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>> Anonymous 5jun2016(su)06:16 No.34012 OP P1
Trailer for some retarded shit they're charging 20 bucks for.
[IMG] 1464965277.clamdog_trailer3fa.swf (8.49 MiB)
720x406, Uncompressed. 1945 frames, 23.97 fps (01:21).
Ver6, AS1/AS2. Network access: No. Text: No.
Bitmaps: No. Audio: Yes. Video: Yes.
[find in archive]
>> Anonymous 5jun2016(su)08:48 No.34024 A P2R1
Anywhere to download? I'm not paying 20 dollars for this bullshit.
>> Anonymous 5jun2016(su)18:56 No.34048 B P3R2
>>34024
Does not exist yet.
>> Anonymous 5jun2016(su)19:36 No.34051 C P4R3
Color, contrast, and lighting are all shit, but the animation is actually shockingly good.
>> Anonymous 5jun2016(su)21:44 No.34063 D P5
EXTRA EXTRA
Internet has another greedy furfag scamming other furfags!
>> Anonymous 6jun2016(mo)04:51 No.34069 OP P6R4
>>34051
I'm going to disagree with you on that.
>> Anonymous 6jun2016(mo)10:42 No.34086 E P7R5
>>34063
Good thing we non furfags don't scam each other
>> Anonymous 6jun2016(mo)11:09 No.34087 B P8R6
>>34051
Really? Looks more like something made in SFM that was put on a dvd for whatever reason.
>> Anonymous 6jun2016(mo)12:50 No.34092 OP P9R7
>>34086
Right...
>> Anonymous 6jun2016(mo)14:34 No.34093 D P10
>>34086
Struck a nerve, eh?
>> Anonymous 6jun2016(mo)15:57 No.34096 F P11R8
You guys do realize that other furries think this is garbage too, right? You're not the only ones.
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)00:45 No.34101 OP P12R9
>>34096
Proof?
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)01:50 No.34103 G P13R10
>>34096
>source: my gaping gay furry asshole
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)06:12 No.34120 F P14R11
>>34101
https://u18chan.com/board/u18chan/a/topic/1444655
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)10:36 No.34128 H P15R12
Say OP, why did you upload the trailer anyway?
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)11:12 No.34129 B P16R13
>>34128
Advertisement. Why else.
>> Horsie 7jun2016(tu)11:45 No.34132 I P17R14
>>34129
NO! He is an social activist advocating for the rights of furries to not being scammed by products
of unknown quality sold in obsolete physical formats.
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)11:59 No.34133 OP P18R15
>>34132
Or i just thought it was stupid and wanted to laugh at it with other people.
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)17:01 No.34144 J P19R16
I can fap to furry porn usually.
Their faces in this are too ugly though in this for me to fap to. Way too furry for my dick and too
many multi-colored fur.
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)17:33 No.34146 H P20R17
>>34133
By that logic I'd have to collect comments from this board and make a best of stupid comments
featuring almost half of everything written on swfchan.
Especially the retarded self-trolls in some threads.
Their posts are the written equivalent of hitting yourself in the face with a brick while they are
thinking they threw the brick at somebody.
Then again this is the internet after all.
>> Anonymous 7jun2016(tu)17:39 No.34147 OP P21R18
>>34146
You're giving more of a shit about this then you should.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)00:42 No.34164 K P22R19
You know I hate fucking defending furfags. Actual furries, not just people that jack off to porn.
Anyway why are people suggesting this is priced to high.
Economics of value is extremely complicated. It's not supply and demand, in some cases it's price
due to low demand.
For example:
I know 10 people are going to buy X product.
Product cost 100$ to make.
Demand is low, but price per unit must equal product cost at the very least.
So at a minimum i'd charge 10$ per person. This would be ridiculous to do; because no one is going
to sell shit at cost. It doesn't work that way, a profit or incentive needs to exist, or the
quality will suffer, or the product be non existent.
This is when something is priced for demand. If you know of a niche to fill, you need to make a
profit on that niche market.
This is where things get real:
Furry's that buy shit, are the minority. Furry's that exist are also a minority. You are filling a
niche market that is a minority, of a minority.
The amount of people this specifically targets to is even more restrictive, from visual style, to
fetishes in the video.
So this video seems like it's pretty high quality. I know how much work these types of projects
take.
Let's assume 1,000 people buy that product.
That's 20,000$.
