>2995676
  >It's the rep for /v/.
  It's the rep for the faGGotry and the dipshits over at 8gag. OP is probably one of them too.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:33:08 No.

  >>2995677
  >U mad
  >Literally to mean figuratively
  How's you first day on the internet going champ? I'd guess it's going pretty well, you are
  already blending in with all the other kids your age!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:34:18 No.

  >>2995673
  >I took an assertive tone
  Haha holy shit internet tough guy right there, I wish I could post some smug anime faces to make
  you even more assertive.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:34:52 No.

  >>2995678
  You mean higher lurker to poster ratio?

  Which means there are more lurkers than posters.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:37:29 No.

  >>2995680
  You're literally getting meme'd on right now.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:37:34 No.

  >>2995663
  For the most part I agree, but just to elaborate on it, only genocide is the only real reason to
  play it (the game removes the jokes once you enter it). Otherwise it's just another retro indie
  game. People are just sperging over how they "chose" the moral option of doing pacifist over
  genocide.
  But even then, genocide doesn't have any actual difficulty nor the moral weight of Covenant of
  the Plume, for example.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:38:35 No.

  >>2995658
  >What is satire?

  You can't make this shit up.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:39:03 No.

  >>2995676
  >You exaggerated
  How can one exaggerate flaws in the core appeal of something? If you do my fucking roofing,
  guarantee it's going to be waterproof, and one rainstorm in it leaks. Saying that the roof is
  complete shit is not "exaggerating" it's flaws, it's pointing out that it's a god damn shitty
  roof.

  >Not more than usual, maybe.
  Sure, if it makes you better to think that me calling out bullshit makes me upset or worked up,
  then fine. I can't change your erroneous beliefs.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:40:29 No.

  >>2995685
  You have no understanding of satire if you think that crap like this is satire.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:40:54 No.

  Will all people who want to argue about undertale please fuck right back off to /v/?

  I'm certain there's a thread of the same low quality as this one up right now.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:41:36 No.

  >>2995686
  Except games and roofs are totally different from one another. Unless, of course, carpenters
  weren't carpenters but were, instead, artists. Then their work wouldn't be defined by results but
  by opinions.

  Please only compare comparable things.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:45:47 No.

  >>2995687
  Wait... I just now realized the correct question to ask. It wasn't "what is quirky humor" but
  "what is good humor in your book?" You know, since that actually asks you to provide something
  concrete to your argument. Otherwise, it's just an opinion. (cite reply about art being mostly a
  matter of opinion anyway)

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:46:02 No.

  >>2995684
  the game would be 100% better if it didn't encourage you to go the pacifist way. maybe that would
  require the meta aspect to be reworked to an extent, but otherwise it would be better.

  i don't mean not having people be mad at you on genocide, it's only logical that the monsters
  would try to kill you if you're a fucking butcher, but cut down on the guilt tripping, the meta
  commentary about your reasons and the whole "you went genocide so now you can never have a happy
  ending again" stuff.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:47:10 No.

  >>2995686
  >first thing
  Good analogy, but you're downplaying the game.

  >second thing
  I didn't imply that. You were a little flustered before I replied once.

  >>2995688
  You can post flashes in reply to threads? Rhetorical question btw.

  >>2995689
  Bait or a joke? Either way, it's good.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:47:41 No.

  >>2995691
  Wait, it actually prevents you from ever having a good end if you do genocide first?
  Now, that actually sounds like a genuinely shitty design choice.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:49:09 No.

  >>2995692
  Games are guaranteed to have leaks in them. Comparing them to roofs is inherently unfair.
  >This is me refusing to refuse to explain my reasoning.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:50:33 No.

  >>2995689
  >games are ART! so you can't judge it by anything, thanks duchamp.
  Oh fuck off with this it's all relative, art is above reproach and compare, etc shit.

  >>2995690
  I fail to see what my preferred type of humor has to do with the fact that this type of rapid
  fire zany modernist humor is absolutely crass and unrefined shit. Flash in the pan, all show no
  substance bullcrap.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:51:33 No.

  >>2995694
  Also, please let common sense guide one's thoughts away from the idea that I'm somehow defending
  games that were actually made with shitty standards just for cash grabbing.
  Let us also use common sense to understand that games like Raven's Cry didn't get the same
  acclaim as games like Undertale, Bastion, Braid, etc. and that such a thing isn't a fluke.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:52:54 No.

