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[_] Come vote for new rules Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)11:13:01 No.3150254
Should the filesize be higher(if there are more votes for the 3 higher file size options than the
one to keep 10mb, the one with more votes win)?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11251174
Should the cooldown for each flash be higher(if there are more votes to 48 and 72 together than
for 24, the one between 48 and 72 with more votes will be chosen)?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11251208
Should the [M] tag be added?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11251225
Should tripcodes be allowed on /f/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11251233
Should there be a 5 files archive to prevent 404s?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11251239
Should the flash limit be higher?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11251266
I hope I remembered all the main ideas, if I forgot something feel free to post the strawpoll.
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)11:27:52 No.3150257
>>3150254
>Bigger filesize
Can you post a link to a flash that is larger than 10MB? I don't go to jewgrounds or any portal
with flash games but is there a flash worth posting on /f/ larger than 10MB?
>Should the cooldown for each flash be higher
it used to be actually 96 hours before reposting but people still found a way how to post certain
flashes every day and if it's gonna change it sure is gonna be exploited
>Should tripcodes be allowed on /f/?
believe it or not there are certain tripfags that aren't complete faggots even on /f/
also is there a board where tripfagging is unabled?
>Should there be a 5 files archive to prevent 404s?
I don't see a reason why, everything is on swfchan/4plebs
>Should the flash limit be higher?
30 shit flashes at any given time is not enough for you?
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)11:51:27 No.3150261
>>3150254
>filesize
Considering that majority of flashes are already youtube rips there is no point in increasing
file size. I don't wannt to have 10-20 minute long videos on /f/.
>cooldown
Back to 48h to prevent daily reposts.
>tripcodes
Doesn't matter on /f/. Leave them.
>5 files archive
swfchan and 4plebs.org
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)12:07:02 No.3150263
>>3150257
>I don't see a reason why, everything is on swfchan/4plebs
Just so we don't have to go to 4plebs to every flash that gets 404d while we are watching the
flashes on the first page.
>believe it or not there are certain tripfags that aren't complete faggots even on /f/
also is there a board where tripfagging is unabled?
If I remember well there were board where it was unabled. Also, even the ones who aren't complete
faggots are still unnecessary.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)12:10:30 No.3150265
>>3150257
>30 shit flashes at any given time is not enough for you?
They are. I voted to keep 30 in fact. The options there are not mine, but what the people asked.
Another example is that I voted to keep the maximum filesize to 10mb.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)12:32:50 No.3150272
>24hr votes at 56%
After that zeitgeist spammer, the "my dog died" guy, and any of the other people that had shit up
the board with their personal forced daily posts, I'm honestly surprised
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)12:51:12 No.3150276
>>3150272
Same.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)13:28:23 No.3150285
>>3150254
>Should the filesize be higher(if there are more votes for the 3 higher file size options than
the one to keep 10mb, the one with more votes win)?
All of the cool things I've seen that I enjoyed on /f/ have either been well under 10mb, or could
be cut down to lower with better compression. I remember what happened on /wsg/ when the limit
was raised. Instead of more OC, we just got "TV show general #425185471762". I really don't think
the limit needs to be raised.
If someone can show me a flash that 1) would fit thematically on /f/, 2) can't be posted because
of filesize limitations, and 3) can't be made smaller without losing the meaning, I'd probably
reconsider, however.
>Should the cooldown for each flash be higher(if there are more votes to 48 and 72 together than
for 24, the one between 48 and 72 with more votes will be chosen)?
If someone is dedicated enough to post the same shitty flash every 24 hours, I think they deserve
to have their shitty flash show up on the front page.
>Should the [M] tag be added?
If a flash would be [M] and not [L], [J], etc., I'm not sure I'm really interested in it. When I
come to /f/, I'm very distinctly not looking for people to make music recommendations to me.
Music is already part of /f/, and I don't think anyone really has a problem with that. With the
current tags, though, there's a reminder that what you're posting has to be more than just music.
>Should tripcodes be allowed on /f/?
I think the current system is working fine.
>Should there be a 5 files archive to prevent 404s?
