File: Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs.swf-(9.99 MB, 640x360, Other)
[_] Anonymous 08/11/17(Fri)22:09:10 No.3271680
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 08/11/17(Fri)22:36:49 No.3271687
it's a good thing i'm too poor and stupid to care about people in other countries and their
problems.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)01:25:30 No.3271753
Am I the only one having a hard time believe that 5.5 billion of the worlds 7.5 billion live in a
country with a lower average income then Mexico?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)01:31:22 No.3271756
>>3271753
gumballs don't lie
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)01:32:50 No.3271757
>>3271756
Hmm, that is quite the compelling argument.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)01:44:58 No.3271760
>>3271680
>Implying immigration is the only way to benefit poorfags
>Ignoring that there's a strong economic argument for open borders and free movement of labor for
correcting market imbalances
>>3271753
Mexico, shithole that it might be, is relatively well off compared to a lot of dirt poor
shitholes that have very large populations (think places like india and nigeria, or most of
Africa for that matter). Though a good chunk of the reason Mexico does even half decently is
mainly because they share a border with the US.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:00:17 No.3271764
>>3271760
I'm not really questioning that so much, Mexico isn't as poor off as it could be, I can grasp
that much. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this was done in 1996 correct? at least thats
what I understood from what I read up on. If that is in fact the case, the world population was a
mere 5.8 billion. Also, in 1996 china had a population of 1.2 billion. That alone makes it hard
for me to believe his statement claiming that 5 billion people live in countries that have an
average income less then that of Mexico, when China has a higher Average income then Mexico (at
least as of recent, i couldn't find stats about their incomes in 1996). His claims seem so
outlandish to me from what im understanding I feel like I'm missing something altogether.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:18:04 No.3271770
>>3271764
You may be right. I didn't even realize this was that old so I am definately somewhat off.
However I do think china was relatively poorer back in the 90s, even if it wasn't so bad in the
cities a lot of the population still lived very rurally IIRC even in the mid 90s.
Assuming some charts that I found on google images are correct, the GDP per capita in the mid
1990s for china was around $3000 (in 1990 dollars), where as for Mexico it was somewhere around
50-100% more at about ~4600-5500 (my calculations could be off though since I did some shit in my
head to make the results roughly equivalent.) That would at least seem to indicate that it might
not be off to assume that the Chinese income was worse at that point.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:21:05 No.3271772
>>3271770
Hmm ok, that does make a bit of sense but the numbers still seem off. Hes still claiming a number
somewhere in the 5 billion range but the US has 260 million, bringing down the 5.8 world
population to 5.5~5.6. This isn't even counting any of Europe.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:24:28 No.3271774
>>3271772
Yeah, that does seem suspect. Well, fuck if I know what's going on. You're probably right about
the numbers being off somehow.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:24:30 No.3271775
>>3271772
I'm not naive enough to believe that immigration would solve world poverty but I don't think that
it's as fruitless as this guy is trying to make it sound. I think a healthy mix of aiding the
countries that need help as well as taking some in (and not just the US, any country that can do
so) would probably be the ideal way to handle this.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:25:31 No.3271776
>>3271774
I'm glad someone sees my point, I was afraid I was just vastly misunderstanding the presentation.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:26:59 No.3271777
Bah, the point of immigration isn't to help immigrants, it's so bankers have brand new targets to
saddle massive debt on that they couldn't access otherwise, while the taxpayer gets to cover the
expenses of the immigrant in entering a situation to take loans from said bankers.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)02:44:39 No.3271783
>>3271680
meme videos
>>>/pol/
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:11:10 No.3271792
>>3271760
>>Ignoring that there's a strong economic argument for open borders and free movement of labor
for correcting market imbalances
Then why have protectionist policies?
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:13:55 No.3271793
>>3271783
hellow newfag
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:14:44 No.3271794
>>3271792
Mostly for the same reason humans do most of the counter intuitive shit they do, because we are
built for tribalism, not pragmatic dispassionate reasoning or cost benefit analysis on a global
scale.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:21:23 No.3271797
I like gumballs
I wonder where he bought all those gumballs from
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:40:57 No.3271803
>>3271797
Probably the same place the stores get their gumballs for their gumball machines, in bulk from
some company. Probably came in a giant burlap sack or something.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:47:45 No.3271806
It would unironically be a good idea to start genociding people in the billions in order to
consolidate resources so that we may lay down a calculated infrastructure and foundation for the
future in foreign lands. How I lament that we discovered Africa so early. If we did so later
there might have been a chance that we'd just kill them all and then turn Africa into a proper
Asian/European multicultural powerhouse.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:51:28 No.3271807
>>3271760
>there's a strong economic argument for open borders and free movement of labor for correcting
market imbalances
Yeah. That's just what I need. More competition in an over saturated market thanks to h1b visa
bullshit.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:52:23 No.3271809
>>3271806
Or we could stop globalism, stop importing people into 1st world nation's like America, Europe,
Japan etc... and allow unsustainable nations with population growth problems like Indian, China &
Africa burn themselves out, we shouldn't pay for their demographic issues.
I'd still like to help those places modernize and find a stable path for themselves but one must
as you say consider resources not just in the moment but in the future. Can we really keep
sustaining ever higher populations without a dramatic boost from new technologies? Probably not.
The worlds population was under a billion in 1900.
Now its almost 10 billion.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)03:55:06 No.3271811
>>3271806
>Tfw africa will never be depopulated and turned into a giant nature preserve
Feels bad man.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)05:15:58 No.3271822
Eugenics.
Overpopulation is naturally dealt with either sickness, predation or emigration.
We have removed sickness and predation.
There is a limited amount of space on this planet, one that we cannot extend faster than we
expand.
Eugenics.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)05:36:48 No.3271827
>>3271680
I'm not aware of anyone seriously proposing immigration as tool to help impoverished people
globally. That's a silly argument, and the whole video feels like beating up a strawman.
>>3271822
>Eugenics.
Is a clearly terrible idea, unless you have an extreme level of confidence in your politicians
and in society as a whole to make good decisions.
>Overpopulation is naturally dealt with either sickness, predation or emigration.
Or education and improving quality of life. Which is by far the most successful solution tried so
far.
>> [_] Anonymous 08/12/17(Sat)05:42:13 No.3271832
>>3271827
I want to see you go to Africa, India, Southwest America or South Asia to go educating and
improving the quality of life of people.
Also, newsflash: it has worked in western society, then jewish motherfuckers like Merkel and co.
started opening the flood gates to the considerably less educated and impoverished. Nothing is
perfect.
And you could say China is already performing eugenics, although in a very limited fashion and
somewhat indirectly.
