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[_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)17:55:15 No.3222224
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)19:01:10 No.3222253
>>3222224
Bump for OP.
It's a simple concept, but it seems to escape most people.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)19:28:53 No.3222261
>>3222224
>>3222253
I like his message, and the presentation is done well, but videos converted to swf shouldn't be
on /f/.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)19:38:17 No.3222266
But the gumball isn't poison, it just tastes like shit. SInce when did the terrorists "poison"
America? They've always been around and America has always been too strong for them. Personally I
can handle a shitty tasting gumball every once in awhile, it doesn't ruin my taste for gumballs.
What's the point of living in a world with gumballs if you can't enjoy them? Besides,
statistically there's a much greater chance of me getting maimed in a car accident than
culturally enriched by an immigrant.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve
neither Liberty nor Safety" ~ Obie Wan Konami in Star Trek
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)19:53:51 No.3222274
>>3222266
Did you even watch the video?
It has nothing to do with terrorism.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)19:58:06 No.3222275
I've seen this video before and it really rests on the flawed premise he sets up that 'people are
pro-immigration to reduce world poverty'. If that was why the US had relatively open immigration
policies then this video would have a point.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)19:59:12 No.3222276
>>3222274
I'm pretty sure his whole post was just a convoluted shitpost, judging by the end of it.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:05:06 No.3222277
>>3222275
>If that was why the US had relatively open immigration policies then this video would have a
point.
There are a number of reasons why people support mass immigration.
If you ask a liberal why they support it, it's because "they're just trying to make a better life
for themselves", which the video proves isn't a solution.
Their next line is, "They do the jobs that American's won't do (FOR THAT PAY GRADE), which means
that their support for mass immigration is no longer humanitarian, but that they are 100% in
favor of exploiting foreigners for cheaper products, which makes them complete assholes.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:05:44 No.3222278
>>3222274
>>3222276
Then what the fuck is he arguing? This argument is always used for real life shit like the Muslim
ban, nobody is talking about world hunger these days even though they SHOULD (fuckin Somalia)
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:10:19 No.3222279
>>3222278
If you would like to talk about "world hunger", let's start with Zimbabwe.
The nigger government seized farmland from all the white farmers.
They then gave it to niggers who can't farm.
Now they're all starving to death, and begging the international community for support over their
niggery.
It's like this in many other places, in regards to a variety of infrastructure projects. The
"international community" helps them out, and the literal retard local population immediately
fucks it up.
But apparently taking in a bunch of these retards will stop the rest of them from being retards
somehow.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:12:38 No.3222281
>>3222277
Immigrants don't just do jobs that Americans don't want to do, for example many tech sectors have
highly educated immigrants that are very valuable to their work force. I support making it easier
to legally enter America because they're actually an asset to our society, not for any airy
philosophical or conceptual reason.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:17:50 No.3222284
>>3222281
>Immigrants don't just do jobs that Americans don't want to do, for example many tech sectors
have highly educated immigrants that are very valuable to their work force.
That Americans could do.
Tech sector likes hiring people on visas because they can literally ask them to do anything under
the risk of being fired and deported.
This further drives down wages in the tech sector that could have otherwise been going to
Americans, you commie fuck.
The worst part is, that these tech giants try to frame their jewery as some sort of
"humanitarian" bullshit, completely disproven by the above video.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:18:16 No.3222285
sure is alot of small white dicks in this shitty thread
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:25:40 No.3222286
>>3222279
First of all, I don't want to talk about world hunger because the way to solve that isn't by
jiving about it online.
Secondly, you're view of the situation in Zimbabwe is, in your own words, retarded.
Thirdly, making your sentences bite sized is annoying.
>>3222284
TECH SECTORS PREFER TO HIRE AMERICANS BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE FILTHY SHITSKINS LOL. Jesus dude it
only works one way, immigrants don't get all the good sides of life and cause all the bad ones,
the only reason a Pakistani guy gets a job at Google is because his education is on point and he
has a good job history. I'm sick of middle aged white people with a bachelors degree complaining
they can't get a good job with their "years of education", two DUI's, and that three year gap
when they lived in Europe on their daddy's dollar. Meanwhile the guy with a Master's from a top
university, high recommendations, and solid work history gets the job and then gets talked shit
about uneducated fools like yourself.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:32:19 No.3222291
>>3222286
First off, that's entirely what this video is about.
Secondly, that's not an argument. You can look up the situation yourself. I haven't even
exaggerated.
Thirdly, even in bite sized portions, it was too much for you to digest. I could write one word
per line if you really need me to.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)20:33:58 No.3222292
>>3222286
>I'm sick of middle aged white people
Well, yes, that's quite obvious.
>Meanwhile the guy with a Master's from a top university, high recommendations, and solid work
history gets the job and then gets talked shit about uneducated fools like yourself.