  >>2995689
  >games are art so they're excused from criticism and it's all subjective

  fuck right off with this shit. shitty art is still shit regardless of being art. just because a
  game can be considered an artistic piece and/or tries to convey a message it does not mean it has
  no flaws, much less objective ones.

  you sound like the kind of retard that would assume a shitty sculpture is shitty on purpose as
  part of some sort of commentary, rather than lack of talent.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:54:11 No.

  >>2995695
  >Oh, fuck off with this [I have the high ground Aniki-san].
  Please refer to my guide on common sense below. >>2995698

  >I fail to see something humor etc.
  The reason your preferred type of humor is relevant is because showing an example of what you
  like shows that you're not just a hate monger devoid of appreciation for any kind of comedy. That
  is to say, if you don't like pie, then you're a shitty judge of what's a good pie.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:55:17 No.

  >>2995700
  >TETSUOOOOOO!
  Common sense guide, here: >>2995698

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:58:29 No.

  Should've inb4'd shitstorm.

  >>2995694
  >Biting low quality bait / not getting an obvious joke
  >Replying to the wrong post
  Calm down.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:58:41 No.

  >>2995698
  >It's not a fluke, they are objectively good, and that means that now only subjective opinions
  have any bearing on them
  ( •᷄ὤ•᷅)?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)09:58:44 No.

  >>2995693
  not exactly. SPOILERS AHEAD

  after you go genocide you basically have to sell your soul to chara (for more detail check the
  wiki or something) to play again.

  what this does is that from that point onwards any true pacifist run becomes a "soulless
  pacifist" one where everything seems normal except at the very end it shows that chara took over
  and fucked everyone up, thus voiding the happy ending. it's actually much more subtle than it
  sounds and many people might never have noticed it, it's mostly a mental weight because you
  basically screwed everyone's happiness forever just to see what genocide was like. i think
  neutral routes are unaffected though

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:01:28 No.

  >>2995711
  I used those games as examples because they are easy targets for "shitty indie titles that don't
  deserve the success they got". The mentioning of them not being flukes is in regard to how they
  succeeded with high consistency while genuinely bad titles flopped.
  >Also, see a recent TotalBiscuit video detailing how even good games can flop, too.
  >>2995710
  You clearly read my post in a different tone than what I posted it in.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:04:12 No.

  >>2995715
  >succeeded with high consistency
  ( ?´_ゝ｀)

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:04:22 No.

  >>2995715
  Yeah I did. You're not the anon I thought. I'm getting pretty tired.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:09:11 No.

  >>2995717
  At this point, the faces are vague and un-meaningful.
  I could continue to explain what I meant by them having a high consistency of success or what
  that even means but without proper questions or feedback it is purposeless.
  >Only weirdos argue for the sake of change rather than to hurt others.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:09:37 No.

  >>2995703
  >>2995705
  >guide on common sense

  calling others out on "pretending to have the high ground" while doing the exact same shit by
  referring to your post as a guide to common sense is pretty ironic.

  regardless, what exactly was your point? just because a game doesn't flop while another does mean
  that game is flawless or excused from criticism. by that logic every single FPS or sports game
  that didn't flop is a great game.

  i sincerely hope you're not trying to counter criticism on undertale by saying that if a lot of
  people liked it it's good instead of using an actual argument, because that's what it sounded
  like.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:10:38 No.

  >>2995727
  doesn't mean*

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:11:19 No.

  >>2995725
  Maybe you should just explain your bullshit terms in your post instead of heckling me when I
  fucking point out that you have explained or expounded upon nothing with each post.

  Also who the fuck are you quoting at the bottom of each of your fucking posts?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:14:34 No.

  >>2995730
  >Also who the fuck are you quoting at the bottom of each of your fucking posts?
  see >>2995677

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:15:04 No.

  >>2995727
  Before reading the rest of your post, I want to point out that what I'm doing isn't putting
  myself up on a pedestal but, rather, chopping off the stilts others are using. Even ground is
  important to me.

  Also, regarding the flop/not-flop bit, I'd have appreciated you pointing to that for reference.
  Sake of convenience and clarity of communication and all that.

  Anyway, most of the points I'm making aren't that the games are good but that most criticisms
  being thrown their way are flawed. In fact, it's a compliment to even call bold faced
  antagonization criticism.

  My point isn't elevation but neutralization.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:16:05 No.

