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>> [_] Anon 3013526 >that one bitch god damn
>> [_] Anon 3013528 dumb cunts
>> [_] Anon 3013536 Wait wait, what am I missing here? Cutting taxes that strongly with a potential energy crisis at hand is a good thing? It's an honest question.
>> [_] Anon 3013539 my nigga zoltan already has my vote and I haven't followed things at all, but is that no tax for 25k yearly an actual policy? I make like 3 times that but I'm all for something like that to be honest, their taxes paid isn't even a fifth of mine so it's no real loss and maybe SOMEONE will make good use of the income but all I know about is making mad money on my end so who knows maybe something like that on a large scale would hurt us overall.
>> [_] Anon 3013559 Did anyone else notice spiderman in the background?
>> [_] Anon 3013564 >if i had these people in a room for 15 mins folks I could bring them around.
>> [_] Anon 3013565 i understand the whole "female president" thing. it'd be nice, yeah and i'm all for it. but not hillary. she's as much of a clown to me as trump. she presents herself in a way that makes it seem like she's so full of herself. she debates like she has already won.
>> [_] Anon 3013566 >># The one that they literally point the fuck out? That one?
>> [_] Anon 3013567 >># The point is not to say that the tax plan is good or bad, just that people will blindly support policies that they think their favorite candidate would promote.
>> [_] Anon 3013568 >># jimmy kimmel owned by ABC. who cares what this shill says
>> [_] Anon 3013570 lol did you see that fat spiderman in the backround LMAO
>> [_] Anon 3013571 This isn't the same attention whore that talked shit about gamers in order to take youtube views?
>> [_] Anon 3013575 Wow shocking news, "People" vote based on emotional basis rather than rational judges. Democracy is a charade.
>> [_] Anon 3013578 >># b-but hilarys vagina! its current year!
>> [_] Anon 3013591 >># >Men admit their mistake and own up to their words >Women ignore facts and act like they're still in the right, even when proven wrong Sounds about right.
>> [_] Anon 3013634 >># yup, same guy. never liked him.
>> [_] Anon 3013639 >># It is easy to devise imaginary forms of government in which the scepter shall be constantly bestowed on the most worthy, by the free and incorruptible suffrage of the whole community. Experience dispels these airy notions.
>> [_] Anon 3013642 >># can frame this?
>> [_] Anon 3013643 wheres vermin supreme when you need him?
>> [_] Anon 3013659 Democracy ayy lamo
>> [_] Anon 3013675 "Democracy doesn't work." -moot, 2015
>> [_] Anon 3013681 >># >Caring about american politics It's like choosing a red ford pinto or a blue ford pinto, either way in the future all you are getting is a horrible slow death, but hey, at least you got to pick your favorite color.

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>> [_] Anon 2916785 kill me might have to actually fucking vote for trump
>> [_] Anon 2916786 Honestly it's hard to know every candidates tax plan.
>> [_] Anon 2916787 May be true, but it's not just one man/woman leading the country.
>> [_] Anon 2916792 >># Yeah, but if you're even slightly politically aware, you can discern that Trump's tax plan is the polar opposite of Clinton's tax plan. Seriously what the fuck do you people even look at in a candidate before you cast your vote?
>> [_] Anon 2916795 My response would have been: "I don't appreciate your ruse, your elaborate attempt to trick me".
>> [_] Anon 2916799 >># People pick a party and don't care about the candidates. They just care if their "side" wins or not.
>> [_] Anon 2916809 According to the swf, this is now a Spiderman thread. A very fat Spiderman.
>> [_] Anon 2916814 This shit is precisely why America is fucked. We are a nation of retards, run by retards. What the mother fuck happened to us?
>> [_] Anon 2916828 >># Reagan happened
>> [_] Anon 2916829 >># the jews
>> [_] Anon 2916835 You guys think thats bad? When I was in high school, we had a project where we did basically this, except we were asking people to sign our petition. The trick was, our petition was just the exact working of the fourth amendment to the US constitution (you know, the one that says law enforcement needs a warrant from a judge to search or seize your belongings). We literally could not find anyone who believed in the fourth amendment. Not one person.