Posts in red already serve this purpose for me: there's an indication that I might need to go to
swfchan if I want to retrieve the file. If that doesn't help you, an archive won't either.
>Should the flash limit be higher?
Sometimes I think "huh, I wish there were more good stuff on /f/", but that's because /f/ is shit
at the moment, not because there's no room.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)13:35:33 No.3150288
>>3150285
>Posts in red already serve this purpose for me: there's an indication that I might need to go to
swfchan if I want to retrieve the file. If that doesn't help you, an archive won't either.
What do you mean with that?
It's all about having a more comfortable view of the front page, not needing to go elsewhere if
the flash you wanted to see got 404'd.
When you click in a "deleted" file that is still in the archive it opens as usual.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)13:40:23 No.3150291
LOWER the filesize limit to 8MB pls. The only flashes that take up the full 10 are shitty youtube
rips.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)13:46:56 No.3150293
>tfw you have the opposite opinion of every one of the points besides the last one
Such is life
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)13:51:06 No.3150295
The first strawpoll is kinda unfair since it breaks up the question "Do you want larger
filesizes?" into three answers. Because of this, even though only 45% (as of my time of posting)
actually want the same 10mb limit, its the majority because the people who dont are broken up
into 3 smaller groups.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:08:01 No.3150302
>>3150295
Read >>3150254 .
"(if there are more votes for the 3 higher file size options than the one to keep 10mb, the one
with more votes win)"
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:10:42 No.3150303
>No. 10MB is fine. 37% of the votes (highest)
What kind of backward-thinking people actually believe 20 MiB is worse than 10 MiB?
10 MiB:
+ Embedded videos are posted in bad quality.
+ Can't post thousands of non-video flashes that are over 10 MiB (hentai and non-hentai).
+ Limits creativity to a measly 10 MiB, new artists will not start making flashes since they
don't get to express themselves.
20 MiB:
+ The exact same amount of embedded videos are posted, just in a lot better quality.
+ Can post thousands of flashes that are larger than 10 MiB.
+ Can produce original content with a lot better quality, actually giving flash a chance to stay
relevant.
There's no downside what-so-ever to increasing the file size limit. It won't automatically make
all flashes uploaded 20 MiB either, there will still be a bunch of swfs posted, new and old, way
below 10 MiB.
What the fuck. To limit upload to 10 MiB is completely insane in this day and age.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:15:37 No.3150304
>>3150303
All the shittily encoded video rips will take twice as long to load, since they go from being
9.98MB to 19.98MB
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:18:39 No.3150306
>>3150304
Nobody's forcing you to watch shittily-encoded video rips.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:21:38 No.3150307
>>3150304
So instead of taking 10 seconds they'll take 20 seconds.
oh noeeeee.
Pretty sure you can occasionally put up with that.
Also all the good video rips will get even better & longer which in my estimation is awesome.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:24:55 No.3150309
>>3150304
>if it can get worse, then it will definitely get worse
Now that's a pessimistic way to view stuff
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:25:19 No.3150310
>Should the maximum file size in /f/ be higher?
20 MiB. It's a given, I've been wanting to upload flashes 12-18 MiB for several years now. People
thinking less is more are not thinking straight. It won't turn /f/ into a video board, what on
Earth makes you think an increased file size would increase the number of people that bother to
embed videos into flash? The guys that would actually bother are already doing it.
>What should the cooldown for flashes be?
Keep 24 hrs. Not being able to upload friday_at_last.swf or a different flash because someone
uploaded it yesterday feels bad man.
>Should the [M] Music tag be added?
No. We have [L], make a proper flash loop if you want to share a good song. Still image flashes
with just music playing have always annoyed me.
>Should tripcodes be allowed on /f/?
Yes. If we lose just one guy that produce original content because he can't identify himself with
a tripcode we are missing out on content for a very stupid reason.
>Should there be a 5 files archive to prevent 404s?
Yes. I think? Not sure I understand the question but I assume it'll make threads stay up a bit
after they have ended? It means swfchan gets much higher chance to archive last minute posts and
that's a good thing.