  >>2995732
  Okay, thanks for your shitty memes. That doesn't explain your totally nonsensical posting style
  where you greentext a line for no good reason half the time. I don't know what shithole you come
  from, but here that's not normal.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:17:28 No.

  >>2995730
  Being unspecific then heckling (let me borrow that term for a minute) me when I point out that
  you have explained or expounded upon nothing with each post accomplishes literally nothing.
  (jaykay. It accomplishes just a little bit of something just like how saging accomplishes
  something by doing nothing).

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:18:11 No.

  So what is it?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:19:16 No.

  >>2995736
  I've never seen one before, no one has, but I'm guessing it's a white hole.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:19:22 No.

  >>2995734
  You're replying to the wrong guy. The green texting at the bottom is to be a side note or
  supporting thought pattern to help guide someone towards my way of thinking. Also, being caustic
  and hateful just makes your life awful. I'd advise either stopping that or getting away from the
  things that make you that way.
  >BOOBIES AHAHAHAHAHA!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:20:17 No.

  >>2995737
  A white hole?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:20:24 No.

  >>2995734
  I'm the guy who was memeing on you earlier in the thread, you probably won't believe me but i'm
  literally eating a god tier hand-made bolognese with pasta right now.
  Remember anon, it's not because multiple posts disagree with you that it's the same person.
  Faggot.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:21:12 No.

  Is greentexting at the bottom a new meme?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:21:18 No.

  >>2995739
  Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
  A black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a while hole returns it.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:21:24 No.

  >>2995727
  >first bit
  That's not what he did though? And that's not what he said you were doing? He just told you not
  to make baseless assumptions.

  >second bit
  Also not his point.

  >>2995730
  >who the fuck are you quoting at the bottom of each of your fucking posts?
  Plz gb2 >>>/s4s/ desu lad. #Rude btw.

  >>2995739
  Every action has an opposite and equal reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the
  universe; a white hole returns it.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:21:28 No.

  >>2995735
  You know out of kindergarten most people usually grow out of the "I am rubber and you are glue"
  comeback. It's nice to see that there are some people like you who are, shall we say "young at
  heart" and are willing to make shitty content less posts instead of correcting and defining what
  they are trying to say. It really warms my heart

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:22:47 No.

  >>2995743
  Something spewing time
  *dons fur hat*
  back into the universe?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:23:37 No.

  >>2995740
  Oh I'm sorry I couldn't tell one anonymous poster appart from another, how terrible and carless
  of me.

  >>2995738
  You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:24:20 No.

  >>2995746
  Precisely.
  That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:24:56 No.

  >>2995741
  yes now spread it far and wide my brother in memeology

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:25:23 No.

  >>2995748
  What time phenomena?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:25:24 No.

  >>2995748
  Ay, wait a minute. I missed the discussion.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:26:09 No.

  >>2995744
  I'd honestly rather be a kindergartener than a middle-schooler (comment about the whole "I'm a
  happy dog" response to "you're a gay bitch" bit.)
  Anyway, I was using your exact thought pattern on you in a hope of getting you to see that you
  were doing the exact thing you criticized me for doing. All the while, you've continued to make
  it a point that you don't want an explanation by continuing to be a caustic dickhead.

  >>2995747
  >Your mother was a hamster
  That explains a lot. (queue 4chan conversation bot to continue this conversation chain into its
  predictable end of someone saying they have to go to a party or get laid because they don't want
  to just leave and have there be the misunderstanding that they left from being upset).

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:26:33 No.

  >>2995751
  We all did.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:28:10 No.

  Time is occurring at random pockets.
  The laws of causality no longer apply.
  An action no longer leads to a consequence!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:28:14 No.

  >>2995747
  >Oh I'm sorry I couldn't tell one anonymous poster appart from another, how terrible and carless
  of me.
  Nah man you just thought the emoji anon was replying to himself to put you in an emotional
  bamboozle.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:30:38 No.

  >>2995752
  >Anyway, I was using your exact thought pattern on you in a hope of getting you to see that you
  were doing the exact thing you criticized me for doing
  I did nothing of the sort.
  > you've continued to make it a point that you don't want an explanation by continuing to be a
  caustic dickhead.
  So somehow it's my fault that you won't explain your basic argument, because I was "caustic"?
  Also
  >Caustic
  Wow, what are you triggered? Fuck off to whatever retard bin you came from please.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:30:57 No.