>> [_] Anon 2916843 >># Wait.. am I reading that right? Are you saying everyone around you thought law enforcement should be allowed to search your house or take your shit without any government backing? Just steal your shit because it looked suspicious?
>> [_] Anonymoos 2916844 >># Hahahahahaaha. SHIT!
>> [_] Anon 2916856 >># No one was like 'Law enforcement should be able to steal whatever they want', but it was a common complaint, that law enforcement would be unduly constrained if they had to get permission from a judge every time they needed to investigate someone. Im kind of a law nerd now. So, just for clarification the fourth amendment doesnt actually say cops always need a warrant to search or seize. The exact wording says they cant search or seize unreasonably, and that warrants have to be specific. The legal point here, is that not every search and seizure requires a warrant. Anyway, its pretty fucked up that no one actually cares for the fourth amendment right? Its like, police brutality problems and NSA problems are always phrased as a people vs government issue. Thats not the case at all. The reality is that the only people who care about privacy are the government and minority interest groups like the EFF and the ACLU. Kind of makes me sympathize with law enforcement a bit, because they do more to protect privacy rights than anyone else actually wants them to do, AND, they get tons of shit from the political discussion about how much privacy they violate. Its like they are damned if they do, and damned if they dont.
>> [_] Anon 2916858 >># Huh. Well, I browse /pol/ every once in a while, so I'm obligated to ask your thoughts on the 2nd amendment. I recall hearing something about a judge's reinterpretation of the 2nd that pisses them off.
>> [_] Anon 2916863 >># Well I dont know what Judge or opinion your talking about. But I mean, I like that the US protects gun rights. Yeah I dont know what you are asking. That US citizens cant remain a violent threat to the US government is a uniquely american trait, so therefore as an American I love it, regardless as to whether it makes for good policy.
>> [_] Anon 2916866 >># It's the same everywhere m8 soundbytes, single-issue voting and irrelevant politics (tiem 4 woman in the white house :DDDD), carry the day. Or maybe you're right and it's just you fags, I saw Canada's Munk Debate, good stuff tbh.
>> [_] Anon 2916868 yeaa i rike hirry krittin
>> [_] Anon 2916870 >># Americans arent dumber, they are just a combinations of affluent and confident. They are affluent enough that they can afford to be dumb, and confident enough to just say whatever dumb shit they can think of. Its not a good thing, but, I do think its pretty bitchin that America can literally afford to be dumb. We can just sit around being morons and say dumb shit and it doesnt matter at all. Yuropoors cant afford to be dumb like Americans. They all live in these shitty bureaucratic nanny states with inferior GDPs. Life is harder, and if they are outspoken and dumb bad things happen to them.
>> [_] Anon 2916873 votin' bernie
>> [_] Anon 2916885 I know that when trying to find people on the street to interview, you will have a hard time finding people that aren't >># The point is, the people that want to be interviewed are the people that are going to say dumb things on camera.
>> [_] Anon 2916888 >># I'm actually just starting to get interested in the laws of our nation and such. Do you know anywhere I could get reliable information about our current laws?
>> [_] Anon 2916889 >># Well, it depends on if you mean Statute or laws. The whole US Federal Code is online. Meaning if you just want to read statutes, they are out there. So when you see it in the news that Obamacare or the USA freedom act passed, you can go read it. Thats not law though, I dont think normal people realize that. Law is what gets produced in court rooms, by judges. So if you want to study law I say go read court rulings. Its hard to know where to point you, because so much of it is interesting. Try Korematsu vs the US, the famous case where the SCOTUS upheld the internment of japanese citizens. US vs Jones is a pretty accessable recent SCOTUS ruling. Ive also read a lot of academic papers. My favorite scholars are Orin Kerr, Eugene Volokh, Randy Barnett, and Eric Posner. Literally anything they have written is good. Richard Posner is widely considered to be the best living judge. Judge Learned Hand is a famous judge. Justice Holmes is considered to have been our best supreme court justice, and he wrote famous opinions supporting forced sterilization, and the suppression of the community party. Brandeis is one of my favorites. Justice Jackson is considered to be one of the best as well. Read any opinion by any of them and you are bound to learn something valuable.