How much do you think this 45 minute film, that is fairly high quality, has 3 sets of subtitles for
various languages, has full voice acting(Not that it's good, but they tried and it's not horrible),
and a physical copy of the film on DVD?
You're losing 5$ per physical DVD at low scale costs when you factor in cost of disc, box, artwork
and other things included.
So they made 15,000$.
Oh did I said made? Oh yeah, people assume time is free. This isn't a project a single person could
do in a year, and if a single person could do this in a year, then they'd have made less then
minimum wage in the US for this project, a years worth of time.
Most likely it's a team of around 5, and they did it in around 3 months.
Still less then minimum wage for those 5 people.
So again, how is this overpriced? 1,000 copies is pretty generous, but then you gotta factor in
even if it's double or triple, you're just paying the people a livable wage at that point.
In the end this won't really turn a huge profit, not like people are claiming. In the end it's a
good thing because if they break even or exceed that goal they make more of this stuff. Might even
be better quality, might even have better voice acting. Which is a good thing.
Now for the real question: Why the fuck did I bother typing this out when people will argue it
should be worth nothing, or a dollar regardless of facts.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)00:47 No.34165 G P23R20
>>34164
You seem so passionate about this topic.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)01:01 No.34167 K P24R21
>>34165
I'm passionate about people not understanding certain concepts.
When people say something is overpriced you need to demonstrate that.
If the answer to what it should be worth ensures the product wouldn't exist, or exist in an
altered/worse state, then that means the argument is false.
If you know you can sell 100,000 copies then sure maybe 10$ would be the best price for something
like this.
I'm honestly surprised they are selling it for 20$, but they probably picked this price for a few
factors.
* What people are at the max people are willing to pay for it. That might be 30$, but 35$ might
ensure you sell 0 copies.
* Price depending on number of sales or units sold. At 30$ some people might be willing to buy it,
but if at 20$ 5,000 people buy it, but at 30$ only 1,000 people buy it, obviously 20$ is the price
you go for.
* This also leads into underpricing. 15$ maybe 6,000 would buy it. But then they would have made
60,000 as opposed to 75,000.
* Pricing on similar products.
I mean economics is weird, and there is a thousand factors. Honestly someone probably just did a
quick bit of math, said similar DVD's sell for 20$, and they chose 20$. That makes sense, and is
pretty much what you should do.
In the end market decides. If you overestimated, you will end up selling at a loss and never doing
a similar project again or for the next project dial back the quality.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)01:08 No.34169 G P25R22
>>34167
I see.
There is something to you overlook, and that is the fact that this kind of merchandise can generate
more utility in an efficient way by distributing in on a digital platform.
Also remember that furries are bashed because they take decisions that are lunatic such as paying >$
100 (even 500) a mediocre drawfag for a mediocre piece of "art". That's why many people use that as
a precedent of comparasion when they see this 3d stuff.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)01:14 No.34170 K P26R23
>>34169
Yeah there is bad people in all corners.
Some people don't understand economics, or they play a dangerous game where they assume since no
one else does X, they can charge whatever for X. Then backlash and others come in who do it better
for cheaper.
Those people are fucked though because a few shitty people actually do bolster their ego by paying
it, and in the end they never change and assume they aren't selling more because it's being leaked
online.
They also don't understand reasonable expectation of loss. Pirating will happen, you gotta learn to
live with it. Doesn't make it right, but it gets to a point fighting it costs more then just
leaving it go.
I guess I posted originally because in this specific case these people seemed to actually price the
product accordingly and for what you're getting it's a good value I suppose.
People just assume every 45 minute video is identical without realizing how many people buy X type
of video, vs how many X type of video of Y quality exists.
I got a little miffed due to that, because for once the furries are doing it fucking right on
pricing.
Though in defense of some people: Commissions are not the same as buying an image.
Which is why it bothers me when people complain an artist is selling a SINGLE PICTURE for 100$. No,
most times they are selling them for a dollar or less, or part of a pack. You just wanted to be a
special snowflake and have that artist draw bugs bunny BUT he had 1 ear lost during the war also
smoking a cigar in X pose because you're a sad little man. You gotta pay for custom content. No big
surprise.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)01:15 No.34171 K P27
>>34170
Last part wasn't referring to you, just in general for people who buy commissions and complain
about pricing without realizing it could of taken hours to make a custom little fetish drawing so
the buyer can wank himself to death.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)01:16 No.34172 L P28R24
the animation is like watching that piece of shit food fight movie
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)01:20 No.34173 G P29R25
>>34170
Because the fetishes of the furries are so "specific" (inflation, waterplay, diapers, tiles,
mexican sugar dancing, etc) that is the reason why many drawfags do not even take commission from
them ergo the few who take those commisions do charge in such ridiculous prices.