  >>2995755
  So what is it?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:32:17 No.

  >>2995757
  ONE NAKED MAN

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:32:18 No.

  >>2995757
  >Nuh-uh.
  Yuh-huh.
  >Stop tawkin' in unfuhmilliah lenguedgises.
  No.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:32:37 No.

  >>2995758
  We just don't know.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:33:19 No.

  >>2995759
  MFOR FNKEKM DNDE

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:33:48 No.

  UH! Yes sir!
  Make me cum!
  Oh yeah..
  Take it boy!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:34:21 No.

  Oh, shit. I'm sorry.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:34:32 No.

  >>2995755
  oh no I was coxed into a snafu

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:35:05 No.

  >>2995764
  Sorry for what?
  Our daddies always taught us never to be ashamed of our dicks!
  Especially since they're such a good size and all..

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:35:38 No.

  This thread is reaching critical levels of autism desu.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:36:00 No.

  >>2995760
  Oh you misunderstand, the problem is it's very familiar. You tumblerfags think that no one
  notices your word choices like "toxic" and "caustic" and any of those other whiney faggot words
  which basically boil down to 'pls stop hurting muh fee fees".

  Now please fuck off you utter blithering retard.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:37:18 No.

  >>2995767
  Everyone's face in this thread right now:
  https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/56/72/1e/56721e57139a1ff0fbe00230d57793d7.jpg

>> [_] Advanced shitposting 01/10/16(Sun)10:38:30 No.

  GOOSH GOOSH

  >>2995688
  There was a flash attached to your file before. After seeing that I was going to post mfw with
  Turks laughing at Greeks and Armenians.swf. Hi modman. How's going?

  >>2995759
  TWO NAKED MEN

  >>2995767
  Top/Kek

  >>2995769
  Check your f*cking privilege shitlord.

  >>2995770
  This

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:38:39 No.

  >>2995769
  >I can't tell two posters apart from each other but I sure can spot a tumblrfag!
  It's magic.png
  gb2 reddit senpai

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:39:11 No.

  >>2995767
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:39:25 No.

  >>2995771
  GOOSH GOOSH GOOSH GOOSH

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:39:35 No.

  >>2995769
  lolno. It's just that I'd rather not be looking down on you when explaining. Even ground and all
  that.
  >Acting like a high-schooler (PROMOTION UNLOCKED! MASTER SERGEANT SHOOTER PERSON!) tends to get
  you less credit in conversations.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:40:12 No.

  >>2995773

  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
  desu desu desu desu desu desu

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:40:53 No.

  >>2995772
  Isn't Reddit better than that, though?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:40:55 No.

  >>2995776
  DESU NAKED MEN

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:41:43 No.

  I fucking hate tumblr and reddit.
  But I hate reddit more desu.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:41:58 No.

  >>2995775
  >y-you were being mean WAAHHH ;___________;
  >And another shitty greentext at the end of the text with an equally shitty attempt at humor
  Seriously, please for the love of god go back to whatever faggot land you come from.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:42:02 No.

  G... Goosh?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:42:20 No.

  >>2995779
  You said "to be honest" and it changed to desu didn't it?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:43:06 No.

  >>2995777
  No, reddit is worse.
  Nice trips btw.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:44:12 No.

  >>2995783
  funnily enough I typed desu directly instead of t.bh

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:44:56 No.

  >>2995781
  lol. That greentext bit was actually very closely related to the post. You're turning a blind eye
  at this point.

  Also, that bit at the beginning is exactly what a middle-schooler would do.
  >NOTHING'S HAPPENING WHEN I PRESS OTHER BUTTONS! *feverish panic noises* BUT THIS ONE DOES
  SOMETHING!!! GAH! KEEP PRESSING IT! NNYYYUUUUUUUHHHHHH!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:44:57 No.

  >>2995772
  You can tell people easily apart by specific word use faggot. Just like some retard who uses the
  word "oldfag" is probably a /b/-tard, so is the same with people who use words like "toxic" and
  such to describe human behavior instead of chemical waste.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:45:10 No.

  >>2995786
  One step ahead, I like that.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:46:20 No.

  >>2995787
  You really have no creativity or critical thought do you? Can't you come up with your own insults
  instead of constantly reusing mine?

  But yeah, again, seriously seriously please for everyone's sake, fuck off.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:46:54 No.