>> [_] Anon 2916890 >># I wasn't expecting such a good response. Thank you very much kind anon. I'll check them out.
>> [_] Anon 2916891 >># >implying european politics aren't completely retarded As a Britbong, I can confirm. Anyway about this yuropoors meme... America is around 46 times the size of Britain. That makes us around the size of your average state. Your richest state, by GDP, is California $2.2 trillion (USD). It is over twice the size of Britain. Whereas our tiny island has a GDP of $2.9 trillion. Also our currency is worth more. But perhaps we should compare the entire EU. In terms of size is it less than half the size of America (4.3m sqkm vs 9.8m sqkm), but has a total GDP of $18.5 trillion against America's $17.4 trillion. So smaller Europe is actually richer than the USA even with broke counties like Greece, and that's just the EU members.
>> [_] Anon 2916896 >># >a total GDP of $18.5 trillion against America's $17.4 trillion. Well okay, but you guys also have ~66% more people than the US. So the GDP per capita is still a lot smaller. Thats a more meaningful metric. As economic producers, each European person is producing only like 70% of the value an American produces. Anyway, you motivated me to check out wikipedias list of states, and its pretty diverse, just like European states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U. S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
>> [_] dankest chiptune 2916898 >># people always vote against the candidate they dislike, not for the candidate they like go watch some CGPgrey videos
>> [_] Anon 2916906 >># We have shit-tier countries like Greece, Romania, the Baltic states, Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Bulgaria, Italy, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Cyprus, Malta, Poland and the Czech Republic bringing down our average. We don't even have Norway or Switzerland. Many of those are poorer than your poorest states. On top of that America has much more natural resources, particularly oil, than the whole of Europe. And to fuck over Russia's economy you flooded the oil market with the Saudis so we are now losing money on it. Oh and most of your country is owned by the top 10%. So while the few get very rich have fun going bankrupt over a broken leg.
>> [_] Anon 2916915 Americafag reporting - I'm proud of Anon (and namefag :p ) tonight, youse guize are actually carrying on a rather intelligent discussion - something I've not seen in many moons around here. Can't really add much here, it's all been said above. Yeah, the stupidity involved in the voting process is not inherently American, European, or any "an". It's part of human nature to become sassy when fat. It's the fate of every civilization to collapse under its own weight once it reaches a certain plateau - that weight was once carried by care in thinking, and striving for something better - when that's been reached, the "Atlas" of people relaxes, and stops putting forth the care it takes to remain vital. Then you get Rule for The Ignorant, by The Ignorant. Founding principles cease to matter, and eventually the society is eroded away by non-fundamental forces like Mars' atmosphere under the solar wind.
>> [_] Anon 2916933 >IM STILL NOT VOTING FOR TRUMP!!!!! Wow, you really are a strong, independent womyn who dont need no cisgendered white males. What a cunt, glad her face is so busted. Also, reminder that your vote means nothing. I'd let dogs vote for all I care, it's not like it matters. The electoral college can say "no fuck the popular vote" and vote for the other guy.
>> [_] Anon 2916942 >># Honestly? Our culture. Women listen to shit like The View, Oprah, people think The Daily Show is unbiased and factual, people are more interested in trends than anything. Look at the way half of the people in the flash dressed, everyone cares more about what is cool than anything, even in regards to voting issues.
>> [_] Anon 2916944 >># >Trump's tax plan is the polar opposite of Clinton's tax plan. But it sounds like the polar opposite of any conservative tax plan, so is it really hard to believe that liberals would mistake it for a liberal tax plan?