>Should the flash limit be higher?
35. Can't think of a reason why a few extra threads would be a bad thing.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:27:02 No.3150312
If people want to post shitty youtube rips, they will post shitty shitty youtube rips. There is
no way around that.
But with 20 MB we will get better looking shitty youtube rips, which is fine in my book.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:31:35 No.3150313
>>3150304
If you hate shitty video encodes that much you should welcome 20 MiB even more since you'll be
able to clearly see which flashes are videos and then not click them...
I don't get it. This is like eating poorly for years in a home and then when some guy comes along
and says "do you want to be able to cook twice as much food from now on if you want to?" you say
"no this is fine because someone else might make a big meal i don't like". Even though you don't
have to eat that meal at all.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:36:11 No.3150315
If any change happens I just hope they make it clear in the rules that loli/guro/furry flashes is
fine to be posted.
Copy-paste of the only three rules /f/ should have (on top of the Global rules of course):
1. Don't upload anything that violates copyright.
2. Don't upload redirectors or exploits (such as popup spawners).
3. All other flash content is allowed, including loli/shota, furry and guro.
Alternative rule 3:
All other flash content is allowed.
...because someone thought specifying loli/guro/furry would flood that content here but that just
won't happen, I can almost guarantee that. Flash doesn't have that much strength these days.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)14:51:23 No.3150326
>>3150303
Please don't affirm speculation as fact.
Also,
>CURRENT_YEAR argument
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)15:26:13 No.3150338
>>3150326
please don't think you are smart. nice meme though. annoying piece of shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)15:38:07 No.3150343
>>3150338
>better youtube rips
lmao what a retard
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)15:47:01 No.3150345
>>3150343
say exactly what you mean instead of throwing vague statements that are supposed to cause some
kind of "general discredit" to the posts you're replying to. smirking and acting like some kind
of prime mover that speak in riddles is a sure way to get nowhere in a discussion.
all your posts accomplish is making you look like a fool and generate hate right back at you.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:02:06 No.3150378
>>3150345
Not that guy
10 MiB:
+ The size limit discourages posting larger embedded videos.
+ Less is usually more (>>3150285, first sentence), by that I mean creativity is actually
encouraged when limited in some way, since it is a challenge.
* 10MiB is (out of experience) sufficient to produce new quality flashes. "they don't get to
express themselves" is, to my point of view, a very marginal (and exaggerated) observation.
* People actually giving a shit about video quality in a flash seem rather non-existent.
20MiB:
- More Embedded videos are posted, since people can do it : the old bad-quality ones may be
upgraded, but new, longer bad-quality ones will fill the gap. This has been proven in a similar
setting, as >>3150285 says about /wsg/.
+ Can actually post "thousands" of flashes that are larger than 10 MiB (But actually also
possible with a lower limit, such as 15 for example.), that is fair.
* Visual quality, as I stated before, is not really important to anyone (to my knowledge, please
prove me wrong with more people than you if that's not the case).
* Implying /f/ is big enough to actually "give flash a chance to stay relevant." Also implying it
being irrelevant (which will probably not happen in some time) is a problem as long as we have
the software to run it.
There -are- downsides to increasing the file size limit. All the more so when considering the
limited space on /f/, which can quickly get swamped by embedded videos, rips, and other things
that Flash doesn't need to be used for at all.
>>3150254
You should know strawpoll is vulnerable to dynamic IP's.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:19:37 No.3150387
>>3150378
I still don't get the way of thinking. On one hand you allow more flashes to be posted, on the
other you allow less. And then you argue that "less is more" and that it will somehow help a
dying format to restrict the file size, in an age where people are downloading YouTube videos of
several hundreds of MiB with no sweat.
More embedded videos will not be posted. I stand by that fact, encoding videos to FLV and
embedding them into swf for a very small audience (people on /f/) is something not many are
willing to do.
Those that are willing are already doing it, increasing the file size by a measly 10 MiB will not
increase the number of people willing to spend all that time on turning videos into flashes. "I
wanted to convert this video into flash but that darn 10 MiB file size was holding me back. But
now that I can finally increase the quality a little I will do it!" Sounds like something nobody
would say.