  It gets bigger when I pull on it :^)

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:47:31 No.

  >>2995781
  >>2995787
  Actually, I'll go ahead and explain the joke in that greentext for you since you might have
  genuinely not understood it.
  The joke was that you were supposedly promoted from a middle-schooler up to a high-schooler. BUT!
  In a sick twist of fate, you get demoted again in my next post.

  Tune in next week for the exciting conclusion to : 4chan Prisoners X-Infinium! Maximum Exposure
  Edition!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:47:41 No.

  >>2995786
  yeah I do that too sometimes desu senpai.

  >>2995792
  Sometimes I pull on it so hard, I rip the skin

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:47:45 No.

  >>2995792
  Goosh?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:47:55 No.

  OYSTERS CLAMS AND KEKHOLDS

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:47:56 No.

  postan in ebic bread

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:48:10 No.

  >>2995788
  >You can tell people easily apart by specific word use faggot.
  No fucking shit? Too bad you aren't even able to do that faggot.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:48:41 No.

  good game, better shitstorm. Made my day.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:48:42 No.

  >>2995793
  Yes, as I said I got the "joke", it just wasn't funny in any way shape or form, just like your
  precious tumblrtale.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:48:54 No.

  >>2995796
  GOOSH GOOSH

  GOOSH GOOSH

  >>2995798
  pls gb2 >>>/s4s/ desu lad

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:49:44 No.

  >>2995799
  Say's the faggot who replied to someone else completely.

  Faggot.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:49:45 No.

  >>2995791
  When the hour glass bleeds sand out the side, you'll eventually see the bottom.
  That is to say, you're running out of moves so you're starting to do the same thing over and over.
  >LEAVE 2X COMBO!!!
  >Y-YOU'RE MAD 2X COMBO!!!
  >MY LITTLE SISTER CAN'T BE THIS ADORABLE! 99999X COMBOOOOOOO!!!!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:50:28 No.

  >>2995802
  not dubs so i will refuse your command

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:51:30 No.

  SMASH YOUR FACE ON KEYBOARD
  POST RESULT
  gxc xfcg

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:51:38 No.

  >>2995805
  Are you twelve or something, or do you honestly think in a stream of liquid faeces akin to the
  shit you are spewing all over the board?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:52:01 No.

  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
  DESU DESU DESU DESU

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:52:04 No.

  I NEED THE SOURCE OF THAT CHARA WALKING SONG

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:52:11 No.

  Where da dubs where da dubs where da dubs at

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:52:14 No.

  >>2995804
  actually this goes for you too lol

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:52:54 No.

  >>2995801
  >No comment on how my "to be continued" joke wasn't funny.
  So, it was funny, right?
  >>2995808
  lol That sentence just fell apart. JUST LIKE SAND LOL!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:53:02 No.

  >>2995811
  right there just check your own number!

>> [_] Goosh 01/10/16(Sun)10:53:22 No.

  >>2995810
  Do you really need it?
  10 minutes later you'll hear another song you "need" but keep in mind there are kids starving out
  there.
  You don't need it. You don't need it at all.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:53:55 No.

  >>2995811
  Nice dubs, desu-ka.
  DUBS ARE WATSHI'S FAVORITE!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:54:06 No.

  >>2995816
  youre not my real dad!

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:54:24 No.

  >>2995814
  mmmMMMmmm :^)

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:55:50 No.

  >>2995813
  Does it feel good to drag us all down into your quagmire of retardation?

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:56:00 No.

  >>2995816
  but i do need it

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:56:02 No.

  can someone recommend me a good crossdressing hentai or manga
  preferably the ones that the boy is forced to crossdress or falls in love and crossdress to
  impress his love

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:56:30 No.

  Thank all of you, /f/ has been too quiet recently

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:56:31 No.

  >>2995806
  It's not a command. I was asking nicely. ;-;

  >>2995811
  Nice dubs, nice GET.

  >>2995814
  Nice check desu lad.

  >>2995808
  >Not even trying to pretend that's what you were doing

  >>2995817
  gb2/a/ pls

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:56:47 No.

  >>2995821
  lol, I didn't intend for what's around us to be happening but I love it nonetheless.

>> [_] Anonymous 01/10/16(Sun)10:56:58 No.

  Oh yeah and I forgot to mention that the goatse reference with one of the fatty's attacks was a
  nice touch.