From Dumbfuckistan, should apply his fantastic skills from the University of Pooinloo to
bettering his own country.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)22:02:48 No.3222313
>>3222275
Itusesalargenumberofflawedconceptsinordertopromoteasneakylittlemessageof'AmericaFirs
t'.Thatimmigrantsoverburdenournaturalresourcesandinfrastructure,whichtheydon't.Justt
hinkaboutthatforamoment.If1mpeopleperyearwasallittooktocausethecollapseofeverythingi
ntheUS,naturalbirthsofcitizenswithinthecountrywouldcauseustotoppleperpetually.Thatwe
'retakingawaythebestandthebrightestfromothercountriesisalsononsense.Peoplemovetowher
etheirtalentsandassetscanbeacknowledgedandprovideafutureforthemandtheirfamiliesandth
at'slargelynolongertheUS.StudiessuchasMigrationofProfessionalstotheU.S.(Zagheni2014)
demonstratethattheUSisnolongerattractivetothescientists,engineers,andotherprofession
als.We'realsonottryingtoeaseworldpovertywithimmigration.Mostimmigrantsaremovingheret
owork,averysmallpercentagearerefugeesfromhumanitariancrisises,andtherest
are from various misc sources such as marrying someone and moving in with them.
So the point stands, while he feigns making sensible arguments (We need to help people in their
own countries) he offers flawed logical loops to lead to disconnected conclusions based on false
truisms.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)22:29:00 No.3222320
>>3222278
But that IS his point, the circular logic of being pushed back to talking about immigration every
time we try to put it on hold or limit it while we have other discussions or make other plans.
People should be talking about world hunger. People should be talking about well digging,
building roads and infrastructure, vaccination programs, education programs, etc for these
countries, IN these countries, instead of spending (depending on who you talk to) 20-60K a piece
to resettle economic migrants and refugees to the US.
>>3222313
I think you're miscounting. We're not talking about just one million people. We're talking about
one million people over the natural birth rate. One million people who, by the way, need way more
food, clothing, and resources in one year than a newborn baby will need for probably his first
three or four. Immigrants are a much more serious drain on resources than the normal increase in
population of a healty birthrate.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)22:46:31 No.3222322
>>3222224
That's a really effective presentation
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)23:05:40 No.3222326
>>3222275
I think the point is that people use that argument to support pro-immigration policies without
understanding what they're saying. The truth is that, by taking in the more highly skilled
immigrants and leaving the rest, we improve ourselves and leave them bereft of skills that would
make them less easily exploited. His argument is to either stop pretending like what we're doing
is humanitarian, or to reverse your position and support different immigration polices.
>>3222277
>"they're just trying to make a better life for themselves
Well, the actual immigrants are. It's just that taking a handful of people doesn't help the ones
left behind who are in even worse positions. Small scale it provides opportunities for people to
get much better lives than would have been possible otherwise. Large scale you're hindering
foreign development without making a significant dent in the problem, and never will because
niggers are too dumb to use a condom.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)23:12:04 No.3222327
>>3222313
>natural births of citizens within the country would cause us to topple perpetually
The birth rate in the US is slightly below the rate needed to sustain a constant population.
>>3222320
>We're talking about one million people over the natural birth rate.
Immigration (at the current level) is what keeps our population roughly the same.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)23:32:07 No.3222335
>>3222266
>Besides, statistically there's a much greater chance
Fallacy of relative privation
>> [_] Anonymous 03/07/17(Tue)23:38:35 No.3222338
>>3222327
reducing our population is only bad because we have a debt based, privatized monetary system.
there is nothing intrinsically wrong with letting our population reduce naturally.
>>3222313
what flawed concepts and why is "America First" a negative policy to you?
Immigrants are burdensome on our economy: http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
>57% of immigrant household require welfare, as compared to 39% native population
your argument by analogy is vacuous.
>People move to where their talents and assets can be acknowledged and provide a future for them
and their families and that's largely no longer the US.
not relevant
> We're also not trying to ease world poverty with immigration
with the rebranding of illegal aliens as "Dreamers" by the Obama administration, that's an
outright load of bologna
>he feigns making sensible arguments (We need to help people in their own countries)
your example of a "sensible argument" is not an argument at all. it's an opinion.
what "loops" and "truisms?"
>> [_] Anonymous 03/08/17(Wed)00:14:22 No.3222350
>>3222222
>> [_] Anonymous 03/08/17(Wed)01:58:43 No.3222379
>>3222313
Which begs the question, why do we have such lenient immigration laws, and why don't we punish
illegal immigrants?
The best and brightest aren't coming here, like you said.
It's not a humanitarian effort, like you said.
From what I understand, it's mostly a bunch of unskilled workers that come here for work or
benefits. That can't possibly be a good thing, since it means diluting those jobs and benefits
between immigrants and Americans.
So why are immigrants good?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/08/17(Wed)02:31:51 No.3222389
>>3222379
they offset the power of unions
>> [_] Anonymous 03/08/17(Wed)02:36:30 No.3222391
>>3222379
They work, they also buy shit, or they send money home who then import shit. It hurts domestic
low-wage workers but helps about everybody else. Illegals mostly cost us in education and
emergency healthcare but they pay it back through sales taxes.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/08/17(Wed)02:40:28 No.3222392
>>3222286
GET FUCKED YOU UNDERAGED STATIST SIMPLETON
you can talk to me when youve actually done something for the USA, otherwise your just a pleb
shit who's living on the backs of white people while complaining about them