As for visual quality not being important is up to each person but i don't think anybody would
say that it's ever worse to have something in higher quality. When was the last time you wished
you could not see clearly what is going on?
>You should know strawpoll is vulnerable to dynamic IP's.
new 4chan owner has said he doesn't trust polls anyway so none of this really matters...
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:32:45 No.3150394
>>3150378
>+ The size limit discourages posting larger embedded videos.
And how is that a good thing?
Flash video has been a significant part of /f/ since forever.
You need to get that through your thick skulls and quit looking it as something bad when it has
long since helped sustain the board.
Longer videos from quality rippers of stuff /f/ anons like would certainly be welcome and awesome.
And /f/ as a board is nothing like /wsg/ and has a fairly stable base of users which rarely grows
let alone grows fast so comparing the two is dumb.
Raising the limit isn't going to increase the amount of video content but only make it
longer/better quality neither of which are bad things.
There are 0 downsides to increasing the limit other then strange paranoia that its going to cause
a flood of newfags or current video posters to go wild neither of which makes a lick of sense.
Also video quality definitely matters to people here whether they are watching some anime video
or anything else.
I definitely appreciate users who put in significant time and effort to encode their video as
best possible and I assume plenty others do too.
Not everyone who posts video here just lazily converts it. They put in time, they care, they want
their flashes to be enjoyed and re-posted.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:34:32 No.3150395
>>3150387
I have posted embedded video in the past and 10mb would make a very big difference
>see http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=154332
>4 minute video
>416x240
>shitty bitrate
>barely makes it under 10mb
You seem to be speaking hypothetically like you haven't actually posted that kind of content
before.
But I guess we could leave it at 10mb since people never shitpost on /f/
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:43:51 No.3150397
>>3150395
yes it makes a difference in quality
but not a difference in number of videos uploaded
im saying that people will upload the videos they want to upload anyway, regardless of quality.
increasing the file size limit will not bring in more people willing to go through the hassle of
downloading a video from youtube, converting the video into a 20 MiB FLV, embedding the FLV into
SWF and then upload it to /f/ for a whopping 40 people to see it and maybe 5 people to comment on
it. that's the point im making here, we'll get the exact same amount of videos, just in better
quality.
it's the hassle of getting a video into flash that will keep protecting us from video floods,
like it always has.
this will be my last post in this thread. im stressed out over "Marked for deletion (old).", i
really, really hate getting cut off in the middle of a discussion due to the thread 404ing
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:44:27 No.3150399
>>3150272
Daily Dose
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:49:18 No.3150401
>>3150395
Did you use the h264 codec?
Because if you used h263 as most downloadable converters do the quality is generally gonna be ass.
Considering the lack of a pre-loader I am assuming you used h263.
That video you uploaded. I am pretty sure you could upload it at basically full quality if you
used a better codec and 640 x 360 size too atleast.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:50:22 No.3150402
>>3150394
>They put in time, they care, they want their flashes to be enjoyed and re-posted.
this (the whole post). ive spent 6 hours (including encode time) on cutting down a single video
and making sure it was as good as it can possibly be in only 10 MiB. we won't flood the board.
hell, put 20 MiB on a trial period of 2 months. if we get video spam (measured and compared
honestly) we can go back to 10 MiB. i don't think it will a problem what-so-ever.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:54:12 No.3150404
>>3150401
i think you mean vp6, not h263. flash can actually only embed vp6 videos, it's just recently
we've learned to hack flash into using h264 (the video isn't really embedded, just the video data
and then we feed the data to the flash player as if it was streamed from a remote server). as far
as i know nobody has done that trick on h263.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/18/16(Sun)17:57:35 No.3150405
what you faggots whining about bigger size limit fail to realize is that it doesn't necessarily
mean higher quality youtuberips but also longer shit quality youtuberips
can you imagine someone posting full episode of some shitty show?
/f/ may turn into weebshitfest that it already almost is