Whatsoever talking about merchandising products, there is none to blame when its fail but the one
who did not study his/her target consumers.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)03:44 No.34176 F P30R26
>>34173
Most furries are rather vanilla, actually. And so, most drawfags DO take commissions from them.
It's very common for artists to take commissions from furries despite them not being a furry
themselves.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)05:16 No.34178 OP P31R27
>>34164
My probably isn't mainly the price,it's that i'm saying the quality does not look equal to the
price you're paying,10 dollars,sure,but not 20.
>> Anonymous 8jun2016(we)05:43 No.34183 G P32R28
>>34176
Then thy are not truly furry but mere entry level fags.
>> Anonymous 17jun2016(fr)19:45 No.34529 B P33R29
Well, It exists now.
>> Anonymous 18jun2016(sa)12:08 No.34564 M P34R30
It looks like shitty low quality game cg. But it's furshit so you'll have autists who'd spend there
whole month's pay of welfare on it.
>> Anonymous 18jun2016(sa)22:28 No.34573 G P35R31
>>34564
Furries are on welfare?
America is a joke of really bad taste.
>> Anonymous 19jun2016(su)15:08 No.34605 B P36R32
https://mega.nz/#!Z9gmAZbQ!-ES9xWw8AXTROosOJn-xDc3KNGqP6bsCsbPWEZY6WOE
>> Anonymous 19jun2016(su)18:45 No.34610 N P37R33
>>34605
Legit download, .mp4 in a .z7. Thanks for the upload, kind anon.
This is about as bad as I was expecting, though. Flawed model work, bad/no sfx, awkward animation,
awful mixing (the voice acting gets drowned out by the music), awful pacing. I think the only way
to enjoy this would be to actually buy it, so you feel obligated to get your money's worth- but why
would you when there's better stuff for free?
>> Anonymous 19jun2016(su)20:15 No.34615 OP P38R34
>>34605
Anon pulls through,thanks man.
>> Anonymous 20jun2016(mo)10:56 No.34646 O P39R35
>>34605
Damn, that link died quick
>> Anonymous 20jun2016(mo)11:06 No.34648 P P40R36
>>34605
Link ded, any other anon got a new one?
>> Anonymous 22jun2016(we)01:09 No.34683 Q P41R37
Can I find a link to the full thing anywhere?
>> Anonymous 22jun2016(we)02:46 No.34686 OP P42R38
>>34683
Hold your cock,i'm sure somebody who downloaded it from here will reupload.
>> Anonymous 23jun2016(th)22:39 No.34755 R P43R39
>>34683
?xt=urn:btih:2da1fb927d532350e04a10452d9d101e9d7189dc&dn=HowThisAllHappened.mp4 torrent magnet
>> Anonymous 23jun2016(th)23:01 No.34758 R P44
Watched the full thing. It seems like they just lost ambition to actually make a strong and
desirable product halfway through, and put a price tag on what they did work on, just to get
something out of it.
5/10. You might like it, but it won't get you off but maybe once or twice.
>> Anonymous 24jun2016(fr)20:20 No.34780 Q P45R40
>>34755
Much appreciated
>> Anonymous 25jun2016(sa)01:56 No.34785 P P46R41
>>34755
Am complete idiot, how do you use this?
>> Anonymous 25jun2016(sa)02:41 No.34786 S P47R42
>>34785
If you're using qbtorrent, click "add torrent link" (Icon looks like a chain) and just paste it in.
This is a magnet link, on other sites you could just click it and it would automatically add the
torrent. I'm sure there's addons for it too
>> Anonymous 25jun2016(sa)19:53 No.34803 P P48R43
>>34786
Thank you, anon! Worked like a charm.
>> Anonymous 25jun2016(sa)23:45 No.34804 T P49R44
>>34786
i reckon it's because it's not written with the protocol
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2da1fb927d532350e04a10452d9d101e9d7189dc&dn=HowThisAllHappened.mp4
it's like writing a URL without http:
some forums won't detect it
>> Anonymous 26jun2016(su)00:37 No.34806 U P50R45
not worth large dl
